For me, Mint DE. Customizable and timeshift will get newbies unstuck. What would I recommend newcomers use though? Zorin everyday, because it can bridge Mac OS and Windows users at the same time. Ubuntu are stuck with their default desktop. It's just not approachable for newbies, Cinnamon spin is for sure. All of that aside if someone made a halfway between Zorin and Fyde OS, Linux Desktop would hit 10% easy.
I might actually make a video on Fyde, now that I've had a chance to look at it. It's essentially a fork of ChromeOS, in the same sense that Ungoogled Chromium is a fork of Chromium. From a UI perspective, I actually really really like ChromeOS, and I really really like Fyde for the same reasons. It's very comfortable on the eyes, and the UI design focuses you with a forward momentum that leads you through different workflows. If it wasn't for the telemetry, and the hiding of the filesystem from the intended end user, I would love it. The UI is the only thing I really do like about Fyde, and the under-the-hood parts (which we need to be EVEN MORE in touch with, as people trying to help laypeople make safe decisions) are extremely concerning to me. The reason I say Ubuntu - specifically the flagship Gnome desktop configuration - is because 1 - it's a very simple UI, and 2 - it's hard to break unless you know how to break linux. All of the spins disappointed me, because I tried them out in testing looking for things that would hang up an ordinary user, and I found that none of them were polished enough to suggest. Funnily enough, the XFCE and MATE desktops that you can install on Ubuntu Server Edition are fantastic layman environments - but the dedicated spins are not appropriate for that at all. Truth be told, Mint is ALMOST too rough for the average person - but Cinnamon is a familiar enough desktop to Windows users, that they can push through it with a tiny bit of thinking. Since most people use Windows, I can safely assume that they can take that leap. If they don't have that background though, they will hate Linux Mint. What people often forget is, a new user isn't put off by having to try something new. They're put off by being up a creek without a paddle. If you show them something where they need a command line script, or that gets them stuck in a hole, they won't like linux. If you show them something alien - that doesn't hurt them - they pick it up and get used to it. That's how they learned Windows and Mac and iOS and Android in the first place.
It likes to crash for some reason, and force me to re-install grub I don't know why it does it, I don't know if they fixed it, but 21.3 is fine and has 3 years of support left
22 vs 21 moves you to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. Zorin customize Gnome shell lightly whereas Mint is a clean break. I get a tonne of Grub issues with Zorin (Ubuntu 22.04).
I think it's a VERY well tuned distro for gaming and doing GPU intensive things. Fedora distros tend to be the top as far as their resource management goes, and Nobara is the best, from my testing. That being said; the UI has a polished appearance, but it's not polished. The lack of polish isn't nearly as bad as Zorin, but it would definitely put off a new user. More importantly though, you need to disable secure boot to install it - which means you need to sign everything and re-enable secure boot before you connect your computer to the network again. For perspective; imagine if we were on the ISS, and I handed you one of those big wrenches and asked you to do a spacewalk. That's why I don't talk about Pop, Nobara, or the pre-built Artix desktops.
@@TheLinuxGallery-qz2vs Thank you very much! So, would you recommend Zorin OS or a different distro to a user switching from Windows 11 to Linux who is using a laptop with an NVIDIA graphics card? The secure boot issue with Nobara has disappointed me a bit.
@@caglarkorkmaz33 You'll probably be most comfortable with Mint. You can also try the KDE spin from Fedora - which is better tuned, but harder to get used to. This next part is more important than the distro. Whatever you pick, you'll need to go into the store and find the proprietary NVIDIA driver. You just install it, and restart your computer - and then it will use your graphics card properly. You'll know it's the one, because it's the only one with "nvidia" in the name. It's completely fine if you don't do that - Vulkan is an incredible project, and it will take care of you. But you'll get much better performance out of a card made in the past few years, if you install the driver from the store.
Tbh - I did a lot of research on the types of people that are actually clicking my content after being served, and I think a home-brew pacman build is the only thing that will make anyone here happy.
I have used zorin but wouldn't recommend it to new users coming from windows. linux mint xfce it actually the easiest to customize and is most polished out of the box. Ubuntu is not easiest to update and has other issues. linux mint is ubuntu based unless you get lmde.
It's true, and I love it! The only thing is, the AI assistant rules it out as something that lets you pivot off parasite business models. AI is inherently parasitic, and is very hard to secure, so that you retain even a very small degree of control over your machine. Definitely not something for people who aren't good with networking.
I have been using Zoran OS 17 with no problems. This is my first time using Linux and Zoran is actually easy and user friendly.
For me, Mint DE. Customizable and timeshift will get newbies unstuck. What would I recommend newcomers use though? Zorin everyday, because it can bridge Mac OS and Windows users at the same time. Ubuntu are stuck with their default desktop. It's just not approachable for newbies, Cinnamon spin is for sure. All of that aside if someone made a halfway between Zorin and Fyde OS, Linux Desktop would hit 10% easy.
Never heard of Fyde OS
Let me do some testing!
I might actually make a video on Fyde, now that I've had a chance to look at it. It's essentially a fork of ChromeOS, in the same sense that Ungoogled Chromium is a fork of Chromium. From a UI perspective, I actually really really like ChromeOS, and I really really like Fyde for the same reasons. It's very comfortable on the eyes, and the UI design focuses you with a forward momentum that leads you through different workflows.
If it wasn't for the telemetry, and the hiding of the filesystem from the intended end user, I would love it. The UI is the only thing I really do like about Fyde, and the under-the-hood parts (which we need to be EVEN MORE in touch with, as people trying to help laypeople make safe decisions) are extremely concerning to me.
The reason I say Ubuntu - specifically the flagship Gnome desktop configuration - is because
1 - it's a very simple UI, and
2 - it's hard to break unless you know how to break linux.
All of the spins disappointed me, because I tried them out in testing looking for things that would hang up an ordinary user, and I found that none of them were polished enough to suggest. Funnily enough, the XFCE and MATE desktops that you can install on Ubuntu Server Edition are fantastic layman environments - but the dedicated spins are not appropriate for that at all.
Truth be told, Mint is ALMOST too rough for the average person - but Cinnamon is a familiar enough desktop to Windows users, that they can push through it with a tiny bit of thinking. Since most people use Windows, I can safely assume that they can take that leap. If they don't have that background though, they will hate Linux Mint.
What people often forget is, a new user isn't put off by having to try something new. They're put off by being up a creek without a paddle.
If you show them something where they need a command line script, or that gets them stuck in a hole, they won't like linux. If you show them something alien - that doesn't hurt them - they pick it up and get used to it.
That's how they learned Windows and Mac and iOS and Android in the first place.
What issues with lm 22? Iv been using it for a while now and it seems to be fine.
It likes to crash for some reason, and force me to re-install grub
I don't know why it does it, I don't know if they fixed it, but 21.3 is fine and has 3 years of support left
22 vs 21 moves you to Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. Zorin customize Gnome shell lightly whereas Mint is a clean break. I get a tonne of Grub issues with Zorin (Ubuntu 22.04).
Thanks ,what do you think about Nobara Linux ?
I think it's a VERY well tuned distro for gaming and doing GPU intensive things. Fedora distros tend to be the top as far as their resource management goes, and Nobara is the best, from my testing. That being said; the UI has a polished appearance, but it's not polished. The lack of polish isn't nearly as bad as Zorin, but it would definitely put off a new user. More importantly though, you need to disable secure boot to install it - which means you need to sign everything and re-enable secure boot before you connect your computer to the network again. For perspective; imagine if we were on the ISS, and I handed you one of those big wrenches and asked you to do a spacewalk.
That's why I don't talk about Pop, Nobara, or the pre-built Artix desktops.
@@TheLinuxGallery-qz2vs Thank you very much! So, would you recommend Zorin OS or a different distro to a user switching from Windows 11 to Linux who is using a laptop with an NVIDIA graphics card? The secure boot issue with Nobara has disappointed me a bit.
@@caglarkorkmaz33 You'll probably be most comfortable with Mint. You can also try the KDE spin from Fedora - which is better tuned, but harder to get used to.
This next part is more important than the distro. Whatever you pick, you'll need to go into the store and find the proprietary NVIDIA driver. You just install it, and restart your computer - and then it will use your graphics card properly.
You'll know it's the one, because it's the only one with "nvidia" in the name.
It's completely fine if you don't do that - Vulkan is an incredible project, and it will take care of you. But you'll get much better performance out of a card made in the past few years, if you install the driver from the store.
not Ubuntu...
Tbh - I did a lot of research on the types of people that are actually clicking my content after being served, and I think a home-brew pacman build is the only thing that will make anyone here happy.
I have used zorin but wouldn't recommend it to new users coming from windows. linux mint xfce it actually the easiest to customize and is most polished out of the box. Ubuntu is not easiest to update and has other issues. linux mint is ubuntu based unless you get lmde.
Exactly. Mint xfce is easiest for Windows users.
DEEPIN OS is better than all of these
It's true, and I love it! The only thing is, the AI assistant rules it out as something that lets you pivot off parasite business models. AI is inherently parasitic, and is very hard to secure, so that you retain even a very small degree of control over your machine. Definitely not something for people who aren't good with networking.