To add on to your point at the end about other classes being able to use these techniques. While you most commonly see slideshotting from rangers, melee classes can also do it as long as you are in range to get the melee attack during the jump. This let's you continue/finish some skill chains that you might not have been able to while still moving. Especially nice if you have an extendable.
Siema sqall. Mam pytanie jak uzywasz bindow do slide shootow? Masz np myszke razera i uzywasz synapsa czy jak jest najlatwiej? bo klikanie 4 klawiszow raczej nei wchodzi w gre nie jestes w stanie chyba tego tak szybko zrobic. Jak to robisz? Z gory dzieki
Nice video. But need help. I'm now 30lvl. 60-70 ping. I master how to do jumpshot, helps a lot. But can't to do slideshot.... Could you tell when we need to use slideshot and jumpshot, in what cases? And is it enough to use only jumpshot for ranger in PVP and PvE?
Hey Squall do you have any expectations for Aion classic EU? Bad or good ones i’d love to hear them out! Im excited for Aion again but i doubt itll last
I have 20 ms and i can say slideshoting is almost impossible for me. 10 years ago i did it very well with higher ping... Jumpshots are easy. I dont know whats better, but for me i think i will go jumpshotting. Or do someone know the dmg difference? Or has anyone tips for low pings?
So what is the best ? slideshot or jumpshot ? since i pretty doing jumpshot in exp to train and i got the right timing now, i was wondering if i need to train the other lol
Hey few notes from me as i spent hundreds of hours on ranger training slideshots: - when you face enemy, after using any skill that not sleep/root, your character automatically auto attacks if in range, this makes slideshoting harder, because it messes with your timings of auto +skill in slideshoting. Most people deal with that by NOT facing enemies, then character does not attack automaticaly, - ranger have attack speed cap of 1.2 (auto attack every 1200 ms, achievable by mau form or bestial fury), many players have issues with slideshotting with two skills that stops movement in row and to solve this you need to mix up first mechanic on your video with second (if you will check combat log, second slideshot mechanic does not require auto attack to work), also i found very usefull to mix skills that stops movement with skills you can move for example auto attack + deadshot slide>gale arrow>auto attack + stunning shot slide> second chain of stunning shod with jump slide, you can also do one jump without any skill and then in mid air release direction key + use auto attack, your character will start auto attack animation and when it lands do slide shot, - i did many testing with different ping how it affects slideshotting and jumpshoting, including lan connection (private server on own pc) and my conclusion is that slideshoting and jumpcasting is much easier on higher pings (50-120) anything above makes ranger too laggy, with lan ping (around 6 by ingame ping command) you are not able to slideshot and jumpcast (tested with macros with accuracy around 1 ms). With ping 30-40 after skill pressed you have around 50 ms window to use jump+direction key, this time window is bigger in higher ping, - in jumpcast exact momment of canceling casting by jump + direction key is dependant on skill cast time, for example when you using ranger focused shots with cast time 0,5 s, you should cancel cast at around 50%, with skills like mana treathment (4s cast) it is around 90%. - jumpcasting is basically bug that cancels skill animation if you use it during falling animation after your character hits ground, if your character auto attacks there will be no falling animation and you cant jumpcast, - with lower ping you can use even two skills during one jumpcast, not sure if its usefull, - keep in mind that in jumpcasting you can move right away you pressed skill, - first method of slideshoting increase damage, godstone proc and stun proc on ranger, because auto attacks can trigger both, i noticed that i silence much more with godstone when slideshoting, some korean players used paral in bow because of that, even if knockbacks like stun shot remove parals.
Very nice details man, I decided not to talk about many things is this video cuz it would be too complicated, but also when someone will figure out some of this by himself he might understand better.
Also I agree with almost of ur thoughts except one, jumpcast (at least for me) is much easier and faster in 30ping than 120. Cuz in 120 I need to wait extra time after landing. But maybe I just used to it.
@@SquallChannel you sure you mean jumpcast? I think you had jumpshot in mind, i am not using it a lot ingame honestly as a ranger, but its great for gunners on cannon. I have two more tips: - you can slideshot focused shots on ranger (dont mistake it with jumpcasting) its better, because whole focused shot cast is in air not half, - when using first slideshot technique in video its very good against opponents with evade (gunners, rangers, sins), because basically, you auto attack first and that remove evade, Not sure about balance on aion classic, i played a lot on 4.6 version, in my opinion ranger is weak on 4.6, maybe nc soft nerfed it, because of slideshoting, in classic should be strong, excluding pvp in air, because you can't use mechanics from video in air :).
Jeśli mówisz o tym że tuż przed Slideshotem wściskasz auto attack i odrazu skill i skok to tak, w takim wypadku autoatak służy tylko aby postać się nakierowała na przeciwnika a nie żeby wyprowadzić dodatkowy dmg.
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To add on to your point at the end about other classes being able to use these techniques. While you most commonly see slideshotting from rangers, melee classes can also do it as long as you are in range to get the melee attack during the jump. This let's you continue/finish some skill chains that you might not have been able to while still moving. Especially nice if you have an extendable.
Thanks a lot. This rly helped me to improve a lot on it on characters i dont play
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Can you do one guide for glad pls?
Siema sqall. Mam pytanie jak uzywasz bindow do slide shootow? Masz np myszke razera i uzywasz synapsa czy jak jest najlatwiej? bo klikanie 4 klawiszow raczej nei wchodzi w gre nie jestes w stanie chyba tego tak szybko zrobic. Jak to robisz? Z gory dzieki
Nice video. But need help.
I'm now 30lvl. 60-70 ping. I master how to do jumpshot, helps a lot. But can't to do slideshot....
Could you tell when we need to use slideshot and jumpshot, in what cases? And is it enough to use only jumpshot for ranger in PVP and PvE?
Hey Squall do you have any expectations for Aion classic EU? Bad or good ones i’d love to hear them out! Im excited for Aion again but i doubt itll last
squall always happy 😊
I have 20 ms and i can say slideshoting is almost impossible for me. 10 years ago i did it very well with higher ping... Jumpshots are easy. I dont know whats better, but for me i think i will go jumpshotting. Or do someone know the dmg difference? Or has anyone tips for low pings?
What about Double Jumping and showing that you can AA while still doing a jumpshot upon landing
this tutorial is about most basic things, most players will figure out that double jumpshots and others are also easy :)
ja zawsze robiłem slide shoty z auto attackiem. Jest zdecydowanie łatwiej się nauczyć w ten sposób niż od razu próbować ("skill, bieg, jump")
So what is the best ? slideshot or jumpshot ? since i pretty doing jumpshot in exp to train and i got the right timing now, i was wondering if i need to train the other lol
Would be very interesting
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Squall with bow, Squall with bow, Squall with bow 😳
what xD
@@SquallChannel you should explain
quite a big downgrade, from cannon and postols to bow XD
Bro how i got my arrrow i play ranger sorry im newbie
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Wanto to see Squal whit pistols and Cannon doing this mechanics, :D looks difficulty doing it for my pewpew gunner
Whats ur Ping?
Hey few notes from me as i spent hundreds of hours on ranger training slideshots:
- when you face enemy, after using any skill that not sleep/root, your character automatically auto attacks if in range, this makes slideshoting harder, because it messes with your timings of auto +skill in slideshoting. Most people deal with that by NOT facing enemies, then character does not attack automaticaly,
- ranger have attack speed cap of 1.2 (auto attack every 1200 ms, achievable by mau form or bestial fury), many players have issues with slideshotting with two skills that stops movement in row and to solve this you need to mix up first mechanic on your video with second (if you will check combat log, second slideshot mechanic does not require auto attack to work), also i found very usefull to mix skills that stops movement with skills you can move for example auto attack + deadshot slide>gale arrow>auto attack + stunning shot slide> second chain of stunning shod with jump slide, you can also do one jump without any skill and then in mid air release direction key + use auto attack, your character will start auto attack animation and when it lands do slide shot,
- i did many testing with different ping how it affects slideshotting and jumpshoting, including lan connection (private server on own pc) and my conclusion is that slideshoting and jumpcasting is much easier on higher pings (50-120) anything above makes ranger too laggy, with lan ping (around 6 by ingame ping command) you are not able to slideshot and jumpcast (tested with macros with accuracy around 1 ms). With ping 30-40 after skill pressed you have around 50 ms window to use jump+direction key, this time window is bigger in higher ping,
- in jumpcast exact momment of canceling casting by jump + direction key is dependant on skill cast time, for example when you using ranger focused shots with cast time 0,5 s, you should cancel cast at around 50%, with skills like mana treathment (4s cast) it is around 90%.
- jumpcasting is basically bug that cancels skill animation if you use it during falling animation after your character hits ground, if your character auto attacks there will be no falling animation and you cant jumpcast,
- with lower ping you can use even two skills during one jumpcast, not sure if its usefull,
- keep in mind that in jumpcasting you can move right away you pressed skill,
- first method of slideshoting increase damage, godstone proc and stun proc on ranger, because auto attacks can trigger both, i noticed that i silence much more with godstone when slideshoting, some korean players used paral in bow because of that, even if knockbacks like stun shot remove parals.
Very nice details man, I decided not to talk about many things is this video cuz it would be too complicated, but also when someone will figure out some of this by himself he might understand better.
Also I agree with almost of ur thoughts except one, jumpcast (at least for me) is much easier and faster in 30ping than 120. Cuz in 120 I need to wait extra time after landing. But maybe I just used to it.
@@SquallChannel you sure you mean jumpcast? I think you had jumpshot in mind, i am not using it a lot ingame honestly as a ranger, but its great for gunners on cannon. I have two more tips:
- you can slideshot focused shots on ranger (dont mistake it with jumpcasting) its better, because whole focused shot cast is in air not half,
- when using first slideshot technique in video its very good against opponents with evade (gunners, rangers, sins), because basically, you auto attack first and that remove evade,
Not sure about balance on aion classic, i played a lot on 4.6 version, in my opinion ranger is weak on 4.6, maybe nc soft nerfed it, because of slideshoting, in classic should be strong, excluding pvp in air, because you can't use mechanics from video in air :).
And Squall your video is good i just wanted to point some details that can help people, i don't have time to make slideshot detailed vid :)
My keyboard mistake, I mean jumpshot is easier for me with lower ping.
To normalne, ze auto attack jakby nie działa przy tych shotach?
Jeśli mówisz o tym że tuż przed Slideshotem wściskasz auto attack i odrazu skill i skok to tak, w takim wypadku autoatak służy tylko aby postać się nakierowała na przeciwnika a nie żeby wyprowadzić dodatkowy dmg.
you need very low ms... that is the most important point
Jumpshoty są powalone jak dla mnie Np dla spiritmasterze teraz gram chanterem Btw masz jakiegoś dc ?
No trochę są, ale ważne żeby pamiętać ze są mega istotne ;) mój discord discord.gg/Xxu9HHyZWv
did i jump back in time
U did xD
Didn't work even with hardware macro
Im BR, go glad please
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Nice video ty