Great series, so exciting. This kind of SC2 is the best to watch, fast players making ballsy moves. Both of them are so goooood. Love the 3rd game outcome that was amazing. I was rooting for sOs the whole time bit seeing Maru pull that off was impressive!
Maybe one of the best series I've ever watched. The way neither of them have any fear is so inspirational. With his back against the wall playing to stave off elimination, SoS was STILL willing to gamble everything on a Void Ray / shield battery rush and somehow tricks Maru into failing to scout it. That kind of loss is so devastating. But then, for Maru to pull it together in Game 5 after suffering such a demoralizing loss is also unreal. I almost can't believe Maru didn't hold anything back and threw it all into some well-timed counter attacks. It takes amazing mental fortitude to be able to avoid playing it safe in a game 5. And they are right: Maru's micro is on another level. Ridiculous play on both sides.
This must be the first time I was actually rooting for Maru. I play Protoss, I hate Terran doing all sorts of one base and/or Cyclone cheese on me... But this time, this time I wished that Maru would actually win.
I'm no player for sure, but as a spectator watching this, it really seemed like Maru had about 2-3 scans for every DT SoS could make...which also makes the raven OP. Just straight up from 5 minutes on you have the interference on immortals, free detection and the armour bomb thing. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Terran (only Zerg lol), I'm just giving a spectator only view of why people may think there are imbalance problems.
1) anti-armor will be effective as long as they can deal damage to enemies health bar. If they can't, it's nothing change. That's why only Maru could use this unit so well. 2) when you said how op the raven is, why don't you look back at the high-templar? It does AoE damage directly with psionic-storm. It can disappear all of an opponent-unit's energy and deal damage directly as much as the energy of opponent had. Ghost only can do 100 and only do damage to the plasma-shield. 3) Raven isn't mass unit. As long as terran couldn't go into the very late game ( 3 base saturated, control the half of map, set a lot of static defenses), terran have no point to make raven more than two.
In the IEM replays, Maru has over 400APM vs 250APM Protoss. It's just so difficult to beat protoss unless you're massively outplaying them, even then you can only get an inch every mile you put out. Insanely frustrating. Maru missed the scout on the proxy/hidden pylon in 2 games and it could literally be anything coming out from Protoss from voidray/oracle/dt/blink all in to just a normal macro game.
Third game sos could have won so easily by maybe flanking Maru from behind with that army from the north east , instead of tunneling both armies into that choke point .
I’m new to this entire Starcraft type of game and it isn’t super accessible, so I’m trying to wrap my mind around it. Would it be fair to say that this game is a bit like that old flash game, Age of War 2? There’re different units, resources that build units, and an enemy base to destroy, and instead of a flat play area it’s a literal map, and different factions one can choose from. Anything else I should keep track of?
SC is probably the most complex yet easy to learn RTS out there. It's very accessible if you actually play the game as the units are introduced individually. I can see how difficult it would be to learn the game from just watching pros like this. I would suggest reading the actual game site for unit descriptions, or if you have time go download SC1, the full game is now free to play and it's 70% the same (obviously just a lot older). SC1 is still an amazing game tbh.
49:57 guys, can someone please explain how Maru could complete 2marines here while supply blocked? I'm not playing SC2, but love watching it and not sure how it's possible. Cheers
Janos TechUK the marines had already started building before the supply block. Sc won't ever pause a building unit, even if you become supply blocked into the Stone Age. it either keeps going or you can cancel it yourself. It's not like other rts games in this way. As for why there were two marines, that's what the reactor add-on does: allows two queues simultaneously. Hopes this helped.
Terran is still op, always has detection, their army always runs faster, they always have healing and they always have tech for mobiler detection... terran is pretty much immune to any quick death. If someone else fights the terran bio directly for like 10 seconds their army is dead and its GG, if the Terran fucks up and loses all of his units he just rebuilds and is fine. Every drop into the terran base gets instantly wiped out if there is a few stimmed infantry there.... whereas a full medivac can fight a huge amount of units. + has speed boosters to easily get away. The reason terrans are bad is because they are all incompetent. Every " best player ever" is always a terran, because terran is the most broken, and if you play them optimally you are invincible and automatically win every game vs Zerg and Protoss, so good terrans have a 66+% win rate for free.
@@woddenbukkit1016 Right? Banelings and high templar make marines and most terran units disappear. And when zerg lose all their units and you run across the map to kill them,if they have a bit of cash and larva, their army is back when your reach their base. The same Iunary said could be used to talk about any of the 3 races :p
sc2 is a joke. in game 3, if Maru is able to win while behind by just going all in with SCV just goes to show how imbalanced this game is. lol. he doesn't need to claw his way back slowly into the game and find some advantages here and there... nope, just go all in with SCVs while behind. gg. easy game, easy life
Yeah there only playing for 5g pft what try hards..... try harding in quarter finals pft. Like what are you even saying?? Of course their try harding Lol
Also, I'm not a bad player, but I think since Maru is a God at this game, Terran isn't getting fair nerfs or upgrades to make matchups fair for them. Like, late game against Protoss is an auto lose for them with carriers and voidrays and such. It takes 4 marines to kill a zealot, there are just so many bad match ups between Terran and Protoss units. If Maru wasn't so good at this, the game would be more balanced than it is right now.
It feels DTs are useless against terran: early scout possibility denies pretty much every DT build. I do not say they are a bad unit, it is just so situationable that it`s not a better strategy than blink or storm or else.
max okolot they have their uses when games get really spread out and there are multiple fights happening. Also there are games where terrains run out of scans (or orbitals) and dt's end up deciding the game.
@@ZC.Andrew Sure, such games exist. But as you mentioned, they have uses in a game where terran is on the map and cannot defend from dt's and main protoss army. So apart from dts' protoss needs something else to fall back on
Allin7days should it be called characteristic? Actually, cheese strategies aren't for newbies player (diamond and below). They need a lot of fundaments, knowledges and precise skill in this game. Not only sOs but also many protoss players.
You're missing the point. It's a valid strategy for a time to time, but SOS does it all the time. Besides, I was talking about the professional players who play with such players. How come professional players don't scout when they play with this type of players?
Allin7days I'm so sorry for my bad reading. 1) they're in the same team aka Jinair Green Wing. They know each other so well. 2) Because he predict all of posibility which could be happen in each map (at least, the worst case). So he won't scout with scv for gather more mineral.
TheEliteCombine Yeah, It isn't about - VERY AMAZING MICRO - AWESOME MINES POSITION - PULLING ALMOST 40 SCVS TO MAKE ARMY EQUAL - THE UPGRADE ADVANTAGE - THE LAZINESS OF SOS All the thing is from anti-armor...
one AAM hits half the entire army for half its health (a quarter of the entire army's health) and also makes it 3x easier to kill. He would not have won despite all those other things without the completely imba Raven.
All these salty ass people bitching terran op. This was an amazing match dont know how you could watch this and think that, both showed so much skill, game was amazing, i mean i guess any good player makes his race look op, if anything toss is ahead in the current meta, but over all i would say the game is the most balanced it's been.
dude do you even play starcraft? maru did not scout, and blindly made cyclone and many marines in reaction to 1 zealot and 1 stalker. he also canceled his command center lol. maru fell behind because he made the wrong judgement, or rather, wrong guess since he did not scout at all.
Unity The future is He could not save the SUV from the zealot and stalker with that reaper. Stopping the cc and building it in his base was the best call there.
Sos is such a good dude, smile on his face even in defeat thats what i like to see
justin bang fake
justin bang gyuhu8uuuuuvxx gg vdd choco chic n ccccccccvvvhhhhhhvvvvvvvvvvvvvhhh
yep sure it is but 'couse they're probably good friends too
They are on the same team, and are very good friends.
Great series, so exciting. This kind of SC2 is the best to watch, fast players making ballsy moves. Both of them are so goooood.
Love the 3rd game outcome that was amazing. I was rooting for sOs the whole time bit seeing Maru pull that off was impressive!
This was one of the best series I've seen in a long time. Truly a joy to watch such great starcraft. (And this is from a zerg player no less)
Marus 3rd game dude, WOOOOOOOOOOOOW, amazing, no mistakes
that 3rd game was ridiculous for maru!
Maybe one of the best series I've ever watched. The way neither of them have any fear is so inspirational. With his back against the wall playing to stave off elimination, SoS was STILL willing to gamble everything on a Void Ray / shield battery rush and somehow tricks Maru into failing to scout it. That kind of loss is so devastating. But then, for Maru to pull it together in Game 5 after suffering such a demoralizing loss is also unreal. I almost can't believe Maru didn't hold anything back and threw it all into some well-timed counter attacks. It takes amazing mental fortitude to be able to avoid playing it safe in a game 5. And they are right: Maru's micro is on another level. Ridiculous play on both sides.
man.. That Micro.. These guys are monsters..
Thus was such a great series.
I hope Maru wins a major tournament this year. Go Maru!
Maru was clearly the most entertaining player this tournament
I remember first watching Maru in 2014 when he went up against Hero.
Man it's so good to see him doing well! When in doubt, pull the boys!
Terran hope is still alive. For humanity, for victory
What a match up two of the sc gods in my opinion
Omg, he’s pulling the boys on me
Very happy to see the occasional first person views!
My god the pressure... These guys are beasts! I get my fingers sweat when playing diamond 😂 imagined myself vs these guys!
What an awesome series
The SCV pull in game 3. Wow.
Oh my god the 3 game best I have see till no this iem
Epic games, sorry for sOs, but great plays!
This must be the first time I was actually rooting for Maru. I play Protoss, I hate Terran doing all sorts of one base and/or Cyclone cheese on me... But this time, this time I wished that Maru would actually win.
This 1080p60 got me like
SoS is such a humble guy
wp from both side
Maru, that was a sick win!!!!
PULL THE BOYS!
The fans at the end
That 3rd game is why I love Maru
I love scrappy series like this
amazing series!
Why don't we all get to play on these fantastic stages? I'm SO tired of the same old 6 stages :(
insane comeback :0
Sos gave up on last match. Didn't even micro the 3 Oracles and just gave up. Maru is amazing for sure.
I'm no player for sure, but as a spectator watching this, it really seemed like Maru had about 2-3 scans for every DT SoS could make...which also makes the raven OP. Just straight up from 5 minutes on you have the interference on immortals, free detection and the armour bomb thing.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Terran (only Zerg lol), I'm just giving a spectator only view of why people may think there are imbalance problems.
1) anti-armor will be effective as long as they can deal damage to enemies health bar.
If they can't, it's nothing change.
That's why only Maru could use this unit so well.
2) when you said how op the raven is, why don't you look back at the high-templar?
It does AoE damage directly with psionic-storm.
It can disappear all of an opponent-unit's energy and deal damage directly as much as the energy of opponent had.
Ghost only can do 100 and only do damage to the plasma-shield.
3) Raven isn't mass unit.
As long as terran couldn't go into the very late game ( 3 base saturated, control the half of map, set a lot of static defenses), terran have no point to make raven more than two.
캬 역시 팀킬전 조마루기뮤진전이 제일 재밌다니까 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Man how can sOs lose to Maru! sOs vs Rogue at the final will be way more exciting
Luv Pig and Tod, one of the best commentators
I may reroll terran again now when the seeker missile have become good again XD
terran op, in first part wings of liberty balance was fine
why do I feel like the commentaries are rooting for Maru every game lol
Go Maru!
In the IEM replays, Maru has over 400APM vs 250APM Protoss. It's just so difficult to beat protoss unless you're massively outplaying them, even then you can only get an inch every mile you put out. Insanely frustrating. Maru missed the scout on the proxy/hidden pylon in 2 games and it could literally be anything coming out from Protoss from voidray/oracle/dt/blink all in to just a normal macro game.
That 3rd game though I mean I support sos but mad respect for Maru
Maru, Maru, Maru!!!
Third game sos could have won so easily by maybe flanking Maru from behind with that army from the north east , instead of tunneling both armies into that choke point .
what are these guys, 2min in the game i'm litteraly shitting my pants
good decision making kudos to Maru
MARU GOD
woa!
We can hear ToD (caster) but we can't see him
How do you control you observing cam view like that when you can zoom out?
Omg Maru scout the most important proxy spot last......:S
I’m new to this entire Starcraft type of game and it isn’t super accessible, so I’m trying to wrap my mind around it. Would it be fair to say that this game is a bit like that old flash game, Age of War 2? There’re different units, resources that build units, and an enemy base to destroy, and instead of a flat play area it’s a literal map, and different factions one can choose from. Anything else I should keep track of?
SC is probably the most complex yet easy to learn RTS out there. It's very accessible if you actually play the game as the units are introduced individually. I can see how difficult it would be to learn the game from just watching pros like this. I would suggest reading the actual game site for unit descriptions, or if you have time go download SC1, the full game is now free to play and it's 70% the same (obviously just a lot older). SC1 is still an amazing game tbh.
Starcraft would be nothing without the grandmaster scene.
The cuban Players are very good Players ... right now im playing in the ladder !!! is so amazing!!!
38:24 just beautiful
49:57 guys, can someone please explain how Maru could complete 2marines here while supply blocked? I'm not playing SC2, but love watching it and not sure how it's possible. Cheers
Janos TechUK the marines had already started building before the supply block. Sc won't ever pause a building unit, even if you become supply blocked into the Stone Age. it either keeps going or you can cancel it yourself. It's not like other rts games in this way. As for why there were two marines, that's what the reactor add-on does: allows two queues simultaneously. Hopes this helped.
I’ve watched since gsl season 1 and these guys did not age well. Tasteless, Rotterdam, SoS... etc. Maru is still young so good for him.
Or the lighting is terrible.
Is maru going to play in the finals?
15:52 Ouch poor guy lol.
Seems Thierry Henry's also commenting SC2 now... 😂
maru is Amazing!!!!
What's that song in the beginning?
maru vs SoS? Gee, i wonder who is going to win
How in the did Maru win game 3?
b/c gateway units melt to barracks units
maru is why terran is so weak. the other 99.99% cannot play like that.
99.99% is an outrageous understatement
liu after maru used ravens for aoe they nerfed the bomb to do no damage. I mean, are you grand master?
Terran is still op, always has detection, their army always runs faster, they always have healing and they always have tech for mobiler detection... terran is pretty much immune to any quick death.
If someone else fights the terran bio directly for like 10 seconds their army is dead and its GG, if the Terran fucks up and loses all of his units he just rebuilds and is fine.
Every drop into the terran base gets instantly wiped out if there is a few stimmed infantry there.... whereas a full medivac can fight a huge amount of units. + has speed boosters to easily get away.
The reason terrans are bad is because they are all incompetent. Every " best player ever" is always a terran, because terran is the most broken, and if you play them optimally you are invincible and automatically win every game vs Zerg and Protoss, so good terrans have a 66+% win rate for free.
Um... have you ever made banelings or high templar before?
@@woddenbukkit1016 Right? Banelings and high templar make marines and most terran units disappear. And when zerg lose all their units and you run across the map to kill them,if they have a bit of cash and larva, their army is back when your reach their base. The same Iunary said could be used to talk about any of the 3 races :p
Game 3: in order for terran to win according to casters, everything has to go right. Ty guys, real balance right there.
Ben Irons everything went right for the protoss in game 3 and still the terran won beacuse of the stupid OP stem
Ben Irons So imbalanced that when one player is massively behind, everything has to go right for him to come back. Nerf worker/army advantage.
sc2 is a joke. in game 3, if Maru is able to win while behind by just going all in with SCV just goes to show how imbalanced this game is. lol. he doesn't need to claw his way back slowly into the game and find some advantages here and there... nope, just go all in with SCVs while behind. gg. easy game, easy life
Neil Chang
I'd like to see you micro your way out of that fight.
go Maru...
where can i get those shirts?
джи джи!
Rotterdam's analysis is so sexy.
Terrain imba. What a balance
is that tobi? the guy who commentates for dota?
Wow the try hard is so real so good to see this players
Yeah there only playing for 5g pft what try hards..... try harding in quarter finals pft. Like what are you even saying?? Of course their try harding Lol
Just a ramdom person legit it’s the best Terran vs best protoss
Maru the god of starcraft 2!
Pull the boys, I knew maru got it
No ketchup, just sos, dead sos
Do any race-haters in this comment section actually play the game? 😂😂😂😂
Dave Buikema they probably quit cause they got stuck in bronze league 🤣
Future Viking Gaming WTF hahahahhahahahahahhaha
Future Viking Gaming no they mean toss haters
Yes, I hate Protoss, that's why I watch Maru. I also play too.
SOS looks like a nice guy. But how come he’s not playing so well nowadays? Maybe he’s busy?
why is warp in times so slow?
Because it's mobility is so powerful? A warp prism can land units anywhere on the map. A pylon can be an insta warp for 8+ units in a few seconds.
Also, I'm not a bad player, but I think since Maru is a God at this game, Terran isn't getting fair nerfs or upgrades to make matchups fair for them. Like, late game against Protoss is an auto lose for them with carriers and voidrays and such. It takes 4 marines to kill a zealot, there are just so many bad match ups between Terran and Protoss units. If Maru wasn't so good at this, the game would be more balanced than it is right now.
minus armour for more dmg doesnt make sense, meaning you can't have a negative armour value, and it is stupid broken in game as well as just silly
hmm why are them wearing 2 set of earphone?
lex5519 one is for sound, one is for soundproof. They can’t know what people are cheering or commenting on.
who is the interviewer tho?
It feels DTs are useless against terran: early scout possibility denies pretty much every DT build. I do not say they are a bad unit, it is just so situationable that it`s not a better strategy than blink or storm or else.
max okolot they have their uses when games get really spread out and there are multiple fights happening. Also there are games where terrains run out of scans (or orbitals) and dt's end up deciding the game.
@@ZC.Andrew Sure, such games exist. But as you mentioned, they have uses in a game where terran is on the map and cannot defend from dt's and main protoss army. So apart from dts' protoss needs something else to fall back on
max okolot yeah, totally agree
Has anybody seen SOS playing anything other than cheese?
Yet, even a professional player seems to be surprised when that happens.
lol
Allin7days should it be called characteristic?
Actually, cheese strategies aren't for newbies player (diamond and below).
They need a lot of fundaments, knowledges and precise skill in this game.
Not only sOs but also many protoss players.
You're missing the point. It's a valid strategy for a time to time, but SOS does it all the time. Besides, I was talking about the professional players who play with such players. How come professional players don't scout when they play with this type of players?
Allin7days I'm so sorry for my bad reading.
1) they're in the same team aka Jinair Green Wing. They know each other so well.
2) Because he predict all of posibility which could be happen in each map (at least, the worst case).
So he won't scout with scv for gather more mineral.
强
PvT Match is always by protos side :(
Br?
Maru+scvs+aam is broken op, dkim pls nrf ktnxbi
MARU拉SCV一波簡直無法置信
Just because of the Anti Armor Missle..
TheEliteCombine Yeah, It isn't about
- VERY AMAZING MICRO
- AWESOME MINES
POSITION
- PULLING ALMOST 40 SCVS TO MAKE ARMY EQUAL
- THE UPGRADE ADVANTAGE
- THE LAZINESS OF SOS
All the thing is from anti-armor...
GaRuDa Verde
I said just. not everything.
sjw strikes again i guess
also all the points sos had too
starcraft justice warrior?
one AAM hits half the entire army for half its health (a quarter of the entire army's health) and also makes it 3x easier to kill. He would not have won despite all those other things without the completely imba Raven.
akungfustudent79 The raven has been nerfed hard.
how the f did maru do that
15:52 THE CRINGE
wow.. is that girl tall or maru is short? :(
The answer is yes. Lol
is this some sort of clone league?
39:43
All these salty ass people bitching terran op. This was an amazing match dont know how you could watch this and think that, both showed so much skill, game was amazing, i mean i guess any good player makes his race look op, if anything toss is ahead in the current meta, but over all i would say the game is the most balanced it's been.
Bright red ad in the bottom corner is annoying af. Quick way to get viewers to never visit that site.
不愧是狗哥
Twins
Commentators: "Sos outthought Maru." - game 1. All he did was make a zealot then a stalker, terran already way behind, gg blizzard.
Cry moar
You can say that about any game
dude do you even play starcraft? maru did not scout, and blindly made cyclone and many marines in reaction to 1 zealot and 1 stalker. he also canceled his command center lol. maru fell behind because he made the wrong judgement, or rather, wrong guess since he did not scout at all.
you won't get out of bronze with that attitude
Unity The future is He could not save the SUV from the zealot and stalker with that reaper. Stopping the cc and building it in his base was the best call there.