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Dr Halstead Lets Go Of His Mentor | Chicago Med
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2018
- After several desperate attempts to keep his old mentor alive, Dr Halstead realises he needs to let her pass to relieve her pain.
Season 2 Episode 18 "Lesson Learned"
Dr. Halstead makes quick and difficult decisions when tending to a patient who was also his mentor in medical school. Dr. Rhodes performs a risky surgery on a young boy as an alternative to amputating his arm. Meanwhile, Dr. Charles and Dr. Reese tend to a patient who denies having suicidal tendencies. Also, Maggie takes an aggressive route when training a new nursing student and Dr. Reese continues to mourn the loss Jason Wheeler.
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Everyone complaining about Dr Manning saying "I'll break her ribs": come on guys. Her character is a doctor and a good one at that, it's not like she doesn't know that breaking ribs while doing CPR is fine. The whole point of showing her hesitation, and April's hesitation too (if you notice), is to present the argument that was the primary focus of this clip: does quality of life matter more than life itself? Especially for someone that old, is it really worth it? Tough question with no correct answer.
WOW that is a lot to say, but your right, and that is true.
Finally someone with common sense! Thank you Neha for this comment. People need to see this and understand the plot for god's sake!
@@writajachakravarty9443 that is so fucking true.
I know I'm late, but there are so many comments saying that she is useless and all that, which is of course untrue. You are so right! It feels great seeing a nice, thought out comment once in a while.
A doctor doesn't have the right to decide who gets to live and die, no matter the situation. That becomes the responsibility of the patient and their family.
There is no doctor in the world who would refuse to start CPR because of breaking someone's ribs....
Nicol Bolas ikr, my sister just became a nurse and they told her “if you’re not breaking ribs, you’re not trying hard enough to save them”
Shes useless
Ivana Gacha yeah forget dying right
No it's because she's old, and if you're elderly and your ribs break it's harder to repair, so you'd be constantly in pain.
By repair I mean heal
The moment Dr. Hallstead looked at Dr. Manning from his locker I could immediately tell he cried. Such a good actor.
"Shouldn't quality of life be a consideration?"
House: The thing about life... it has quality.
Also house :"i become a doctor to treat illnesses, not the patients"
House in this show for a weird impossible crossover would’ve been beautiful
Who is house
He is the main character in a show called house m.d that went from 2004-2012 and he was a very intelligent doctor that was very unorthodox and a bit of a dick, that’s to summarise it by a lot, it’s a very good show and has 8 seasons.
This is painful, losing your greatest mentor is like losing your own parents :'( those mentor is the reason why those doctors are being better everyday.
Omg... I watched 1 SINGLE episode on here... now I’m addicted... but I can’t find full episodes in England 😓
1000 subscribers without any videos omggggg same I’m literally sooo annoyed 😂😭
Sweden can’t seem them either
Search them on dailymotion you can watch full episodes but its not good quality
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“Treat the patient, not the disease”
dr house would disagree...
You watched the show?
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Nugor Calamo yes
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Wilson whoa that was a quick reply. Something mystical about quarantine
' shouldn't quality of life be a consideration' pity not all real doctors and the law can't see that.
That consideration should be made by the PATIENT and not the DOCTOR
2:24 for those who are complaining about Dr. Manning asking Halstead about breaking a rib, that's the reason why she asked for it first. There's so many reason why she had to ask for permission, she's just concern about the old lady's condition to get worse (or live in worst) also, she didn't totally reject. I understand her.
Yeah, but it's unprofessional un uncalled for. She's a doctor, she could know that cpr can result in broken ribs and that the life of a patient matters more than whether or not they have a broken rib. Ribs can heal, you can't bring someone back from the dead.
She did reject.... she just stood there even after being told after she asked.
CutsiePie 389.0 FYI,a broken rib can cause a lung to be punctured and that will just make her condition worse with a deflated lung
@@Pumpkin_3890 oh yeah, because this patient was clearly going to be fine within a week. What does CPR add to a person that is so terminal?
@@joelvr101 The question here is mire whether or not you should revive someone, breaking their ribs in the process, diminishing their quality of life if they do not have much chance of living longer than a few weeks or something like that. It's an ethics question and that was why she asked him
The thing is about breaking her ribs is that she’s extremely old. So she won’t be able to move for a while etc. the question here was if QoL is more important
It's not the fact that the ribs were broken, it was the age and how she was coping. A few broken ribs might not be as bad as us, but for her, it's basically death. It was the right decision at this time.
Ik this is a serious video but oh my god what was that randome cough at 2:04 because I bursted out laughing
Had me rolling once I noticed it😂😂😭😭👏🏼
CORONAVIRUS jk
Wasn't a random cough. She was drawing his attention towards him.
Sameee😂😂😂
Sharon Goodwin is a great woman, intelligence and warmth entwined, rational with a great heart...Acting 👍👍👍👍💜
As far as Dr. Halstead, I understand his position. Wonderful acting ...It's always hard to let go...
NO ONE refuses to do compressions because they'll break a rib. That's literally one of the FIRST things they tell you when you learn how to do CPR; Even if you break ribs, keep doing compressions. If you are resorting to CPR, they are already on deaths door, a few broken ribs doesn't matter.
@Spidey Girl She clearly said she was worried about breaking ribs. That was her reason for not doing CPR. It's just an error in the script and they didn't run it by whoever they consult on the medical side of things. I just find it particularly annoying because it's a really simple thing and there are so many people that know how to do CPR properly and breaking ribs is not a valid reason to not do CPR.
@Spidey Girl That would be something to discuss with the next of kin about whether she has/wants a DNR or if she doesn't want life support. In this case though, there appears to be no next of kin available to make that decision so the doctors have to treat her like she wants to be saved regardless of the means they have to go to to keep her alive.
I think it was more the patient would rather die peacefully than have more pain and suffer the whole time. She would have died anyway and having a machine expanded your diaphragm when you have broken ribs would hurt like hell. The doctor was thinking about what the patient wanted not what the grieving friend was insisting on. This is why doctors aren’t allowed to treat family. Keeping someone alive becomes their first priority, even if it isn’t in the patients best interest.
So true
Point is she was already gonna die or have dreadful quality of life, and now it’s gonna be even more painful.
3:11
"Treat the patient not the Disease"
- Dr Bella Rowan
"Treating illnesses is why we became doctors. Treating patients is what makes most doctors miserable."
- Dr Gregory House
I’d like to see Dr Mike’s opinions on this episode
Anyone else hear that cough at 2:04 but looking at dr halstead he didn’t cough 😂😂
Lol, it's not about breaking the ribs. Even the actors know that. It's about her age and condition and what breaking the ribs might do to her in that state. Yall watched the whole clip right? Lol.
When I saw dr. Halstead cry I- almost cried
im actually really happy the curator of this channel actually adds in a season and episode stamp.. great thinking
Its so painful to lose a mentor , if you are and were the real student , follwing the goodness of the mentor , this episode for me was very painful
chest compressions
chest compressions
chest compressions
That immediately reminds me of Dr. Mike lol
@@megamarylis514 that’s what they are referring to!
Mike
Goddamnit where's the onion ninja hiding to in my room
often when older already sick people break bones it can be game over for them. so i can see dr manning’s point as it may be counter productive to revive her and then have her never recover from the breakages.
Dr manning didn’t refuse to giving cpr she just hesitated because she thinks of how her bones may not heal because of her age and broken ribs are extremely painful. She was concerned for her well being afterwards
Chest compressions , cheat compressions , chest compressions ❤️
Chest compressions, chest compressions, chest compressions!
If you get it you get it
im not a trained doctor, only trained in first aid; but yall who said no one would refuse to do cpr in fear of breaking ribs? she’s an old woman. her ribs will be harder to repair and she’ll just suffer more.
QoL isn't something you discuss while your patient is literally flatlining in the same room. You resuscitate, unless given a DNR order. That is a decision only given to the patient or anyone they deem fit to decide in their stead.
Broken rib OR dying
Schlahtt dying
5:41 Aight but who was that lady???
@@Daydreamer-fj7ru but at that time his gf...manstead forever!
Finalllyyyyy someone asking the right questions 😩
Searched through rib breaking comments for this question
@@nomawethundlangisa3021 me too!! lol
That lady was Dr Halsteads mentor back when he was attending a medical school. I assume he was very close to her 😞😞😞
“treat the patient, not the disease”
me: gives her a stuffed bear
patient: 🕊✌🏼😱
I almost cryed at the end😢😢😢😢
So they literally just killed her in the most painless way
Aaaawwww will cried 😭😭
Will is so good hearted
Most of the time you have to put enough to pressure to brake the ribs like it's just something that happens
Imagine if there was a show with dr halstead, dr mike and dr house
For a second there I thought I was in a Doc Mike comment section! 🤣🤣
I thought Will was letting go of his mother
The reason why nat had issues with cpr is because if she does it right, it'll break her patient's ribs. Who knows how many they would have broken since the patient is so fragile.
Patient:
Intubated (meaning the machine was doing the breathing for her)
Kidney Failure (Leads to many different complications including heart conditions, medication complications, blood pH fluctuations)
broken Ribs ( in loads of pain most likely cannot do surgery since the patient is so weak, she wont be able to handle it, most of the time you dont do surgery you just have to let it heal, with the patient's age and physical state it will take a very very long time to become healthy, by that time she will pass away from other health conditions)
Shes bed ridden (pressure injury leading to skin necrosis, muscle atrophy (muscle degeneration which can happen as fast as 1 week bed bound))
Of course quality of life will be a concern.
Especially in palliative care, quality of life is a big concern. Thus all the pain medications and the rest.
People say they want to live but other people just want rest after so much fighting. Sometimes its just ignorance, naivety and the lack of knowledge about how the body works.
I don’t know why but when she said bed sores my feet felt funny
Jesus Christ when will this be in Netflix?!?!
Is it just me or i learn so much about this until the disagre with everythink then im like break the ribs or not?? like wth
Wait. Was that the actress who played Anna in frozen broadway?
Queen B yes it is also Dr Rhodes wife in real life.
Who is the woman at the end who saw Dr Halstead and Manning hugging?
I honestly have no idea, but she might’ve been a doctor/nurse who thought that Halstead and Manning were dating or something. Which I don’t think is _okay_ in the medical world. Honestly I’m probably so wrong but whatever I guess lmao
@@eeiity8600 wait ur saying you cant date if ur doctor? (idk if i red that right)
It was wills girlfriend in season 2
Nina, a doctor from the pathology department, who was Will's girlfriend during season 2.
@@brokenknee14 Looks like she's still not over him!🙂
happy but sad ending :(
But it’s better to break someone’s rib than lose someone’s life
Maggie put the pads in a very unusual position...
There is no way that would work.
To anyone who ever has to do CPR on somebody one day (I hope you won’t have to), breaking a rib(s) is completely normal. It’s recommended push down 5cm (2 inches) when doing compressions, plus most times it will be elderly people with more fragile bones. So don’t hold back because of possibly breaking ribs; after hopefully surviving a heart attack, a broken rib should be the least of their concerns.
Awww will cannot let her go
I think the point of Dr. Manning's comment was to the futility of CPR in the patient's situation. Although I agree, in this case, advanced directives or the subsequent decision maker would have to clarify what would occur in such a situation, however, I think Dr. Manning's comment is to contract against Dr. Halsted's actions. It's a hard choice between but sometimes ensuring a peaceful death is more kind to the patient than life while subject to various treatments that do not cure and only prolong the suffering- for instance, CPR and the subsequent pain from broken bones. I think that's why Dr. Manning made that comment.
"Treat the patient not the disease" so if you got cancer and your about to die you prefer being comfortable than alive?? Like the hell i rather live
That's not what that sentence means. Some doctors treat a disease, but without really considering the well being of the patient. I've personally seen this in operation rooms, where the surgeon does an amazing job, but the rest of the body comes out a wreck because of it. And then there are doctors that put the patients mental state and well being before anything else, and that's what the sentence means.
I'd rather die
idc i sobbed in this scene
1:16 her hand moves
4:05 both gloves on - 4:15 putting second glove on (the time-stream is fucked)
If you break a persons rib do they repair like a broken arm ?
I’m sure that woman’s heart was still beating at he end. The thing was still beeping
I know this is a tv show I just can’t help but point out The compressions he did we’re way to fast 😂
Why am I crying
Who else wants a job at this hospital? What a top show
What is strange about the umbrella? They're everywhere...
That sounds like one of those fire alarms beep beep beep
Im gonna cry
April didn't yell "clear!" before shocking her
i kind of wonder why the patient is still in the ED. patient should've been brought to ICU right?
Because ICU would make a really boring TV show. Most of the time patients are just intubated for long periods of time, and have routine checkups until something in their condition changes.
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What happened when the hanger drip stops dripping?
STOP WITH ALL THE YOU SHOULDN'T BREAK THE RIBS LISTEN IF HER RIBS HAD BROKE THEN THAT WOULD OF MADE HER WORSE SHE WOULD O NOT HAD A CHANCE OF SURVIVAL BUT IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION USING THE COMPRESSIONS
That’s all I’m going to say
What if she DID want to live?
You all keep saying that it’s bad that she was afraid of breaking her ribs, but you have to ask yourself, would she be able to survive it when her ribs would be broken? She is old, and not really strong anymore so is it worth it to save a life like that if she wouldn’t be able to get better?
Dr Halstead was right
He had to as some people like christians always need to try their best to stay alive
Thats not true . Christians especially ones that old would be at peace with death
This days they never treat any.
Are doctors allowed to do that? Just curious . . .
4:32 haha found a mistake
Where’s dr house when you need him
I thought it said mother
What was doctor halstead watching?
Why is that one blonde woman in the end so shocked? Abt them hugging?
People in England should watch on Amazon prime
We do dumbass
omg I thought it says dr Halstead lets go of his *mother*
Wow
I am not impressed with the female doctor sorry. You can break my ribs so long you can guarantee that I have a second chance (yes i can die from a punctured organ due to a broken rib but) To not start compression because you don't want to break my rib uhhmmm
I believe that same doctor broke a small girls ribs on her first code, may be a bit of a ohh shit don't wanna do it again moment it happens sometimes
I think in this case it's because she is elderly and her broken ribs wouldnt be able to heal the same way a younger persons would leaving her in pain for the rest of her life anyways
But there r times where it is mandatory to do it to keep u alive. Do u want to be alive or dead
@Izzobel hughes AHH righto, not surprised for some reason I mix them up pretty often
Dr,Manning is a good doctor she knew that she will not survive so she hesitated like April did
You can find full episodes at dailymotion
How are they related
Wait, did the doctors let her go?
Tiny Butterfly
Yes, she passed away after they extubated her!
If they put her on dialysis, she still wouldn’t have survived on her own!
She would be bed ridden and she would have had to have a tracheostomy as she wouldn’t be able to breathe on her own!
They treated the patient and not the disease! They considered her quality of life and knew that if she survived, she wouldn’t have wanted to live like that!
@@Caitzeee Why do you put an exclamation mark after each sentence?
Oh wait nevermind
Just a thought
V-Fib??? Are you kidding me! She is clearly in fucking flatline aka asystolie. You cant shock there
What’s the woman getting so upset about? He’s just lost his mentor and dr manning is just comforting him! Jesus stop being so sensitive!
Ribs oh no 😱
What’s a mentor?
Ping Quana
They are like an advisor and someone who can teach you and help you!
The other nurse said how in her first year of OR nursing, she wanted to quit because she struggled so much with it! That lady who they were treating helped her not to give up!
She meant a lot of Dr Halstead and that nurse (I don’t know her name)
They give guidance and that kind of thing!
For all those people who are saying Dr Manning should have performed CPR, THIS IS A TV SHOW! THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DRAMA- IF THEY HAD LET HER DIE, THEY WOULD OF HAD TO THINK OF A DIFFERENT STORYLINE etc, etc 🤣🙄🤣🙄
I can't find full episodes
What tf is happening?
Episode no and season?
everyone a doctor in the comments
me to Grace
All the doctors with a degree from med line plus or google, or just been watching doctor Mike (😂) going off in the comments. 😁 (is a joke don’t be to sensitive about it)
If I was that and they break my ribs I would be so fking mad
unfortunately in real life, broken ribs are second consideration to a beating heart
Haha, clearly never done cpr or needed cpr on you, because even when you break ribs patients are usually very very thankful after they start recovering properly
they need to because they need to be able to reach the heart
@@mikaylaquadrio1392 what she is saying is that they need to break ribs sometimes as a result of doing correct and full compressions without which the blood will not pump effectively around the body and result in death
Clarification for others as they may not get what your saying not clarifying for you @@mikaylaquadrio1392