Raw Deal - Demo 1988 01. Wall Of Hate 02. Telltale 03. New Release 04. Only The Strong Survive 05. My Reason 06. No More Mr. Nice Guy 07. The Lines Are Drawn
80's yes, but 90s that's debatable. - depends on how much more metal you like in your hardcore punk. I thought the Raw Deal demo ripped. Thought were gonna be the next Sick of It All. = Blood sweat and no tears - vein. Then both bands started experimenting with more metal riffs, and more metal breakdowns and got slower than their first releases, when I lost interest.
I think I lost my original copy of this like 20 years back. This is actually one of my favorite NYHC "albums" of all time. One of the first HC bands I saw live as well.
LYRICS! Anybody got a lyrics sheet to this - I kinda remember the lyrics to "Wall Of Hate" - my fave song from this set. I was real lucky to see them (from a coveted stage right security spot) @ Irving Plaza - THEY KILLED IT, but they really didn't have enough songs for a full set, so everyone was like, "Yo, play "Wall Of Hate" again!". I have never seen a pit go crazier than the second time they played that song. Thanks to whoever put this up - you did everyone a REAL favor! THANKS! REALLY!
Prying eyes cut down to size before a word is spoken Friendship dies with useless lies promises are broken Romantic ties bring outraged cries too strong to ever hide I’m trapped behind a wall of hate that no one sees inside Can’t you read the writing on the wall It’s too late for anyone at all Don’t try to touch me cuz there’s nothing you can do If you get too close this wall will fall all over you
Great N.Y.C. Hardcore! Them and Sick Of It All are my favorite bands from the late "80", s From N.Y.C. But there so many great Hardcore bands from N.Y. during the late " 80" s and early "90", s too! N.Y.C.Hardcore Lives!!
i love this so much. this is ripping so hard. if i could go back in time and live through anything itd be the origin of hardcore punk and as thrash became a thing id have just as much and more fun
Great Hardcore them Sick of it all Breakdown Outburst And many other bands of the late "80", s and early " 90", s were great. Started going to shows in "1986" and seen a lot of Hardcore shows in N.Y. at The Wetlands C.I.H. Bond street cafe CBGB's and other clubs always had lots of fun it was a very strong Scene and 90℅ of the people I met and seen were cool! The shows back then were anywhere From $2.00 to $12.00 depending in which club you went to and most shows I went to there were always 3 to 6 or even some 7 bands that were on the bill that day. Especially Matinee shows on Sunday.
Sunday matinees were the best venues and in NJ the American legion and v.f.w. shows always had a ton of bands on the bill for like 5 bucks at the door I miss those times
Brough Jidus love your comment... the new breed comp s couple years ago was released on double Vinyl.. Just to case you haven’t heard awesome compilation
This really is special...listening to this type of music for 28 years or so i've heard ALOT and this tape was really high quality...the recording and the songs themselves...just amazingly good..this and fathead suburbia and new york wolfpack were all top notch nyhc bands of this time
Great Demo of then Raw Deal before they changed there name to Killing Time. The Record. company had a mail in promotion of buying this on Cassette for 3.00 plus other bands like Sick Of It All too just to name a couple!
Wall if hate is one of the best hardcore songs of 88. I call it hardcore punk still tho..at this point these guys hadnt dropped the punk part of it in my opinion. Seems like I remember their being a different demo tape of this goin around too....loved this band a lot... still do actually...
When hardcore still sounded like hardcore. A friend recorded this off his vinyl for me, was a bit crushed when the tape died. I havent heard this since 89. Thanks for puttin it up Yeah Killing Time was crap compared to this
still some good new bands that are coming out mate, like Violent Reaction - 86 Mentality- Semper Eadem - Skrapyard, No Time (awesome retro Hc band from Canada too ) etc just more underground these days I suppose. Just got to know where to look
Shit man i have an old vhs dub of KT playing every one of these songs live and they are fucking killing it!!!! Honestly those live songs sound just like this demo but a little bit faster.
One of the few bands from that era that were exceptional. Great riffs and great lyrics and at times I would laugh at how pissed off the lyrics were. Hardcore has a lot things you can laugh at in hindsight. Why did they change their name to Killing Time? I think it was bad move and a shitty name. When bands change their name, especially when they are gaining in popularity it's always usually a bad move. Most of those NYHC bands were a dime a dozen and I rarely go back and listen to them. Back in the late 80's when these bands were relevant I would listen to a lot of NYHC, Metal, Punk, and the NO Wave NYC was high on my list. I was pretty diverse so NYHC bands was big on my playlist for a couple of years. I landed on Noise Rock and stayed in that genre for years. I'm just blabberin.. My small list of NYHC bands I still listen to every now and then Nausea / Agnostic Front / GB / SIDEBYSIDE / Sheer Terror / Warzone / Cro-mags / Raw Deal / Born Against (really not a NYHC band but I can't think where else to throw them) and same goes for Rohrshack.
The name change was due to an already existing band that had the name "Raw Deal". I believe they were a band from the UK that never really went anywhere.
one of the best demos of NYHC
i still have the original demo tape with the photo copied insert. this is pretty good quality, thanks . the 80's and early 90's rocked for NYHC
let me get that
80's yes, but 90s that's debatable. - depends on how much more metal you like in your hardcore punk. I thought the Raw Deal demo ripped. Thought were gonna be the next Sick of It All. = Blood sweat and no tears - vein. Then both bands started experimenting with more metal riffs, and more metal breakdowns and got slower than their first releases, when I lost interest.
@@colddaze6680 First Killing Time album sounds more like Metallica than Agnostic Front or S.O.I.A.
@@piotrb8434 yeah the demo sounded more like Nyhc when they were Raw Deal though
That's bad ass
I think I lost my original copy of this like 20 years back. This is actually one of my favorite NYHC "albums" of all time. One of the first HC bands I saw live as well.
This the breakdown and the sick of it all in my permanent top 3 demos. Behind of course the CRO MAGS
I was there
Beyond
one of the best nyhc demos period
I l9ved new york wolfpack too. Just found a nice copy of that one
Raw Deal. ...the real deal!
I like The production on this. Drums sound really good, everything is just right. The mix is top notch.
I'll always remember the Raw Deal version of "Brightside" on the Sunday Matinee' comp. Great post, thanks a ton for posting!
Still have this demo tape. One of my favorite live bands, ever! Hard as hell. Another great Alley Way Crew band. #Anthrax
classic stuff
One of the very best, amazing demo
LYRICS! Anybody got a lyrics sheet to this - I kinda remember the lyrics to "Wall Of Hate" - my fave song from this set. I was real lucky to see them (from a coveted stage right security spot) @ Irving Plaza - THEY KILLED IT, but they really didn't have enough songs for a full set, so everyone was like, "Yo, play "Wall Of Hate" again!". I have never seen a pit go crazier than the second time they played that song. Thanks to whoever put this up - you did everyone a REAL favor! THANKS! REALLY!
Lee - Hit me up if you still want lyrics.
Wasn't that show w the Circle Jerks
@@timothybrosnan4769 I'd like them
Sometimes if ya play it back slow you can hear what they say better. Try adjusting the play back speed
Prying eyes cut down to size before a word is spoken
Friendship dies with useless lies promises are broken
Romantic ties bring outraged cries too strong to ever hide
I’m trapped behind a wall of hate that no one sees inside
Can’t you read the writing on the wall
It’s too late for anyone at all
Don’t try to touch me cuz there’s nothing you can do
If you get too close this wall will fall all over you
Raw Deal is my favorite band i love you
Great N.Y.C. Hardcore! Them and Sick Of It All are my favorite bands from the late "80", s From N.Y.C. But there so many great Hardcore bands from N.Y. during the late " 80" s and early "90", s too! N.Y.C.Hardcore Lives!!
YO!!!!!!! Respect for putting this up.
i love this so much. this is ripping so hard. if i could go back in time and live through anything itd be the origin of hardcore punk and as thrash became a thing id have just as much and more fun
One of the best.
what a record. incredible
the boys were good!
Great Hardcore them Sick of it all Breakdown Outburst And many other bands of the late "80", s and early " 90", s were great. Started going to shows in "1986" and seen a lot of Hardcore shows in N.Y. at The Wetlands C.I.H. Bond street cafe CBGB's and other clubs always had lots of fun it was a very strong Scene and 90℅ of the people I met and seen were cool! The shows back then were anywhere From $2.00 to $12.00 depending in which club you went to and most shows I went to there were always 3 to 6 or even some 7 bands that were on the bill that day. Especially Matinee shows on Sunday.
Sunday matinees were the best venues and in NJ the American legion and v.f.w. shows always had a ton of bands on the bill for like 5 bucks at the door I miss those times
Thanks brother! Been looking for this band for years but couldn't remember their name!
Thank you! Waiting for someone to post the stuff before Killing Time. I remember buying this!
Raw Deal! NYC
awesome!!
Du bon hardcore New-Yorkais....C'est toujours un régal pour les oreilles...
remember them at scott hall ....awsome
this goes so hard
This is great!! I'm not gonna dis KT(it was before my time, i never heard raw) But Im loving there songs stripped!
THANKS!
Yes, this went over bazonkers on stage, like at the Anthrax before the band got really big and had to change the name. Great memories!
Saw them right after the name change. Just another Raw Deal. So good.
Raw Deal/Killing Time, The Abused, Antidote, Sheer Terror, Sick of it All, Agnostic Front
Holy Fuck this brings me back, total gamechanger!! Thank you
Great!
I jammed to this tape in 1988 in my 1970 buick
I think they are also on the new breed tape comp I have that tape as well. Good stuff!
Brough Jidus love your comment... the new breed comp s couple years ago was released on double Vinyl.. Just to case you haven’t heard awesome compilation
This really is special...listening to this type of music for 28 years or so i've heard ALOT and this tape was really high quality...the recording and the songs themselves...just amazingly good..this and fathead suburbia and new york wolfpack were all top notch nyhc bands of this time
Damn I'm old but still down
classic
Telltale is even more raw here uoooool
I have a reason for my anger... and that reason is FOOD!... RIP Ian Keeler... this demo rules .
RIP to all who are gone to early. Stroe Ian mark shitty plus any I forgot. One of my favorite demos of all time. Hearing it again gives me
kills!
My favorite hard-core band. Tried to see then play at every possible show. CBGB's best shows..
I‘m old. I saw them as Raw Deal at CBGB‘s.
i LOVE THIS SHIT!
Awesome pre Killing Time!👊
great still have the orig tape had a yellow cover
I broke the tape. There is a demo ep on discogs.
Dat good shit. Word.
Great Demo of then Raw Deal before they changed there name to Killing Time. The Record. company had a mail in promotion of buying this on Cassette for 3.00 plus other bands like Sick Of It All too just to name a couple!
Wall if hate is one of the best hardcore songs of 88. I call it hardcore punk still tho..at this point these guys hadnt dropped the punk part of it in my opinion. Seems like I remember their being a different demo tape of this goin around too....loved this band a lot... still do actually...
I find you à réal great old school HC band. I was 53years and make your band....long-live....
to the death my brothers
My favorite NYHC option.
this is the shit...........from back then
You want hardcore??... here it is
Later Killing Time
When hardcore still sounded like hardcore. A friend recorded this off his vinyl for me, was a bit crushed when the tape died. I havent heard this since 89. Thanks for puttin it up
Yeah Killing Time was crap compared to this
+Cold Daze like you said! when HC sounded like it had to be! now HC sux!
still some good new bands that are coming out mate, like Violent Reaction - 86 Mentality- Semper Eadem - Skrapyard, No Time (awesome retro Hc band from Canada too ) etc just more underground these days I suppose. Just got to know where to look
violent reaction sounds super indeed! will check the other ones! ooh i am in the underground. always looking for bands..... thx for the tips anyway!!!
no worries mate, glad you liked, they're a great new band , that pays homage to the roots
+Cold Daze Listen to Dress Code
I like what I'm listening to, but what's needed is a much better band name!!
New York Hard Core!!!! When the scene was great
TheKennykk dam right 1989 forever
The Definition of New York hard-core 88..89
There shows we're so insane, as you hear every song is relentless.
Killing time blows though
Shit man i have an old vhs dub of KT playing every one of these songs live and they are fucking killing it!!!! Honestly those live songs sound just like this demo but a little bit faster.
Killing time was awesome as their shows displayed over and over again.
hahahahaaa!
Look there goes Indian Larry !
Feinster New York Hardcore
One of the few bands from that era that were exceptional. Great riffs and great lyrics and at times I would laugh at how pissed off the lyrics were. Hardcore has a lot things you can laugh at in hindsight. Why did they change their name to Killing Time? I think it was bad move and a shitty name. When bands change their name, especially when they are gaining in popularity it's always usually a bad move. Most of those NYHC bands were a dime a dozen and I rarely go back and listen to them. Back in the late 80's when these bands were relevant I would listen to a lot of NYHC, Metal, Punk, and the NO Wave NYC was high on my list. I was pretty diverse so NYHC bands was big on my playlist for a couple of years. I landed on Noise Rock and stayed in that genre for years. I'm just blabberin.. My small list of NYHC bands I still listen to every now and then
Nausea / Agnostic Front / GB / SIDEBYSIDE / Sheer Terror / Warzone / Cro-mags / Raw Deal / Born Against (really not a NYHC band but I can't think where else to throw them) and same goes for Rohrshack.
The name change was due to an already existing band that had the name "Raw Deal". I believe they were a band from the UK that never really went anywhere.
Another band called raw deal copyrighted their name
@@DoverPipes yea, the other Raw Deal were from England.
The drummer is my kinda dude! Kikn ASS who is he?
99% sure Anthony Drago (from Breakdown) is your man here. A few of the Breakdown boys split from the singer and started Raw Deal fresh.
It's Drago. I grew up with him. I still go see them play. Were in our 50s.
Tougher than Lee Haney's Workout!
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