It takes, for me, the death of this great artist in order to explore him. Here, he is so young! with a direct, simple intelligence, belying his depth. This long painting is absolutely gorgeous. It moves me, not emotionally as Rothco's work does, but into a realm of awe. Rest in peace, with infinite gratitude.
On the wall and in his utterance, Stella has the figures/vocabulary to make extraordinary, everyday sense. His paintings and sculptures have always owned these amazing and unique properties; they're lucid and inevitable, available, delightful and still subversive, industriall-ish hard edged but obviously hand crafted. Read his Norton Lectures from Harvard.
My first job in a long career as curator and critic in the world of art, was at a well known foundatin where Frank Stella along with other illustrious artists sat on the jury. I had the pleasure at the young age of 23 to sit with him day after day and then eat at fancy eateries for lunch for a whole week with the jury and like a fly on the wall listen to how they came to conclusions about some of the top artists in Latin America and the US and decide if they were receipients of a fellowship. His manner and conversation deeply impacted me, along with George Segal, and encouraged me to continue my love for art and to go on and myself mentor artists, making a difference for them and for me within the framework of art.
The term is Analytical abstract art. Meaning the art is for the Analytical to encourage, promote and entice the art scene. This is very safe for both the artist and the viewer but it also allows for expansion in both directions of analytical thinking in art but also allows for the indulgence of the abstract thinking. It is good for art, it is good for the Analytical and it is a great way to become involved in the understanding of art because the progression of the artists art can often be very apparent.
Fantastico oque a simplicidade do traço reto abstrato, faz se um caráter simples e direto, mas tb cru e frio tipico das pinturas abstratas, são inspirações diretas do meu próprio trabalho .
I think that he is calculated. But it's so calculated and cold that it becomes predictable. Innit being predictable, he forces us to trust his shape. In trusting his pattern and shape I become comfortable and in that pseudo-comfort lies warmth. He makes you comfortable with the uncomfortability that he causes
thanks great post iv always stoped n looked at his paintings the black ones in difrent museams i loved um! cool to hear him talk about them 3:36 flatness n depth i like what im hearing !!! THIS THAT N THE OTHER . HA HA HA
They were so overwhelming on a physical level as sculpture-paintings that they became a kind of totems. So he broke the picture plane but also expanded the concept of painting so far beyond canvas and color, into its own aesthetic constellation.
@misternylon easily my favorite of the clique of that era...im not a non-representational artist bu there is a quality about our work that i find strangely similar, and strangely similarly interesting. here i see the part of sneaker decal, here a polyesther bedsheet from the 70s... BUT i like his hard lines and I like his use of a white field, and he bests rothko (who used blurry lines). I like his monologue a lot, it has a lot of universal appeal even out of context.
I actually disagree. I think his early paintings are deceptively simple. But once you realize how deliberate, meticulous , and careful every stroke and detail is, you realize how much is actually being said. I think that's what makes them superior to earlier abstract expressionism in their own right. The early abstract expressionism is brilliant and captivating, but one loses track of the skill and craftsmanship that goes into their design. I think Stella's work forces you to acknowledge his masterful craftsmanship and depth in it's meticulous nature compared to what is lost in the spontaneity of early abstract expressionism.
I think there are some people who have a sublime artistic logic and can speak it clearly. However, few people can move and do it like building a house alone.
Like countless other hacks, Stella painted banal migraines. But he would talk endlessly about them without once using the word migraine. Now _that_ is an artist. All the same, RIP Frank Stella
@seth2342 One final idea, to fully express my idea of art, I will use an analogy comparing art to wine. For a good wine, the wine maker works diligently to ensure that the grapes grow well and that all other processes go as intended. It is a laborious process, requiring much skill and diligence, and in the end, the volume of wine produced is relatively small. The bad wine maker does not put in nearly as much effort and simply creates large volumes of mediocre wine...
@seth2342 Above all things in art, I value technical brilliance, and if that technical brilliance is also incredibly creative, then for me, it is perfection.
@artrca1000 I assert that not all work need to be driven by reaction. It implies that there can't be good work that is not made in reaction to something else.
@seth2342 Furthermore, visual art is the form which I know the least about, and it happens that it is very different from music (in terms of interpretation), in that humans can obviously interpret things which they see more easily and in more depth than things they hear, in my opinion. And due to the technical nature of composition, I have been able to win many an argument asserting my beliefs in terms of music...
when i first saw this video i remember thinking, wow...i couldnt understand what he was saying. but i remember it was more about the scene or artistic culture he was inhabiting, as much as what he was saying literally, words alone.
@seth2342 For something to be art, it must have some aesthetic value, some intellectual value, and not required but always preferred, some emotional value. If you do not set up those requirements, then everything is art and everyone an artist. This is something that simple common sense can deem ridiculous. People, due to their naïveté, often believe in the idea that one cannot define art. But art is something that appeals to aesthetic, intellectual, and emotional desires.
@seth2342 but after that, what could be considered fine art often required little to no skill, and although it might be creative, it is unfiltered, raw creativity which is not intellectual, but instinctual. What is more impressive for me is taking creativity, then using judgment and knowledge to create a beautiful piece of art, music, etc. While the idea of unfiltered human creativity may be quite interesting, in practicality, it is to chaotic, the most extreme example would be Pollock...
@c0kar7 that would be GREAT you dont understand how much that helps I teach at 3 alternative high schools in Montreal so I need to go outside of the box all the time...if you could amazing...!!!!
@misternylon well he had fucking great glasses. Those frames are so much better looking than what people have today. They're even better than woody allen's. There's such a subtlety about them. The high moderns really had a lot, certainly not everything, and so many people hated them (because they were stupid people.) who had stupid superficial ideas. But dont you think everyone wore glasses then because they "thought you looked smart?" or was optometry just so established that glasses were life.
hey ia m an art teacher...high school and i am trying to get this type of footage at school but they block youtube so you know where i can get this....???
@seth2342 One reply, then I am done. When I want complex ideas, I much prefer literature, becuase I believe it is a better medium for them. Also, one of my favorite paintings is Persistance of Memory, not just becuase it looks life-like, but becuase I see the melted clocks in relation to relativity, in that time is flexable "substance." When I go to college, I plan to take some art history courses, I mabey there I can expand my horizon. Finally, although I am quite subjective, you are as well.
what happened. you must have people buying promoting displaying it, talking about it thinking about it. Now, even if some few people are doing it, it stays private in people's barns and sheds mostly.
@seth2342 This final series of comments is to set a few things straight. I crave complexity and form in any type of art, and I also have a simple respect for any work that displays true craftmenship. It is for these reasons that I will probably never be able to enjoy 20th century art (except for surrealism which I do like). Also, about the final aspect of my argument which you refuted, you obviously did not see the word "usually." Regardless, any Van Gogh is sloppy, and is not very percise...
@seth2342 I will admit, I am not a scholar of the visual arts, but when you compare this work to those done by artists of the Renaissance, Baroque, or even the Impressionist era, there is no comparison. There is no mastery in Frank Stella’s work, as it is just simple geometric designs. And for Dan Flavin and James Turrell, their work also lacksany complexity. The work of Olafur Eliasson is somewhat interesting, simply because of its textures...
You could argue that davinci had no skill, just arbitrary shading. I like both painters and I don't appreciate you dragging one down for the sake of your "renaissance" fantasy.
@seth2342 so I am not surprised he could make a portrait in a day. And the Picasso, I thought you were talking about one of his early, and very respectable, works. Not so, so I am not surprised either. I also do firmly believe that Western culture is much more sophisticated in art, music, and theatre. The Far East is somewhat respectable in my opinion, but beyond that, it is childish. That is what it finally boils down to for me. The pre-20th century works required ample skill and creativity...
@seth2342 But, I have little knowledge of visual art, so my arguments are based off of my musical ones, where my basis is technical achievement (counterpoint, development, etc.), which is the most challenging aspect of musical composition, once again, in my opinion. My opinions of visual art still stand, but I failed to accept individual perception of art, and I apologize for wasting your time.
@seth2342 The good wine maker is a painter of the "archaic" eras of the Renaissance and Baroque eras, as they amount of art they produced was small, but of high quality. Modernists, like Frank Stella, are the bad wine makers, who can produce large volumes of mediocre art, as they do not put in the time to come up with creatively detailed works. Finally, in terms of the consumer, you, myself, and all others; the consumer lacking in taste cannot discern between a good wine, and a bad wine...
This 20th. Century artist seems to paint close-ups of his dress shirts so they may be limited kinds of self-portraits, squarish, angular, and superficial.
@seth2342 Pollock is a lot like frank stella. The "hype" is different. i thinkk that minimalism and abstract expressionism probably express alienation. they're both couched int he historical avnte-garde.....as for myricardo-=obvious "troll" (chuckle)
Sounds like architectural concerns and is therefore sharing the realm of Architecture which is a weakness. The scale is trying to infringe upon the wall as architectural space.
@seth2342 All of your isms you claim to be approaching art from a more scientific standpoint are actually approaching it from a more experiential standpoint. Vast difference.
I concede defeat. I am very mathematical in my thinking and I tend to believe there is always one definitive answer. This idea tends to spill over into subjects where it is not true from time to time. And while it sounds incredibly childish, I failed to accept that just because I do not see value in something does not mean that it does not exists; to someone else at least...
@seth2342 Minimalism, to me at least, is the opposite. Creativity is restricted to such a degree that there is no detail or intricacy, and true genius is in the details. Finally, you argument is more bulk than substance, and while I did read it closely, little truly did defeat my argument, and you will probably just accuse me of not opening my mind to another perspective. I could easily go through your argument and critique it, but you will not see my logic, so it is pointless...
@seth2342 It is a case of the Emperor has no Clothes. As you, and many other art scholars, desiring to be accepted amongst the educated artistic community, abandon discriminating, "archaic" tastes that would make it seem as though you fail to recognize the non-existent value of modernism. It in fact has little value, as the artist no longer cares for the quality of his or her work, which is why they can produce such large volumes. Your subconscious will prevent you from recognizing this...
@seth2342 And in order to be considered a member of the "educated" art community, one must abandon discriminating taste and adopt the modernist view of art. But, I say that "educated" critics, such as yourself, are the less tasteful, just as the wine taster who lacks taste cannot discern between a good wine and a bad one. While you may be educated, your taste is not at all intellectual, as you cannot see how childish and inferior the work of modernists really is...
@seth2342 Finally, you make me seem as though I am the ignorant critic, who cannot see the value of modernism. I can relate to being elitist in terms of artistic opinion, but I am more educated in music. The difference is that I am justified in believing my opinion is superior, as a support the best type of music as established by simple logic. But your opinion is not justified, as you support inferior and low quality work. I cannot wait to see your disillusioned comments.
It takes, for me, the death of this great artist in order to explore him.
Here, he is so young! with a direct, simple intelligence, belying his depth.
This long painting is absolutely gorgeous. It moves me, not emotionally as Rothco's work does, but into a realm of awe.
Rest in peace, with infinite gratitude.
Condolences to his family 🖤
I have fallen in love this this painter. Amazing.
On the wall and in his utterance, Stella has the figures/vocabulary to make extraordinary, everyday sense. His paintings and sculptures have always owned these amazing and unique properties; they're lucid and inevitable, available, delightful and still subversive, industriall-ish hard edged but obviously hand crafted. Read his Norton Lectures from Harvard.
I love his black paintings, there's really something about them that keeps me coming back. interesting guy
My first job in a long career as curator and critic in the world of art, was at a well known foundatin where Frank Stella along with other illustrious artists sat on the jury. I had the pleasure at the young age of 23 to sit with him day after day and then eat at fancy eateries for lunch for a whole week with the jury and like a fly on the wall listen to how they came to conclusions about some of the top artists in Latin America and the US and decide if they were receipients of a fellowship.
His manner and conversation deeply impacted me, along with George Segal, and encouraged me to continue my love for art and to go on and myself mentor artists, making a difference for them and for me within the framework of art.
The term is Analytical abstract art. Meaning the art is for the Analytical to encourage, promote and entice the art scene. This is very safe for both the artist and the viewer but it also allows for expansion in both directions of analytical thinking in art but also allows for the indulgence of the abstract thinking. It is good for art, it is good for the Analytical and it is a great way to become involved in the understanding of art because the progression of the artists art can often be very apparent.
How can all these words be written without any reference to feeling? the most essential of qualities for both creating artist and receptive viewers.
amazing art, philosophical , analytical
I agree. Paintings to ponder and to marvel at.
Fantastico oque a simplicidade do traço reto abstrato, faz se um caráter simples e direto, mas tb cru e frio tipico das pinturas abstratas, são inspirações diretas do meu próprio trabalho .
No thought reflection? Meditative and patterned ! Sublime and surreal!
I love this guy's work.
I think that he is calculated. But it's so calculated and cold that it becomes predictable. Innit being predictable, he forces us to trust his shape. In trusting his pattern and shape I become comfortable and in that pseudo-comfort lies warmth.
He makes you comfortable with the uncomfortability that he causes
he was so great in every way
Frank Stella is easy to interview because he loves talking .
thanks great post iv always stoped n looked at his paintings the black ones in difrent museams i loved um! cool to hear him talk about them 3:36 flatness n depth i like what im hearing !!!
THIS THAT N THE OTHER . HA HA HA
They were so overwhelming on a physical level as sculpture-paintings that they became a kind of totems. So he broke the picture plane but also expanded the concept of painting so far beyond canvas and color, into its own aesthetic constellation.
Love the curly hair...just awesome artist.
His artwork Zambezi really got my attention, when I visited the SFOMA
@misternylon easily my favorite of the clique of that era...im not a non-representational artist bu there is a quality about our work that i find strangely similar, and strangely similarly interesting. here i see the part of sneaker decal, here a polyesther bedsheet from the 70s... BUT i like his hard lines and I like his use of a white field, and he bests rothko (who used blurry lines). I like his monologue a lot, it has a lot of universal appeal even out of context.
May 12, 1972. It was Friday. I went to school (4th grade), then on to Weekday Church School at my church. That was pretty much my day back then.
I am greatly impressed by how much verbiage was expelled about minimalist art. There is more in his description than in his paintings.
I actually disagree. I think his early paintings are deceptively simple. But once you realize how deliberate, meticulous , and careful every stroke and detail is, you realize how much is actually being said. I think that's what makes them superior to earlier abstract expressionism in their own right. The early abstract expressionism is brilliant and captivating, but one loses track of the skill and craftsmanship that goes into their design. I think Stella's work forces you to acknowledge his masterful craftsmanship and depth in it's meticulous nature compared to what is lost in the spontaneity of early abstract expressionism.
@@WHOAM1894 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Exactly!!!
I'd love to see the drawings.
I think there are some people who have a sublime artistic logic and can speak it clearly.
However, few people can move and do it like building a house alone.
Simply amazing!
Finalmente un video di Frank Stella...
Lo aspettavo...
:D
RIP. A giant.
Interesting in the context of how his work developed in his late career.
Stella is so eloquent
paperfeathers Stellaquent?
i LOVE Frank Stella!!!
Thanks for the share, very interesting!
This is very good.
Like countless other hacks, Stella painted banal migraines. But he would talk endlessly about them without once using the word migraine. Now _that_ is an artist.
All the same, RIP Frank Stella
Lol, and brilliant!
Excelente!!
Due to illness, The Part Of Frank Stella will be played tonight by a young Woody Allen.
@seth2342 One final idea, to fully express my idea of art, I will use an analogy comparing art to wine. For a good wine, the wine maker works diligently to ensure that the grapes grow well and that all other processes go as intended. It is a laborious process, requiring much skill and diligence, and in the end, the volume of wine produced is relatively small. The bad wine maker does not put in nearly as much effort and simply creates large volumes of mediocre wine...
@seth2342 Above all things in art, I value technical brilliance, and if that technical brilliance is also incredibly creative, then for me, it is perfection.
@artrca1000 I assert that not all work need to be driven by reaction. It implies that there can't be good work that is not made in reaction to something else.
super art 111
whaaaaaaa! give it!
@seth2342 Furthermore, visual art is the form which I know the least about, and it happens that it is very different from music (in terms of interpretation), in that humans can obviously interpret things which they see more easily and in more depth than things they hear, in my opinion. And due to the technical nature of composition, I have been able to win many an argument asserting my beliefs in terms of music...
"aaahhhh........"
when i first saw this video i remember thinking, wow...i couldnt understand what he was saying. but i remember it was more about the scene or artistic culture he was inhabiting, as much as what he was saying literally, words alone.
Oy! The gesture!
@seth2342 For something to be art, it must have some aesthetic value, some intellectual value, and not required but always preferred, some emotional value. If you do not set up those requirements, then everything is art and everyone an artist. This is something that simple common sense can deem ridiculous. People, due to their naïveté, often believe in the idea that one cannot define art. But art is something that appeals to aesthetic, intellectual, and emotional desires.
@seth2342 but after that, what could be considered fine art often required little to no skill, and although it might be creative, it is unfiltered, raw creativity which is not intellectual, but instinctual. What is more impressive for me is taking creativity, then using judgment and knowledge to create a beautiful piece of art, music, etc. While the idea of unfiltered human creativity may be quite interesting, in practicality, it is to chaotic, the most extreme example would be Pollock...
@c0kar7 that would be GREAT you dont understand how much that helps I teach at 3 alternative high schools in Montreal so I need to go outside of the box all the time...if you could amazing...!!!!
woah this.. is OLDD bro0-0
Could you please tell me where this film came from? Would it be possible to obtain a screening license?
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Frank Stella passed away today May 4 2024 the abstract Master
RIP
Can I please have the bibliography of this vedio?
Director, Publisher
Published date...ect
@seth2342 Finally, regardless of how you define art, it usually is not good art unless it is difficult to create.
What documentary is this clip taken from ?
Where is this video taken from? Was it a tv show, a dvd or a documentary?
Painters painting 1973. The documentary is on UA-cam.
@misternylon well he had fucking great glasses. Those frames are so much better looking than what people have today. They're even better than woody allen's. There's such a subtlety about them. The high moderns really had a lot, certainly not everything, and so many people hated them (because they were stupid people.) who had stupid superficial ideas. But dont you think everyone wore glasses then because they "thought you looked smart?" or was optometry just so established that glasses were life.
RIP g
hey ia m an art teacher...high school and i am trying to get this type of footage at school but they block youtube so you know where i can get this....???
so ... What you see is what you see
@misternylon you don't need to use cryogenics, he's still alive.
@seth2342 One reply, then I am done. When I want complex ideas, I much prefer literature, becuase I believe it is a better medium for them. Also, one of my favorite paintings is Persistance of Memory, not just becuase it looks life-like, but becuase I see the melted clocks in relation to relativity, in that time is flexable "substance." When I go to college, I plan to take some art history courses, I mabey there I can expand my horizon. Finally, although I am quite subjective, you are as well.
using the curve to keep the colour travel.......lol.
I am completely unmoved. I don't know how these became museum exhibits.
@seth2342 The problem is that minimalism as an entire movement lacks artistic value, and whether it has had influence does not justify it as "art."
its amazing how much like Woody Allen he resembles
somebody say why it is that they feel a thing looking at the paintings - -
if there really is anything
what happened. you must have people buying promoting displaying it, talking about it thinking about it. Now, even if some few people are doing it, it stays private in people's barns and sheds mostly.
big crush on him
@seth2342 This final series of comments is to set a few things straight. I crave complexity and form in any type of art, and I also have a simple respect for any work that displays true craftmenship. It is for these reasons that I will probably never be able to enjoy 20th century art (except for surrealism which I do like). Also, about the final aspect of my argument which you refuted, you obviously did not see the word "usually." Regardless, any Van Gogh is sloppy, and is not very percise...
#1
if one day ill make money, ill buy stella
@seth2342 I will admit, I am not a scholar of the visual arts, but when you compare this work to those done by artists of the Renaissance, Baroque, or even the Impressionist era, there is no comparison. There is no mastery in Frank Stella’s work, as it is just simple geometric designs. And for Dan Flavin and James Turrell, their work also lacksany complexity. The work of Olafur Eliasson is somewhat interesting, simply because of its textures...
You could argue that davinci had no skill, just arbitrary shading.
I like both painters and I don't appreciate you dragging one down for the sake of your "renaissance" fantasy.
@seth2342 If you do not like my definition, please provide me with yours.
@seth2342 so I am not surprised he could make a portrait in a day. And the Picasso, I thought you were talking about one of his early, and very respectable, works. Not so, so I am not surprised either. I also do firmly believe that Western culture is much more sophisticated in art, music, and theatre. The Far East is somewhat respectable in my opinion, but beyond that, it is childish. That is what it finally boils down to for me. The pre-20th century works required ample skill and creativity...
@seth2342 Explain, please.
@seth2342 But, I have little knowledge of visual art, so my arguments are based off of my musical ones, where my basis is technical achievement (counterpoint, development, etc.), which is the most challenging aspect of musical composition, once again, in my opinion. My opinions of visual art still stand, but I failed to accept individual perception of art, and I apologize for wasting your time.
@seth2342 The good wine maker is a painter of the "archaic" eras of the Renaissance and Baroque eras, as they amount of art they produced was small, but of high quality. Modernists, like Frank Stella, are the bad wine makers, who can produce large volumes of mediocre art, as they do not put in the time to come up with creatively detailed works. Finally, in terms of the consumer, you, myself, and all others; the consumer lacking in taste cannot discern between a good wine, and a bad wine...
The Emperor has no clothes allusion may have gone a bit far, but besides that, did I say anything incorrect?
This 20th. Century artist seems to paint close-ups of his dress shirts so they may be limited kinds of self-portraits, squarish, angular, and superficial.
@seth2342 Pollock is a lot like frank stella. The "hype" is different. i thinkk that minimalism and abstract expressionism probably express alienation. they're both couched int he historical avnte-garde.....as for myricardo-=obvious "troll" (chuckle)
Black paintings are the topic of IBM.
#MrMelgibstein
he makes a lot of sense
Sean Penn - Carlito's Way
Due to illness, the part of Woody Allen playing the part of Frank Stella will be played by Sean Penn.
@seth2342 Furthermore, Frank Stella's work does not posses any of these values.
i really dont like his plain grey or black pieces they are so gloomy. even though i sometimes make paintings like that and i end up hating them.
Sounds like architectural concerns and is therefore sharing the realm of Architecture which is a weakness. The scale is trying to infringe upon the wall as architectural space.
@seth2342 All of your isms you claim to be approaching art from a more scientific standpoint are actually approaching it from a more experiential standpoint. Vast difference.
I concede defeat. I am very mathematical in my thinking and I tend to believe there is always one definitive answer. This idea tends to spill over into subjects where it is not true from time to time. And while it sounds incredibly childish, I failed to accept that just because I do not see value in something does not mean that it does not exists; to someone else at least...
Wallpaper.
Yes you should be 🐎🐎🐎🦘🦘🦘🐨🐨🐨
Woody Allen as a painter
@seth2342 Minimalism, to me at least, is the opposite. Creativity is restricted to such a degree that there is no detail or intricacy, and true genius is in the details. Finally, you argument is more bulk than substance, and while I did read it closely, little truly did defeat my argument, and you will probably just accuse me of not opening my mind to another perspective. I could easily go through your argument and critique it, but you will not see my logic, so it is pointless...
@seth2342 It is a case of the Emperor has no Clothes. As you, and many other art scholars, desiring to be accepted amongst the educated artistic community, abandon discriminating, "archaic" tastes that would make it seem as though you fail to recognize the non-existent value of modernism. It in fact has little value, as the artist no longer cares for the quality of his or her work, which is why they can produce such large volumes. Your subconscious will prevent you from recognizing this...
whatever happened to this quality in Art? Answer Post Modernism Geoff Pattison
that is cold and PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL!!
@seth2342 We will obviously never convince each other of anything, so farewell, and enjoy your "art."
The pseudo-intellectual comments are insane
whatever !! its all ART , everything is art and everything is politics :) no WORDS ,THOUGHT NEEDED ,just DO IT ,no explanation Needed ?
@seth2342 And in order to be considered a member of the "educated" art community, one must abandon discriminating taste and adopt the modernist view of art. But, I say that "educated" critics, such as yourself, are the less tasteful, just as the wine taster who lacks taste cannot discern between a good wine and a bad one. While you may be educated, your taste is not at all intellectual, as you cannot see how childish and inferior the work of modernists really is...
@seth2342 Finally, you make me seem as though I am the ignorant critic, who cannot see the value of modernism. I can relate to being elitist in terms of artistic opinion, but I am more educated in music. The difference is that I am justified in believing my opinion is superior, as a support the best type of music as established by simple logic. But your opinion is not justified, as you support inferior and low quality work. I cannot wait to see your disillusioned comments.
2:23
Not feelin it frankie