Engine Problems: I Got Lucky | Shobdon to Gamston Flight Vlog
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- I had some issues starting the Piper Arrow at Shobdon for my flight back to Gamston. It turned out there were much bigger issues than I had thought - and I got lucky this time.
New subscriber here, I stumbled across your channel a few weeks ago. I’m finding it really enjoyable to watch your flights. Cheers 👍🏻
Brilliant video that had me gripped from the start and had an air of tension. I have never flown a plane in my life but felt like I got that one down on the ground myself!!
Glad you are safe and sound, that’s why great training is essential. Good job
Lovely Flight vlog! I’m surprised that fuel pump issue wasn’t picked up after the reported starting issue! Just shows the importance of completing the checklist correctly to ensure all is fine especially on single engine aircraft. ✈️
Wow mate! That's why preflight checks are vital. But yeah, sometimes luck plays a part too. Glad it all ended ok 🙏
Hi Noel cracking videos , how come you haven’t persued an airline pilot career , you have a true passion for aviation and have a great personality for such a role?
his missus wont let him?
Also you should never let your hobby become your job, because then it ceases to be fun. The second word that flashes up on screen during the intro is "FREEDOM" - there's no freedom in going where others tell you to, when they tell you to, and you can't wear a t-shirt while doing it.@@kevinfitz8516
Glad you had good training and handled it quite well! This past year I was flying a Cessna 172S with a student and a cylinder blew up, we had to perform an emergency spiral and land at a small nearby airport. ATC was the best!
Ahhh the mighty Shobbers. My folks lived not far down the road from Shobdon over in Wigmore when I commenced my commercial pilot training. Did the PPL and hour building there, many happy memories (including the amazing people that worked there and indeed the cafe with its amazing breakfasts always on point).
In the many years I've been flying both private and for airlines, gut feeling wins and if something doesn't feel right, odds are it probably isn't.
Keep enjoying the flying and the great work with the videos!
Great videos Noel keep them coming
If I recall correctly with the position of it on the warrior, the fuel pressure gauge on yours is doing a bit of a dance - warning sign there!
I thought the same thing. Been a very long time since I last flew one, but the fuel pressure sits between the two fuel gauges and its certainly doing a merry dance.
I really love all your content, but I really love your flights the most!
That was great, thanks! Usually watch your other channel where you're a Passenger....lol. Enjoyed you African Adventures! I lived in Southern Africa for over 30 years. Went to Rhodesia as a child in '65 and left in '99. Although I did complete my High Schooling in Richmond, then back to Rhodesia in '76.
I'm one of those strange people that love Flight and Aircraft but hate Flying..... Go figure!
Yet another awesome vlog,love watching these,can't wait for the next one😁👍👍
Great video Noel. Have you ever flown into Popham, my local field - EGHP. Nice cafe, lovely field with an interesting approach into RWY 26
Great vid Noel. Nice to see you flying. A relaxed vid that has helped me regain my confidence and passion for aviation. Might see you at an ajrfield when I am out and about in my aircraft, G-POZA.
Nice flight Noel, I`m heading to Easter Airfield near Tain in Scotland tomorrow, super looking forward to it.
Noel, i'm a regulair viewer of your vlog but only very recently discovered you fly yourselve which of course is great !
I was suprised to se a 3 bladed prop on your Arrow, then again to long ago when i was used to see Arrows from my office desk. I flew a PA28 (fixed prop and ldggear) that i had to trottle back at 160 Kts and was able to cruise 120 Kts with 2300RPM, though I'm not an realy expert on small aircraft.
Having said this, i used to switch off master radio during startup, as some electronics really don't like high voltage peaks (voltage, not the current) that may during from the startermotor.
A bad fuelpump is a good reason not to takeoff but during flight of course there is the electric pump to save the day and has nothing to do with electrical problems.
There are a lot of video's of people flying their small craft, but in 20 years yours is one to remind me how i mis my Archer.
I ALWAYS used a checklist.. if you did you would know you start the engine before you turn on your radio, transponder, etc . Otherwise it drains the battery, don't take my word for it check the check list ;-) happy starting and of course happy landing.
You had my heart going when you said it was a major problem with the fuel pump....eeuuuuh....very scary, but a very nice flight and you stayed ahead of the plane with your altitude decent and orbit to space for sequence for 03....nice flying!
Thank you Jon, I’m getting better at looking ahead but still a long way to go!
Glad everything was ok! Love the flight videos!
Problems that go away by themselves come back by themselves. 😀
Never a truer word spoken!
Glad it all worked out well and the issue found on the ground. Id have been a bit worried about that fuel pressure gauge. Hindsight is 2020, great video as always.
Totally enjoy your PIC videos Noel. It is good to hear your radio comms too. The Piper Arrow is kind of a "Sports Car" compared to the good ol' Cessna 172 Skyhawk. Good job sir.
Thanks for up loading nice little flight and with a snag too!!! Fuel pump issue wow !!!
All must be well with this plane, watched it doing circuits of DSA on Thursday.
Yes I believe she’s all mended again now!
Nice work getting her started. Always a bit of a worry!
Thanks Rory, yes it was the realisation a few days later that knocked me!
@@FlyWithNoelPhilips yeah I bet. In the moment you’re just focusing on trying to sort it.
Hi Noel, I've never commented on your channel before, but just wanted to say how much I love you private flying and also your international travel videos. Keep up the good work.
Take care, Jeff
Thank you Jeff, much appreciated!
Hey, I'm only a student in high school so take this with a grain of salt but I noticed you were cranking the throttle while trying to start the engine up and as I understand, that is bad for the engine as it might cause long term damage. Thanks for the videos Noel and fly safe!
Great vlog Noel. What EFB are you using on your iPad? Very interesting display.
It’s sky demon. A phenomenal program. I encourage you to check it out! :)
Interesting video and good points raised. Does the Arrow have a mechanical and an electric aux fuel pump? Glad it all worked out okay for you and the other pilot😊👍🤞
Pipers have two fuel pumps. The one that you checked during the run up is your back up. Do you have that on during takeoff and landing as a back up they will kick in. I personally would’ve never taken off without having a mechanic check that airplane for what was wrong. In my opinion it was very dangerous taking off.
Loving these flight vlogs Noel cant wait for more
Would be good to see a video on what to do if something had gone wrong while you were enroute. A practice call to air guard 121.5 would be nice to see as D&D are always happy to take them. They provide a great service that's not highlighted very often, I wonder how much the GA world are aware of what they can do for a pilot who's in difficulty.
Hi Noel, Finally getting round to getting in the air and started self study ground school here in Zambia. Question on clouds - if you VFR do you not have to "remain clear of clouds" in un controlled airspace?
Maybe an editing thing but wondering how you can manage to fly through the clouds vfr
Love the vids
Hi Ivor, in the UK you can mix IFR/VFR as long as you have an IMC rating (a UK specific version of the full IR).I can fly through IMC with the rating without being on an IFR plan as long as I’m outside of controlled.
I'm interested in this, as I have a few hundred hours on PA28 (thought don't fly anymore). Was it a problem with the mechanical fuel pump or some other cause that also prevented the electric fuel pump from assisting? A potentially nasty one, though, flying at typical UK altitudes, as you'd have to engage the electric pump and then try for a restart using the key and once you recovered from the surprise and ran through the drills, could have lost a few hundred feet.
I see you were wearing a Top Gun t shirt. I'm very glad your flight was safe, it would have been unnerving when you found out what was wrong!
That would have been a NO GO from me sorry. If an engine does not start on the button then I am interested... if it does not start after a couple of attempts then thats it. The issue is, for me anyway, I want to know if I need to re-start that engine that it will re-start. I am going to guess there was an electrical fault with the pump causing major current draw.
You know that's so weird that I came across this video because our car is having sort of a similar issue where it sometimes won't start and or when it does it might then just cut out then not start for a while. I think ours though might be fuel filter and fuel starvation maybe. But I hate it when things like that happen. Even more scary I can imagine in the air though.
Hi Noel. Which ADS-B in device are you using to show so much traffic on Skydemon?
Just dicovered your channel. Looking into ppl. How long did you spread itt out over?
great vid noel but you can see the stress on your face with that engine issue mate
Hi Noel❗❗❗Good evening Noel, I have a question. How you see the traffic on Sky Demon ⁉️
I'm using sky demon but I can't see any traffic...
Is a new update⁉️ Thx good blessed... 🛫🛫🛫
Hi Emerson, I use it with my SkyEcho which provides the traffic (and feeds ADS-B out at the same time).
@@FlyWithNoelPhilips thx Noel... 🛫🛫🛫
🛩hi Noel. I think your channels on utube are great. we also hail from the same area of the midlands. I hail from Mansfield. You have visited it for your channel. Keep up the good work and to you and your family best wishes. 🛬.
Down ticked. He is still alive.
Hi noel! Just a little advise, when you move the prop lever don’t add power or take power off that aggressively, it isn’t that good for the engine. Try to be a little slower and progressive. I guess the arrow with the lycoming engine isn’t bothered that much but if you ever step up into other planes be sure to be more gentle with the blue lever. Great video by the way, cheers!
You're exactly right. It's very very bad engine handling and will ultimately result in damage. Not only that but he tries to start the engine with EVERY navaid turned on. No wonder the starter was struggling. I wouldn't be surprised if the pump failure was a result of him abusing the aircraft getting it started. That throttle technique gave me anxiety.
always have a back up pump ready to use
I would never turn the engine with radios on...
Yes it’s a very bad habit I’ve got myself into, but lesson learned with this flight.
I suspect the checklist says to turn on the electronics after engine start. You can hear the gyros winding down during engine start indicating low voltage. Having avionics on during engine start or shutdown can damage them due to potential voltage spikes.
@@rmactvc yup, agree
Great vid! I also fly an arrow and sometimes the old fuel injection IO-360 is a bit of a weasel to start, especial when 'warm' so I doubt I would have put problems starting down to a dodgy fuel pump myself, so it good to have a backup :) Also after a start issue / power down its good to re-run your checklist, a fellow pilot in the P2 seat saved me from a MOR taking off at North Weald by turning my transponder to ALT before take off (Stansted TMZ) (oh come on it was only a matter of time, this is youtube :))
I thought that there was an electrical spare fuel pump ready to cut in case the main pump falters.
There is an electrical pump, but we leave that off for starting so we know whether the mechanical one is working or not. Its mainly used for take off and landing, and switched off at other times.
I’m not a flight instructor… but if you were only on the ground for a few minutes try to start without priming…. Could be flooding your engine… The engine probably was already primed from your first flight that day…. And adding more fuel only added to the fual that was already there… I own and Fly a commander 112 A early in my flying career I ran in the same problem with my plane…
7:42 was that a master caution alert there lighting up?
It's the WARN GEAR UNSAFE light, it came on when he retracted the landing gear after takeoff.. in that case it just shows the gear is moving.
Been watching your content for a while , didnt realise you could fly . Kudos to you my man , not just a 1st class passenger but a guy who understands flight. I did notice the gauge lower mid going crazy . Was that normal? Would have freeked me. Good vid Noel
nice view of clumber
I flew in a PA 28 with a pilot called paul, but became confused when tower replied to him as Roger.
I really enjoy all your videos quite a lot. However, I miss your commercial airlines reviews. I guess the trip to India was completely exhausting.
I still release those every Sunday :)
The Piper Arrow has two fuel pumps - engine driven and electric backup; what one failed? Sounds like the engine driven one. Oh, and never, ever start the engine with the radios on; you could fry then.
Noel Philips pilot vlogs please visit Shobdon airfield again I’ll like to meet you
Hi how do put the long line arrow on Sky Demon?
Sounded like FroogleSim in the tower.
great vlog noel
Are you ppl plus instrument rated?
Yes I have PPL+IRR (restricted instrument rating meaning UK only, as well as a couple of other restrictions).
Gosh. Just look at the fuel pressure gauge jumping around. Eek!
That’s pretty standard in YT though. It always does that, and always has done.
Eeek! Don’t pump the throttle!
Yes I cringed myself watching it back. I guess I kind of went into autopilot trying to get it started. Lesson learned!
No way would I have took that plane out knowing it had a problem beforehand and you get in and the problem manifests itself again and you think "yeah, good to go". This was an engine/fuel issue not a failed ball compass you can do without. Alarm bells should of been going off in your head to get it checked out before you go. Eagerness costs not just your life but the lives of people around you. Bad decision. You are lucky, but we live and learn. As Scott Manley would say "Fly Safe". I live in Birmingham.
11:09 what indicator is there flipping around?
I think it's just a trick of the camera displaying the LCD
Always start with the avonics off
Why can't they fix the popping on the radio!
lucky you made it
look out of the window, you must complete regular scans….. too much reliance on the ipad and talking to the cameras.
Wow ok next lit ofg
NEVER start the engine with any avionics on unless you want problems
noel look @3:04 fuel pressure pulsing😎
Stalled at the landing
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