Hit a provisional short of your first tee shot, then lose your provisional next shot and hit another provisional, lose that one and pick up, stick a blob down and move on to the next hole is how I'd play it myself.
What do you do when the stakes are so far apart, and you’re ball is in the middle? This happened to me, and if we looked at one stake, the ball looked in, but from the other, it looked out. The stakes were roughly 70 yards apart. How do you determine if you’re in play in this scenario?
You cannot stand between the stakes and get a proper view. You have to stand where you can sight from one stake to the next in one glance. Then you can line up the stakes and get a good idea where the "line" is connecting the two stakes. If you are too far away to see the ball well, have someone hover a golf glub shaft directly above the ball to help the sighting. Still, at that distance, it might be very difficult to see down to that last inch, so you just do the best you can.
When I first joined a golf club I had to play a round with the handicap Secretary. He asked me loads of questions as we went round, one of which was “when is a ball out of bounds?” Well I came up with answers like the ball is outside the boundary of the course, in an area marked as out of bounds etc. after every answer he’d tell me no, then asked the question again. I eventually gave up and asked him to explain. “A ball is out of bounds” he said, “when the whole of the ball is out of bounds.” 🙄
You say on the line surely that is wrong ? Out of bounds is defined as the course side of the line not the line itself - meaning the ball can be on a white line behind the course side edge and this will be OOB even though it is still on the white line so this definition is surely wrong!
If there is a painted line as well as stakes, the line takes priority and the stakes are just there as "indicators". There is a difference between a painted "line" which has a width (maybe one or two inches) and the OOB "line" which is infinitesimally thin. For a painted OBB line, the only part that matters is the theoretical "edge" of the line on the golf course side of the painted line. To be OOB, the ball must be entirely beyond that line edge. Therefore, a ball can be mostly lying on the painted line but with just a bit still overhanging the course side edge, making the ball still in bounds.
Hit a provisional that landed on the GIR and laughed hysterically while the other 3 in my foursome were enthusiastically searching for my original ball. They really wanted to find it!
Omg golf rules are the absolute worst lol. To much going on just draw some white lines down the out of bounds area instead of guessing and waisting by Time putting down tee pegs. Every other sport has a defined out of bounce except golf. We all know those stakes are not in a perfect line.
You do know that grass gets mowed, right? When that happens, bye bye paint. Imagine the maintenance of repainting thousands of yards of lines on a more-than-weekly basis. In an ideal world, yes, OB would have painted lines, but the reality is that it’s not feasible. Also, situations like these are quite rare, so you also have to factor in return on investment-that’s a lot of time and money spent for an occasional player to save a few seconds of time.
Hit a provisional short of your first tee shot, then lose your provisional next shot and hit another provisional, lose that one and pick up, stick a blob down and move on to the next hole is how I'd play it myself.
Excellent videos.
Brilliant Hannah another fantastic rules video.
Bag looks fantastic 👍
Great golf bag 🙌🏻
Very clear 👍🏻
Glad you think so!
What do you do when the stakes are so far apart, and you’re ball is in the middle? This happened to me, and if we looked at one stake, the ball looked in, but from the other, it looked out. The stakes were roughly 70 yards apart. How do you determine if you’re in play in this scenario?
You cannot stand between the stakes and get a proper view. You have to stand where you can sight from one stake to the next in one glance. Then you can line up the stakes and get a good idea where the "line" is connecting the two stakes. If you are too far away to see the ball well, have someone hover a golf glub shaft directly above the ball to help the sighting. Still, at that distance, it might be very difficult to see down to that last inch, so you just do the best you can.
When I first joined a golf club I had to play a round with the handicap Secretary. He asked me loads of questions as we went round, one of which was “when is a ball out of bounds?” Well I came up with answers like the ball is outside the boundary of the course, in an area marked as out of bounds etc. after every answer he’d tell me no, then asked the question again. I eventually gave up and asked him to explain. “A ball is out of bounds” he said, “when the whole of the ball is out of bounds.” 🙄
Unfortunately the game is full of people like your handicap secretary.
Look at diagram 18.2a in rules
Oh my!!!! How do you carry that huge bag for a full round???? That bag would completely destroy me 😀
Trolley 😂
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You say on the line surely that is wrong ? Out of bounds is defined as the course side of the line not the line itself - meaning the ball can be on a white line behind the course side edge and this will be OOB even though it is still on the white line so this definition is surely wrong!
Not quite; the ball can be “on the line” but as long as any part of the ball remains inside the course-side boundary it remains in play.
If there is a painted line as well as stakes, the line takes priority and the stakes are just there as "indicators". There is a difference between a painted "line" which has a width (maybe one or two inches) and the OOB "line" which is infinitesimally thin. For a painted OBB line, the only part that matters is the theoretical "edge" of the line on the golf course side of the painted line. To be OOB, the ball must be entirely beyond that line edge. Therefore, a ball can be mostly lying on the painted line but with just a bit still overhanging the course side edge, making the ball still in bounds.
Hit a provisional that landed on the GIR and laughed hysterically while the other 3 in my foursome were enthusiastically searching for my original ball. They really wanted to find it!
Omg golf rules are the absolute worst lol. To much going on just draw some white lines down the out of bounds area instead of guessing and waisting by Time putting down tee pegs. Every other sport has a defined out of bounce except golf. We all know those stakes are not in a perfect line.
You do know that grass gets mowed, right? When that happens, bye bye paint. Imagine the maintenance of repainting thousands of yards of lines on a more-than-weekly basis. In an ideal world, yes, OB would have painted lines, but the reality is that it’s not feasible. Also, situations like these are quite rare, so you also have to factor in return on investment-that’s a lot of time and money spent for an occasional player to save a few seconds of time.
The stakes are in a perfect line since a line is defined by two points, and the points are two consecutive stakes.
Thanks - shared this with my Seniors colleagues as there’s been some debate over recent weeks about OB 🏌🏻♂️