Idk why you guys keep saying that, if you seen the episode where Jiren went into mediation he's coated himself in a force field. It seems to be shaped like a sphere so he's just sitting on his own energy shield.
Thing is Goku was only the stongest character only one time in the series, when he was super sayian against Frieza, Then Vegeta was stronger, then Cell was stronger, then Gohan became super sayian 2. Gokus super sayian 3 was out classed by Buu and Gohans Mystic form. Then came Beerus who made all super sayian forms completely useless. Then we have Frieza who trains for 4 months achieves a level superior to super sayian blue. Then we have Hit, Goku black, Zamasu. All of the other Gods of destruction , Angels, Grand Priest, Zeno, most recently Kale, Jiren and a fused Kale and Caulifa into Kefla. It took Goku attaining Ultra Instinct to once again be considered the 2nd stongest mortal character behind Jiren. Gokus been the strongest in the universe for 5 minutes.
There's no issue with somebody being stronger but not a gray blob that got stronger than all the gods in existence cuz he lost his family cuz in that case vegeta should be wrecking zeno by now
My prediction on how the Tournament of Power will end, Goku will lose against Jiren, but he will hold him off until the last minute and the Universe 7 will be the one with the most fighters in the arena
Ace Bankz that’s my prediction to bro. Been saying it on so many of these dragon ball youtubers hoping they would discuss it as it makes the most sense to happen!!
Goku and Jiren's fight shatters the arena and everyone falls out except for Piccolo who is standing on the only peice that didn't break. Piccolo: "yaaaaa, bet you didn't expect that."
Why is jiren a pride trooper? I doubt there are any enemies strong enough that require his service in their universe Its like he is a weapon that was created in case there is a big threat, Like an atomic bomb.
* I doubt there are any enemies strong enough that require his service in their universe* This was my exact thought when his strenght was shown to be great as a god of destruction. Why the fuck is he a power trooper? When Toppa mentioned Jiren was stronger, he didn't say he was 500x times stronger.
What if Jiren isn't even from a planet. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Jk but that would be crazy though. If he was just born in the Universe but not on any planet or anything.
+KillaKami Its a genjustu amplified by infinity and Jiren broke through that.Some people (VERY VERY FEW) still say madara can beat anyone in db as a whole for some reason -.-
I agree. Toppo stated that Jiren has a wish and that alone makes me very curious. I'm really interested to see what someone as powerful as Jiren would want to wish for.
Maybe, but right now I just seem him as a boring “flat” looking character who is just super strong, nothing else. I feel like he isen’t going to be the main “villain” in this ark.
i think that it could go one of two ways. one: jiren does end up carrying his universe to victory, and his wish gets revealed. two: goku (or possible someone else) ends up defeating him (or coming close), and through the dialogue of him or another character, his wish gets revealed.
Kale God Lord some of the gods didn't even care when they heard Goku got UI.. Like Quitela and Geene. Not sure whether it's Arack or Iwne , I forgot the name, but the wolf god with three tails, who commented on the UI. But not all gods are intimidated by Goku gettingit
Plus Top said "Based on combat skill alone...Jiren is stronger than Belmond" Which means battle skill alone is enough to take down a hakaishin who can literally cover themselves with destruction energy etc cos we don't knw what those God's of destruction are truly capable of
Bro Jiren was awesome! He had an awesome back story, SIMILAR to Vegeta's. I liked Jiren, obviously we all knew he wouldn't win, but he's stronger than some Gods of Destruction, how cool is that! He forced arc-enemies Frieza and Goku to work together to win, and absolutely WRECKED a universe 6 assassin! Such an awesome character man, loved watching his cocky attitude turn into an ambitious one.
I really like your videos and your content. I'm 44 years old, been a fan since 1996. I give you big props, you know what you're talking about. Keep it up.
Jiren won't be defeated in the ToP, his universe will lose but he won't personally be beaten. They're gonna save that match-up for a later arc like they did with Hit and Goku finishing their fight.
If I had to say, how Jiren beat Hit's time skip: I don't think that Hit' s time skip freezes time but more as repeating the same event over and over again causing the illusion of time stopping. (Ex. just repeating the same second over and over again) As we saw earlier Jiren is as fast, if not faster than Goku with ultra instinct (for the time being). Maybe Jiren moves so fast that he can repeat and or go though that same second, faster than Hit's time skip can keep up with. Thus breaking the time skip.
Jiren is very different from broly While broly is like a primitive beast with no control over what he does Jiren is a complete genius and he knows about his special powers and how to use them
Nate C the Comic G that's fine you're allowed to like them 😊 I liked them as a concept but them getting so much screen time over characters such as kabba or vegeta is just off. Also the whole gain ssj then ssj2 in a matter of days is just wrong. Power definitely would make it easier to gain a transformation but there's too much asspulling done to get them relevant. If they were given more background and had practiced ssj more before the tournament then sure I'd get it. Currently it's purely just asspulling for fan hype
I don't mind the asspulling for the saiyan girls that much. Or rather its that I've become immune to caring about the weird powerscaling and asspulls of DBS so far. The fight with Goku has been one of the more interesting fights of the arc at least. Its not ideal that they had to give them underserved power ups to achieve that, but that DBS for you. :/
With the way they're representing the storm troopaahs, Jiren to me looks like a representation of superman. LOL The all powerful being. I also think that when talking about Gods of destructions we shouldn't mention their destruction powers as a measure of their power. I think their "destruction power" is something else entirely from their own power and that's what makes them gods of destruction. I think of it as a special separate power granted to them by zeno to enable them to destroy without even trying (such as with a sneeze for beerus or just on a whim...). If the gods of destruction had similar power to their "destruction powers" I don't think Jiren would be giving them the surprised/worried/scared emotions they've been showing since he started fighting goku. It would mean nothing to them since they can just sneeze or wish it and destroy anything. So we can be sure Goku (blue) has reached God of destruction power level same as Toppo and Vegeta (blue) but in terms of being able to destroy like a god can that's a power they don't have access to and that's the distinguishing factor. I think that's why Whis said "even a god can't beat..." as in "fighting ability/strength/power"...but a god may destroy him if they wish to do so with their powers of "destruction". And I'm not talking about the destruction ball freeza toyed with as that would be far less effective on Jiren...I mean the technique beerus used on Zamasu.
Brooo make your videos longer. Everytime I get to the end, I get mad at you for not making it longer hahaha. There's just soo much great content in your videos.
I like jiren I like how he is one of if not the ONLY person who appeared to not care about fighting goku That is actually very interesting I really hope they dont waste his potential and not give some backstory and some explanation to his strength They hyped this guy up TOO much for that
He didn't want to fight until until Bermoud told him to do so, although right now Jiren might want to fight Goku since he attained Ultra Instinct again and might become a threat.Correct me if I'm wrong.
SaltyPancakes No, you're correct as far as we know Jiren seemed uninterested before after and during his fight with goku He did mention saiyans were interesting implying he may actually be invested in fighting goku but there's only hints no clear indication so far
BMJWmusic Gaming & Entertainment Its all good And honestly ive done that before too xD Truth be toldAfter recent info and some clues Your statement might have some sort of weight to it considering jiren said saiyans were interesting But as far as I know he didn't seem too invested yet
Geekdom! I love you video’s brother! I CANT WAIT TILL WE GET TO SEE JIREN’s POWER AGAIN in the next chapter, he is my favorite character by far, his abilities are amazing. 🔥🔥🔥🔥 i hope the next manga gets really good art designing!
Geekdom... it went down as follows: Hit tried to use genjutsu on jiren. Jiren snapped out of it. Jiren's power is enormous, I think that ultra instinct goku full power&controlled ability can stop him. And congratulations on your channel's growth 😊 nearly 400 subs😊
Geekdom101 - (Love your videos by the way, best DBS youtuber in my opinion) A better explanation of what Hit did to Jiren is; (I apologies for the length but it is in-depth) Hit's ability to skip time, quite literally, takes time and stores it in his own dimension where he can hide, leaving a phantom. This means that he's literally taking time out of the space-time continuum,. Think of it like this, if you think of all of time, past present and future being a string. Every point of this string is already there, but space, being interwoven to time, is moving across it, without this string, one couldn't move across the string, being stuck at one point of the string and being unable to move. What Hit is doing, is taking a section of this string and cutting it out and sticking it in his pocket for his own use, reconnecting the severed sections of the string at both ends. Hit confined this to Jiren alone, meaning Jiren should not be able to move throughout space, since there's no time, he should be completely frozen. However, Jiren was still able to move, albiet with a great struggle, so if Jiren can move when there's literally no time for his spacial 3D body to move across, then his power must be beyond time itself, making him a 4th Dimensional being. Any dimensional tier, is infinitely above that of the previous, meaning that no matter how strong a 3rd Dimensional being get's they will never be as strong as that particular being, unless they can Plato to the same dimensional tier as well. 4th Dimensional is considered to be the level of Gods, all the Hakaishin, Angels, Grand Priest, Zen-Oh sama, are all 4th Dimensional already, seen during BOG arc, Beerus and Goku were going to destroy the entire U7 Macroverse (Mortal, Other World, Kai realms make up a universe each, with the Kai realm being smaller than a complete universe, the Macroverse being bare minimum 2-3 universes in size). This means Goku and Beerus, two individuals, were exerting equal force, matching the 2-3 universes, meaning Goku was at least Universal and beerus was heavily suppressed. To destroy all of space in it's entirety, as the Elder Kai was stating would happen, would subsequently destroy all of time, as they are interwoven, and destroying time is considered to be a 4th Dimensional feet. Of course there are levels of power within a dimensional tier, and it is believed that Zen-Oh is a fourth dimensional being with 5th dimensional power, as to destroy an entire timeLINE, is to go completely beyond time and to the next level. The reason Zen-Oh is not a 5h dimensional BEING, but has 5th Power, is because to be 5th dimensional is to above time to a complete degree, meaning if you were to go to another point in time, or another timeline, there would be no version of yourself, because time has no affect whatsoever on you, but of course there's a second Zen-Oh. I praise whoever read this far and thank you for your time. I hope this gave you better insight, and I'm usually here to answer anything else :D
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I wonder if Jiren is actually a really kind person. Like he doesn’t eliminate everyone because he wants everyone to have as much of a chance as possible. Like he actually cares very much about the other universal fighters even though he has never met them.
I still don't think Jiren has ultra instinct. There's zero evidence to back that claim up besides having the speed to keep up with it. None of the onlookers mentioned anything besides his power, whis didn't say anything, and if he just decided not to say anything then that's kinda bad writing. This is the only character we've seen besides angels that is guaranteed stronger than at least some gods and I think it's too early to say ultra instinct is the only way to be that strong.
Zybatsu Agreed, When Goku went UI all the Gods were talking about it, yet none said anything about Jiren in that regard. Jiren power is probably so great that he’s simply able to keep up with it, I mean after all he broke through a time prison.
Great point....and if i may add on, i agree with UI not being the only way to reach the gods for the simple point that they themselves are super strong yet show no signs of UI and if they did then it would foreshadow many warriors to ultimately and miraculously attain UI and that would just take away the prestige that is UI.
From all the DBS channels I like this one the most. You have so much content constantly being uploaded I sincerely appreciate your dedication too your channel. Good job. I just highly disagree with your Star wars comments.
They need to have filler episodes solely dedicated to Jiren and his backstory. He’s crazy strong and insane to watch fight but that can only keep me excited for so long. I want to know where he came from, why he’s so strong,what he’s fighting for, did anyone beat him before he obtained this power etc
Hit has a physical ability with meta physical effects. Even though Hit’s ability is extra dimensional in nature his energy or ki is 3rd dimensional. Best example of this would be Goku breaking Hits time skip in the episode where he comes to assassinate Goku. So, as impressive as Jiren is. Goku first demonstrated the weakness or limitation to Hits abilities. Showing that raw power can break his techniques because they are physical in nature. With that, Hit used a much more advanced move on Jiren, Jiren being the beast he is was able to use raw power and over come Hits execution of the technique. Showing that Hit is still interacting 3 dimensionally.
Technically yes and no as Hit is still manipulating time, so his attacks are still 4th dimensional well mostly Hit's ultimate attack he used on Jiren as Hit's Tokitobashi is just a dimensional shift in time which as seen with Goku can be shattered by attacks 4th dimensional or higher.
me: hey super shenron I wish I have a godly scouter super shenron: tahw? me: yeh repus shenron I shiw I evah a yldog retuocs super shenron: I tonnoc tnarg rouy shiw me: nooooooooooooooooo! I can't believe I have to speak the language of gods to do this wish why?
Been in several Jiren power scale debates lately. This is a list of feats to which I and several others frequently refer. Jiren Feats: Jiren Feats: Speed blitzed Goku prior to powering up. Reacted without motion to god-ki-enhanced dynamic blocks in order to predict their motions. Shook infinite 3D nothingness by walking. This is much greater than shaking infinite 3D space, which is in turn much greater than shaking and even destroying a universe. His initial power-up alone shakes Beerus. Took full power kick from "Saiyan Beyond God" + tons of training + SS2 to the head, and dozens of blows afterward, without moving. Blocked SSG full power punches with one finger. Took a full power kick to the face from SSB Kaioken Goku (possibly x 20), and barely reacted, and hardly moved. Speed blitzed SSB KK x 20 Goku to a degree where he was able to hit him multiple times in such a small time period that hardly anyone even saw it. Without using any hands, successfully deflected and condensed a Spirit Bomb which was in itself far stronger than SSB KK 20 Goku and was additionally being pushed by SSB KK 20 Goku's power. This puts him potentially dozens of times stronger than maxed out KK Goku. Vermod was even worried the Spirit Bomb would be enough to give Jiren a run for his money, AFTER heavily implying he had been defeated in combat by Jiren. To me, this is explicit confirmation that the Spirit Bomb + Base Goku is a power relative to if not greater than Vermod. Stood in place and took the full force of the Spirit Bomb explosion while several extremely powerful warriors were tossed wildly across the arena by it. Kept on par with a character who had the symptoms of Ultra Instinct, and eventually powered up to a point where he was able to block a full power punch from said character without moving, with one hand. Calls UI Goku "interesting" instead of strong. Completely nullifies a heavily improved Time Skip, and beats Hit's pure progress ability. Takes a full power punch to the heart from Hit, and is undamaged, and even heals from the attack. Is bound in a complete Time Stop (different than a Time Skip, MUCH more deadly too), and is able to walk. While STILL being frozen in time, Jiren is able to affect the non-Time-Stopped world with just his eyes, holding a full power ki blast from Hit in place. While yet STILL frozen in time, Jiren grabs the ki blast a crushes it with one hand. Only THEN does he break free from being stopped in time. (Oh yea, and HE BROKE FREE FROM BEING STOPPED IN TIME). Is able to meditate while floating in an arena where flying is disabled by the Grand Priest himself, AND with a barrier surrounding him that is likely at least as strong as his strongest opponent so far in the tournament, excluding possibly UI Goku. Putting out that much power while meditating in that fashion is honestly probably his best feat so far, possibly excluding his best feats against Hit.
I really want to like Jiren but after the battle with Goku & the battle with Hit , I'm not really that hype on him anymore . He's great , amazing power which makes for great fights but I can't get behind this guy as a "villain" or a rival , until we get more from him . Banking on UI hype isn't going to be enough for this .
Viewing him as a villian doesnt have to be necessary, but for the rival I see your point. Because you have to remember Jiren is a good guy for what we know right now.
LegendaryZTV I feel you. Jiren's character is so bland it's hard to get involved in the story. At least Ribrianne and Kafla are so obnoxious that you want them to get beaten for good.
I interpreted his "floating" as an extension of that shield he uses to deflect "weak" attacks that toppo referred to when Jiren was jumped after he began meditation. If it can repel strong ki attacks it can probably repel the ground. Moreover he's floating over that piece of rubble which makes me think he's doing an exercise for controlling his field.
Way the series has been going, both kale and caulifla will be one shotting gods and angels by the end of the tournament. Anybody else tired of them being pushed so hard???
Jim Peterson I hope because they are growing fast they will reach their limits too fast thus taking much longer than goku and vegeta to pass their own limits
Jiren is someone who devotes everything to justice. He's not swayed by selfish reasons. It's even against his principles to kill someone, even if they're evil. But even so, there's one thing... There'll be a wish he wants fulfilled, even if it means throwing away those principles.
Jiren wasn’t really trying when he fought Goku. Ultra Instinct is about 50% of Jiren’s full power. Goku shouldn’t be able to defeat him. The only way Jiren should be “defeated” is by fusion. Anyone except Vegito or Gokhan shouldn’t be able to beat him (including Ultra Instinct Goku).
I took it as: Hit skips through as himself. He puts himself in a bubble that allows him move through time. So when he put Jiren in that bubble and kept him there. I think it makes sense because prior we saw him extending the length of his time skip. So the only part to learn would be to re-position the bubble that does the time skip and keep him there for the time skip time. At least that is my interpretation on it.
It has been said that “time vacuum” is actually using time jump on Jiren constantly. It means that from a Jiren's perspective it looked like when hit is in the alternate dimension. He was able to move in the dimension, but his body stood still in the real world. What Jiren did was not breaking or reversing the time but rather leaving the dimension for a short period. Later he did it repetitively so fast, that through the stroboscopic effect it looked like he moved.
If you go back to beginning of the fight between Jiren and Goku, he let's out his energy that causes the World of Void to shake. Beerus asks "is this the energy from one person?". Zen-Oh or rather both of them don't seem phased at all. Everybody else is being forced backwards and they both move forwards like he wasn't doing anything but you can see his energy affecting the area where they sit.
Geekdom101 my prediction with Jiren, I believe Jiren will not be defeated. But he will lose the tournament. He’s going to be preoccupied fighting Goku until the very last second thus being a draw. Universe 7 wins and wish for the universes that lost to be brought back, but the universe is gonna merge together for the simple fact it make things easier on Zeno, by the universe merging together the God of destruction and the angles would be like but they’re not replacing they’ll be like north kai, south kai east kai etc, but on a more larger scale for example, you got your associates( god of the planet dendae), then you got department managers(north kai etc),support mangers( grand kai),assistant mangers (supreme kai), store mangers ( god of destruction)district mangers( angels), quadrant( new elected god of destruction/angel),regional (grand priest) then sector (Zenos) that’s the reason why there are two zenos This make more sense for Vegeta being able to visit plant salada, and for another possible tournament involving the other universe that didn’t participate since Zeno think it’s awesome! What’s your thoughts!?
Still. Nobody is commenting on the fact that Goku was completely void of energy like 5 minutes ago (Frieza gave him some), and now he has gone through every transformation (most of which DRAIN energy/stamina) *WHILE* simultaneously fighting Kafla who is constantly powering up herself. I mean come on guys. Lets not just criticize the bad writing that supports your dislike for a character/topic. Although Goku is a Saiyan prodigy, it makes absolutely 0 fucking sense that he is gaining energy/stamina WHILE fighting and draining it even more...All within a matter of approximately 5 mins? Now THAT is shitty writing
Long Goal Horseman Lol I cannot dispute that...However, that 5 min fight lasted 5 episodes. Goku's pulling shit out of his ass (no pun intended) once every 30 seconds in this arc apparently
KingHash Yes he is. Goku is a low class saiyan but he's the strongest saiyan probably in history... He was supposed to be about Raditz level during the Saiyan saga (Raditz is also a low class saiyan). So for Goku to go from that to beyond a god? Yeah nothing less than a prodigy.
Don't know if I might be right, but on the concept of Jiren breaking through the time vacuum out of raw power. I think something similar was done by Super Buu when Gotenks and Piccolo sealed him in the time chamber. Buu breaks through portal out of anger out of the room. ✌🏼
“In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.” “In his days may the righteous flourish, and peace abound, till the moon be no more!” “And he said, 'O man greatly loved, fear not, peace be with you; be strong and of good courage.
Ultra instinct is suppose to be a technique so maybe goku can learn to stack ssj forms on it and make them relevant again. If kefla goes ssj3 will it make a difference to ultra instinct goku?
SIX PATHS TonTon Ultra Instinct is also a transformation in itself. The writers even called it Goku's new form and Roshi also called it a transformation.
There should be a mini spin off of Jiren The Gray because he's a interesting character and I believe some people want to know his past and how he got this far
I have one theory.. I think JIREN is not from universe 11. He may b the mortal form those six universe which was destroyed by zeno.. Somehow grand priest realized tht some mortal from those universe can be much stronger than their gods.. Thts why grand priest requested zeno sama to destroy those universes.. May be jiren from no 1 ranked universe tht time.. Somehow he managed to get out from his universe at the time of destroy.. And he landed to universe 11.. Thts why i think angel of universe 11 dont knw much abt jiren.. If u guyz noticed in episode 109/10 where toppo said jiren to earn DRAGON BALLS to get fulfill his wish.. I think he will wish for his UNIVERSE to get back..... ..
NovaGamer300 i love ur comment bro..but i think its only mystery of jiren after going through manga #30 i m more sure of it.. In manga jiren believes in peace he want to make peace everywhere.. He is strong but dont wanna fight. May be he was witness of such fight which causes his universe destruction.. And after seeing his ability i m sure he has managed somehow to escaped universe before the explosion. Its only my theory..
He's so strong that he can float in the air while meditating even though it shouldn't be possible in the tournament of power.
DBZ Macky good point
DBZ Macky damn didn’t even think about that lol
His shield is letting him float :P
Idk why you guys keep saying that, if you seen the episode where Jiren went into mediation he's coated himself in a force field. It seems to be shaped like a sphere so he's just sitting on his own energy shield.
DBZ Macky Jiren is not flying!!
He is using telekinesis like frieza did in the namek saga.
Stop complaining about Jiren.. what? Did y'all really think Goku would be the strongest in all 12 Universes? How boring and unlikely would that be...
chuyelregio5 thank you. Finally someone who shares my views.
Nelson Njoroge exactly
Thing is Goku was only the stongest character only one time in the series, when he was super sayian against Frieza, Then Vegeta was stronger, then Cell was stronger, then Gohan became super sayian 2. Gokus super sayian 3 was out classed by Buu and Gohans Mystic form. Then came Beerus who made all super sayian forms completely useless. Then we have Frieza who trains for 4 months achieves a level superior to super sayian blue. Then we have Hit, Goku black, Zamasu. All of the other Gods of destruction , Angels, Grand Priest, Zeno, most recently Kale, Jiren and a fused Kale and Caulifa into Kefla. It took Goku attaining Ultra Instinct to once again be considered the 2nd stongest mortal character behind Jiren. Gokus been the strongest in the universe for 5 minutes.
There's no issue with somebody being stronger but not a gray blob that got stronger than all the gods in existence cuz he lost his family cuz in that case vegeta should be wrecking zeno by now
@@ugregoard2024 Jiren trained and got stronger probably alot quicker than geets.
*I honestly think Jiren is ripping a continuous god ki fart, thus propelling him three feet above ground for the past five episodes.*
Adrien Rodriguez which creates new worlds
Adrien Rodriguez That made me laugh for 3 minutes xD
"Jiren I've come to bargain"
Jiren breaks time then Dr. Strange runs xD
lol
Due to recent events in the news i wonder if kale and caulifla will be coming out 20 years later saying that champa sexually harrassed them
AfroThunder GFuz I wouldn't blame him
Champa leaves no witnesses >:D
Fat Beerus only rapes food.
Surprised they didn’t blame Roshi. Universe 6 doesn’t have their own master Roshi
Jiren floating was so impressive that even the Zenos acknowledged it with an "Oooooooooooh"!
Jiren unleashes his AWESOME power to overwhelm Goku Black...
Goku Black claps while saying: "SUBARASHI"!!
George Ossi goku black will clap.....those ass cheeks when jiren treats him like a tuesday stripper
Long Goal Horseman The soul might be Zamasu but that ass u r talking about is Of Goku
Samyam Lamsal Exactly, people forget how much hax and zenkais Black could do, except if Jiren blew him up or something lol
What if jiren gets defeated and he says “I’m the weakest of my race”
🤯🤯🤯
I'm blown away.......... 😵
Yh he’s gonna pull a radids on us
LMFAOO that’ll be funny asf 😂
Jesus christ
My prediction on how the Tournament of Power will end, Goku will lose against Jiren, but he will hold him off until the last minute and the Universe 7 will be the one with the most fighters in the arena
Ace Bankz that’s my prediction to bro. Been saying it on so many of these dragon ball youtubers hoping they would discuss it as it makes the most sense to happen!!
It would make sense if it happen this way
Their fight is going to start in the next few weeks.... theyre not gunna fight for the next 35 episodes lol
Word that seems like the most plausible one
Ace Bankz then he goes back to U7 after the tournanent devasted the he never beat Jiren and trains insanely
Goku and Jiren's fight shatters the arena and everyone falls out except for Piccolo who is standing on the only peice that didn't break. Piccolo: "yaaaaa, bet you didn't expect that."
Chuck tim he is gonna "dodge" the explosion
Chuck tim LOL!!!
ultra instinct Piccolo lol.
Jiren got nothin in Chuck Norris
Psycho Nightmare pause 😂
Jiren is just space Chuck Noris.
Jiren is too strong a character to be rushed through the way they did. I truly hope we see more of him in the future
Rushed through? Huh?
Why is jiren a pride trooper? I doubt there are any enemies strong enough that require his service in their universe Its like he is a weapon that was created in case there is a big threat, Like an atomic bomb.
Everett Martell Maybe there is or used to be an enemy with huge power in his universe
Farmer with a shotgun was the big threat to Jiren he beat him and sent him to U7 to be killed by Raditz
Maybe he wasn't always as strong as he is now and he joined the Pride Troopers long ago.
Maybe be created the Pride Troopers
* I doubt there are any enemies strong enough that require his service in their universe*
This was my exact thought when his strenght was shown to be great as a god of destruction. Why the fuck is he a power trooper?
When Toppa mentioned Jiren was stronger, he didn't say he was 500x times stronger.
What if Jerens home planet has zero gravity naturally? Every warrior "experiences the effects of gravity as if they were on their home planet."
maybe, but at the same time that does not really make sense
What if Jiren isn't even from a planet. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Jk but that would be crazy though. If he was just born in the Universe but not on any planet or anything.
But if it has no gravity then he wouldn't be able to stand
@@Darkso20 he can force himself down, this is dragon ball super after all
Jirens full power might break my laptop screen and cause category 5 wind currents in my room.
If you think Jiren is strong, imagine the full Power of the Daishinkan!
Joshua Brown yeah piccolo is stronger than the grand priest.
Thegrand priest is stronger
Just say god creation or destruction
Mugiwara No Luffy he is not an angel that’s the thing.
Jiovanni Sookhai bro how is he not a angel the angels are legit his children
Damn hit trapped jiren in a genjutsu
i was looking for a naruto..........that's my BOYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But he released the jutsu
KillaKami jiren is the itachi of dbs
And tried to rasengan him
+KillaKami Its a genjustu amplified by infinity and Jiren broke through that.Some people (VERY VERY FEW) still say madara can beat anyone in db as a whole for some reason -.-
Jiren can create dimensions. Jiren can resist and even reverse the greatest strength of gravity itself.
Jiren didn’t power up he only went....... HUAAAAAAAAA.....
Jiren ULTRA INSTINCT?? 😂😂 We made a crazy Dragon Ball Super PARODY of this!
Jiren is ultra instinct and he mastered it
Goku stated that even Vegito would lose to Jiren
The fact that Jiren wants the Super Dragon Balls can lead to his story and make him less boring
I agree. Toppo stated that Jiren has a wish and that alone makes me very curious. I'm really interested to see what someone as powerful as Jiren would want to wish for.
Well we already know a few characters wishes. Maybe it is a forshadow that Jiren will win since no one knows.
Maybe, but right now I just seem him as a boring “flat” looking character who is just super strong, nothing else. I feel like he isen’t going to be the main “villain” in this ark.
he doesnt want the dragon balls, he wants to save his universe
i think that it could go one of two ways. one: jiren does end up carrying his universe to victory, and his wish gets revealed. two: goku (or possible someone else) ends up defeating him (or coming close), and through the dialogue of him or another character, his wish gets revealed.
HIT trapped Jiren in Groundhog Day
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Boi im on that ass lol
Keep in mind 3 of the gods shown reacting were completely unimpressed by Jiren, so I'm assuming he's only stronger than some of them.
Soon Lads solid point
Soon Lads no goku is the problem lol goku scared jiren Goku is learning stuff that takes god's of destruction a while to learn
Kale God Lord some of the gods didn't even care when they heard Goku got UI.. Like Quitela and Geene. Not sure whether it's Arack or Iwne , I forgot the name, but the wolf god with three tails, who commented on the UI. But not all gods are intimidated by Goku gettingit
Whis said he heard rumors about a mortal that suppressed his own destroyer, his not all
Plus Top said "Based on combat skill alone...Jiren is stronger than Belmond"
Which means battle skill alone is enough to take down a hakaishin who can literally cover themselves with destruction energy etc cos we don't knw what those God's of destruction are truly capable of
great video Geekdom 101! Your best one by far!
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Bro Jiren was awesome! He had an awesome back story, SIMILAR to Vegeta's. I liked Jiren, obviously we all knew he wouldn't win, but he's stronger than some Gods of Destruction, how cool is that! He forced arc-enemies Frieza and Goku to work together to win, and absolutely WRECKED a universe 6 assassin! Such an awesome character man, loved watching his cocky attitude turn into an ambitious one.
I think *Ultra INSTINCT shaggy* is Gonna *TAKE CARE* of jiren
Best Ultra Instinct meme ever
breh that overkill
I feel like Shaggy can destroy Jiren in his base form tbh
Bro, Yamcha is just waiting for the right time.
Relax. Haha.
Gohan Blanco is stronger
Dude the reason why I don't use my full power is because I might destroy another universe.
Jiren is a very interesting character!
AWESOME VID AS ALWAYS GEEKDOM
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I really like your videos and your content. I'm 44 years old, been a fan since 1996. I give you big props, you know what you're talking about. Keep it up.
Jiren won't be defeated in the ToP, his universe will lose but he won't personally be beaten. They're gonna save that match-up for a later arc like they did with Hit and Goku finishing their fight.
My theory, Jiren's power is so great that he HAS to meditate in order to keep it under control.
If I had to say, how Jiren beat Hit's time skip: I don't think that Hit' s time skip freezes time but more as repeating the same event over and over again causing the illusion of time stopping. (Ex. just repeating the same second over and over again) As we saw earlier Jiren is as fast, if not faster than Goku with ultra instinct (for the time being). Maybe Jiren moves so fast that he can repeat and or go though that same second, faster than Hit's time skip can keep up with. Thus breaking the time skip.
Jiren is very different from broly
While broly is like a primitive beast with no control over what he does
Jiren is a complete genius and he knows about his special powers and how to use them
Last time I was this early people still liked caulifla and kale
Kezzer I still like them🙁
Nate C the Comic G that's fine you're allowed to like them 😊 I liked them as a concept but them getting so much screen time over characters such as kabba or vegeta is just off. Also the whole gain ssj then ssj2 in a matter of days is just wrong. Power definitely would make it easier to gain a transformation but there's too much asspulling done to get them relevant. If they were given more background and had practiced ssj more before the tournament then sure I'd get it. Currently it's purely just asspulling for fan hype
I don't mind the asspulling for the saiyan girls that much. Or rather its that I've become immune to caring about the weird powerscaling and asspulls of DBS so far. The fight with Goku has been one of the more interesting fights of the arc at least. Its not ideal that they had to give them underserved power ups to achieve that, but that DBS for you. :/
hey geekdom101 thanks for the awesome vids bro and ignore all the haters
Ultra instinct shaggy is enough to beat jiren
I think you mean base form shaggy is enough, I mean in his base form he can easily destroy Zeno
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everyone is going UI now its a meme now lol
real_g 30 nah jimmy firecracker got this
I didn't know you did a colab vid with Rob! My 2 fav fandom youtubers together? Sorry, but I'll have to come back to this vid later. lmao
With the way they're representing the storm troopaahs, Jiren to me looks like a representation of superman. LOL The all powerful being.
I also think that when talking about Gods of destructions we shouldn't mention their destruction powers as a measure of their power. I think their "destruction power" is something else entirely from their own power and that's what makes them gods of destruction. I think of it as a special separate power granted to them by zeno to enable them to destroy without even trying (such as with a sneeze for beerus or just on a whim...).
If the gods of destruction had similar power to their "destruction powers" I don't think Jiren would be giving them the surprised/worried/scared emotions they've been showing since he started fighting goku. It would mean nothing to them since they can just sneeze or wish it and destroy anything.
So we can be sure Goku (blue) has reached God of destruction power level same as Toppo and Vegeta (blue) but in terms of being able to destroy like a god can that's a power they don't have access to and that's the distinguishing factor. I think that's why Whis said "even a god can't beat..." as in "fighting ability/strength/power"...but a god may destroy him if they wish to do so with their powers of "destruction". And I'm not talking about the destruction ball freeza toyed with as that would be far less effective on Jiren...I mean the technique beerus used on Zamasu.
All he needs is actual character to become loved.
All other universes but 11: Jiren.exe too OP plz nerf
That ability you see when Jiren is meditating is what I called Levelitation, just like
when Goku fights his enemies in the air.
SonicFan2003's mom still solos Jiren.
@Ultimate Zeno Russell jeez..
Geekdom back at it again with that 🔥
How many times has the word *"Power"* has been utter throughout the franchise over the years, Both in the series and the Fandom?
Jay Infinity At least twice
Over 9000
@@BloodBornAngel this
Brooo make your videos longer. Everytime I get to the end, I get mad at you for not making it longer hahaha. There's just soo much great content in your videos.
I like jiren
I like how he is one of if not the ONLY person who appeared to not care about fighting goku
That is actually very interesting
I really hope they dont waste his potential and not give some backstory and some explanation to his strength
They hyped this guy up TOO much for that
What do you mean? Goku is the only guy he's there to fight lol.
He didn't want to fight until until Bermoud told him to do so, although right now Jiren might want to fight Goku since he attained Ultra Instinct again and might become a threat.Correct me if I'm wrong.
SaltyPancakes
No, you're correct as far as we know
Jiren seemed uninterested before after and during his fight with goku
He did mention saiyans were interesting implying he may actually be invested in fighting goku but there's only hints no clear indication so far
Yo, it was late when i read this. i was trippin with my response
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Its all good
And honestly ive done that before too xD
Truth be toldAfter recent info and some clues
Your statement might have some sort of weight to it considering jiren said saiyans were interesting
But as far as I know he didn't seem too invested yet
Geekdom! I love you video’s brother! I CANT WAIT TILL WE GET TO SEE JIREN’s POWER AGAIN in the next chapter, he is my favorite character by far, his abilities are amazing. 🔥🔥🔥🔥 i hope the next manga gets really good art designing!
That alien is a hacker
Geekdom...
it went down as follows:
Hit tried to use genjutsu on jiren.
Jiren snapped out of it.
Jiren's power is enormous, I think that ultra instinct goku full power&controlled ability can stop him.
And congratulations on your channel's growth 😊 nearly 400 subs😊
I think jiren is stronger than Beerus.
Thutmosis7 he is
Fuck no also zeno could destroy by just saying bye in a weird squeaky voice lol
Ev¡L DoNuT to be fair zeno called literally do that to anyone
I agree
Then that means Goku and Frieza fighting together could beat Beerus
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I feel like the final showdown should be universe 7 vs jiren. Like cmon Ultra instinct Goku, Frieza, Vegeta and Gohan vs jiren would be so bad ass
Goku ui + vegeta + gohan Vs jiren and toppo would be amazing
piyush agrawal hell yeah!
That would be amazing.
Geekdom101 - (Love your videos by the way, best DBS youtuber in my opinion)
A better explanation of what Hit did to Jiren is; (I apologies for the length but it is in-depth)
Hit's ability to skip time, quite literally, takes time and stores it in his own dimension where he can hide, leaving a phantom. This means that he's literally taking time out of the space-time continuum,. Think of it like this, if you think of all of time, past present and future being a string. Every point of this string is already there, but space, being interwoven to time, is moving across it, without this string, one couldn't move across the string, being stuck at one point of the string and being unable to move. What Hit is doing, is taking a section of this string and cutting it out and sticking it in his pocket for his own use, reconnecting the severed sections of the string at both ends. Hit confined this to Jiren alone, meaning Jiren should not be able to move throughout space, since there's no time, he should be completely frozen. However, Jiren was still able to move, albiet with a great struggle, so if Jiren can move when there's literally no time for his spacial 3D body to move across, then his power must be beyond time itself, making him a 4th Dimensional being. Any dimensional tier, is infinitely above that of the previous, meaning that no matter how strong a 3rd Dimensional being get's they will never be as strong as that particular being, unless they can Plato to the same dimensional tier as well. 4th Dimensional is considered to be the level of Gods, all the Hakaishin, Angels, Grand Priest, Zen-Oh sama, are all 4th Dimensional already, seen during BOG arc, Beerus and Goku were going to destroy the entire U7 Macroverse (Mortal, Other World, Kai realms make up a universe each, with the Kai realm being smaller than a complete universe, the Macroverse being bare minimum 2-3 universes in size). This means Goku and Beerus, two individuals, were exerting equal force, matching the 2-3 universes, meaning Goku was at least Universal and beerus was heavily suppressed. To destroy all of space in it's entirety, as the Elder Kai was stating would happen, would subsequently destroy all of time, as they are interwoven, and destroying time is considered to be a 4th Dimensional feet. Of course there are levels of power within a dimensional tier, and it is believed that Zen-Oh is a fourth dimensional being with 5th dimensional power, as to destroy an entire timeLINE, is to go completely beyond time and to the next level. The reason Zen-Oh is not a 5h dimensional BEING, but has 5th Power, is because to be 5th dimensional is to above time to a complete degree, meaning if you were to go to another point in time, or another timeline, there would be no version of yourself, because time has no affect whatsoever on you, but of course there's a second Zen-Oh. I praise whoever read this far and thank you for your time. I hope this gave you better insight, and I'm usually here to answer anything else :D
Is it just me or does anyone else have this problem? I subscribed and clicked the bell icon to turn on notifications but I never seems to get it? It works sometimes for some channels. Does it have something to do with UA-cam or is it just me?
I have that problem too
As an episode of Samurai Jack puts it:
“You can fly?!”
“No, jump good!”
For godsake time doesn't even matter to him.
I wonder if Jiren is actually a really kind person. Like he doesn’t eliminate everyone because he wants everyone to have as much of a chance as possible. Like he actually cares very much about the other universal fighters even though he has never met them.
I still don't think Jiren has ultra instinct. There's zero evidence to back that claim up besides having the speed to keep up with it. None of the onlookers mentioned anything besides his power, whis didn't say anything, and if he just decided not to say anything then that's kinda bad writing. This is the only character we've seen besides angels that is guaranteed stronger than at least some gods and I think it's too early to say ultra instinct is the only way to be that strong.
Zybatsu Agreed, When Goku went UI all the Gods were talking about it, yet none said anything about Jiren in that regard. Jiren power is probably so great that he’s simply able to keep up with it, I mean after all he broke through a time prison.
Zybatsu
jire. does have ultra instinct remember when i forgot some tried to attack him with four concrete blocks he simply moved
Maverick Rod well I’m pretty sure used about 20% of his power when he fought UI goku lol
Great point....and if i may add on, i agree with UI not being the only way to reach the gods for the simple point that they themselves are super strong yet show no signs of UI and if they did then it would foreshadow many warriors to ultimately and miraculously attain UI and that would just take away the prestige that is UI.
Zybatsu Lol what if jiren got a boost before the tournament lol im just sayin
From all the DBS channels I like this one the most. You have so much content constantly being uploaded I sincerely appreciate your dedication too your channel. Good job. I just highly disagree with your Star wars comments.
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They need to have filler episodes solely dedicated to Jiren and his backstory. He’s crazy strong and insane to watch fight but that can only keep me excited for so long. I want to know where he came from, why he’s so strong,what he’s fighting for, did anyone beat him before he obtained this power etc
Simple answer OP
The way Goku dodges Kefla’s blasts reminded me of Jiren dodging those building blocks in the very beginning of the tournament.
Hit has a physical ability with meta physical effects. Even though Hit’s ability is extra dimensional in nature his energy or ki is 3rd dimensional. Best example of this would be Goku breaking Hits time skip in the episode where he comes to assassinate Goku.
So, as impressive as Jiren is. Goku first demonstrated the weakness or limitation to Hits abilities. Showing that raw power can break his techniques because they are physical in nature. With that, Hit used a much more advanced move on Jiren, Jiren being the beast he is was able to use raw power and over come Hits execution of the technique. Showing that Hit is still interacting 3 dimensionally.
Technically yes and no as Hit is still manipulating time, so his attacks are still 4th dimensional well mostly Hit's ultimate attack he used on Jiren as Hit's Tokitobashi is just a dimensional shift in time which as seen with Goku can be shattered by attacks 4th dimensional or higher.
I just explained it very similar to this...you happened to beat me to the punch
He can fight a gods of destruction
Bring the scouters back and all the problems with this show will be solved
Yash Baghel lmao
Try to scan anyone in the series besides Yamcha and that shit will break like Namek saga scouters.
The whole point behind introducing scouters was to prove how useless those power levels were lol. Why tf would you want them back lol
me: hey super shenron I wish I have a godly scouter
super shenron: tahw?
me: yeh repus shenron I shiw I evah a yldog retuocs
super shenron: I tonnoc tnarg rouy shiw
me: nooooooooooooooooo!
I can't believe I have to speak the language of gods to do this wish why?
@@Toney1K the disrespect in that comment lmfao
Been in several Jiren power scale debates lately. This is a list of feats to which I and several others frequently refer.
Jiren Feats:
Jiren Feats:
Speed blitzed Goku prior to powering up.
Reacted without motion to god-ki-enhanced dynamic blocks in order to predict their motions.
Shook infinite 3D nothingness by walking. This is much greater than shaking infinite 3D space, which is in turn much greater than shaking and even destroying a universe.
His initial power-up alone shakes Beerus.
Took full power kick from "Saiyan Beyond God" + tons of training + SS2 to the head, and dozens of blows afterward, without moving.
Blocked SSG full power punches with one finger.
Took a full power kick to the face from SSB Kaioken Goku (possibly x 20), and barely reacted, and hardly moved.
Speed blitzed SSB KK x 20 Goku to a degree where he was able to hit him multiple times in such a small time period that hardly anyone even saw it.
Without using any hands, successfully deflected and condensed a Spirit Bomb which was in itself far stronger than SSB KK 20 Goku and was additionally being pushed by SSB KK 20 Goku's power. This puts him potentially dozens of times stronger than maxed out KK Goku. Vermod was even worried the Spirit Bomb would be enough to give Jiren a run for his money, AFTER heavily implying he had been defeated in combat by Jiren. To me, this is explicit confirmation that the Spirit Bomb + Base Goku is a power relative to if not greater than Vermod.
Stood in place and took the full force of the Spirit Bomb explosion while several extremely powerful warriors were tossed wildly across the arena by it.
Kept on par with a character who had the symptoms of Ultra Instinct, and eventually powered up to a point where he was able to block a full power punch from said character without moving, with one hand.
Calls UI Goku "interesting" instead of strong.
Completely nullifies a heavily improved Time Skip, and beats Hit's pure progress ability.
Takes a full power punch to the heart from Hit, and is undamaged, and even heals from the attack.
Is bound in a complete Time Stop (different than a Time Skip, MUCH more deadly too), and is able to walk.
While STILL being frozen in time, Jiren is able to affect the non-Time-Stopped world with just his eyes, holding a full power ki blast from Hit in place. While yet STILL frozen in time, Jiren grabs the ki blast a crushes it with one hand. Only THEN does he break free from being stopped in time. (Oh yea, and HE BROKE FREE FROM BEING STOPPED IN TIME).
Is able to meditate while floating in an arena where flying is disabled by the Grand Priest himself, AND with a barrier surrounding him that is likely at least as strong as his strongest opponent so far in the tournament, excluding possibly UI Goku. Putting out that much power while meditating in that fashion is honestly probably his best feat so far, possibly excluding his best feats against Hit.
jiren's flying with the magic of boku no pico
zebliks no just no
These were Great Times Geekdom
I really want to like Jiren but after the battle with Goku & the battle with Hit , I'm not really that hype on him anymore . He's great , amazing power which makes for great fights but I can't get behind this guy as a "villain" or a rival , until we get more from him . Banking on UI hype isn't going to be enough for this .
Viewing him as a villian doesnt have to be necessary, but for the rival I see your point. Because you have to remember Jiren is a good guy for what we know right now.
LegendaryZTV I feel you. Jiren's character is so bland it's hard to get involved in the story. At least Ribrianne and Kafla are so obnoxious that you want them to get beaten for good.
Yeaaah let's act like UI Goku doesn't have the same exact personality as Jiren.
Jerry Horton but we at least know who Goku is as a character ...
UI Goku sn't a separate entity, guys. It's still Goku but with his mind off.
I interpreted his "floating" as an extension of that shield he uses to deflect "weak" attacks that toppo referred to when Jiren was jumped after he began meditation. If it can repel strong ki attacks it can probably repel the ground. Moreover he's floating over that piece of rubble which makes me think he's doing an exercise for controlling his field.
Way the series has been going, both kale and caulifla will be one shotting gods and angels by the end of the tournament. Anybody else tired of them being pushed so hard???
Wheen goku and vegeta were getting crazy buffs during the frieza saga, no one bitched. Chill
Jim Peterson I hope because they are growing fast they will reach their limits too fast thus taking much longer than goku and vegeta to pass their own limits
Kale and Caulifas power ups are bullshit, but their fight against Goku still have been one of the more interesting fights in this arc.
Long Goal Horseman Not to this degree though. You can't defend this 😂
AnimeGaminRealm really nothing to defend but you’ll complain regardless
Jiren is someone who devotes everything to justice. He's not swayed by selfish reasons. It's even against his principles to kill someone, even if they're evil. But even so, there's one thing... There'll be a wish he wants fulfilled, even if it means throwing away those principles.
Could Solar Flair be a good attack to use on him? He has a power with his eyes, maybe an attack like solar flair could be his weakness
Great video
Are jiren’s pupils the white part or the solid black part?
Ben Krahn The white is like the Shine on the all black eyes
The solid black
I just realized that and no. It's the black part. The white part is the light glistening on his eye
zeti reticuli grey. All black.
This guy is so strong that he must be compensating for something
Vados One Shots Jiren , Like it or not
KaKarot _Modz no
Well she is a Tenshi
The match with goku and jiren is just going to be epic it’s going to change the dragon ball game
Jiren wasn’t really trying when he fought Goku. Ultra Instinct is about 50% of Jiren’s full power. Goku shouldn’t be able to defeat him. The only way Jiren should be “defeated” is by fusion. Anyone except Vegito or Gokhan shouldn’t be able to beat him (including Ultra Instinct Goku).
Masked Saiyan bro Jiren probably only used 20% of his power when he fought UI goku lol
Which is exactly why we will see a transformation within Ultra Instinct Goku. Maybe SSB Ultra Instinct, or SSG Ultra Instinct?
I took it as:
Hit skips through as himself. He puts himself in a bubble that allows him move through time. So when he put Jiren in that bubble and kept him there. I think it makes sense because prior we saw him extending the length of his time skip. So the only part to learn would be to re-position the bubble that does the time skip and keep him there for the time skip time.
At least that is my interpretation on it.
Monoka would 1 shot Jiren, dont @ me
Monoka vs Yamcha for new Omni king!
Me Me Big Disappointment.
Beerus The Destroyer His forehead gets bigger.
It has been said that “time vacuum” is actually using time jump on Jiren constantly. It means that from a Jiren's perspective it looked like when hit is in the alternate dimension. He was able to move in the dimension, but his body stood still in the real world. What Jiren did was not breaking or reversing the time but rather leaving the dimension for a short period. Later he did it repetitively so fast, that through the stroboscopic effect it looked like he moved.
The Bower of Jiren*
If you go back to beginning of the fight between Jiren and Goku, he let's out his energy that causes the World of Void to shake. Beerus asks "is this the energy from one person?". Zen-Oh or rather both of them don't seem phased at all. Everybody else is being forced backwards and they both move forwards like he wasn't doing anything but you can see his energy affecting the area where they sit.
Geekdom101 my prediction with Jiren, I believe Jiren will not be defeated. But he will lose the tournament. He’s going to be preoccupied fighting Goku until the very last second thus being a draw. Universe 7 wins and wish for the universes that lost to be brought back, but the universe is gonna merge together for the simple fact it make things easier on Zeno, by the universe merging together the God of destruction and the angles would be like but they’re not replacing they’ll be like north kai, south kai east kai etc, but on a more larger scale for example, you got your associates( god of the planet dendae), then you got department managers(north kai etc),support mangers( grand kai),assistant mangers (supreme kai), store mangers ( god of destruction)district mangers( angels), quadrant( new elected god of destruction/angel),regional (grand priest) then sector (Zenos) that’s the reason why there are two zenos
This make more sense for Vegeta being able to visit plant salada, and for another possible tournament involving the other universe that didn’t participate since Zeno think it’s awesome!
What’s your thoughts!?
John Marc yo what if the wish also brings back universe 13 - 17?
JACKY LMFAO I was wondering the same thing
In the future he got eliminated
your second theory on the time trap Jiren was stuck in makes the most sense.
Still. Nobody is commenting on the fact that Goku was completely void of energy like 5 minutes ago (Frieza gave him some), and now he has gone through every transformation (most of which DRAIN energy/stamina) *WHILE* simultaneously fighting Kafla who is constantly powering up herself. I mean come on guys. Lets not just criticize the bad writing that supports your dislike for a character/topic. Although Goku is a Saiyan prodigy, it makes absolutely 0 fucking sense that he is gaining energy/stamina WHILE fighting and draining it even more...All within a matter of approximately 5 mins? Now THAT is shitty writing
Lord Liquiir he went through more asspulls in the frieza saga. Fight me
Long Goal Horseman Lol I cannot dispute that...However, that 5 min fight lasted 5 episodes. Goku's pulling shit out of his ass (no pun intended) once every 30 seconds in this arc apparently
He is not a saiyan prodigy
Lord Liquiir that's why I think he got KOed by kefla, cause he drained himself from those forms
KingHash Yes he is. Goku is a low class saiyan but he's the strongest saiyan probably in history... He was supposed to be about Raditz level during the Saiyan saga (Raditz is also a low class saiyan). So for Goku to go from that to beyond a god? Yeah nothing less than a prodigy.
Don't know if I might be right, but on the concept of Jiren breaking through the time vacuum out of raw power. I think something similar was done by Super Buu when Gotenks and Piccolo sealed him in the time chamber. Buu breaks through portal out of anger out of the room. ✌🏼
Can he defeat the Farmer with a shotgun though?
I see this comment everywhere...lol
zamasu is immortal too, your point?
“In peace I will both lie down and sleep; for you alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety.” “In his days may the righteous flourish, and peace abound, till the moon be no more!” “And he said, 'O man greatly loved, fear not, peace be with you; be strong and of good courage.
Ultra instinct is suppose to be a technique so maybe goku can learn to stack ssj forms on it and make them relevant again. If kefla goes ssj3 will it make a difference to ultra instinct goku?
SIX PATHS TonTon Ultra Instinct is also a transformation in itself. The writers even called it Goku's new form and Roshi also called it a transformation.
SIX PATHS TonTon It's a transformation
There should be a mini spin off of Jiren The Gray because he's a interesting character and I believe some people want to know his past and how he got this far
I have one theory.. I think JIREN is not from universe 11. He may b the mortal form those six universe which was destroyed by zeno.. Somehow grand priest realized tht some mortal from those universe can be much stronger than their gods.. Thts why grand priest requested zeno sama to destroy those universes.. May be jiren from no 1 ranked universe tht time.. Somehow he managed to get out from his universe at the time of destroy.. And he landed to universe 11.. Thts why i think angel of universe 11 dont knw much abt jiren.. If u guyz noticed in episode 109/10 where toppo said jiren to earn DRAGON BALLS to get fulfill his wish.. I think he will wish for his UNIVERSE to get back..... ..
Impossible, because Zeno can erase beings even outside of their universe: even if Jiren wasn't there, he would have still been erased.
NovaGamer300 i love ur comment bro..but i think its only mystery of jiren after going through manga #30 i m more sure of it.. In manga jiren believes in peace he want to make peace everywhere.. He is strong but dont wanna fight. May be he was witness of such fight which causes his universe destruction.. And after seeing his ability i m sure he has managed somehow to escaped universe before the explosion. Its only my theory..
All I know is. For as strong as Jiren is. His origin better be pretty damn epic.
Jiren=Yamcha like if you agree
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