I think Jeanne's line in the first game "Do not fear your fate. Stand, Cereza. Stand, and open your eyes. For with every truth, there is another one to be seen." is connected in this chapter.
my head canon is that singularity a small part of singularity survive but he was so bitter he was like "you know what i'm gonna bully them when they still a kid!!"
Hit the nail on the head! But on the more specific side, it’s likely Singularity did not intend for this to happen judging from his reaction. He more likely did this as an instinctive last ditch attempt to escape his death after he was completely obliterated. No matter! Nothing better than sweet sweet revenge! AT LAST! JUSTICE FOR JEANNE!
So what Hellena was saying about a Jeanne spin-off for the near future was true 😂 that ending dialogue told us "keep your eyes open for Jeanne's next adventure"
Jeanne deserves a spin-off, and I hate that it takes a lot of work in the games to play as her. I think she’s great, and I hope they make more Bayonetta Origins games.
@@carsenmaxwell3336 I'd have to see atleast one game, where her characterization didn't begin and end with essentially being just a red and white Bayonetta, before I'd feel the need to see her star in a standalone adventure. Frankly I've never understood what about getting to play a full game as Bayonetta's more luridly coloured bedfellow is supposed to make it an appealing proposition to people. Like this Bonus Chapter is the closest her character and (past) rivalry with Cereza has ever come to feeling genuinely compelling on her own right, yet Jeanne still can't escape having functionally identical toolkit with Cereza's. It's kind of ridiculous.
@@tiagobezerramendes5137 SPOILER: Viola couldn't do jack shit to revive Jeanne or Bayonetta or Luka. She's all alone, she's (unfortunately) the new Bayonetta from now on. Your argument is invalid, kiddo.
@@daeity1 You're bluffing. The Arch Eve is already dead, which means that Cereza and Jeanne also died, and nothing can bring them back, not even Viola.
Basically this is another timeline because Jeanne knows about her death in bayo 3 something she could avoid if she knew, know she has the power to avoid that and we can see this also confirms this universe was untouched by singularity cuz both Jeanne and Cereza defeat him here before he took cereza, so this prolly caused another split making this cereza someone different 😩 Also singularity could easily be trying to deceive this Jeanne with her future death in order for him to stop her from saving Cereza’s
No? It's the same timeline, despite Singularity's messing around with the past, Jeanne chooses to live up to her fate with no fear, as she chooses to help Cereza.
@@danielalexispaulinh.8729 Again I don’t think so due to many many inconsistencies one being Jeanne not mentioning anything about what was happening in Bayo 3, and not avoiding her death when she could. Another important thing is cereza not knowing about fairies and not even acting surprise that “Lukaon” was alive. And the main factor, she didn’t have Cheshire as her demon in Bayo 3. You would think she’ll summon the most trustworthy demon she actually became family with even more than Madama butterfly but no. So that’s why I don’t think it’s the same timeline
I don't think this is an alternate timeline. Only the original Bayonetta (and not a variant) is referred to by Singularity as "Arch-Eve Origin". So technically this is really the past.
@@mistermistero7080 read my previous comment and you will know what I mean, him calling her arch eve origins makes no sense at all as she doesn’t know what fairies are in bayo 3 ( strider literally looks like Lukaon boss form I mean we know why), she hasn’t summon Cheshire which technically would be her most loyal demon eve n more than Madama as he’s her friend and would surely keep alive for a long time. Jeanne isn’t stupid enough to not avoid such simple attack let alone knowing it’ll happen to her cuz things about vision even if not shown here but the unspoken rule of future vision usually goes along the lines that you can see the place and such where it’ll happen so she clearly saw the setting and environment and would put one and one together and avoid such attack. And These are just a few of many inconsistencies. Also her having bayo 1 hairstyle at the end is another one. Also there’s the other unspoken rule that one small change in the past will cause a big in the future and thus why the “different timelines theory was created” Singularity by just being there and physically interacting with our characters already caused a split. Jeanne knowing her fate already can cause a different outcome for example. At the end of the day, this is a mess and that is why time traveling and different universes are such a complex and hard thing to pull off. They should just kept bayo fighting demons and angels, and yes fairies too without adding so much that confuses us.
6:32 bruh seeing that cutscene made me realize that this definitely another timeline so is Cereza and Jeane gonna live again? I'm used to bayonetta lore and story but this really throws it off. I'm guessing this game is non canon?
No it’s canon it just takes place in another timeline just like most Bayonetta, 3 confirmed this that Bayo 1, 2 and 3 are different Bayo’s just like this one
@@ZephK but then again she doesn’t knows anything about the fairies in bayo 3 and she also starts wearing bayo 1 hair here. I believe this probably the true arc eve origins but since she defeated him this world couldn’t become part of his reality and went for the closet one
@@jeshuarestituyo284 the brave Cereza is mostly a theory that's been popularized out of cope in the community, hell even Bayonetta not knowing what the Strider was at the first time she mets him makes sense with the fact that she lost her memories from 500 ago.
@@jeshuarestituyo284 fun fact. Cereza did that hairstyle because it was her way showing she is growing up. But the time in Bayo 3 events she changed it or possibly before even that. She just likes changing her hairstyle i suppose
So after getting his ass handed to him by a thousand and one bayonettas (and jeanne and luka) this bastard is STILL not dead, decides to use what little power he has left to time travel and stop Cereza in her childhood, only to get his ass handed to him *again* by a kid. Please just Stay dead now.
I know I’m in the minority, but I liked singularity and his fights in 3. I admit he was underdeveloped though, so I’m glad they took the opportunity to expand on him even if just a little bit :)
I mean as a villain I liked Singularity- Then again I always do like a smart villain. How the whole ending of Bayonetta 3 was handled on the other hand- Well I don't think they should have tried to imitate how DMC5 effectively ended.
While I was overall positively suprised at how great this game turned out to be, I'm of two minds about this bonus chapter. On one hand it's the first time for me that Bayonetta's narrative has managed to frame Jeanne's character and rivalry with Cereza as something to the effect of genuinely compelling (though I can't help but wonder which of them is copying the other's homework at this point?), on another I definitely wouldn't need Singularity and his multiversal mumbo jumbo to be a recurring thing.
Seriously, this game should have been released first and then followed by Bayonetta 3 a few months later. There are several confusing plot points in Bayonetta 3 which could have been prevented if we were prepared with this game's story like a) who Lukaon and the faeries are, b) why Luka has a second form, c) where Cheshire came from and why they are bound to Cereza's plush cat, d) what impact on the universes Singularity truly had, e) how Cereza got so powerful despite being exiled as 'the impure child', f) a bit of preparation for Jeanne's fate, etc.
Thanks for posting this video. I bet you are all thinking the same thing. I bet you are all thinking the same thing. For those who have played Bayonetta 3 will have understood, immediately that there are direct links, with origins: The secret boss is clearly a version of Singularity of Bayonetta 3. Perhaps a survivor of the epilogue of 3? We get a vision of Jeanne being killed by Singularity in the future of chapter 3. But it seems like things didn't quite go the way Singularity wanted? That is: this game here is a prequel to Bayonetta ok. But it seems like it's not quite directly related to chapter 3. Above all, the authors have declared that it is officially a spin-off. In this case a prequel - spin off. Then ... Singlularity believes that destiny is already desico, but in this story he was wrong, because he was surprised at the end of what happened, as if he hadn't calculated it, before being destroyed. And Bayonette at the end of the story, does her hair like in the first game. These are hints that for me, indicate that things will not work out, like in Bayonetta 3. A new different story has opened the doors for us.
@@JuwanBuchanan They literally just wrote him off as a lab experiment gone wrong. Balder and Loptr had LOADS better writing! Singularity destroying everything just because it chooses to is just so shallow. Villains who chose to be evil can be interesting, but Singularity sadly isn’t one of them.😓
Omg this game is so worth it to get next month but I am going to see people playing it tomorrow I don't have the money to get it and you can't pre-order what's coming out tomorrow already
Well she’s revived in bayo 3 at the end but this Jeanne is prolly another one and singularity was just showing her what happened to one of her variants
@@jeshuarestituyo284 Singularity names Bayonetta “Arch Eve Origin” so this is a time travel. PG is practically saying that are More Jeanne adventures coming soon.
@@mickeiloumbra9095 I know he did but that causes Inconsistencies with her not knowing about fairies in bayo 3, her not summoning Cheshire anymore cuz I’m pretty sure Cheshire wouldn’t have let Gomorrah take her to hell. She also still wearing her braids while here she starts sportin bayo 1 hair. There has to be an explanation like there could possibly be more than one arch eve origin, and a prime a prime is the first one of all for example
@@jeshuarestituyo284I think you're forgetting one small detail here buddy Bayonetta lost her memories from 500 years ago this is the original Bayonetta before you go sing anything else by the way as in the one that did get start with that dagger that was used to steal her away
I think he's something like a Revenant at this point- Just too damn stubborn to die and using his multiverse BS somehow managed to traverse Cereza's memories to try to catch her at point where she'd be weak so he could attempt to achieve his original goal... Whatever it was.
I figured the last attack just outright shredded him to the point what we see here is the best the Homunculi healing factor could do, on top of his being left severely weakened. Which in turn explains why his attacks lack their usual oomph.
While it doesn’t fix EVERYTHING wrong with Bayo 3’s story this game adds a lot of extra layers to Jeanne’s demise. Jeanne getting such an underwhelming death was one of my biggest issues with Bayo 3’s plot. Glad to see they actually cared about making it mean something even if it was retroactively
shrug, just because you didn't liked it doesn't Bayonetta 3 story was any worse than the previous two games ,it took actual risks to move the series somewhere different I enjoyed the story a lot and the characters and twists sure it could have been more fleshed out at certain parts, but it is the story Hideki Kamiya wanted to tell and its fine as it is, just like Bayonetta Origins is ok as well
@@astraldog3359 I mean when they chose to handle the whole Multiverse concept for Bayoetta 3, there's a lot they could get away with- As much as I wish they didn't just so my brain doesn't hurt dealing with Multiverse crap. Imitating how DMC5 ended by having the main character we've played as the whole series be trapped in the underworld so the reigns could be passed off to the next generation? I think they should have waited one or two more numbered entries in the series before that- At least so we can spend more time with Viola so we have a similar opinion of her as we do Nero now.
@@astraldog3359 Bayo 1 and 2's stories might have been presented in needlessly convoluted manner and had weird moving parts, they didn't bother to stop and explain, but atleast those stories felt internally consistent and revolved around engaging characters. Bayo 3 is in such a hurry to wrap things up in a big and epic climactic fashion, that in its rush to get there it does just about everything wrong a story of its kind can do, by literally and figuratively butchering most of its cast and potentially undermining any sense of consistency and consequence going forward. More often than not multiverse is poison to storytelling and Platinum were clearly out of their depth when it comes to incorporating it.
Je pense que ce jeu se passe dans une timeline alternative parce que les fées comme Lukaon ne sont pas dans l'Univers de Bayonetta 3 ! Je pense que comme Brave Cereza est décédée une autre version d'elle même à du prendre le rôle d'Arch-Eve Originelle ou que Singularity (étant une machine à la base) à tout simplement bugé est confondu Brave Cereza avec une autre suite à sa défaite contre Gomorah ! Je pense donc que nous suivrons cette Cereza et cette Jeanne dans les prochains jeux !
Ou que c'est clairement brave Cereza. Perso je vais patiemment attendre Bayonetta 4 qui devra clairement expliquer tous les événements de Bayonetta 3 et 4 ( et si possible nous révéler ce qui est à l'origine de la puissance de Singularity )
@@ambrebrusquade6560 bah. Le multivers existe. Déjà que les versions "Bayo 1" et "Bayo 2" vues dans le jeu ne sont sûrement pas la même bayo que la 1+2. Sûrement elle a péri à cause de Singularité mais vu qu'apparemment sa défaite a entraîné le retour des univers dévastés, sûrement elles sont vivantes
So Singularity appeared into this game just to die definitely and say "evereybody will die anyway". Sounds so encouraging. It would be much more appreciated if we were given an explanation of what happened to the universes deleted by Singularity. But I take it that Kamiya is interested in irritating open-ended storytelling.
This is nothing more than a remnant of him a fragment a part I am not refused to die a last ditch effort if you would to achieve his goal whatever it is.
@@Humaricslastcall What if he targeted a different timeline? He put that thought in Jeanne’s head to scare her away after all. If Jeanne could remember her childhood why not Cereza? Why did she not remember the Fairies after spending days with them on her adventure with Cheshire?
If you take a closer look at his appearance and the way he attacks, Singularity is actually a lot weaker than he used to be. His legs and arms are withering away. He’s unable to summon his fellow homunculi and relies on Cereza’s memories instead. This is Singularity from Bayonetta 3 who survived its destruction. It used its powers over time harvested from the countless versions of Bayonetta in a last ditch attempt to escape to the past and destroy Cereza when she was still a child… which didn’t work at all and led to him getting his ass handed to him by JEANNE, AS A CHILD!😂
@@reicho3034 DEADASS? the audacity to try and salvage his superiority complex and kill a child JUST TO TELL HIMSELF that he can still confirm his affirmations is just too funny ☠️
@@daeity1 NO KIDDING! I swear, Singularity is the WORST Bayonetta villain we’ve ever had. He never shuts up! Never dies! Chose to destroy and absorb worlds because it CAN. And even his powers don’t make sense! “Affirmation” is literally the embodiment of those kids who never play fair in a game of make-belief who say they are always protected by magic barriers. He started this entire Alphaverse conquest just to feed his ego like a knock-off Thanos. He’s nothing like Balder or Loptr. He’s not even more powerful than Jubileus or Lord Aesir! He’s just a hard-to-kill jerk with a ridiculous amount of power, WHICH DOESN’T EVEN WORK ALL THE TIME! Pathetic. Hopefully this is FINALLY the last we see of him.
@@reicho3034 see, i love balder and loptr because DESPITE that they take FOREVER to talk, the lore represents themselves through their actions. singularity does nothing to present itself as a threat but more of a punching bag. in bayo 3, the only reason why he could fuck up is because my theory is about how singularity leads bayonetta (cereza, and her variants) through a very specific and *narrow* way where he could kill them off. i still want to think singularity needs to be written *properly* because it would be a fun way for him to be the last resort to something far more sinister? like imagine if singularity was made to keep the trinity of realities alive through an unprecedented / unorthodox way but goes completely corrupted and is actively killing the thing that would tip the balance of the Eyes of the World? Also, it'd fun to think about some lovecraftian monster hiding somewhere around the galaxy and is trying to force the Trinity to kill itself and whatnot
@@reicho3034 um no. This is Songularity way before he even killed a Bayonetta or a person. So that explains him being defeated by Jeanne( or Jeanne is just strong af)
Singularity: Jeanne if you fight me ~600+ years from now you'll die when I stab you in the back, which is ~500 years later than every other witch and like, an hour or so before Cereza dies. I'm going to act surprised when you beat me, even though in order for this to be true, you'd *have* to beat me. I know what statistics are.
Jeanne: Cool thanks for telling me I'll die via backstab, I totally won't be on the lookout for backstabs when I'm left alone with a green dude while fighting green villains. This makes my death in Bayo 3 deeper instead of cheaper totally.
How did jeanne not remember what she saw in bayo 3 bc then she would have been able to have been alive cause if Sigurd can sit there in a macine he can surely fight for himself and plus why couldn't they spot something sus being the fact his outfit was pure white like the body of the homunculi
Are you kidding me cereza met singularity at that age that changed the fate of her future wow are you kidding me maybe she had Amesia forgot about Mr heartbreaker all those years didn't even know about it and he got his ass kicked now when she is a grown woman wow everything makes connections
I reckon that this one remaining part of Singularity travelled back in time to ensure he would avoid his defeat, but ended up erased while creating a casual loop and ensuring his defeat in the future. Thus creating a singularity. 😎
It feels a little out of character for Singularity to treat little Jeanne with so much respect 😂when you see how much of a jerk he is to both Cereza and Viola in part 3 He had a big ego
Not really as Singularity has traveled to the past after his defeat in Bayonetta 3. His permanent defeat in this timeline has made no effect whatsoever.
Time traveled? I don't think so at all. But even if it were as you say, it did indeed have an influence! Jeanne knows what will happen to him now. And this his other self of Bayonetta 3 did not know, because he did not expect it. The future will be changed. Also because Bayonetta has done the hairstyle of the first chapter.
@@Paarzival9877 No it hasn't. Hell the narrator itself says. "We may not be able to change our fate, but we can choose how to meet it" . Jeanne chose to protect Cereza despite knowing she will die . That is the whole purpose of this scene and what makes Jeanne's character stronger.
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I think Jeanne's line in the first game "Do not fear your fate. Stand, Cereza. Stand, and open your eyes. For with every truth, there is another one to be seen." is connected in this chapter.
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU A LESSON BALD MAN
Bald man: I love my phenomenon super science!
(*every version of arch-eve slowly approach in anger*)
Oh My Jesus!!! 😂🙈🤣
my head canon is that singularity a small part of singularity survive but he was so bitter he was like "you know what i'm gonna bully them when they still a kid!!"
Hit the nail on the head! But on the more specific side, it’s likely Singularity did not intend for this to happen judging from his reaction. He more likely did this as an instinctive last ditch attempt to escape his death after he was completely obliterated. No matter! Nothing better than sweet sweet revenge! AT LAST! JUSTICE FOR JEANNE!
I mean, Skynet did try to kill young John Connor TWICE to prevent its downfall.
That seems likely since parts of his body aren’t there, pieces destroyed from 3’s final battle
@@reicho3034 Hey, Singularity did a Aku! x)
@@reicho3034 Singularity broke the 4th wall saw the Bayonetta Origins "demo" in Bayonetta 3 and went inside, like a virus
I hope that means we could get a possible DLC for Bayonetta 3 where Jeanne is able to stop things from happening.
Or better yet, a full-on game where Jeanne fights fate itself and smashes Singularity into scrap.
I do want that but I also wanna see what they'd bring with Viola.
A whole DLC where she stops singularity and stops Luka from kissing Cereza would be nice
@@Gameguy5289 the only thing I hope they do with Viola is wipe her out of existence. Go Jeanne, break them up!!
@@SDALLE99 not going to happen
Jeanne knowing of her future death and making sure bayonetta is safe and protects her. Makes me hurt even more. 😢
such a queen
So what Hellena was saying about a Jeanne spin-off for the near future was true 😂 that ending dialogue told us "keep your eyes open for Jeanne's next adventure"
Jeanne deserves a spin-off, and I hate that it takes a lot of work in the games to play as her. I think she’s great, and I hope they make more Bayonetta Origins games.
@@carsenmaxwell3336 I'd have to see atleast one game, where her characterization didn't begin and end with essentially being just a red and white Bayonetta, before I'd feel the need to see her star in a standalone adventure. Frankly I've never understood what about getting to play a full game as Bayonetta's more luridly coloured bedfellow is supposed to make it an appealing proposition to people.
Like this Bonus Chapter is the closest her character and (past) rivalry with Cereza has ever come to feeling genuinely compelling on her own right, yet Jeanne still can't escape having functionally identical toolkit with Cereza's. It's kind of ridiculous.
Finally some love to Jeanne, wonder If she can change the future in the next Bayo.
She can't, because SPOILER ALERT:
She's dead.
@@o.h.x-9062 the death of cereza allowed jeanne to come back. she was, after all, the arch eve in the egyptian timeline...
@@o.h.x-9062 SPOILER:
I don't think so, thanks to viola.
@@tiagobezerramendes5137 SPOILER:
Viola couldn't do jack shit to revive Jeanne or Bayonetta or Luka. She's all alone, she's (unfortunately) the new Bayonetta from now on. Your argument is invalid, kiddo.
@@daeity1 You're bluffing. The Arch Eve is already dead, which means that Cereza and Jeanne also died, and nothing can bring them back, not even Viola.
Child Jeanne beats up Singularity, who literally backstabbed adult Jeanne in her best ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS outfit.
Justice is served at last.
I can't with Jeanne dead scene from B3 💀
Bro got mad so he went back in time to beef w kids
Basically this is another timeline because Jeanne knows about her death in bayo 3 something she could avoid if she knew, know she has the power to avoid that and we can see this also confirms this universe was untouched by singularity cuz both Jeanne and Cereza defeat him here before he took cereza, so this prolly caused another split making this cereza someone different 😩
Also singularity could easily be trying to deceive this Jeanne with her future death in order for him to stop her from saving Cereza’s
No? It's the same timeline, despite Singularity's messing around with the past, Jeanne chooses to live up to her fate with no fear, as she chooses to help Cereza.
@@danielalexispaulinh.8729 Which is stupid once you think about it. You'll think she'll stop it
@@danielalexispaulinh.8729 Again I don’t think so due to many many inconsistencies one being Jeanne not mentioning anything about what was happening in Bayo 3, and not avoiding her death when she could. Another important thing is cereza not knowing about fairies and not even acting surprise that “Lukaon” was alive. And the main factor, she didn’t have Cheshire as her demon in Bayo 3. You would think she’ll summon the most trustworthy demon she actually became family with even more than Madama butterfly but no. So that’s why I don’t think it’s the same timeline
I don't think this is an alternate timeline. Only the original Bayonetta (and not a variant) is referred to by Singularity as "Arch-Eve Origin". So technically this is really the past.
@@mistermistero7080 read my previous comment and you will know what I mean, him calling her arch eve origins makes no sense at all as she doesn’t know what fairies are in bayo 3 ( strider literally looks like Lukaon boss form I mean we know why), she hasn’t summon Cheshire which technically would be her most loyal demon eve n more than Madama as he’s her friend and would surely keep alive for a long time.
Jeanne isn’t stupid enough to not avoid such simple attack let alone knowing it’ll happen to her cuz things about vision even if not shown here but the unspoken rule of future vision usually goes along the lines that you can see the place and such where it’ll happen so she clearly saw the setting and environment and would put one and one together and avoid such attack. And These are just a few of many inconsistencies. Also her having bayo 1 hairstyle at the end is another one.
Also there’s the other unspoken rule that one small change in the past will cause a big in the future and thus why the “different timelines theory was created” Singularity by just being there and physically interacting with our characters already caused a split. Jeanne knowing her fate already can cause a different outcome for example.
At the end of the day, this is a mess and that is why time traveling and different universes are such a complex and hard thing to pull off. They should just kept bayo fighting demons and angels, and yes fairies too without adding so much that confuses us.
We finally got the chance to see Jeanne’s Cheshire.🥰
His name is Charles, by the way. He has a horn.
@@kraosdadafusfus8034 in plush form it’s a party hat but I do love how it turns into a horn when transformed
I thought Jeanne would have different mechanics. Though it make sense she has Charles like Cereza has Cheshire.
@@d.e5294 Whatever gave you that idea? Jeanne has mechanically been a copy-cat Bayo in every game so far.
Remember what Jeanne said back in Bayo 2 when she was being dragged to hell?
What? No, really, I'm curious
@@erickbrites642 “No… This isn’t how things end.”
That's such a good theory I hate it
Me having shivers when I heard singularity voice
You have to be frickimg kidding me. And his theme is still there singularity balance
21:07 She became one of the most powerful Witches in the world, and the very best friend a sister could ask for.
"We're affirming the mother of all phenomena here, Jeanne! Can't fret over every last Arch-Eve!"
I'm so happy we got Bayo game with good plot
6:32 bruh seeing that cutscene made me realize that this definitely another timeline so is Cereza and Jeane gonna live again? I'm used to bayonetta lore and story but this really throws it off. I'm guessing this game is non canon?
No it’s canon it just takes place in another timeline just like most Bayonetta, 3 confirmed this that Bayo 1, 2 and 3 are different Bayo’s just like this one
This is the bayo 3 timeline actually because Singularity called Cereza “Arch-eve origin”.
@@ZephK but then again she doesn’t knows anything about the fairies in bayo 3 and she also starts wearing bayo 1 hair here. I believe this probably the true arc eve origins but since she defeated him this world couldn’t become part of his reality and went for the closet one
@@jeshuarestituyo284 the brave Cereza is mostly a theory that's been popularized out of cope in the community, hell even Bayonetta not knowing what the Strider was at the first time she mets him makes sense with the fact that she lost her memories from 500 ago.
@@jeshuarestituyo284 fun fact. Cereza did that hairstyle because it was her way showing she is growing up. But the time in Bayo 3 events she changed it or possibly before even that. She just likes changing her hairstyle i suppose
So after getting his ass handed to him by a thousand and one bayonettas (and jeanne and luka) this bastard is STILL not dead, decides to use what little power he has left to time travel and stop Cereza in her childhood, only to get his ass handed to him *again* by a kid.
Please just
Stay dead now.
Sounds like it's jeannes game next
I know I’m in the minority, but I liked singularity and his fights in 3. I admit he was underdeveloped though, so I’m glad they took the opportunity to expand on him even if just a little bit :)
i'm not the only one then? thank god
Same
I mean as a villain I liked Singularity- Then again I always do like a smart villain.
How the whole ending of Bayonetta 3 was handled on the other hand- Well I don't think they should have tried to imitate how DMC5 effectively ended.
While I was overall positively suprised at how great this game turned out to be, I'm of two minds about this bonus chapter. On one hand it's the first time for me that Bayonetta's narrative has managed to frame Jeanne's character and rivalry with Cereza as something to the effect of genuinely compelling (though I can't help but wonder which of them is copying the other's homework at this point?), on another I definitely wouldn't need Singularity and his multiversal mumbo jumbo to be a recurring thing.
Ok this loook soooooo cool!
Seriously, this game should have been released first and then followed by Bayonetta 3 a few months later. There are several confusing plot points in Bayonetta 3 which could have been prevented if we were prepared with this game's story like a) who Lukaon and the faeries are, b) why Luka has a second form, c) where Cheshire came from and why they are bound to Cereza's plush cat, d) what impact on the universes Singularity truly had, e) how Cereza got so powerful despite being exiled as 'the impure child', f) a bit of preparation for Jeanne's fate, etc.
Thanks for posting this video.
I bet you are all thinking the same thing.
I bet you are all thinking the same thing.
For those who have played Bayonetta 3 will have understood, immediately that there are direct links, with origins: The secret boss is clearly a version of Singularity of Bayonetta 3. Perhaps a survivor of the epilogue of 3? We get a vision of Jeanne being killed by Singularity in the future of chapter 3.
But it seems like things didn't quite go the way Singularity wanted?
That is: this game here is a prequel to Bayonetta ok. But it seems like it's not quite directly related to chapter 3.
Above all, the authors have declared that it is officially a spin-off. In this case a prequel - spin off.
Then ... Singlularity believes that destiny is already desico, but in this story he was wrong, because he was surprised at the end of what happened, as if he hadn't calculated it, before being destroyed. And Bayonette at the end of the story, does her hair like in the first game. These are hints that for me, indicate that things will not work out, like in Bayonetta 3. A new different story has opened the doors for us.
5:37 Singularity has no lips
Singularity used the theme of the second phase instead of the current phase
Guess that does gives a sense of power downgrading here
Thus is the story of The Platinum Witch.
Singularity?! How the hell is he here? Still, it's nice that Jeanne gets her revenge.
He traverses the multiverse travels in time!
Seriously, he just NEVER shuts up!
I honestly like Singularity but he needed more of a backstory to justify what he was doing and why to make him stand out.
@@JuwanBuchanan They literally just wrote him off as a lab experiment gone wrong. Balder and Loptr had LOADS better writing! Singularity destroying everything just because it chooses to is just so shallow. Villains who chose to be evil can be interesting, but Singularity sadly isn’t one of them.😓
@@reicho3034 What do you think about the Batman who Laughs who always wins then?
Omg this game is so worth it to get next month but I am going to see people playing it tomorrow I don't have the money to get it and you can't pre-order what's coming out tomorrow already
so jeanne is gonna die anyway...?
Well she’s revived in bayo 3 at the end but this Jeanne is prolly another one and singularity was just showing her what happened to one of her variants
@@jeshuarestituyo284 Singularity names Bayonetta “Arch Eve Origin” so this is a time travel. PG is practically saying that are More Jeanne adventures coming soon.
@@mickeiloumbra9095 I know he did but that causes Inconsistencies with her not knowing about fairies in bayo 3, her not summoning Cheshire anymore cuz I’m pretty sure Cheshire wouldn’t have let Gomorrah take her to hell. She also still wearing her braids while here she starts sportin bayo 1 hair. There has to be an explanation like there could possibly be more than one arch eve origin, and a prime a prime is the first one of all for example
@@jeshuarestituyo284I think you're forgetting one small detail here buddy Bayonetta lost her memories from 500 years ago this is the original Bayonetta before you go sing anything else by the way as in the one that did get start with that dagger that was used to steal her away
That’s Singularity!
i feel like everything couldve been different if this game came out first before 3
Exactly.
This has nothing to do with jeanne (even tho I love her) but if cheshire has a demon in it now, is this most likely bayonetta 0?
OH NO WAY!!!??
The singularity still ALIVE ????!!!
remember this is in the past.
Kinda alive more like in pieces and broken after 3
I think he's something like a Revenant at this point- Just too damn stubborn to die and using his multiverse BS somehow managed to traverse Cereza's memories to try to catch her at point where she'd be weak so he could attempt to achieve his original goal... Whatever it was.
@@phoenixchampion7 his original goal was the unification of the multiverse under his rule to fight Paradiso and Inferno
I figured the last attack just outright shredded him to the point what we see here is the best the Homunculi healing factor could do, on top of his being left severely weakened. Which in turn explains why his attacks lack their usual oomph.
By the all spark of cybertron, Singularity is still alive!! or he's time traveled to this timeline :/
My thoughts exactly! What the hell is Singularity doing HERE of all places?!
@@jettthespeeddemon3884 Pulling a Skynet.
@@jettthespeeddemon3884 We may never know... x)
Was this a hint to a Jeanne spinoff game?
While it doesn’t fix EVERYTHING wrong with Bayo 3’s story this game adds a lot of extra layers to Jeanne’s demise. Jeanne getting such an underwhelming death was one of my biggest issues with Bayo 3’s plot. Glad to see they actually cared about making it mean something even if it was retroactively
shrug, just because you didn't liked it doesn't Bayonetta 3 story was any worse than the previous two games ,it took actual risks to move the series somewhere different
I enjoyed the story a lot and the characters and twists sure it could have been more fleshed out at certain parts, but it is the story Hideki Kamiya wanted to tell and its fine as it is, just like Bayonetta Origins is ok as well
Huh? Still doesn't make sense. So Jeanne let herself to be killed just because some weird spectre said she would be killed like that??? That's bs.
@@astraldog3359 Bayo 3 story was far worse than the other ones. "It took actual risks to move ..." so what???
@@astraldog3359 I mean when they chose to handle the whole Multiverse concept for Bayoetta 3, there's a lot they could get away with- As much as I wish they didn't just so my brain doesn't hurt dealing with Multiverse crap.
Imitating how DMC5 ended by having the main character we've played as the whole series be trapped in the underworld so the reigns could be passed off to the next generation? I think they should have waited one or two more numbered entries in the series before that- At least so we can spend more time with Viola so we have a similar opinion of her as we do Nero now.
@@astraldog3359 Bayo 1 and 2's stories might have been presented in needlessly convoluted manner and had weird moving parts, they didn't bother to stop and explain, but atleast those stories felt internally consistent and revolved around engaging characters.
Bayo 3 is in such a hurry to wrap things up in a big and epic climactic fashion, that in its rush to get there it does just about everything wrong a story of its kind can do, by literally and figuratively butchering most of its cast and potentially undermining any sense of consistency and consequence going forward. More often than not multiverse is poison to storytelling and Platinum were clearly out of their depth when it comes to incorporating it.
Je pense que ce jeu se passe dans une timeline alternative parce que les fées comme Lukaon ne sont pas dans l'Univers de Bayonetta 3 ! Je pense que comme Brave Cereza est décédée une autre version d'elle même à du prendre le rôle d'Arch-Eve Originelle ou que Singularity (étant une machine à la base) à tout simplement bugé est confondu Brave Cereza avec une autre suite à sa défaite contre Gomorah ! Je pense donc que nous suivrons cette Cereza et cette Jeanne dans les prochains jeux !
Ou que c'est clairement brave Cereza. Perso je vais patiemment attendre Bayonetta 4 qui devra clairement expliquer tous les événements de Bayonetta 3 et 4 ( et si possible nous révéler ce qui est à l'origine de la puissance de Singularity )
@@wilhempatrickmbassinzie370 Je suis dans le déni, je veux pas perdre Jeanne c'est mon personnage préféré de la série !
@@ambrebrusquade6560 bah. Le multivers existe. Déjà que les versions "Bayo 1" et "Bayo 2" vues dans le jeu ne sont sûrement pas la même bayo que la 1+2. Sûrement elle a péri à cause de Singularité mais vu qu'apparemment sa défaite a entraîné le retour des univers dévastés, sûrement elles sont vivantes
So Singularity appeared into this game just to die definitely and say "evereybody will die anyway". Sounds so encouraging. It would be much more appreciated if we were given an explanation of what happened to the universes deleted by Singularity. But I take it that Kamiya is interested in irritating open-ended storytelling.
I think that they recame.
If I am not mistaken, they all got restored. Hence why Bayo 1 & 2 (and maybe all the others appeared in the final battle. :/
@@Archon3960 only bayo 1-2... the other bayos were just "ghosts"
@@7thAxis they weren't ghosts. And Singularity wasn't defeated
@@7thAxis Well, since we're swimming into unconfirmed territory here, I'm not sure about that.
#JusticeforJeanne
why they making me relive her death again ;(
This might be Singularity from the past!
How do you unlock this?
Simply clear the main game storyline, but I think it's a 100% clear bonus.
I need the ost of singularity's defeat
It's singularity how is he seeing her there when he doesn't exist yet
In a last ditch effort to save himself, yet he still died
Hey if he dies here then he won’t start bayo 3 so does that mean bayo 3 won’t happen anymore?
This is nothing more than a remnant of him a fragment a part I am not refused to die a last ditch effort if you would to achieve his goal whatever it is.
Bayo 3 had to happen in order for this to make sense. It happened before with Balder in Bayo 2 giving needed context for Bayo 1.
@@Humaricslastcall What if he targeted a different timeline? He put that thought in Jeanne’s head to scare her away after all. If Jeanne could remember her childhood why not Cereza? Why did she not remember the Fairies after spending days with them on her adventure with Cheshire?
Does that mean Cereza in Bayo 3 lost the "Left Eye" too??
If events played out similarly as Bayonetta 2, then yes. Probably. :/
is singularity tethered by the multiverse? i want to know actually wtf happened
If you take a closer look at his appearance and the way he attacks, Singularity is actually a lot weaker than he used to be. His legs and arms are withering away. He’s unable to summon his fellow homunculi and relies on Cereza’s memories instead. This is Singularity from Bayonetta 3 who survived its destruction. It used its powers over time harvested from the countless versions of Bayonetta in a last ditch attempt to escape to the past and destroy Cereza when she was still a child… which didn’t work at all and led to him getting his ass handed to him by JEANNE, AS A CHILD!😂
@@reicho3034 DEADASS? the audacity to try and salvage his superiority complex and kill a child JUST TO TELL HIMSELF that he can still confirm his affirmations is just too funny ☠️
@@daeity1 NO KIDDING! I swear, Singularity is the WORST Bayonetta villain we’ve ever had. He never shuts up! Never dies! Chose to destroy and absorb worlds because it CAN. And even his powers don’t make sense! “Affirmation” is literally the embodiment of those kids who never play fair in a game of make-belief who say they are always protected by magic barriers. He started this entire Alphaverse conquest just to feed his ego like a knock-off Thanos.
He’s nothing like Balder or Loptr. He’s not even more powerful than Jubileus or Lord Aesir! He’s just a hard-to-kill jerk with a ridiculous amount of power, WHICH DOESN’T EVEN WORK ALL THE TIME! Pathetic. Hopefully this is FINALLY the last we see of him.
@@reicho3034 see, i love balder and loptr because DESPITE that they take FOREVER to talk, the lore represents themselves through their actions. singularity does nothing to present itself as a threat but more of a punching bag. in bayo 3, the only reason why he could fuck up is because my theory is about how singularity leads bayonetta (cereza, and her variants) through a very specific and *narrow* way where he could kill them off.
i still want to think singularity needs to be written *properly* because it would be a fun way for him to be the last resort to something far more sinister? like imagine if singularity was made to keep the trinity of realities alive through an unprecedented / unorthodox way but goes completely corrupted and is actively killing the thing that would tip the balance of the Eyes of the World?
Also, it'd fun to think about some lovecraftian monster hiding somewhere around the galaxy and is trying to force the Trinity to kill itself and whatnot
@@reicho3034 um no. This is Songularity way before he even killed a Bayonetta or a person. So that explains him being defeated by Jeanne( or Jeanne is just strong af)
I was like YOU! NOT You again. I thought we got RID. OFYOU. I was like no not Again
I'm a little confused
Who was Jeanne calling "no name"?
Charles (or rather the demon possessing her plushie, Charles)
right, thx, i hadnt seen the opening when this appeared in my reccommended@@ShadowSneak.
but that's Singularity!, why's he in that time period!, it's 3 centuries too soon for him to show up!
He was three centuries too early to stop Jeanne. 😎
Singularity: Jeanne if you fight me ~600+ years from now you'll die when I stab you in the back, which is ~500 years later than every other witch and like, an hour or so before Cereza dies. I'm going to act surprised when you beat me, even though in order for this to be true, you'd *have* to beat me. I know what statistics are.
Jeanne: Cool thanks for telling me I'll die via backstab, I totally won't be on the lookout for backstabs when I'm left alone with a green dude while fighting green villains. This makes my death in Bayo 3 deeper instead of cheaper totally.
How did jeanne not remember what she saw in bayo 3 bc then she would have been able to have been alive cause if Sigurd can sit there in a macine he can surely fight for himself and plus why couldn't they spot something sus being the fact his outfit was pure white like the body of the homunculi
omg bayo 3 (2022) leaked in bayo origins (2023)😨😨😨😨😨
Are you kidding me cereza met singularity at that age that changed the fate of her future wow are you kidding me maybe she had Amesia forgot about Mr heartbreaker all those years didn't even know about it and he got his ass kicked now when she is a grown woman wow everything makes connections
I reckon that this one remaining part of Singularity travelled back in time to ensure he would avoid his defeat, but ended up erased while creating a casual loop and ensuring his defeat in the future. Thus creating a singularity. 😎
It feels a little out of character for Singularity to treat little Jeanne with so much respect 😂when you see how much of a jerk he is to both Cereza and Viola in part 3
He had a big ego
Hopefully this retcons 3
atleast the music is good still
putting spoilers in the thumbnail should be bannable :3
They're not humans tho they're witches?!
They’re still human, witches aren’t a species, it’s their clan
We have confirmation.
The future of Bayonetta 3 has been changed.
Not really as Singularity has traveled to the past after his defeat in Bayonetta 3.
His permanent defeat in this timeline has made no effect whatsoever.
Time traveled? I don't think so at all. But even if it were as you say, it did indeed have an influence! Jeanne knows what will happen to him now. And this his other self of Bayonetta 3 did not know, because he did not expect it. The future will be changed. Also because Bayonetta has done the hairstyle of the first chapter.
@@Paarzival9877
All she knows is that she will die from a backstab. She doesn't know anything else. It's not going to change.
@@juanlaise1059 Do you believe that the future now will not have changed? Shit if it is!
The future of Chapter 3 has been changed!
@@Paarzival9877
No it hasn't. Hell the narrator itself says.
"We may not be able to change our fate, but we can choose how to meet it" . Jeanne chose to protect Cereza despite knowing she will die . That is the whole purpose of this scene and what makes Jeanne's character stronger.
Can we please stop with the spoiler thumbnails?
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