If there were an All Judges season I picture the top three as Stacey Mckenzie, Pangina Heals (winner), and Carson Kressley (lipsync Assassin). And Rupaul as the first out.
Thank you both so much for your examination of Jinkx's AS7 win. Very loud portions of the fandom have been absolutely shitting on her lately and I don't think that's fair. Did she lose more lipsyncs than she won? Yes. Did she obliterate almost every challenge? Yes. Did Monet win that final lipsync? Yes. Did Jinkx still deserve the crown? Yes.
The reason people are upset is because the format was stated from the beginning, it's not about the number of wins you get as long as you make it to the top 4. From there, you have to win the lip syncs to win the crown. Then suddenly at the end they changed the rules, in an ADR snippet of Ru claiming that now it was based on the entire competition. It took away the purpose of the stars and the entire lip sync lalaparuza. Jinkx deserves absolutely none of the hate because the decision wasn't hers to make, but to say she deserved the crown with the rules they established is a little funny to me, considering Monet had 5 stars and also won the final lip sync.
The only people who should care about lip syncs on who is the best drag queen are people whose only exposure to drag is the show and have been forced fed the idea that lip sync is what all drag queens do that they kept repeating ad nauseam in the early seasons.
Jinkx won the season… The producers should never have done the lip sync battle for an all winners season. I don’t like it for any season tbh. It puts too much emphasis on one singular element of drag.
UK vs the World was a crazy season…… My Top 4 would have been Blu, Pangina, Janey and Jimbo. It seems crazy to talk about why Mo, Juju and Baga didn’t win, because none of them should even have been in the final based on what they showed during the season.
Babe janey should have gone home ep 1 she was BY FAR the worst in the talent show😂 call mistress for the drag delusion.Also yeah pangina would slay those hoez
I love Tabbi Kat!!! She’s so fun! I would definitely love to go to St. Louis to see a “Mangled Morning” drag show with all the girls on the channel!! 🤍🤍🤍
I want a runner up/finalist all stars so badly! I can’t imagine Courtney Act (if things patched up with wow) Brook Lynn Hytes, Lady Camden, Asia O’Hara, Gigi Goode etc all on ONE season of all stars!!!! That would be sickening!!!! I just realized this is also an excuse to have Jujubee on another season! Especially if they brought Raven back it would be so cool but I doubt either of them will come back
Jujubee would be first out. She was in the bottom like 4 times on Season 2, the bottom every challenge on All Stars 1 after episode one and then on UK vs World was in the bottom 3 episodes in a row. And Roxxxy Andrews gets soo much hate for being in the bottom on one of the hardest seasons lol
@@ccdaly2561 Honestly I feel like Katya could be coaxed back in if it was an AS7-style season. she could do whatever she wanted and the viewers would eat it up. The producers wouldn't dare give one of the top fan favorites of all time a bad edit, so at worst she would just have a role similar to Yvie oddly in AS7.
@@JRCody-ds3ec that would involve being sequestered, and doing challenges, and being ON every time the camera is rolling, and by her own admission, she barely leaves the house unless Trixie makes her do so and a paycheck is attached. Which I think is GREAT for her. She overextended herself after AS2 and had that extended relapse, and she's doing so much better now by kinda not doing anything unless she has to. Her exact words, "I don't WANT to work anymore". She turned down lipsync assassin twice. She doesn't want to come back.
20:24 Based on what we feel: Yes. But let's not forget that Baga Chipz has the exact same track record as Blu Hydrangea - not just overall but in the exact same episodes as well. Mo had the same too except one Low instead of a Safe, and Jujubee had arguibly the worst with three bottom placements, one Safe and one win. Both Jimbo and Pangina had better track records - even at the time of their elimination because they got two wins each and Pangina has one more High.
The difference is that everytime Blu was safe she SHOULD have been high and whenever Baga was safe she was clear bottom/low material. Even the last bottom2 placement… anyone with eyes and ears know that Blu should have been in the top over Jujubee but they needed to give her the win. The placement this season were just… weird
Great cast, horrible execution. Hate to say it but pangina did it to herself. Baga was underwhelming most of the season. Blu served each week on the runway and in the challenges . She deserved a few more high placements and her only bottom was because whoever wasn't in the top was in the bottom
Still half the cast weren’t finalists. Detox and Katya became finalists that season, but then along with Tati, Alyssa and Coco still weren’t finalists.
Mera, thanks for being funny, smart, and thoughtful. You also have wonderful co-hosts. Thank you for bringing me joy since I discovered you last year. xoxo
To me it’s just starting to feel like Mera doesn’t like Miz Cracker because in the few times that she has spoken about her on this channel it’s never with any amusement like she does with other Queens. To say that you would’ve had a Shea Jujubee double win when Miz Cracker dominated the entire season and the only thing that stopped her from winning was Shea’s storyline is kind of baffling to me 😂. On one hand you’re like “oh Alaska didn’t have the emotional storyline of season 2 but she dominated the season so she deserved to win” and on the other and you’re like “well Miz Cracker dominated the season but she didn’t have the emotional storyline so I didn’t want her to win” it’s very grasping at straws, just say you don’t like her sis 💀
Is no one going to talk about Miz Cracker having TWO chances to give Shea the boot? And, she didn't do it. Miz Cracker likely already knew at top 5 that she probably wouldn't beat Shea, but sending Shea packing would destroy MC's popularity, so she was trying to preserve her career at that point and hoping that Shea would slip.
I feel like where they went wrong on All Stars 3 with the Jury vote twist is having them pick BOTH finalists. It should have been they choose one and THE Judges choose one. That would've made the twist less hated on and then it would've been Trixie and Shangela as the final two. Shangela then would've won rightfully so. I'm a huge Trixie fan, but Shangela slayed as everyone knows.
I think Trixie was a deserving winner of AS3, she did very well the entire season with the exception of snatch game and there were other episodes were she easily could have been top 2 like the Bitchelor and the Kitty Girl challenge. Shangela also did very well but not so well that she was the only possible winner with Ben gone.
Which I'll never understand. Shangela was robbed ( ben sent herself home and even then her and shangela were the clear top 2) so after she left shangela was the clear winner. It was literally no other option besides maybe bebe! As3 is proof of over producing tarnishing the whole season. As3 could've been the best season if it didn't end the way it did.
My only qualm with this take is Shangela went the entire time talking about how she was making allies in the competition-but then was the most likely to start stuff and play games. The other girls weren’t impressed with Shangela’s whole thing about the note nor her jerking both Trixie and ChiChi around during the Snatch Game elimination among other things. She also simply didn’t play the gane well as she said she was
@@kirstynquinn6602 morgan Michaels, Kennedy davenport and shangela. Have all talked about Trixie. Kennedy even called her out a recent interview. Your going to use this dumb logic that a white twink made up? You sound idiotic and disgusting get over yourself. Stop being complicit.
@@kirstynquinn6602 Trixie made racist jokes about Latrice picking cotton, but your worried about Shangela making a speech that sounded like she was going to pick Trixie 🙄 go off
I Am Shangela Lover to,But Dude that lip Sync with Trix doing wrecking ball,She just owned it and really meant it while she lip synced and cried and looked like Sbe was begging almost and it was so Awesome cuz She was so shocked She won!
Ahhh yes, the internal conflict with All Stars of loving the drama and shocking eliminations but wanting the statistically best queen to win (Manila, Shangela, Pangina)
Tabbikatt is quickly becoming my favourite guest. The style of drag, the humour and Wit, and the general meaningful input. Plus just gives a really good vibe of im glad I'm here it's amazing and refreshing.
I freaking LOVE Tabbi!!! I think she’s so knowledgeable and fun to watch! Would definitely love to see her in the channel for often! Keep up the good content!!
Blu didn't beat Mo in that UK vs The World lipsync. She lost as soon as she did that crunchy dip and duckwalk. That said, there was no good prize and they needed a UK queen to crown so it makes sense that Blu won. That season was such a mess.
I think that Chad could’ve won both of her seasons. She’s damn near perfect! And, All Stars 2 had a cast FULL of winners!! Anyone of them could’ve won any other season. ❤️
Not to be the one. But I find it funny weird how Mera discredits Trixie’s win by saying “she didn’t do the best, and it wasn’t her season to win”, which is fair because she didn’t do the best and it felt more like Shangelas storyline, but skip to Kylie and Meras like “she just did so well and was so consistent every week, she could’ve won so many more if it was a top two”. She was high twice and won one challenge. And had the worst track record out of the 4 queens, and Rajah had way more of an arc. Anyways that’s just my two cents, still upset Rajah didn’t win the crown Ig lmao. Rajah’s my Shangela
I think it would’ve been fine to have the queens vote as long as that was made clear from the very beginning of the season and the queens were there to watch the challenges, the biggest problem is that queens like Shangela for example were not playing the game in a way to be prepared for that.
This might be a controversial take, but I think RuPaul anticipated a lot of backlash for crowning anyone other than Ben in AS3. Given how fond he is of Shangela, he didn't want her to take the brunt of it. Nor the S1 winner Bebe. Nor Kennedy who'd had a hard time with the fandom. This leaves Trixie -- an undeniable superstar in the real world, that could handle any backlash and continue making WOW a lot of money. (Yes we had the jury, but Ru and the producers knew damn well that Trixie would be voted by her competitors)
It’s really true though. Ben was almost clearly the winner of the season but she eliminated herself. They all knew that the finale would be soured because of Ben’s self elimination. It really makes sense considering that there’s really no other reason to have a jury besides using them to nominate Trixie and not Shangela. At the end of the day, if Shangela was crowned we’d still wish Ben won instead. At least this way if they had it to be soured let’s give that to the most resilient queen probably in drag race history
The explanation I'd heard was that the jury twist was to avoid either double-crowning Bebe, or risk having a winner's win invalidated because when she made the finale again but this time production didn't choose her. It seemed plausible to me idk
Again, the problem with AS7 is that the changed the rules to justify Jinkx winning. Based of the rules established episode 1, Monet should’ve won. Like Imagine if the final challenge to secure the crown was a sewing challenge…and Ru said, despite her garment being terrible, that Jinkx won…just because she did well the whole season (even though she’s been saying since the first episode that the final challenge determines the winner). Like yes the fandom would lose their shit, but changing the rules just to suit the fandom, when it screws over the Queens, is bullshit. Anyone to soft to accept a Monet win, BASED OF OFF THE RULES ESTABLISHED in the first episode, is a weak ass bitch. But changing the rules to suit the toxic fandom is worse.
Meh, some of them were the same bodysuits , with different makeup and wigs. For a big girl she never looks busted on the runway though and she definitely aside from Maybe latrice Royale (who has served a few crunchy old school gowns) I think out of all the big girls Eureka and Latrice know their bodies and how to work with them the best. Neither ever look a mess.
I think everyone had such a visceral reaction to the AS7 because it didn't feel like a fair ending. Jinkx slayed the season but a lip sync for the crown it was not.They just should have found a better way to end it because Jinkx deserved to win the season but based on the whole point of the season it doesn't feel like she won. Also it left a bad taste for other winners who are saying they don't want to go back and that sucks more than the outcome of that lip sync 🤣🤣🤣
To add salt to the wound with that "She already dona had hereses" tournament and how obviously rigged that final battle between Raja and Yvie were. Yvie literally dominated that lip sync but somehow Raja still won. I understand that they are legends, but give us a better send off than this. Its obviously a forced narrative without ever giving us an actual good journey on that last episode.
I think monét shouldve won the trl and acting challenge on as7 and i think it wouldve been kind kf difficult to not crown her after her and jinkx have the most wins and monet wins the lipsync but i was rooting for them bkth from the start and think jinkx deserved her crown
The only reason Shea won AS5 is because the judges chose her as the winner from episode 1 even though she did the worst out of the top 3. Talk about riggory lmao
I'm gonna be the devil's advocate about all stars 3 and say the jury twist could've worked if they gave a better reasoning on why Shangela didn't deserve to be in the final lip sync, Alot of the girls of that season stated that Shangela irked them and upsetted them with her behavior but the editing never showed that, all they showed was that the jury was bitter with Shangela eliminating/winning therefore giving Shangela sympathy from the viewers. I mean they weren't afraid to show Alaska as a brat on All Stars 2, why hide it with Shangela. It could've saved Kennedy and Trixie from all the hate for getting into the Finale.
Dont know why Roxxxy has the name of being in the bottom the most….? She literally murdered season 5 and I have no doubt if she came back for another season she would absolutely murder that too. when Jujubee was in the bottom like 4 times on Season 2, in the bottom every episode after the first episode of All Stars 1, bottom 3 times on All Stars 5 and literally in the bottom almost the entire season on UK vs World lol so strange how people label her as amazing at Drag Race shes as favoured as much as any other queen who you accuse of being
Yes we agree Shangela deserve AS3. I'm just wondering, when we do take the peer vote into consideration, did Trixie deserve it more than Kennedy? I just realized we really don't mention Kennedy in this conversation that much
Because Kennedy bombed AS3, Trixie's run disappointed her fans but she got two wins and a few bottom placements were kind of like Kylie Soniques , she was just in the btm because she didn't win . But her run disappointed her fans but it wasn't abysmal like Kennedys run , she was always in the bottom aside from the first and third episodes I believe. But if the girls had to vote they'd have put Kennedy over Trixie had Shangela been automatically moved to the top 2. It was proven with the votes anyhow .
Tabbi Katt is definitly my favourite guest on the Mangled Morning (considering Scarlett as more of a co-host) ! She always has clever things to say and she's so lovable
You give Jujubee way too much credit for All Stars 5. I remember that three in one look she did, everything was straight off the rack. Many of her looks are inconsistent and just not always at a high enough level compared to some other queens, I'd have put Miz Cracker before her in ranking honestly. Don't get me wrong Jujubee is great at what she does, though that's everything but fashion/runway looks.
I think why they picked Monet over Mo on All Stars 4 is Monet did better in the finale while Mo did not do good in the finale. But Mo had a better track record then Monet. Like Mo had more highs while Monet was low or in the bottom more
Honestly, Ginger Minj is one of THE best competitors the franchise has ever seen and the fact she’s competed three times without winning is insane. Eureka too, tbh. It really goes to show how much of an uphill battle the show is for plus sized queens.
I think you are 100% correct for Ginger, but saying the reason Eureka hasn't won is that she is plus-sized is just false. The fans and judges have recognized how stunning Eureka is from makeup skills to outfits to "proportionizing." She hasn't won because both times she has been in the finale she was easily seen as the most controversial or disliked because of her often problematic actions and statements mostly during and after season 10.
Miss Tabbi had me cracking up when she was trying not to shade Trixies aesthetic . Its alright girl, I dont think she's funny either but she knows her damn brand !
I think the lip sync for the crown should be abolished from All stars because they already lipsync for their wins throughout the season, that's pretty tiring, I wish they would do the season 12 finale format where they shoot a music video lipsync of their own, showing their charisma, talent and uniqueness more than in just a regular lipsync
Imo Eureka didn't cause her story is too spotty never spectacular or electrical but she compliments her competition very well. Ginger didn't cause her story is solid its good and great for tv but all ways feels over rehearsed and feels like a great story for tv. And her runways aren't good enough
UKVW is a great season. PERIOD. the finish was lame like s7 but all the girls felt rushed and FULLY AS1'd...they got that treatment. Rushed very rushed. They specifically chose a group of girls that were going to give it there all NO MATTER WHAT. Lemon shouldn't have been on. Idk she didn't deserve what she got but everyone else kinda feels in on it. All the girls new it was gonna be some bullshit so we're just gonna put on a good show. Damn near a pr stunt.
Yeah Monet won the last Lipsync. But Trinity won the So What Lipsync against Monet. So it doesn't matter. For me Trinity should be AS4 Winner and Monet runner up. But Twinners are great, they both deserve it. For me Ginger should've won AS6.
Mera: we both look rich. Me: that is 100% correct but, you both look rich in a different way, Tabbi looks like the black widow woman, who is on her third marriage because the other two mysteriously died, where as Mera looks like she’s the born rich girl, who you’d think is a bitch but is the sweetest person you’ll ever meet.
If there were an All Judges season I picture the top three as Stacey Mckenzie, Pangina Heals (winner), and Carson Kressley (lipsync Assassin). And Rupaul as the first out.
stacy would probably be the returning queen (veronica green style)
The top 3 would be Pangina, Supremme and Nicky Doll. The first out would be Michelle Visage lipsyncing against RuPaul
The Shade hahaha
Love it so much
@@ticodendron1 Nicky? 🤨
Carson?!!! How could he lip sync with a walking frame? 🤣
''Chad is about to die, so Ru gave that crown to her'' immediately came to my mind.
*so ru probably wanted him to be happy
Thank you both so much for your examination of Jinkx's AS7 win. Very loud portions of the fandom have been absolutely shitting on her lately and I don't think that's fair. Did she lose more lipsyncs than she won? Yes. Did she obliterate almost every challenge? Yes. Did Monet win that final lipsync? Yes. Did Jinkx still deserve the crown? Yes.
Agreed on all counts. The problem was with the format, not the result.
The reason people are upset is because the format was stated from the beginning, it's not about the number of wins you get as long as you make it to the top 4. From there, you have to win the lip syncs to win the crown. Then suddenly at the end they changed the rules, in an ADR snippet of Ru claiming that now it was based on the entire competition. It took away the purpose of the stars and the entire lip sync lalaparuza. Jinkx deserves absolutely none of the hate because the decision wasn't hers to make, but to say she deserved the crown with the rules they established is a little funny to me, considering Monet had 5 stars and also won the final lip sync.
The only people who should care about lip syncs on who is the best drag queen are people whose only exposure to drag is the show and have been forced fed the idea that lip sync is what all drag queens do that they kept repeating ad nauseam in the early seasons.
@@Ryan-yp4fc Monet only had 5 stars because she won 3 at once -- more rule twisting to change placements.
Jinkx won the season… The producers should never have done the lip sync battle for an all winners season. I don’t like it for any season tbh. It puts too much emphasis on one singular element of drag.
UK vs the World was a crazy season…… My Top 4 would have been Blu, Pangina, Janey and Jimbo. It seems crazy to talk about why Mo, Juju and Baga didn’t win, because none of them should even have been in the final based on what they showed during the season.
Yes it should have been Blu, Jimbo, Janey and Pangina . Jimbo and Blu would get wrecked in any lipsync aside from against eachother.
Mo was incredible
Babe janey should have gone home ep 1 she was BY FAR the worst in the talent show😂 call mistress for the drag delusion.Also yeah pangina would slay those hoez
I'm loving miss tabbi, we needed representation for old people (shade noise) JK ❤️ love yall
I love Tabbi Kat!!! She’s so fun! I would definitely love to go to St. Louis to see a “Mangled Morning” drag show with all the girls on the channel!! 🤍🤍🤍
👆 That
I want a runner up/finalist all stars so badly! I can’t imagine Courtney Act (if things patched up with wow) Brook Lynn Hytes, Lady Camden, Asia O’Hara, Gigi Goode etc all on ONE season of all stars!!!! That would be sickening!!!! I just realized this is also an excuse to have Jujubee on another season! Especially if they brought Raven back it would be so cool but I doubt either of them will come back
Peppermint, Kennedy davenport, Mo heart, Naomi , Shangela and Raven.
Jujubee would be first out. She was in the bottom like 4 times on Season 2, the bottom every challenge on All Stars 1 after episode one and then on UK vs World was in the bottom 3 episodes in a row. And Roxxxy Andrews gets soo much hate for being in the bottom on one of the hardest seasons lol
I want to throw Katya into the ring (I think she did better than Alaska in most challenges and lipsyncs), but she will NEVER do Drag Race again.
@@ccdaly2561 Honestly I feel like Katya could be coaxed back in if it was an AS7-style season. she could do whatever she wanted and the viewers would eat it up. The producers wouldn't dare give one of the top fan favorites of all time a bad edit, so at worst she would just have a role similar to Yvie oddly in AS7.
@@JRCody-ds3ec that would involve being sequestered, and doing challenges, and being ON every time the camera is rolling, and by her own admission, she barely leaves the house unless Trixie makes her do so and a paycheck is attached. Which I think is GREAT for her. She overextended herself after AS2 and had that extended relapse, and she's doing so much better now by kinda not doing anything unless she has to. Her exact words, "I don't WANT to work anymore".
She turned down lipsync assassin twice. She doesn't want to come back.
I’ve been loving Tabbi and her commentary this week. I hope we get to see more of her
tabbi kat is a GREAT guest for the channel! maybe my favorite guest!
20:24 Based on what we feel: Yes. But let's not forget that Baga Chipz has the exact same track record as Blu Hydrangea - not just overall but in the exact same episodes as well. Mo had the same too except one Low instead of a Safe, and Jujubee had arguibly the worst with three bottom placements, one Safe and one win. Both Jimbo and Pangina had better track records - even at the time of their elimination because they got two wins each and Pangina has one more High.
The difference is that everytime Blu was safe she SHOULD have been high and whenever Baga was safe she was clear bottom/low material. Even the last bottom2 placement… anyone with eyes and ears know that Blu should have been in the top over Jujubee but they needed to give her the win. The placement this season were just… weird
Great cast, horrible execution. Hate to say it but pangina did it to herself. Baga was underwhelming most of the season. Blu served each week on the runway and in the challenges . She deserved a few more high placements and her only bottom was because whoever wasn't in the top was in the bottom
An All Stars with only finalist would be amazing
Well, that was basically AS2 🤷🏼♀️
The few that weren't technically finalists were all at least top 5-6
@@doperagu8471 but that wasn't the theme. That's what they are saying..not the semantics of it.
Tons of amazing queens to pick from as well.(of the ones that do drag still/are on good terms with WOW)
Still half the cast weren’t finalists. Detox and Katya became finalists that season, but then along with Tati, Alyssa and Coco still weren’t finalists.
Tabby seems like the cool mom that picks you up after school after your mom gets stuck working late at the office
Mera, thanks for being funny, smart, and thoughtful. You also have wonderful co-hosts. Thank you for bringing me joy since I discovered you last year. xoxo
Tabbi is such an amazing cohost , just had to throw that out there. Love ya gals!
To me it’s just starting to feel like Mera doesn’t like Miz Cracker because in the few times that she has spoken about her on this channel it’s never with any amusement like she does with other Queens. To say that you would’ve had a Shea Jujubee double win when Miz Cracker dominated the entire season and the only thing that stopped her from winning was Shea’s storyline is kind of baffling to me 😂. On one hand you’re like “oh Alaska didn’t have the emotional storyline of season 2 but she dominated the season so she deserved to win” and on the other and you’re like “well Miz Cracker dominated the season but she didn’t have the emotional storyline so I didn’t want her to win” it’s very grasping at straws, just say you don’t like her sis 💀
or maybe she just doesn't think cracker should have won?? like thousands of ppl do?? lmao
@@coreycunningham. that’s why I said to me right? Move along bug
in the words of Bob the drag queen "Drag her."
its really not that deep lol
Is no one going to talk about Miz Cracker having TWO chances to give Shea the boot? And, she didn't do it. Miz Cracker likely already knew at top 5 that she probably wouldn't beat Shea, but sending Shea packing would destroy MC's popularity, so she was trying to preserve her career at that point and hoping that Shea would slip.
I feel like where they went wrong on All Stars 3 with the Jury vote twist is having them pick BOTH finalists. It should have been they choose one and THE Judges choose one. That would've made the twist less hated on and then it would've been Trixie and Shangela as the final two. Shangela then would've won rightfully so. I'm a huge Trixie fan, but Shangela slayed as everyone knows.
it actually would've been kennedy vs shangela. kennedy got the most jury votes. though shangie still would've ate that shit up lol
love kylie but rajah was way more consistant, rajah was in the top more, and in the bottom less than kylie
I think Trixie was a deserving winner of AS3, she did very well the entire season with the exception of snatch game and there were other episodes were she easily could have been top 2 like the Bitchelor and the Kitty Girl challenge. Shangela also did very well but not so well that she was the only possible winner with Ben gone.
Shangela lost because of a bitter jury. Period. That's the only reason why.
Which I'll never understand. Shangela was robbed ( ben sent herself home and even then her and shangela were the clear top 2) so after she left shangela was the clear winner. It was literally no other option besides maybe bebe! As3 is proof of over producing tarnishing the whole season. As3 could've been the best season if it didn't end the way it did.
My only qualm with this take is Shangela went the entire time talking about how she was making allies in the competition-but then was the most likely to start stuff and play games. The other girls weren’t impressed with Shangela’s whole thing about the note nor her jerking both Trixie and ChiChi around during the Snatch Game elimination among other things. She also simply didn’t play the gane well as she said she was
@@kirstynquinn6602 morgan Michaels, Kennedy davenport and shangela. Have all talked about Trixie. Kennedy even called her out a recent interview. Your going to use this dumb logic that a white twink made up? You sound idiotic and disgusting get over yourself. Stop being complicit.
@@kirstynquinn6602 Trixie made racist jokes about Latrice picking cotton, but your worried about Shangela making a speech that sounded like she was going to pick Trixie 🙄 go off
@@567Seviper Huh? My whole point was that Shangela made it seem like she was playing a social game and failed in that respect
I Am Shangela Lover to,But Dude that lip Sync with Trix doing wrecking ball,She just owned it and really meant it while she lip synced and cried and looked like Sbe was begging almost and it was so Awesome cuz She was so shocked She won!
I feel Kennedy won that lip sync…
Ahhh yes, the internal conflict with All Stars of loving the drama and shocking eliminations but wanting the statistically best queen to win (Manila, Shangela, Pangina)
Tabbikatt is quickly becoming my favourite guest. The style of drag, the humour and Wit, and the general meaningful input. Plus just gives a really good vibe of im glad I'm here it's amazing and refreshing.
I love Tabbi as a guest!! I feel like she always has such good insights!
I cant get enough of Tabbi, she is the perfect co-host.
Could you do the same video but with regular seasons and the International seasons?
In my opinion blu was the only queen in the finale who stood out all season and did well every challenge so they kinda had to crown her
Come on all stars finalists let’s get sickening
Okurrrrrrr
I freaking LOVE Tabbi!!! I think she’s so knowledgeable and fun to watch! Would definitely love to see her in the channel for often! Keep up the good content!!
Blu didn't beat Mo in that UK vs The World lipsync. She lost as soon as she did that crunchy dip and duckwalk. That said, there was no good prize and they needed a UK queen to crown so it makes sense that Blu won. That season was such a mess.
That duckwalk lives in my nightmares. Looks like a straight drunk guy was trying his best goosewalk.
I think that Chad could’ve won both of her seasons. She’s damn near perfect! And, All Stars 2 had a cast FULL of winners!! Anyone of them could’ve won any other season. ❤️
Not to be the one. But I find it funny weird how Mera discredits Trixie’s win by saying “she didn’t do the best, and it wasn’t her season to win”, which is fair because she didn’t do the best and it felt more like Shangelas storyline, but skip to Kylie and Meras like “she just did so well and was so consistent every week, she could’ve won so many more if it was a top two”. She was high twice and won one challenge. And had the worst track record out of the 4 queens, and Rajah had way more of an arc. Anyways that’s just my two cents, still upset Rajah didn’t win the crown Ig lmao. Rajah’s my Shangela
I think it would’ve been fine to have the queens vote as long as that was made clear from the very beginning of the season and the queens were there to watch the challenges, the biggest problem is that queens like Shangela for example were not playing the game in a way to be prepared for that.
This might be a controversial take, but I think RuPaul anticipated a lot of backlash for crowning anyone other than Ben in AS3. Given how fond he is of Shangela, he didn't want her to take the brunt of it. Nor the S1 winner Bebe. Nor Kennedy who'd had a hard time with the fandom. This leaves Trixie -- an undeniable superstar in the real world, that could handle any backlash and continue making WOW a lot of money.
(Yes we had the jury, but Ru and the producers knew damn well that Trixie would be voted by her competitors)
damn i never thought of that before. mind blown
It’s really true though. Ben was almost clearly the winner of the season but she eliminated herself. They all knew that the finale would be soured because of Ben’s self elimination. It really makes sense considering that there’s really no other reason to have a jury besides using them to nominate Trixie and not Shangela. At the end of the day, if Shangela was crowned we’d still wish Ben won instead. At least this way if they had it to be soured let’s give that to the most resilient queen probably in drag race history
The explanation I'd heard was that the jury twist was to avoid either double-crowning Bebe, or risk having a winner's win invalidated because when she made the finale again but this time production didn't choose her. It seemed plausible to me idk
I like Tabbikatt. Her narration is v clear
Actually, Bendelacreme should've won AS3 -- it was a ridiculous position they put her in to send home a queen from a team challenge.
in re: MISSOURI queens, Widow should have made the finale!! I don't believe in "robbed queens" but I do stan Widow Von'du 💋
missouri?
she's a domestic abuser so don't stan her lol
Sadly this video didn’t talk about that much about Trinity the tuck which she is doing so well on both season.
Again, the problem with AS7 is that the changed the rules to justify Jinkx winning. Based of the rules established episode 1, Monet should’ve won. Like Imagine if the final challenge to secure the crown was a sewing challenge…and Ru said, despite her garment being terrible, that Jinkx won…just because she did well the whole season (even though she’s been saying since the first episode that the final challenge determines the winner). Like yes the fandom would lose their shit, but changing the rules just to suit the fandom, when it screws over the Queens, is bullshit. Anyone to soft to accept a Monet win, BASED OF OFF THE RULES ESTABLISHED in the first episode, is a weak ass bitch. But changing the rules to suit the toxic fandom is worse.
No I and many others wouldnt except it, couse trinity won the lipsynxh against monet
@@ChrolliForever No she didn’t. You liked it better but she didn’t beat her.
I’m loving Tabbi on this show. ❤️
Mera thinks Kylie was the most consistent among the top 4 of all stars 6? well, okay.
Still think it was rigga morris having all 3 of Rolaskatox on one AS season
Re: Eureka on all stars. Some of her looks should have won her more episodes. How she gets into her looks at her size is just incredible.
last sentence sounds backhanded 😬
Meh, some of them were the same bodysuits , with different makeup and wigs. For a big girl she never looks busted on the runway though and she definitely aside from Maybe latrice Royale (who has served a few crunchy old school gowns) I think out of all the big girls Eureka and Latrice know their bodies and how to work with them the best. Neither ever look a mess.
Yes Tabbi❤️❤️
While Shea deserved to win, so did Miz Cracker. If it was a double win it should have been shea and cracker. I just dont get the miz cracker erasure
I think everyone had such a visceral reaction to the AS7 because it didn't feel like a fair ending. Jinkx slayed the season but a lip sync for the crown it was not.They just should have found a better way to end it because Jinkx deserved to win the season but based on the whole point of the season it doesn't feel like she won. Also it left a bad taste for other winners who are saying they don't want to go back and that sucks more than the outcome of that lip sync 🤣🤣🤣
To add salt to the wound with that "She already dona had hereses" tournament and how obviously rigged that final battle between Raja and Yvie were. Yvie literally dominated that lip sync but somehow Raja still won. I understand that they are legends, but give us a better send off than this. Its obviously a forced narrative without ever giving us an actual good journey on that last episode.
You both look "Rich!", like Blair and Mayhem in the Resort challenge from All Stars 5.
I think monét shouldve won the trl and acting challenge on as7 and i think it wouldve been kind kf difficult to not crown her after her and jinkx have the most wins and monet wins the lipsync but i was rooting for them bkth from the start and think jinkx deserved her crown
i wholeheartedly agree with you. monet would have 5 wins too though typing with jinkx.
the death becomes her comment was so accurate lol
The only reason Shea won AS5 is because the judges chose her as the winner from episode 1 even though she did the worst out of the top 3. Talk about riggory lmao
Jujubee - the Susan Lucci of drag
I feel like Eureka also got a good Rudemption on AS6 as well.
I think it would be great if u made a video ranking cities based on how successful their queens were on drag race
I'm gonna be the devil's advocate about all stars 3 and say the jury twist could've worked if they gave a better reasoning on why Shangela didn't deserve to be in the final lip sync, Alot of the girls of that season stated that Shangela irked them and upsetted them with her behavior but the editing never showed that, all they showed was that the jury was bitter with Shangela eliminating/winning therefore giving Shangela sympathy from the viewers. I mean they weren't afraid to show Alaska as a brat on All Stars 2, why hide it with Shangela. It could've saved Kennedy and Trixie from all the hate for getting into the Finale.
Loving the videos feat Tabbi!! Keep em coming
Katya and Trixie's are my top two queens!!💋💋 their UA-cam shows are great!!!
I wanted Ra'Jah O'Hara to win AS6 soooo much
Dont know why Roxxxy has the name of being in the bottom the most….? She literally murdered season 5 and I have no doubt if she came back for another season she would absolutely murder that too. when Jujubee was in the bottom like 4 times on Season 2, in the bottom every episode after the first episode of All Stars 1, bottom 3 times on All Stars 5 and literally in the bottom almost the entire season on UK vs World lol so strange how people label her as amazing at Drag Race shes as favoured as much as any other queen who you accuse of being
Will Alaska ever be asked to come back to compete or is she on the do not ask list?
😆 🤣
I just can never agree that Shangela was robbed because by the time the finale happened, Ben already had the crown and left the building with it.
Yes we agree Shangela deserve AS3. I'm just wondering, when we do take the peer vote into consideration, did Trixie deserve it more than Kennedy?
I just realized we really don't mention Kennedy in this conversation that much
Because Kennedy bombed AS3, Trixie's run disappointed her fans but she got two wins and a few bottom placements were kind of like Kylie Soniques , she was just in the btm because she didn't win . But her run disappointed her fans but it wasn't abysmal like Kennedys run , she was always in the bottom aside from the first and third episodes I believe. But if the girls had to vote they'd have put Kennedy over Trixie had Shangela been automatically moved to the top 2. It was proven with the votes anyhow .
Mera is a Trixie hater. She even had the pops of everyone in the back including a non Ru girl, yet does not have Trixie
Tabbi Katt is definitly my favourite guest on the Mangled Morning (considering Scarlett as more of a co-host) ! She always has clever things to say and she's so lovable
i love tabi shes so sweet and welcoming... just brings joy to hear and see her
I love Tabbi!
You give Jujubee way too much credit for All Stars 5. I remember that three in one look she did, everything was straight off the rack. Many of her looks are inconsistent and just not always at a high enough level compared to some other queens, I'd have put Miz Cracker before her in ranking honestly. Don't get me wrong Jujubee is great at what she does, though that's everything but fashion/runway looks.
C’mon good topics!
Thanks for yalls time and work! Also, y’all look stunning 💖
I think why they picked Monet over Mo on All Stars 4 is Monet did better in the finale while Mo did not do good in the finale. But Mo had a better track record then Monet. Like Mo had more highs while Monet was low or in the bottom more
Honestly, Ginger Minj is one of THE best competitors the franchise has ever seen and the fact she’s competed three times without winning is insane. Eureka too, tbh. It really goes to show how much of an uphill battle the show is for plus sized queens.
I think you are 100% correct for Ginger, but saying the reason Eureka hasn't won is that she is plus-sized is just false. The fans and judges have recognized how stunning Eureka is from makeup skills to outfits to "proportionizing." She hasn't won because both times she has been in the finale she was easily seen as the most controversial or disliked because of her often problematic actions and statements mostly during and after season 10.
Tabbi did the clap! congratulations :O
Please make a video ranking drag race winners in list of most controversial wins to least
Roxxxy Andrews is a bully, mean girl imo. I don't see how she got a redemption from her 1st season. She was still hateful.
Sweepstakes is what you were looking for Mera
Mera, are you gonna react to the premiere of Philippines? the talents were so crazy, I wanna see your reaction 😆
WHERE DO GET THE LIPSTICKS FROM ALL STARS????
She is Tabulous
Mera really out here showing the world the cookies.
A contest to be fan guest judge would be awesome!!! And popular queens from e at races.
Miss Tabbi had me cracking up when she was trying not to shade Trixies aesthetic . Its alright girl, I dont think she's funny either but she knows her damn brand !
I like all of the co hosts but I’m really truly loving Tabbi Kat. One cause I love the name and she’s just so good as a co host.
I’m not believing Mera being over it, about Shangela not winning s3.
I’m not, the world would never be.
#bringbackShangela
What a fun and amazing guest!
I hope Ginger Minj gets a kickback anytime someone talks about flooded basements. lol
can we talk about how beautiful tabbi’s makeup is wow
Not a video mentioning Shannel in these troubling times !
I think the lip sync for the crown should be abolished from All stars because they already lipsync for their wins throughout the season, that's pretty tiring, I wish they would do the season 12 finale format where they shoot a music video lipsync of their own, showing their charisma, talent and uniqueness more than in just a regular lipsync
Imo Eureka didn't cause her story is too spotty never spectacular or electrical but she compliments her competition very well. Ginger didn't cause her story is solid its good and great for tv but all ways feels over rehearsed and feels like a great story for tv. And her runways aren't good enough
UKVW is a great season. PERIOD. the finish was lame like s7 but all the girls felt rushed and FULLY AS1'd...they got that treatment. Rushed very rushed. They specifically chose a group of girls that were going to give it there all NO MATTER WHAT. Lemon shouldn't have been on. Idk she didn't deserve what she got but everyone else kinda feels in on it. All the girls new it was gonna be some bullshit so we're just gonna put on a good show. Damn near a pr stunt.
Yeah Monet won the last Lipsync. But Trinity won the So What Lipsync against Monet. So it doesn't matter. For me Trinity should be AS4 Winner and Monet runner up. But Twinners are great, they both deserve it. For me Ginger should've won AS6.
What a touching segment about kennedy davenport 💚💚
She came 2nd and still doesn’t get the love she deserves
Mera: we both look rich.
Me: that is 100% correct but, you both look rich in a different way, Tabbi looks like the black widow woman, who is on her third marriage because the other two mysteriously died, where as Mera looks like she’s the born rich girl, who you’d think is a bitch but is the sweetest person you’ll ever meet.
I'm a Trixie stan and I still feel like Shangela was robbed, if not the crown then at least the opportunity to lip sync for the crown.
I think Mera was living in a delusion saying she was over the Shangela thing 😂😂😂
12:01 One of the biggest lies ever told on this channel😂
Ra’jah should have won fr like that tuck and roll wasn't really a gag
Raven has her own show is cool!! Doing Ru's make up!!!
Raven makes wayyyyy more than the prislze money every Season!
omg I love tabbi ! ❤️
You two look amazing!! But mera, I don’t like your platinum (gold) cheese grater belt :( I’m lactose intolerant
I didn’t enjoy sheas story on As5 it’s an amazing story, but over saturated on the season
Yall didn't say a word about Kennedy 🤣😭
Trixie didn't win shangela did