“You usually suck at games-cause they’re fun” is some great, heavily laced undertone. They both mock one another and yet mutually respect one another as the episodes continue.
Obviously hope’s blood would be the one used in the school’s first aid kits lol her blood is almost a cure all 😂😂, it heals in general, it heals vamps from werewolf bites, it heals all from Malivore bullets. At this point, her blood is the blood with the most healing abilities they have in the entire school. Of course they’d use it to stock their medical kits.
i swear they always saying sire bond is 1 in a million but how come its so convenient that it fits perfectly with the story line... like always the main characters - its so weird
Well hope is the only tribrid in existence so I’m not surprised that a vampire turned by her would be included in that one in a million thing, also when she turns wolves into hybrids they also have a sire bond so why would Lizzie not have one if she is a heretic. If she turned a regular human into a vamp then it’s less likely they’d have a sire bond but if it’s a hybrid then it’s probably very likely. HalfWolf/HalfVamp : HalfWitch/HalfVamp
@@MarySanchez-zl1sg hybrids are sirebonded because they feel grateful for not having to turn every full moon. when vampires have a sire bond it's due to having strong emotions as a human being magnified as a vampire, so i'm willing to bet that lizzie's bond is more along the lines of her emotions than because she's a heretic, all the other heretics weren't bonded to whoever sired them.
@@polaroized its already explained, when she turned she lost her twin connection josie. And she needed another connection, thats why she needed to connect hope.
@@erenakay8873 that wasn’t an explanation, that was her just talking with Hope about how she needs a connection, she never even knew a sire bond would affect her, she didn’t know who’s blood she drank to be a vampire in the first place, and the sire bonded doesn’t even work that way!
Now the real question is, is the sirebond like damon and elena kind of sirebond or is it like klaus and Tyler kind of sirebond? Because in Damon's and Elena's situation Elena was sired to Damon because she fell in love with him when she was a human and because she was turned by his blood and the sirebond in their situation worked in a way where Damon would say something to Elena and she would think that that was the right thing to do she still had no choice in the matter but she thought what he said was true and right whereas in the klaus and Tyler sirebond Tyler has knowledge that the things Klaus said where wrong but he had no choice but to do them. Honestly idk which situation could this be because it's a mix of both..
Well from what what we've seen of the sire bond between Hope and Lizzie so far I think that it's more like the sire bond between Klaus and Tyler. Because Lizzie doesn't want to do whatever Hope says but she has no choice but to obey. Besides as far as we have been shown in the past three seasons Lizzie has never shown any romantic feelings towards Hope at all. But then again they've also did have a love-hate frenemy type of relationship between them so I guess it could be both.
I want to say Damon and Elena because the sire bond that Klaus and Hope have with werewolves happens because they too are half/quarter werewolf but Lizzie is not one. Lizzie and Hope's bond is likely based off emotion but that doesn't really make sense because as JC Miller said they don't have the kind of love towards each other that creates that kind of bond. On the other hand it could be because Lizzie secretly feels gratitude to Hope for turning her because she and Josie don't have to do the merge anymore and has effectively saved both of their lives.
@Krisynthia Gomez Yeah that’s what I thought to, she’s grateful cause of the merge issue being solved. Or possibly she’s grateful to Hope because she doesn’t have to siphon magic from another source to perform magic now, she can do it at will. Maybe it’s cause of that or possibly both.
The thing is, is that the Klaus/Tyler and the Hope/Henry sire bond is because Tyler and Henry were Werewolves and they freed them from the pain of turning on the full moon. So they feel like they owe them for it. Not to mention Tyler only starts not wanting to do what Klaus tells him after Jeremy almost gets run over that's when he starts wavering before he's like adamant about doing whatever Klaus wants and is happy to do so. With Damon/Elena sirebond it happened because Elena had feelings for Damon before she turned and Elena fights what Damon tells her to do at first, she tries to drink animal blood with Stefan and tries to drink from a blood bag. The sire bond prevents her from doing so. In both cases they have some semblance of loyalty and wanting to do what their sire wants but they also have free thinking about their actions. The main difference is that Vampire and Human = feelings, Hybrid and Wolf = Gratitude. Which means Lizzie has to fall into one of these 2 categories with Hope at least with established Lore (it is possible, she has so much underlying friendship love for Hope that, that caused the sire bond but I digress) but what does Lizzie have to be grateful to Hope for?
Yea same here but she has to they don't know how dangerous she is without her humanity but Alaric does he's seen first hand what happens when a vampire turns off their humanity and being a tribrid she is more deadly
I think the reason why she turned off her humanity is so that she would be more focused as the tribrid and not have to worry about the others plus with her humanity off she doesn't have to worry about how many people she killed
@@The_Memorial yea she does ion think she has. A sirelink what u are referring to and Lizzie is hope first vamp sire but Hayley is her first true sire Lizzie has a sire bond to hope meaning she had sum string feelings toward hood
Lizzie isn’t in love with MG. He’s such kid. I’m also not buying sisterly love either. I’m excited to see where the writers take Hizzie Plus if Lizzie can suddenly “fall” for MG after showing zero interest in him, she can fall for Hope.
So is this the normal vampire sire bond that happens to 1 in a million or is it some kind of loophole of the hybrid sire bond because while she isn't a werewolf hybrid, Lizzie is still technically a hybrid made with Hope's blood.
It’s the hybrid thing. It doesn’t matter what they’re called, heretics are hybrids, but not all witch/vamps are heretics because heretics were a coven and not a species
No, Klaus's sireline all hated him but were bound to protect him because there was an automatic sireline. Hope's blood made a hybrid in The Originals and he was immediately sired to her despite her not even being born
@@bookwormgirl1852 hybrid's also were sired because being hybrid kind of lifted their curse. They didn't have to turn every full moon. Elizabeth is also a hybrid. Now that she became a hybrid, she doesn't have to merge with her sister, and since it was Hope who break this curse for her, it makes sense that she is sired to her without having romantic feelings.
This is all pretty simple. In TVD it became known from Elaina and Damon and Tyler and Klaus had different sire bond origins. In order for someone to be sired for Elaina and Damon you had to be turned by their blood and have romantic human feelings for that person prior to turning. Tyler's sire bond was made out of gratitude and the orgin of the blood that turned him. Neither bonds dictated how they felt towards their sire. Tyler hated Klaus but he still obeyed him and Elaina discovered that her love for Damon was not because of the Sire bond but that she already loved him and her feelings were just heightened. Lizzie is not a hybrid as in wolf and vampire she turned into a heretic because she was a siphon witch now vampire like kai. Hope sired a boy from the end of the Originals series and he was then obedient to her, he was a wolf hence gratitude. When hope was in the womb she sired a test subject from the Originals series that was also a wolf so there is another gratitude turn and sire. Lizzie had to have loved Hope and then was turned or she is truly grateful the merge didn't have to happen now. I'm guessing she had love for hope and that is her origin.
@@olavihekandjo2928 still anyone who is sired can still die doesn't matter if their a original or not this was explained in the vampire dairies since lizzy is sired to hope she can still die if hope is killed cause she has the blood of an original running through her veins which makes her part original if you think it
As per the original storyline...any vampire created by the originals will be sired to them. If the original dies the entire line dies also. That's why they could kill Klaus before breaking the sire bond
So to be sired to someone you die with their blood in your system,it's like Elena she died with Damon's blood in her system and she became a vampire and she did anything Damon says to her,and now that Lizzie(Caroline's daughter)died with hopes blood in her system and she became a vampire she is now sired to Hope😱😱😱
This is a massive plot hole. The sire bond is RARE in vampires. It comes from feelings. The sire bond among werewolves was based off their gratitude to Klaus for not turning on full moons. The writers suck so hard lmao
Why does this sire bond seem so much different like this one seems more like a god damn slave pact where she literally can’t do no harm to hope and even protects her against her own will. The other wire bonds didn’t seem like that
Well the sire bond is also created when the vampire loved their sire before they turned. BUT we also know that any hybrid created with hopes blood is sired to her and Lizzie is technically hybrid so it could also be that. We also learned with klaus and his hybrids that you can hate your sire but still do everything they say. This sire bond could be taken so many ways and I'm excited to see what the writers have in store.
@@Its_bunniii Then what is it? Lizzie literally said to hope that "she was the bibrid to her tribrid" and a hybrid is a mix between 2 things. Therefore lizzie is a hybrid.
this story line actually makes no sense . hopes vampire blood shouldn’t have been activated until she became the tribrid. there was no time in between her becoming a hybrid and her shutting off her humanity for her to donate to the school. if she donated blood before it wouldn’t work cuz she wasn’t a vampire yet. writers gotta do better
Technically no, in the originals Tyler stabbed Hayley and took hopes blood and tested it by having a wolf drink it in human form and he turned into a vampire AND became sired to protect hope as a fetus, literally, also since she was born of a hybrid, thats a nature loophole, thats it lol
Hope has had vampire blood pumping through her veins since the moment she was conceived. If you’re been paying attention to the show, you’ll know that lizzie isn’t the first person she’s turned into a vampire and the school has been using her blood to heal its students (including werewolf bites) for quite some time before she became the tribrid
Her blood could make vampires even when she was in her mom's belly. When Hayley died she came back as a hybrid because she had Hope's blood inside, and she turned another werewolf in TO S5
Why would the school purposely use her blood, knowing damn well what could happen? And when did Lizzie have the time to drink it in the past 24 hours???
“You usually suck at games-cause they’re fun” is some great, heavily laced undertone. They both mock one another and yet mutually respect one another as the episodes continue.
Obviously hope’s blood would be the one used in the school’s first aid kits lol her blood is almost a cure all 😂😂, it heals in general, it heals vamps from werewolf bites, it heals all from Malivore bullets. At this point, her blood is the blood with the most healing abilities they have in the entire school. Of course they’d use it to stock their medical kits.
Can't it technically make hybrids too? Showed it could in the originals when Tyler kidnapped hayley
@@katebowers159 yea her blood can make hybrids without doppelgänger blood
i swear they always saying sire bond is 1 in a million but how come its so convenient that it fits perfectly with the story line... like always the main characters - its so weird
Well hope is the only tribrid in existence so I’m not surprised that a vampire turned by her would be included in that one in a million thing, also when she turns wolves into hybrids they also have a sire bond so why would Lizzie not have one if she is a heretic. If she turned a regular human into a vamp then it’s less likely they’d have a sire bond but if it’s a hybrid then it’s probably very likely. HalfWolf/HalfVamp : HalfWitch/HalfVamp
Hybrids seem to have a higher sire bond rate, all of Klaus's hybrids were sired to him. Looks like its the same with his daughter
@@MarySanchez-zl1sg hybrids are sirebonded because they feel grateful for not having to turn every full moon. when vampires have a sire bond it's due to having strong emotions as a human being magnified as a vampire, so i'm willing to bet that lizzie's bond is more along the lines of her emotions than because she's a heretic, all the other heretics weren't bonded to whoever sired them.
@@polaroized its already explained, when she turned she lost her twin connection josie. And she needed another connection, thats why she needed to connect hope.
@@erenakay8873 that wasn’t an explanation, that was her just talking with Hope about how she needs a connection, she never even knew a sire bond would affect her, she didn’t know who’s blood she drank to be a vampire in the first place, and the sire bonded doesn’t even work that way!
Now the real question is, is the sirebond like damon and elena kind of sirebond or is it like klaus and Tyler kind of sirebond? Because in Damon's and Elena's situation Elena was sired to Damon because she fell in love with him when she was a human and because she was turned by his blood and the sirebond in their situation worked in a way where Damon would say something to Elena and she would think that that was the right thing to do she still had no choice in the matter but she thought what he said was true and right whereas in the klaus and Tyler sirebond Tyler has knowledge that the things Klaus said where wrong but he had no choice but to do them. Honestly idk which situation could this be because it's a mix of both..
Well from what what we've seen of the sire bond between Hope and Lizzie so far I think that it's more like the sire bond between Klaus and Tyler. Because Lizzie doesn't want to do whatever Hope says but she has no choice but to obey. Besides as far as we have been shown in the past three seasons Lizzie has never shown any romantic feelings towards Hope at all. But then again they've also did have a love-hate frenemy type of relationship between them so I guess it could be both.
I want to say Damon and Elena because the sire bond that Klaus and Hope have with werewolves happens because they too are half/quarter werewolf but Lizzie is not one. Lizzie and Hope's bond is likely based off emotion but that doesn't really make sense because as JC Miller said they don't have the kind of love towards each other that creates that kind of bond. On the other hand it could be because Lizzie secretly feels gratitude to Hope for turning her because she and Josie don't have to do the merge anymore and has effectively saved both of their lives.
@Krisynthia Gomez
Yeah that’s what I thought to, she’s grateful cause of the merge issue being solved. Or possibly she’s grateful to Hope because she doesn’t have to siphon magic from another source to perform magic now, she can do it at will. Maybe it’s cause of that or possibly both.
I'd want to say a klaus and tyler kind
The thing is, is that the Klaus/Tyler and the Hope/Henry sire bond is because Tyler and Henry were Werewolves and they freed them from the pain of turning on the full moon. So they feel like they owe them for it. Not to mention Tyler only starts not wanting to do what Klaus tells him after Jeremy almost gets run over that's when he starts wavering before he's like adamant about doing whatever Klaus wants and is happy to do so. With Damon/Elena sirebond it happened because Elena had feelings for Damon before she turned and Elena fights what Damon tells her to do at first, she tries to drink animal blood with Stefan and tries to drink from a blood bag. The sire bond prevents her from doing so. In both cases they have some semblance of loyalty and wanting to do what their sire wants but they also have free thinking about their actions. The main difference is that Vampire and Human = feelings, Hybrid and Wolf = Gratitude. Which means Lizzie has to fall into one of these 2 categories with Hope at least with established Lore (it is possible, she has so much underlying friendship love for Hope that, that caused the sire bond but I digress) but what does Lizzie have to be grateful to Hope for?
This is the funniest irony I have ever got the opportunity to see
This is really getting exciting! 😍🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩 now it feels like LEGACIES
How do you think hope will get her humanity back
@@jessesweet9941 I like hope this way, so i dont want her to get back her humanity
Yea same here but she has to they don't know how dangerous she is without her humanity but Alaric does he's seen first hand what happens when a vampire turns off their humanity and being a tribrid she is more deadly
This why either she will be forced to turn on her humanity or Alaric talk sense into her and tell her this isn't who she is
I think the reason why she turned off her humanity is so that she would be more focused as the tribrid and not have to worry about the others plus with her humanity off she doesn't have to worry about how many people she killed
This mean she Hope first in her sireline
Hope doesnt have a sire line
She turned someone into a hybrid in the originals
@@The_Memorial yea she does ion think she has. A sirelink what u are referring to and Lizzie is hope first vamp sire but Hayley is her first true sire Lizzie has a sire bond to hope meaning she had sum string feelings toward hood
Lizzie is her first sireling after she became the tribrid, but not before
@@chrisjayasinghe9319 but in the originals hope didnt have a sireline even though the hybrids were sired to her.
a little disappointed lizzie didn't say son of a bitch in that last seen
She did say that in this episode and in the Jeanny episode :-)
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A sire bond can be broken just like the same way Davina broke off Klaus from his entire sire line .
If Lizzie had killed Hope, I wonder if she would’ve died as well cause of the sire link
Yeah she most likely would have, since Hope is an original
@@yakone1379 but if hope is an original does that mean that she can compel other vampires?
@@itssleticiaac yes bc they did in the originals
@@itssleticiaac In episode 11 Hope compelled another vampire so yes she can compel vampires
First off thats now how siring works for vampires
Wesley's is back 🤣
Lizzie isn’t in love with MG. He’s such kid. I’m also not buying sisterly love either. I’m excited to see where the writers take Hizzie
Plus if Lizzie can suddenly “fall” for MG after showing zero interest in him, she can fall for Hope.
Q Thomas • So basically if it's a heterosexual relationship in your eyes it's wrong?
You are nasty
Don't get your hopes up the writers never give us what we want
So is this the normal vampire sire bond that happens to 1 in a million or is it some kind of loophole of the hybrid sire bond because while she isn't a werewolf hybrid, Lizzie is still technically a hybrid made with Hope's blood.
It’s the hybrid thing. It doesn’t matter what they’re called, heretics are hybrids, but not all witch/vamps are heretics because heretics were a coven and not a species
Vampire can only get sire if they had feeling for their sire before they died (actual romantic human feelings).
No, Klaus's sireline all hated him but were bound to protect him because there was an automatic sireline. Hope's blood made a hybrid in The Originals and he was immediately sired to her despite her not even being born
@@bookwormgirl1852 hybrid's also were sired because being hybrid kind of lifted their curse. They didn't have to turn every full moon. Elizabeth is also a hybrid. Now that she became a hybrid, she doesn't have to merge with her sister, and since it was Hope who break this curse for her, it makes sense that she is sired to her without having romantic feelings.
This is all pretty simple. In TVD it became known from Elaina and Damon and Tyler and Klaus had different sire bond origins. In order for someone to be sired for Elaina and Damon you had to be turned by their blood and have romantic human feelings for that person prior to turning. Tyler's sire bond was made out of gratitude and the orgin of the blood that turned him. Neither bonds dictated how they felt towards their sire. Tyler hated Klaus but he still obeyed him and Elaina discovered that her love for Damon was not because of the Sire bond but that she already loved him and her feelings were just heightened. Lizzie is not a hybrid as in wolf and vampire she turned into a heretic because she was a siphon witch now vampire like kai. Hope sired a boy from the end of the Originals series and he was then obedient to her, he was a wolf hence gratitude. When hope was in the womb she sired a test subject from the Originals series that was also a wolf so there is another gratitude turn and sire. Lizzie had to have loved Hope and then was turned or she is truly grateful the merge didn't have to happen now. I'm guessing she had love for hope and that is her origin.
And it means the supersquad can not kill hope since lizzy is sired to her but I don't think they know that
Hope isn't an original.
@@olavihekandjo2928 still anyone who is sired can still die doesn't matter if their a original or not this was explained in the vampire dairies since lizzy is sired to hope she can still die if hope is killed cause she has the blood of an original running through her veins which makes her part original if you think it
Hope will go through the same thing Elena went through when her humanity comes back
@@olavihekandjo2928 but now that lizzie broke the sire bond it doesn't matter anymore
All lizzie has 2 do is turn her humanity off
And still get killed
@@cyeroyal2788 to undo the s bond
now this is interesting....the sire bond thing😃
If I don't get a Hope and Lizzie kiss, imma throw a hizzie fit 😝
yes yes yes
this show is hilarious.
As per the original storyline...any vampire created by the originals will be sired to them. If the original dies the entire line dies also. That's why they could kill Klaus before breaking the sire bond
It’s Wesley Wyndham Pryce!!!
So to be sired to someone you die with their blood in your system,it's like Elena she died with Damon's blood in her system and she became a vampire and she did anything Damon says to her,and now that Lizzie(Caroline's daughter)died with hopes blood in her system and she became a vampire she is now sired to Hope😱😱😱
This is a massive plot hole. The sire bond is RARE in vampires. It comes from feelings.
The sire bond among werewolves was based off their gratitude to Klaus for not turning on full moons.
The writers suck so hard lmao
it might be because lizzie is grateful to hope that she doesnt have to siphon for magic anymore
Not with hybrids. All hybrids are sire bonded with their sire. Its just rare with regular vamps
To be honest. It could be hopes Raw power affecting Lizzies Mind
Damn I need to catch up, is that Wesley?
Why does this sire bond seem so much different like this one seems more like a god damn slave pact where she literally can’t do no harm to hope and even protects her against her own will. The other wire bonds didn’t seem like that
Except there's only flaw with Lizze/Hope's sire bond. Lizzie is not grateful towards Hope. She literally tried to kill her on multiple occasions.
Well the sire bond is also created when the vampire loved their sire before they turned. BUT we also know that any hybrid created with hopes blood is sired to her and Lizzie is technically hybrid so it could also be that. We also learned with klaus and his hybrids that you can hate your sire but still do everything they say. This sire bond could be taken so many ways and I'm excited to see what the writers have in store.
@@beyourself8323 she absolutely is NOT a hybrid lmao
@@Its_bunniii technically she is a hybrid between a witch and a vampire which in this case the official term is heretic but she is still a hybrid.
@@beyourself8323 no, that’s not a hybrid.
@@Its_bunniii Then what is it? Lizzie literally said to hope that "she was the bibrid to her tribrid" and a hybrid is a mix between 2 things. Therefore lizzie is a hybrid.
this story line actually makes no sense . hopes vampire blood shouldn’t have been activated until she became the tribrid. there was no time in between her becoming a hybrid and her shutting off her humanity for her to donate to the school. if she donated blood before it wouldn’t work cuz she wasn’t a vampire yet. writers gotta do better
Technically no, in the originals Tyler stabbed Hayley and took hopes blood and tested it by having a wolf drink it in human form and he turned into a vampire AND became sired to protect hope as a fetus, literally, also since she was born of a hybrid, thats a nature loophole, thats it lol
Hope has had vampire blood pumping through her veins since the moment she was conceived. If you’re been paying attention to the show, you’ll know that lizzie isn’t the first person she’s turned into a vampire and the school has been using her blood to heal its students (including werewolf bites) for quite some time before she became the tribrid
Her blood could make vampires even when she was in her mom's belly. When Hayley died she came back as a hybrid because she had Hope's blood inside, and she turned another werewolf in TO S5
Why would the school purposely use her blood, knowing damn well what could happen? And when did Lizzie have the time to drink it in the past 24 hours???
When did Lizzie get hopes blood by accident
Wesley?
Wouldn't that make Lizzie a tribrid also? Witch, Werewolf, and Vampire....
She’s not a werewolf
Why is she sired to her
either because lizzie has feelings for hope, or because she's grateful to hope now that she can wield magic without having to siphon a source
Oh ok?!!?.
Lmao I never watch I legacies I think it’s boring lmao
THIS SHOW IS SUPER LAME WHEN WILL IT END.
Stop watching jg
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