Testing a mini fridge for our outdoor kitchen and going over the plans!
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2022
- I test a mini fridge to see if it can handle the heat on our porch and explain our plans for our outdoor kitchen.
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Consider extending counter top out to include that 6x6 post. It really doesn’t add much for cost and will look less awkward. You can then pull the post into design and hang some side planters or maybe signs like bar open, etc.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
I agree with him go out to the post and figure out a way to mitigate the rain. Have that post make the outside corner
Maybe 45 that corner to give more room walking between the post and bar
@@TKCL you will want that extra space on the inside. think about as your cooking and some one wants a beverage you will either have to squeeze by or move out of the way.
The refrigerator is for Tiffany and I only, our friends have always brought their own coolers.
I would make the U shape open to the side that is the same side of the main entrance door. For ease of grabbing stuff in and out instead of having to walk all the way around. Install the drink fridge at the post facing the same direction on the main entrance door as its not needed for cooking at and more for the family and friends that come over. Wouldnt want them in the kitchen as your cooking when they just want a drink. Basically make it face out. Having the closed off side of the U shape at the corner of the window would cut off the view from the guest area in order to keep a cleaner look and appearance while cooking too. Basically at 15:38 where your facing the wall/window I would make that span countertop. All this would still allow you to run gas line and electric around to appliances.
Won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
I have to agree with Russell Parker, you want a large double sink. I had a small one and had to rip it out to replace it after six months. I didn't realize how much I would need it for food prep for the grill and smoker. Right now one half contains my old fashion ice cream freezer churning the best ice cream ever.
Yummmmm, homemade ice cream!
We've got one of them and it's worked perfect for over 3 years now.
That's great to hear, our outdoor kitchen is almost done and ready for it.
The fridge review was helpful
This is your space so do what you want. From my little experience with outdoor kitchens with tile as the counter top, I didn't like having all the seams between the tiles. As I seen someone else mention I'd try for solid surface scraps if you can find some that would work or just "buy once cry once" and get stainless tops. Dealing with food and drinks on a surface with many seams just makes you have to spend way more time keeping it clean and you'll end up wishing you would have went ahead and spent the extra upfront for a solid surface top. Again this is your space, do what you like. That's just my thoughts. I can't wait to see it complete.
For an outdoor kitchen I say the number one most important thing is make it really easy to clean, even something you can pressure wash or at least spray with a bunch of degreaser and hose off.
Make your faucet one of the tall ones you can stick a pot under it. An exhaust fan above it to move air away or a fan blowing so you don’t get smoke and stuff hanging up there but you don’t want a ton of air moving that’s gonna hit a grill or something that needs to maintain temperature.
Any kind of cabinets you get should be really well sealed to keep bugs and mice out. I don’t know what to do about the Bears 😂
I would also wire a couple of outlets under the edge of the bar so people can charge phones and stuff like that or you can plug your camera in or an extra fan or light or something out there just so you don’t have to have everything by the wall. GFCI of course since you’re outside. A dinner bell. A security camera on it.
If you going to incorporate the cooking stuff and you’re gonna do wood would I would consider would be to run a decorative stone or tile edge and wrap that around the Blackstone so you don’t have any heat issues, it’ll also be easier to clean if grease splatters a little bit while you’re cooking.
One thing I would do is find a place that does the granite countertops and talk to them about scraps. They get a lot of end cuts that are just under size or have an uneven edge, sometimes you can get some pretty decent size slabs for cheap. I would do tile if I couldn’t find any good granite pieces. Tile works great and it’s easy to clean and it’s weather resistant and it’s easy to update if you wanna change the look later.
It might be cool to have a deep fryer out there. I like the idea of deep frying but I don’t eat that much deep-fried food but it would be really cool, especially if you were doing a catch cook and clean thing.
I think it’s gonna be pretty cool and this fall when things start to cool off it’s gonna be really nice to get out there.
Thank you for the ideas
I was thinking about remnants, too. There's no law that says you have to be matchy matchy, it just needs to look intentional. Maybe a remnant of stone on the bar level and a restaurant style counter on the work surface area on the cooking side. Reclaimed wood or something cool under resin on the sink/refrigerator side.
Rev a shelf is one that comes to mind for hardware for cabinets, trash cans, and such
I'm working with a different company
Welcome to normal Tennessee Summer weather, Andrew. We typically have 115-degree heat index in July & August with only 100-degree in June.
Hot in West Tennessee now.
104 actual temp here today
Ugh, that sounds miserable.
Andrew I would reverse the U, you're going to be bringing stuff from inside and now you have to walk all the way around. I think you still need a u-shape to hide the gas lines. I recommend using steel framing and either do stucco or cultured stone on the sides. You'll hate a tile countertop, stuff likes getting in the grout.
Yes, steel framing or concrete block if you want it to last! Wood will not last long and you will regret it. For the countertops I would search for Pre-Fab quartz countertops (its just man made granite).. around here you can get the pre-fab tops with a bullnose edge already done in like 9' lengths and cut to length yourself. You can get granite too but it will not hold up outside as well. Actually you're East Coast so you probably just need a polished edge with the 3cm thick material. Out here its all 2cm (or 3/4 inch) so you have to have an edge detail put on it. At any rate its doable, beautiful, long lasting, and very cost effective. I would definitely keep the cooktop(s) OFF of the wall of the house. That is asking for issues.
I agree with reversing the U. I also had the thought of putting the opening in the middle of that 10' long counter. So you still have seating pool side for guests, but you still aren't walking as far. Would also help keep the grill heat away from guests.
I also like the idea of extending the countertop to and maybe around the post. Not the cabinets, just the countertop.
Won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
I didn't think about the windows, a drop down would look like an after thought as well. I do like the idea of incorporating the column, if you have to go short one way might as well go a little longer out. Then you and Tiffany aren't tripping over each other behind the bar. I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
I have an outdoor Sun Brite television love it. 👍🏾🙏🏾🍺🎣😷🇺🇸
Sounds great I would recommend two things Engineered stone for the countertops and too reconsider the end counter the walk around every time you need to go get something from the house will become excessive leave both ends open
Why not make a loose bar top piece to bridge the gap suggested by Craig. Could be removed or hinged down out of the way when the installation is not being used by lots of guests etc.
If you do a U shape, put refrigerator at the open end to keep the traffic down while cooking.
@@johnshepherd7958 I second this idea.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
I highly doubt the refrigerator is used by guests, they always bring their own coolers.
I agree. Best keep the cooking area away from that wall and beautiful windows. Grease is a tough thing to clean.
Very true
You won't regret it, I promise!
Hope this isn't a repeat comment but I couldn't scroll through 200 comments to see. I would only use drawers for your storage even if you make them really deep and wide to hold your pots. Drawers are way better than shelves and won't cost too much more when you consider the convenience. I was also gonna recommend the bigger sink and taller faucet as well as the acrylic coated countertops as I saw mentioned below. Can't wait to watch all the build videos.
Thank you
Hi, Andrew! I am excited to see your outdoor kitchen as you build it. You and Tiffany are very creative.
Thank you
The outdoor kitchen sounds like a fun project. Budget friendly but made to last.
Corrugated tin on out side counter looks real good.
I'm a fan of the tin, Tiffany is not.
That fridge will be amazing in your awesome outdoor kitchen. I am really happy for you guys.
A nice 33" deep sink would be wonderful out there, you would be surprised how much you would love it!!!! We love ours, I wonder why I didn't put one in sooner!!!
You could do your Blackstone and cook top to the left of the refrigerator and that way when you're sitting at the bar top you want get so hot. Like between the box and the house if that makes sense!
Andrew another great review I hope it does everything that you want it to do. Thank’s for the video.
Thank you for watching
For a counter top, have you thought about an epoxy counter top? Leggari epoxy counter tops can be customized to look like marble/granite in whatever colors/patterns you'd like. They're waterproof, heat resistant and might be the perfect solution for your situation.
You might even be able to get them (or another company) to sponsor your video or provide to you at a discount for your honest review of their product.
Can't wait to see the finished product!
I have looked into that.
Cabinets gray to match the house with white trim sounds great. Tile is a good way to go on a diy budget. You can always upgrade to stainless later.
Very true!
Man! I love how your house has come along. Can't wait to see the whole outdoor kitchen!
Thank you for watching
Quick suggestion-add some 2” foam board insulation to the side and especially the top of that little fridge. Using outside will wear that thing out and you’ll be amazed how much it helps.-Van camper’s hack. The trim board on your cabinet should hide the ugly.
The shell is designed to shed heat, so insulation would actually hurt it
Had another thought. If you put the mini fridge directly under the window. Then when you use the window as a pass through, you can set your trays of food directly onto the top of the fridge. Then when you go outside you can just move the food down into the fridge. Now with the fridge under the window. The spot you were thinking about putting the fridge in the U of the outdoor kitchen could be a door. Think bottom of a dutch door, the style with a shelf at the top of it. Could be made to look seamless or invisible. It could keeps you from walking around and a clean look from the parking area. Oh wait the gas line.... Trench and tile floor? Just ideas....
I've already been thinking about a table for the pass through. As for the other end, I need a solid cabinet to run gas lines and electric inside.
Man I like the outside refrigerator you got. I need one of those at my house for when we are hanging out in our backyard outside especially with our neighbor. That refrigerated work real well in that 100 degree temperatures. you got an awesome plan project you about to do. I can't wait to see what it's like when you're done. Good video buddy you take it easy.
Might look at a weathered gray wood look tile for the tops.
Hi Andrew great review on the bar fridge. Love your ideas for your out door kitchen, can't wait for that. I have no ideas but can't wait to see what you come up with. 🌞🇨🇦
Thank you for watching
Love your ideas!
No tile, I would put wood up temporarily, and save for the stainless steel, you would really love it!! Good things come to those who wait and you seem to me a guy, who knows what he wants!!! Haha 😄 plus it's so nice for clean up.
I would go to the post. I would also put the griddle and cook top across the side from house to post instead of where people will be sitting. It’s already 100 degrees. The griddle and cook top may make it too hot to sit at the bar.
I suggest adding a propane hookup on the end side of the built-in blackstone to allow additional hookups for deep fryer etc...
I agree and do plan on doing that
I would put the fridge next to the window so that you're not playing bartender and cook at the same time. if it's accessible it can be more self-serv. not that there's anything wrong in playing bartender but someone will want a drink at the most inopportune time while you're cooking. Bigger sink also sounds like a good idea. In the not budget friendly category, a stove hood over the cooktop and grill. Looking forward to the build videos.
That refrigerator isn't intended for guests, all of our friends always bring their own coolers.
Great project coming..I noticed that Tiffany is already using the window as a pass through, make a smaller counter (under the window) and use the lower part for a trash container.
You are correct, I've already been measuring and designing a shelf for that window.
if that little fridge can keep up in that floor to heat, it deserves a Kudos from me!
No kidding, I thought it was going to struggle. Now I feel better about including it.
Excited to see this outdoor kitchen come to life! Been wanting to do one for years. Can't wait to see ya break ground on the pool and deck also! Bet yall wish yall had it right now! Stay cool!
Oh boy do we wish we had one! 104 degrees yesterday 😳
@@TKCL I feel ya! In the 100s over here in texas too!
You might want to also consider that you're gonna be bringing food/ingredients from inside the house. Maybe have the entire thing be a set of parallel lines, rather than a more closed shape. This way you can go straight from the front door around the corner into the prep area.
Having it open also lets you get access from both sides depending on what you've got planned for the future.
That does make it a bit challenging to get the gas line over to the far side, but I'm sure you can think of something for that.
Agree. It will limit wasted undercabinet corner space and create easy access for the hosts from both directions
Don't forget I have to run gas and electric lines to both sides. I need one solid end.
Andrew, think about leaving a space in between the the cabinet an walls & a gap under the cabinets so u can clean up. Dont want water standing under the cabinets. Check into a stainless steel countertop.
I've been thinking about leaving drainage gaps.
Stainless is the way to go. That allows you to use food service-grade sanitizer, very cheap at Sam's Club, and literally clean it to NSF standards exactly like a restaurant. But stainless is expensive. I don't even want to look. Tile sounds like a good approach if you can get the grout sealed. Junk and germs will get into any crevice and this is going to be outdoors with dust and blown rain, probably curious animals walking on it. It needs to be something you can quickly and easily sanitize whenever you need to. All of this you already know. Thanks so much for sharing your thought processes as you go. Many people just do it and show it but never explain why or why not. This is one huge reason your videos are so awesome. No matter what it is you are doing, you always share the why.
Thank you for watching and the feedback
Epoxy from stone coat counter would be a great idea
Watch for restaurants that are auctioning stainless steel tables -- you might get lucky
Love your thought process Andrew. I would at least stain in the concrete slab if you're worried about stains. And the best countertops for outside is wood with stain or epoxy stain. If anything's drops on the tile counter top, it cracks or breaks. And the best benefit about building everything with wood is that if it gets damaged by wind, a bear damage it etc., it's easy to fix and you can always change and add things later which makes it much easier and cheaper on you.
We have Corian countertops and love them! Price isn't that high and it's great quality stuff.Several options and color to choose from.
We priced those a lot, I'd actually have more in the countertops than I plan to spend on this entire build.
Hi Andrew, I used to install commercial kitchen equipment and I’m sure you already know about this product but I would highly recommend installing a fire barrier wrap around the blackstone. I would recommend 3m fire barrier duct wrap. It’s a little pricey ($271.22 for a 24”x25’ roll on Amazon)but it has a cleanable surface and 2 hours of fire resistance per layer. Thanks for the content! Take care!
Thank you for the information, I was considering concrete backer board and potentially cement board on top of that. Didn't want exposed wood around it. What do you think?
@@TKCL I think that will work! Like you said as long as there’s no exposed wood it should need fine
Looks like you have a great idea for you outdoor kitchen. I would definitely put a huge deep sink though.
I'm a chef and working in a 3' wide space is impossible with 2 people so i would consider about a 5' wide space. As far as your counter tops go consider a butcher block style. It's something you can build yourself. I would also consider tile on the floor behind the space if you drop or spill anything it's much easier to clean then concrete.
I was going to put down rubber floor mats, should help my back.
You need to have some kind of protective flooring behind the bar. You don't want to spill grease on the concrete.
I'm going to put down big rubber mats. It will help the back too.
I would put the fridge by the window and then put an under counter sink next to that, would give you prep area under the TV. The fridge would give you good access to it from either inside the outdoor kitchen or from outside and if Tiffany is grilling on the blackstone you would still have easy access to the fridge.
think about a dishwasher next to the house at your sink, like a glass washer they have at the choke and pukes?
I was at a tile shop a couple weeks ago and they had some amazing looking 2 foot by 4 foot porcelain tiles. My first thought when I saw them was that they would be awesome for a countertop. You get the ease of working with tile but you don't have many of the grout joints that typically make tile countertops a pain, and porcelain wouldn't have a problem with stains or cleanup. You're probably not going to find anything like that at Lowes but an actual tile place should have them.
I'm looking at 12x24 tiles, but if I can find 2x4s for a reasonable price, I'd jump on it.
@@TKCL The grease will get in the grout no matter how well you seal it. Be sure to use black grout which will help hide everything. I do like the 12 x 24 option.
@@TKCL The ones I saw were supposed to be floor tiles but no reason they couldn't go on a counter
I am thinking black grout
We ripped down 2x4s to get the round side off of them and made butcher block countertops. Burned them with a torch to add color and character and sealed them up with a few coats of poly. They came out great and have held up great as well!
That was my first idea I was kicking around
just gotta say that while it may look a little better to under mounting that mini-fridge, it is going to render the bottom 2-3 shelves virtually inaccessible without crawling around on the ground. if it were me I would build something like a bar back kinda thing that would frame in the TV maybe a few shelves to hold your bottles of liquor and then put that mini-fridge on top of the counter. would give you a ton more under counter storage and would be much more convenient to reach beverages on all the shelves. The bar-back style would look decent too if done nicely and dont think would be too expensive.
My vote is to first talk to the (and/or any and all similar) folks you got your super duper commercial sink from. for a prep table or two you could maybe cut up or something.
Unfortunately a lot of restaurants went out of business during lockdown and as you know you can't beat used stainless steel commercial grade quality gear for value. You often say what a great deal you got on your sink so try that same route again.
Used commercial is far better than new consumer imho
also check with the guys you got your kitchen granite counter tops from for scrap pieces you may piece together in a Mosaic pattern or something as seams don't matter outside
or you could use marine-grade finishes like fiberglass gel coat or something for a countertop or even Teakwood meant for boat decks as a countertop you don't need much
think outside the box
that stuff would last forever.
Food for thought,
Good luck!
Use the same siding and paint scheme on the bar that you use on the house. It will make it look very integrated. Second, I do recommend the concrete pour in place countertops which can be done as a one man show. I hear you on the fear of food and other stains, but consider a very dark concrete dye to hide any future stains. Take a look at Modustrial Maker on youtube. As for the gas you may want to consider a timed shutoff valve, some insurance companies require them for outdoor kitchens.
Thank you for the information
Ok when I was growing up we had Butcher block counter by the sink so that we could clean and cut, I would suggest that you put the TV on a swivel more in the corner not above the sink area or the cooking area just because the cooking area the steam and the heat like you talked about, and for the sink water splashing up but the biggest thing is if someone’s watching a game and your heads are in the way that could be a really big distraction so I would suggest a swivel for the TV. And if you put a bar area above the Blackstone while you’re cooking that heat and steam is going to go up into their faces as they’re sitting there. What ever you choose is going to be wonderful:) tfs stay safe and God Bless:)
Very valid points, hard to find a perfect solution.
Only tying I see is the height of the frig. I would build it in as high as possible. Lots of tile to choose from. Just maybe a small grout line it would be hard to clean.
Nice review Andrew 👍. Stone coat countertops by you would make some awesome video content my friend ❤️.👍👍 keep up the good work.
Can't wait to see it all come together! Personally I would bring it on out to that pole though. Having that small gap is only going to get annoying and interrupt the flow. Plus a little more wiggle room in the kitchen area is always better!! With multiple people around for get togethers you don't need folks bumping the cook! Just a thought!
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
38*f or over is considered as heading towards spoilage.
I personally would set it at 35*f that gives you the 3*f plus or minus needed.
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For drinks I have no concern, this was 36 in the bottom when set to 40 degrees. That's a great temperature for drinks, although I prefer a little ice in some beverages 🍻
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you're pretty good with all your projects; I would highly suggest your cook top be at least out in the open up from under the patio cover---I designed my patio and patio cover with a 2-3 foot buffer (extension) out from under the patio cover so my grill is literally in the open so to speak but the bbq chefs (loosely worded lol) are mostly standing under the patio. In your case I would have the grill just outside the patio cover with your back towards the future tv or even at an angle might work. This protects your patio against any flareups. I think you mentioned it. I would kick that counter out to incorporate the 4x4 post the lil ladder is leaning on; you could hang ornaments from it and such. Same with the sink I plumbed it in that same purpose constructed grill slab I guess you could call it. You can still build the cabinet(s) to cover your stubouts but I think you're doing an excellent thing by reaching out for opinions. Anyway, I'm sure it will work out for you and Tiff. Either way you have plenty of room to do that in-ground whole hog Inca style!!
I can move my rubber made trash can to keep animals from getting into the left overs...yall surely have am animal kingdom greeting party!! Beer cub says 'wow look at all the grub they have!" poppa bear says yall seen the remote!! lol
Thank you for the suggestions.
@@TKCL You're welcome!! Oh and even with the radical temperature swings out here SW USA, I insulated my outdoor plumbing just in case we get the really low low temps in the winter which happened!! brrrrr
This might have been brought up, but have you considered using Corian solid surface countertops? They're fairly inexpensive, moisture resistant, used as shower walls often, low maintenance. Their downside is they are softer than quartz and can scratch/burn easily from hot pots and pans.
Yeah I priced them, not inexpensive, actually more expensive than granite. To do my entire outdoor kitchen would cost in countertops what I plan to spend on the entire build.
Happy that companies are starting to bless you with useful products to review. I heard lots of people are covering countertops with epoxy resin, personally have no idea of pros and cons, but that widens the choice if it's really that good, could cover wood, tile or colorful stone mosaics, insert laser engraved pieces...Just listen to the lady of the manor and you'll be fine:))) I hope we celebrate that 50K subs soon:)
I've been thinking about lasered tiles.
@@TKCL It would be very difficult to clean the indentations, that's where epoxy comes handy.
We bought our house primarily because it had an outdoor kitchen/living area, and if we're home and awake, we're usually out there. That being said, you are super correct, stay away from the concrete countertops. Getting grease stains off is impossible. Also, if you do go with a two burner stovetop get one that's side by side vs one like ours that's front and back. The back burner rarely gets used, as you have to reach across the front burner to get to it. Not sure about to do about the heat from a Blackstone, they look good mounted permanently, but gosh do they give off heat!! I roll mine out to the deck this time of year. I'll DM you a pic. Thanks for the video!!
I was thinking cement board all around the blackstone for heat reasons.
You may want to round the corner, such as quarter round considering you have to deal with the post at that end, it could add a little style without extra cost, just a little design plan on your part
I did a back splash in our small bathroom using a hard glazed tile and instead of using the traditional grout I used a white kitchen and bathroom silicone to attach the tiles along with fill the cracks between the tiles. It has been over 20 years since I installed them and they are holding up great. There has been no water penetration and the clean up is easy with just using mildly soapy water and a rag.
You can mock up a few different trials of different products before deciding on which one is best for your application to see which one works best with the liquids you will be subjecting the counters to before deciding which one to use would be my suggestion.
Which ever way you choose will ultimately be your decision because, well it is your home and you will have to live with it potentially for the rest of your life. Best wishes and you are doing an awesome job on the home.
Thank you very much
Great idea on the black stone cook top. How about putting a smoker in also to be all in one area. Keep up the good work. Been following you from the beginning of house build.
I use larger wood smokers, so I'll cook off the porch with them. They don't require much attention.
Andrew I'm 69 years old and could care less what people think of me, I guess that comes with age, I sure enjoy you and your videos, hang true to your convictions!
Oh I will, but I do appreciate feedback and new ideas.
With the concern of heat I would suggest you use metal studs and tile board and use a stone product to cover. I would suggest you move the grills to the long wall and put the fridge under the counter where people will be sitting. You asked just some suggestions. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe and cool 😎
Thank you
Look at z counterforms I did it and loved it at my old house. Plan on doing it again for my new house
Also you need big sink I had one built in that was a 3 deep restaurant sink and always used two of them.
You may consider a komando style grill on the end instead of a gas grill. I wouldn't live with out 1 and I got a traeger and a blackstone to but I couldnt live without my big green egg.
Put the entry to the kitchen area on the side with the door instead of by the window. Will make things easier when you are carrying things out to cook you won't Have to walk all the way around. Also that can make more seating around
Won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
@@TKCL Good point!!! I'm sure they way your planning is going to look amazing!!! I can't wait to see it all come together!!!
I would definitely come out 10 ft. Thus making the space 10 X 10 ft. More room for 2 people to move about.
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
Don't forget a pull out spice rack. Should be easy to make and a necessity for her cooking. I'm excited to see what you come up with!!
We are probably going to have pullout drawers and put spices in those.
I would think a resin counter top would look great. Use the colors of your house (black, gray, white, maybe even green) and swirl them into a unique one of a kind counter top matched to your house. You could even make some kellys country life items with your new setup and put them in the counter top to be permanent. Just a suggestion. Geeat channel.
Thank you for the feedback
Have you thought about just a cutout for the blackstone versus permanent install. Would allow you to replace it, clean/service it with a lot of ease.
Good thought, I'll have to think about how that looks aesthetically.
good to see you're moving on and your garden is just exploding! put up all you can, it will last a long time in the freezer
I would consider bringing that out all the way to that 6 x 6 post you’re not looking at much more expense and it won’t look near is awkward other than that I love all the other design you have its great you can always upgrade the stone façade around it later I would integrate a hardwood cutting board that you can pull out inserts into the counter and you can pull it out and clean it and for the fridge I would make it to where you can expand to a different fridge if ever need be and you can put filler strips on the right and left-hand side
I forgot to mention I am trying to not go any further out because rain does blow in up to that post.
Your getting alot of input (as expected). My "2 cents" is the countertops and the man-made Quartz style will give you the "bang for your buck" long term. Ease of maintenance, functionality, colors/styles and reasonable cost. My last remodel for our kitchen (inside) turned out great, using it. Also having a concern with putting the mini-frig down low. Consider elevating to make ease of access better. Bending over to get stuff out is OK for now but again "long-term" having it higher makes it easier to see in and access later. Keep up the video's.. Loving them.
I priced the Corian and it would cost me in tops what I plant to spend on this entire build.
Run it out to the 6x6 post. That space will close up on you quickly. I did what you are proposing space wise - worst mistake I made. I would keep the grills away from house/tv area. You will find it will become a catch all area as you use it. Card decks, board games, yolo cups, wine bottle opener, plastic utensils, baking sheets, cast iron skillets, spatulas, tongs, skewers, seasonings, etc. You will fill up your storage quickly if you use it a lot. You will love it!!
I would want some counter space between Blackstone and cooktop, maybe 24" or so.
I do plan to have some gap
Stainless/metal countertops sound nice but imagine putting your hand on it in this heat! I’m in New Orleans and my door knob is almost too hot to touch right now.
If you close in that end of the outdoor kitchen and need something from inside, you have doubled the distance that you will have to walk and that might be a problem if you need something in a hurry.
For safety sake, you might want to go with a deeper bar top. You don't want someone to be able to reach across the bar/counter top and be able to reach the cook top
The little bit of walking does not bother me. Won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
I'd move the fridge to the end of the U furthest away from the house and have it pointing toward the shop. Imagine cooking, someone wants a drink, and your hands are full and your also in the way.. It would make for easy access for the guests and the cook. Countertops - No tile, check out Stone Coat Countertops on UA-cam.
That end catches very hot afternoon sun. The refrigerator isn't necessarily for guests, it's for Tiffany and I. Every cookout we go to with friends we all bring our own coolers.
Why not finish the bar top surface with plate glass. Easy to clean and you can put pictures under to be changed as you see fit periodically.
Glass in general has me concerned with a bunch of guests, banging dishes around, bottles and children.
Clark & Deborah: You may want to do a complete L shape raised bar, cause you know people are going to be hanging/standing on the back side, on the front porch area. Just a thought....Great review, strong little frig👍
I do plan to do that
Sounds wonderful! Tile countertop:the first time something gets dropped and breaks the tile will be heart breaking. And grout stains sooo easily. What can you do in the build to keep out pests? Bugs and mice…. That would be huge for me!
I was thinking a thin dark colored grout. Bugs and pests are going to be a battle.
They make a tabletop black stone that would be easier to implement.
100% under bar lighting
Andrew, hi from Australia. Longtime watcher, first time for commenting. Thinking of your pool plans, have you looked at Shipping Container pools? I am sure there would be companies in USA that build these type of pools. Anyway, just an idea for an above ground pool if that is an option your looking at. Keep up the good work - you and Tiffany have done so much. If I can also pass on some advice, you should use Tiffany's name more often replacing 'she' and 'her' which you sometime over use.
We have, no one around here offers them. Biggest reason we don't want one is how narrow they are.
Love your ideas!
Suggestions: Maybe consider flipping the U, with opening near the side of the house where the entrance is, bottom of the U near the windows. OR making it along the house, backward L, ( _| ) with the Blackstone at bottom of the _|. The cabinet next to the Blackstone (near the window) you might put the door on the outside for storage instead of dead cabinet space..
Then have a semi-free standing bar, (upside down L) shaped bar top, maybe 18-24" wide, with a short return, building it off that post, open underneath, with seating on both sides, so the chef & helper can pull up a stool, sit & visit/play games/watch TV too. You could have 2 openings, one facing the pool/Oak Tree, other closer to the door. It would be more open & airy, close to cooking but not too close.
You'll do what works best for y'all! Love all of your videos! Stainless steel tops would be nice, but price wise, I
love the tile top idea!
Looking forward to what you do in your outdoor kitchen and bar area.
BTW, might think about a long box (storage for pool noodles, etc.) with hinged top for a footrest, incorporated into the bar, rather than a foot rail. 🤔
Just food for thought! 😉😘🥰
Everyone has ideas!
Flipping won't work, I'd have to shorten the entire kitchen by half because the other end would be in our windows. Not to mention pulling up in the yard and looking into a kitchen area isn't the best looking.
I would do stone for my counter top
Hi Andrew, a couple of things you could incorporate into the new outside kitchen.
1. Can crusher over the garbage bin. This will reduce the volume of the cans, making less this to empty the bin.
2. You should consider putting a lock on the outside fridge, as thieves will always steal alcohol or beer. Also lock the outside television so it is bloody difficult to steal as well.
3. Placing master switches for all services outside (Gas, water and power) in your house, so unwanted visitors (Vandals etc) to the house do not leave the grill on, the tap flowing, or electricity being wasted.
4. A length of PVC pipe of the wall to store stubby holders (Beer koozies for you Americans)
5. Bottle openers all around the place so you are not forever opening your friends drinks. You can place them under the bench top so your friends can open their own refreshments.
Looking forward to see the final result from Australia
I've been searching for a good can crusher and already have a bottle opener. Thanks
imho the drink fridge should be as far out of the kitchen as is feasible, i.e. keep wet people in the pool from needing to run through the kitchen area to get drinks. If someone is cooking or preparing food they're either going to need to stop what they're doing to play bartender or get wet as folks bump by. Just a thought.
So the refrigerator is not necessarily for guests, it's for Tiffany and I. Everyone I know brings their own cooler to cookouts.
@@TKCL lol my wife would be the primary culprit soaking wet and dripping and bumping past me while I'm trying to cook... : D as long as it crossed your mind. Cheers!
We've decided to move it, vaild points.
From the way I understand it, the outdoor kitchen is u shaped with the end blocking exit to the door around the corner. I would make the end a flip up counter top so one of you can exit to get to the inside kitchen without bumping into the person cooking.
I had tile countertop and hated it - pain in the butt to clean. Anything with groves (like grout lines) is a no.
What about harvesting trees for countertops and topping w epoxy? Or creating butcher block counter tops?
I need one end enclosed to run gas and electric. Im not convinced a wood look fits the feel of the porch.
I think you need a fold-up counter walk-through, or you're going to Hate walking around the seating area to get back to the kitchen.
Not sure you even want closed cupboards outside in the humidity. A tote in the pantry with outside dishes & such keeps out mold & critters. You'll pr'bly have food & dishes on folding tables during party. Open shelves hold totes on cooking side during party, it all goes back to pantry afterwards. Hose it all down afterwards, no place for critters to make homes in warm, dark places.
I ha e to run electrical and gas lines through the cabinets, it can't be open on both ends.
I've had tile counter tops, but they were poorly done with 1/4 grout lines. It was terrible to keep clean. If you can do it with no grout lines, I think it'll be fine.
I do want small lines and darker colored grout.
How about decorative perforated metal for the front of the outdoor kitchen. Could be painted any color (black to match trusses), would look neat and allow for ventilation. My other thought would be durock which could also be painted. The blackstone is on wheels correct? If you removed the side table wings, couldn't you just build a slot in the counter to roll it into and out of if needed. Just like the range inside the house. Lots of ideas in the comments. Can't wait for the build.
You could build a slot, I'm kicking around that idea.
whrer i live used stainless steel counter/tables (the kind they got in industrial kitchens or restaurants or hotels ext.) are pretty cheap...maybe that would be a good option. at least for part of the kitchen