I don't think granting wishes is Jade's Cornerstone power at all. Every deal she fulfilled was done with her influence and wealth as an IPC exec: she knew what the Pepepshi girl liked, where the criminal was, and granted the gambling addict "luck" through either her IPC intelligence network or soft power. Explicitly clear with the last one since Jade points out that all casino in the universe will "know her face", implying that the casinos themselves will rig the games in the gambler's favor rather than supernaturally granting her luck like Aventurine's Gaiathra Triclops' blessings. I think Jade's actual Cornerstone power is the ability to see people's desires when they're near her Cornerstone. When Jade 1st appeared before Topaz, she specifically said that thanks to Aventurine bringing her Jade Cornerstone into the dreamscape, she was able to see all kinds of desires and wishes flowing through the dreamscape. Later, when Topaz gives examples of Cornerstone powers, she says "the ability to see desires, read minds, and other things". This clearly indicates that "seeing desires" & "reading minds" are 2 separate powers. You don't have to be constantlythinking or even be aware of something for it to be your desire, so these being 2 different powers make sense. I think you got confused and clumped them together into 1 power.
@@fukuhobolobo7729 yeah, that would explain her winning the gambles, but doesn't explain her not being able to make any kind of relationship. You could say that she will think so much of herself that people would avoid her, but then again, once she begins wishing for relationships, she could decide to change her attitude, she could even stop gambling altogether for whatever reason. Jade's deal completely ignores any kind of change of heart, Stacy will never have people in her life ever again, that's something the IPC can't cause, it's impossible. On the other hand, we are talking about a stone that gives her absurd powers directly from an Aeon... Yes, she can see people's desires, which is also why she knows if a person has something equally valuable to pawn, but then again, just seeing desires is not what makes jade powerful nor frightening, her stone must allow her to do something more like, again, prevent someone to have meaningful interactions with people as a payment for their desire to be fulfilled. Also, no, I didn't clump together reading minds and seeing desires, I specifically said that among the other Stonehearts, there's someone who can read mind. I never even said nor thought that Jade could
@@ShadowXImpact that could easily be explained away with Jade having people keep tabs on Stacy and make sure anyone who approaches or is approached by her will be strongarmed into staying away from her. Remember, Jade managed to get dirt on Firefly despite Glamoth Replublic being long gone and knows which Aeon the Stellaron Hunters follow even though it's an in-universe mystery. The IPC's hold over the universe is ridiculously strong, so they absolutely have the power to fuck over a simple gambler on a whim. When Jade talks about open a new branch of her pawnshop on the ship, she explicitly calls it as "indulging in my special interest", so I don't actually think she's looking for any gains on her part and just enjoys seeing people destroy themselves fulfilling their wishes. That would explain why she wants Walker's memory bank, which is practically useless for her. It was never about what's inside of his memory that could be useful for her, it was about seeing walker's soul-crushing experience of knowing that he wasted 20 years of his life for something that Jade just solved with a simple flick of her hand and the despair that he'll willingly give his "identity" away for it. That's also why Jade said Firefly doesn't have anything that's of value to her: Firefly is all to happy to throw away everything to get a chance to live, up to and including betraying her fellow Stellaron Hunters (she brought that up un-prompted and Jade didn't even hint at wanting that either). She doesn't have anything that she cares for that would crush her heart by trading it to Jade, which Jade wants. Girly literally live to fuck people over.
@@fukuhobolobo7729 that would be an excessive amount of work for the IPC that would give neither Jade nor the IPC any kind of benefit. I mean, you're saying that there will be someone, a group of people actually, following Stacy day and night for the next 80 years (hoping she doesn't have a long life, that is), stopping anyone who comes close to her to force them to avoid her? What for? Too much effort for nothing in return. Stacy wouldn't have pawned a thing, this would just be Jade being extremely immature and obsessive.... It's one thing to be able to acquire knowledge and information, it's a completely different thing to stalk someone for the resk of their life for nothing in return.... Even if we think she's beyond sadistic as to enjoy seeing people destroy their own life, Stacy is still beyond what the IPC could ever allow her to do. They exist to take over the universe, not to follow a person for who knows how long just for her to enjoy herself. Topaz specifically said that the Stonehearts were granted unimaginable powers by the Cornerstones, so it's very unlikely that Jade's one doesn't have supernatural powers like the others seem to have, and just seeing people's desires is really not enough, not for the second in command... I guess we just disagree on her powers XD
Regardless of whatever Jade's power truly is, you're right on one thing: the Stellaron Hunters don't have much to lose aside from their own, which themselves aren't what Jade wants either: they have squeaky clean records with the Stonehearts and by extension - their department, this was mentioned by Topaz. So it doesn't matter whether it's in the IPC's interest or her own cruel enjoyment or if she could help any of them, there was never even a deal to be made in the first place. But that exact thing is the reason why the hunters are the most interesting visitors to her shop and even though she knew that she might have to turn all of them away, she still extended a personal invite to each member.
@@arnowisp6244 is it the game that says that, or is it the wiki? Because I read everything I could find about Terminus, and I couldn't find that statement. Even if I missed that, if the Finality is the end of all Aeons, which is what Elegy told us, then yes, Terminus is the anthisesis of the Trailblaze but also of the Beauty, the Propagation, of every single Aeon, because when the Finality meets another Aeon, that Aeon will inevitably die
@@ShadowXImpactthe game added a mechanic called finality vision that makes so that players can access certain modes (such as the divergent universe and apocaliptyc shadow) without clearing the necessary story requirements (like completing penacony). When you try to activate it you get a message saying that the finality is the anthesis of the trailblaze and that it could spoil you
@@AKturtle yeah, but still, it doesn't really mean that it's only about Akivili. Elegy talked about every Aeons' moment of Finality, so most likely the Finality is the anthisesis of every single path. Every path moves forward in a way or another, the Finality is the only path that moves backward, just that makes Terminus in a place of opposition compared to the whole universe
@@ShadowXImpact but isn't the nihility already the antithesis to all paths including even finality? If finality is moving backwards from a point to a point it's still path just backwards. Nihility is just still, perfectly still, not even moving.
@@rust5427 Nihility is not really the enemy of the Aeons. If they ignore IX, they won't do anything at all because they don't care, they couldn't care less about anything. Finality, on the other hand, will bring the end to the Aeons, Terminus will cause these moments of Finality and they're doing it from the end of time to it's beginning, so that the universe can restart and go toward a new Finality, a new cycle. So Terminus is actively doing something "against" the Aeons, IX doesn't. This is also the reason why Fuli has been recording the most important events of the universe, so that when the end comes, things won't be forgotten. It's basically like Honkai Impact and the project (I can't remember the name) from the previous era to bring the people of the new era the knowledge of the past, and even then, the Herrscher of the Finality can only appear after the other Herrschers have appeared. In this case, the Finality will really be born only after the other Aeons will have died
Amazing work on the video! One thing I found peculiar about Jade is that when you talk to her as the TB and you ask her to do something for you (revive akivili/defeat nanook/becoming IPC's CEO) she asks for Pom-Pom's tail as a collateral. I wonder if that has any deeper meaning or if its just her idea of being funny lol
@@daten9075 thank you! I'm happy you liked it!! I did write a few lines about that, but when I watched the video again and then I realized that no matter what request you made, it was always the same answer, I then realized what "dark humor" meant. She was literally mocking us with a poker face so hard, it looked like she was dead serious. I don't think there's a deeper meaning, although we all know Pom-Pom is sussy XD
I'd like the bring attention to the flowers in Elegy's design (If anyone don't get what I'm talking about, Elegy has dark purple and blue "flowers" as part of her attire, the interesting thing about these is that they have the same shape as march oneric shard in her design except the colour are swapped) : If what you said about March is true then it comes as a nice visual proof that Finality and Trailblaze are not only linked, but also opposites of one another.
@@chaotic-ilusium8363 the flowers are similar, but the shape is really different if you compare them. Still, I don't see how this is proof that Finality and Trailblaze are linked and opposite. I mean, Elegy told us that Finality brings about the end of every Aeon, it's not much of a theory there, she straight up told us, so yes, the Finality and the Trailblaze are linked and are opposite, but that simply applies toevery single Aeon. Everyone is linked to the Finality because they are probably part of it, like the Path of Finality is probably made of the unfulfilled goals of the dead Aeons, and they will all meet their moment of Finality when they'll meet Terminus. Although, I gotta say, I read everything I could about Akivili and Terminus, but that statement on the wiki "the Aeon Terminus opposes Akivili" doesn't exist in any text in game at all, nor did they redirect to the source, reason why I ignored it. If I can't double check it, then it shouldn't be taken at face value
I must say, I'm impressed by the amount of lore details you managed to parse through and condense into a coherent narrative, especially given how obtuse some of the data is. Regarding Jade, I initially thought her miracles were just a product of money and influence, but the girl who became lucky in exchange for her connections throws a wrench on everything. But Jade does say the purpose of her pawnshop is to achieve her own wish, which cannot be acquired by her own powers, so I'm not convinced her ability allows her to literally grant wishes. The Amphoreus Aeon trifecta sounds very plausible. Excited for space Italy! I cannot provide any concrete evidence, but I had my headcanon theory regarding Akivili's fall. I think Akivili's goal was achievable, depending on how you interpret it. While exploring the universe is the method through which the Trailblaze operates, we are explicitly told Akivili opposed "the unknownable", so if he were to discover an absolute truth (as stated reaching the end of the Tree of Existence) then his journey would effectively end. If Akivili gained the ability to see the future or the end of everything, he would have no more reason to trailblaze (He can accept the Unknown, that's what Nous is always calculating, but Akivili would have eliminated the Unknownable for good). I personally believe that Akivili lost his Aeonhood and instead became an Emanator of Finally (Elio) at that point. But.... That's just my theory. Anyway, great video, lots of food for thought!
@@luderetoplayistolive9824 I've never heard of a monkey's paw before, but it does sound like it, though if you look at Jade's image, her snake is wrapped around a tree and has an apple in its mouth, so they literally went for the devil's analogy with her
It isn't a Monkey's Paw, as the people already know what they'll trade yet doesn't realize the consequences. There has to be a hidden twist for it to be a Monkey's Paw. Its a classic Faustian Bargain/Deal with the Devil, where one trade everything (materialistic or spiritual) for a single wish.
@@HuyrrouIt works similar to the monkeys paw, which is a Faustian bargain I think. But this is the wrong one. I think it is the biblical story of Eve and the devil, who was in the form of a snake. Plus the quest we meet her is called all about Eve. And her signature kinda looks like both jade and Eve.
Jade to me is a witch make contracts for power. With the finality we are dealing with Samsara again. Yet seems like at some point in the timeline from which time is reflected back to the beginning makes me think of a trial. The finality seems like a mirror to reflect the universe to prepare humanity to face a judgment day which to move past the mirror to free itself of the samsara.
@@jeshuaavila1620 I honestly see Jade as the devil, I'm not even kidding. Even her splash art is basically the serpent around the tree of knowledge with the infamous apple in its mouth.... As for the Finality, I don't really think it's a trial to prepare humanity to free themselves from the cycle. It really feels like the Herrscher of the End in Honkai Impact that only appears after the other Herrschers have appeared, so Terminus might actually be born only when the other Aeons will have met their own moment of Finality, but since Terminus also travels back in time from the end to the beginning, they cause those moments of Finality so that their birth is assured, whether they like it or not, because there's still the Primum Mobile forcing them to do what the path requires
I think it is interesting that Yaoshi want to cure the disease known as finality. Although, that finality was not capitalized and Elegy said Finality causes immortality to rupture. I do wonder if Yaoshi end goal is to transcend the concept of finality. Elegy probably understood Termininus well enough to come to a basic conclusion, but Elegy probably would not understand other Aeons with wide Path.
@@Elysia-vj2gd I don't think Yaoshi wants to cure the Finality. The path of Abundance is just curing the sick and prevent death, no matter the consequences, reason why the Mara exists. Those people will surpass the limitations of their body, they will never be sick and even natural death won't be a thing anymore, but they will have to give up on their minds and identity. The Finality is not a sickness, it's the end, so I don't think that has anything to do with Yaoshi. When Elegy said that immortality will wither, it's a figure of speech to say that even Yaoshi, who can grant immortality with their powers, will have to meet their moment of Finality, so they will meet their end
@@ShadowXImpact "The flowers share their petals without care, waiting for their inevitable withering destiny. The birds fly high in song, moving toward their inevitable crash and death. The streams flow rapidly with life, in a direction where they inevitably run dry. Why must all things come to an end? There must be a miracle somewhere in the universe that can cure the disease known as finality." THEY “cannot bear to see death and the pains of illness” doesn’t meant THIER Path are limited to that, that is a part of Abundance but not Abundance in its entirety. I meant Abundance wanted to cure what the Finality brings, and by curing it is transcending it. I think Yaoshi is the type of Aeon that guides, yes they give but if the prayer wanted to reach the “eternal paradise”, they must transcend their mortal limitations. Becoming more or less a concept themselves. I thought of this idea because Shuhu the Emanator of Yaoshi seems to be able take any form. (Of course this is kind of crack, but I am just trying to clarify myself.)
It's not a Pawnshop, it's a PAWN Shop. Jade makes a deal that turns you into her Pawn, becoming eternally dependent on her deals to make any headway. She basically says as much as well. There are also theories as to Jade being Eve, with the talks of apples/forbidden fruit, and her Snake/Serpent theme; it could very well be she made a deal with the devil and now herself must make devilish deals in return. She prays on peoples' desires much in the way Eve's desire for the forbidden fruit caused problems Biblically.
@@gillesnotard69 that would be fun to be honest XD Please Songs, don't get stuck in my head again.... I ended up listening to a whole playlist of Disney songs earlier!
wouldn’t Aventurine be closer to Elation?? i mean luck, trickery?? the trickster god of elation is right there. While Aventurine may have been blessed by xipe it doesn’t mean his stoneheart powers have to be related to them. similar to how many of the denizens of the xianzhou were blessed by Yaoshi yet the majority don’t follow their path.
@@SUPERsourbum but we already know that Aventurine follows the path of Preservation, not just the playable path in the game mechanics, but even his other self in the quest said that he was on path of Preservation. Yes, he sounds more like a follower of the Elation because he uses tricks, but Elation is all about finding the next fun thing to do, while Aventurine wins his bets to accomplish something concrete, he's not just playing to have fun.
@@ShadowXImpactyeah that’s the difference between the factions. An aeon is limited to their imaginary power from the path, but pathstriders can use any sort of method to get to the end of their path. That is why IPC doesn’t seem like preservation( although most likely because there will be later story on it, with pier point diamond and Oswaldo Schneider thing going on)
This is a theory .. I think the next path will be born I think it will revolve around the concept of chaos We already have a chaos mechanic which is the random atk in game indicating it will have a huge significant Chaos can't be read by time because it is chaotic and unstable Defeating nanook will be that the Chaos Eon will swallow Nanook since if there is chaos there is Destruction like the phrasing of Harmony and Order
@@renjouji the birth of an Aeon would be a nice thing to experience, though this hypothetical Aeon of the Chaos, as you described them, may end up being the Trailblazer himself, and if that's the case, it will take a looooong time before we see it happen
Loved the vid❤️ Also something I would like to point out is every hoyo game has this concept of challenging or defying fate it’s more prominent in genshin since it’s mentioned a lot in its lore but hi3 also has this concept as well because of how every civilization will always fall due to Honkai and how it effects every world or universe well the ones in the imaginary tree ofc and the root cause of all this was finality because finality is basically another term for fate well not another term, but it’s closely related to fate it’s like for example, you’re faded to die choking and you try to ensure that doesn’t happen so you avoid things that could make you potentially choke but it doesnt matter if you choke on a piece of food or some plastic or are being choked by somebody's hand, the result is still dying of choking its just like nicole said whether by a cat or mouse tiping it over the end result is still a broken vase tyat is fate aka finality this detail is better seen with Fontaines prophecy it said that the hydro archon will be weeping on her throne while every one dissolves in the waters having their sins cleansed but no matter what happened or what they did to stop it the prophecy still came about even if it wasn't exactly how the people pictured it in the end the "hydro archon was still we've been on her throne the nation still experienced the flood, and the peoples sins were cleansed and evrn with all that it still was in a sense finality bringing about an end to the peoples sins and their identity as false humans so essentially folcalors made her open fate/finality by playing to its rules even though she sacrificed herb own life and had to suffer as a human for 500 years to do it, it still was worth it i wonder if this is the so called fate or finality teyvat was given and that descenders are actually those who have a strong enough will to harness the power of finality and bring abt new fates essentially creating a new world like the primordial one did. This idea can also be given to that of star rail since this kind of align to your theory and i wonder if the abyss is the equivalent of honkai in genshin do to it beimg able to corrupt certain individuals and that it originates from finality which makes me wonder what the honkai equivalent to star rail could be we saw in acherons myraid trailer that it parallels honkai and herrscherrs in acherons planet and that monsters descended there to izumo i wonder if thats its honkai since I think honkai can be different to each planet but anyways the main point I'm trying to say is that fate could be the equivalent of finality in genshin and that the honkai from it is the abyss in genshin only if you think about it, it makes sense everywhere the abyss goes brings about an end to a certain civilization first it was the dragon sovereign acquiring knowledge of the abyss bringing about the end age of dragons and then deshret using it and having his civilization come to an end and now khaenriah has suffered the same consequence and it coukd be due to teyvats current circumstances that not one civilization will fall this time but all civilizations will crumble in teyvat which makes me wonder again if the archons or sovereigns are the equivalent to that of herrscherrs in genshin from star rail more specifically that archons since Nicole says God have a slim chance of changing fate and that fate coukd be finality and finality had these gem stones (I forgot the name of them) that created mini herrscherrs and we have the gnosis which are from the third descender that give the archons additional power and remember that descenders are those with wheels that can wheeled the power of finality and if I'm correct then this theory parallels that hi3 which omfg after playing the game makes SOOO much sense its crazy to think they already came up with this games lore before because once you have to do the story and look back what dain says wow it really Blows your mind how much they tell you and such a little words also i wonder if dains brother could be the genshin equivalent to Kevin kaslana i mean they do look pretty similar they have the same blue eye color, and have the star eyes that represent finality the same color but still they share similarities so it could be possible that dains brother is a Kevin exp OR let me cook hold on your gonna like this one KEVIN COULD BE NEBLUNG since Kevin’s boss design when he became the herrscherr of finality is that of a dragon that would be so sick especially since the unknown God asmoday is a Kiana exp more specifically the herrscherr of void and she’s from Celestia this would honestly be such a good plot to the story and I hope they go with this because I think it would make the game a lot more interesting and because we saw well heard Kevin in Acherons myriad so I need to see him in Genshin hmm since the sinner is dains brother maybe he has the same va as Kevin if they don’t then this theory could be a bust but still hoping❤️❤️
I'm happy you liked it!!! Well, Finality in Star Rail can literally be considered as a different name for fate. I mean, if Terminus is bringing prophecies that will inevitably happen, that's what fate is. In Genshin Impact, fate takes on a whole different meaning, because it seems like something predetermined by someone, rather that events that are meant to happen in general. In Furina's case, Focalors did defy fate, because the people were supposed to dissolve in the flood, putting an end to the Oceanid-People, and this is the only thing that didn't happen. As for the Descenders, since they don't follow the rules of Teyvat nor are counted in the events that are meant to happen, their existence alone means defying fate. It still doesn't feel right to me to think that the Abyss represents the Honkai. I mean, the Honkai is an power/energy that exists to "regulate" the universe, it's almost something necessary, a defense system of the Imaginary Tree, probably because the more advanced a civilization, the more the risk they'll get to the Imaginary Tree and mess up with it. This doesn't seem the case with the Abyss. If anything, Susty feels more like the Honkai (apart from her appearance), so as a consequence, maybe the shades in general? like they are the shades of the Primordial One like the Herrschers are to the Honkai? In this case, the Primordial One would be the God the Herrschers follow. Yes, the Abyss does corrupt people, which is also what the Honkai does, but the Honkai does it intentionally to create a Herrscher, while the Abyss is more like coming in contact with radiation, the toxicity is not intentional, it's something that happens because that's what it is. By the way, what Deshret acquired was not Abyss Powers, it was Forbidden Knowledge, it's a completely different thing. We have a very different interpretation of what Nicole said, so I can't really reply to what you said. I still think, and always more convinced about it, that when Nicole talked about Gods, she didn't mean the Archons, she meant the Shades, specifically she meant Istaroth back in Khaenri'ah with Makoto. As a visionary, I believe she has a completely different understanding and view of the world, and the Archons, compared to the Shades, are small fries, so they are the ones who didn't really change anything by using Irminsul, they just removed some memories and history was perceived/remembered differently. They didn't change the world, Istaroth did. I could get behind the idea of Vedrfolnir and Dainsleif being two different versions of Kevin, a "cold and evil" one and a "cold but maybe not evil" one, but Kevin being Nibelung, I don't really think so. I could stretch it and think it could be Jormungand, but even then, that should have been Orobashi, since the World Serpent in Honkai Impact is also called Ouroboros. Honestly, I'm waiting for Siegfried in Genshin Impact, and my bet and hope is in Varka. In that case, I would even go for 180 pulls to get him, and his weapon
@@ShadowXImpact what Nicole said she meant by any god is general what she said was a small hint to Fontaines story since folcalors did achieve in defying fate like Nicole said abt them having a slim chance and folcalore did have a slim chance and was able to achieve that so what Nicole says about the gods being able to faith, I think she’s referring to God in general the shades could easily defy fate because they pretty much represented to a certain extent but Nicole was specifically talking about any god whether weak or strong and folcalors was able to only by pure strategy We don’t know how strong she was as a God, but we can guess that she’s at least as strong as venti and I don’t mean the whole “oh I’m the weakest of the seven” venti I mean venti as a god in his prime kind of thing and he’s definitely not weak now anyways again what Nicole was referring to about the gods having a slim chance she was talking about all whether they’re a higher god or a low god she still was talking about gods as a whole no matter if they were a primordial entity made by the original or a god born out of the nature of this world there still a god they still hold divinity first they hold some authority so they do have a slight chance in defying fate if there smart or strong enough to do so but it cannot be so easily achieved since it’s something predetermined so you’d have to find a way to work around that system of fate in order to defy while still following its rules, which is exactly what folcalors did Genshin used Nicole as a way of hinting to that of folcalors plan of defying fate I’m not disagreeing with you but I think you don’t give the archons enough credit though compared to primordial deities like shades, they still are gods and hold a certain extent of authority and power to grant their peoples wishes and they are all strong and their expertise venti is a trickster, zhongli feels like a strategist, ei uses raw power, nahida uses her knowledge and understanding, while folcalors deceives, in a way they could all potentially have a chance in defying fate if they use their skills and strength wisely against it Especially Venti since he’s a child of the god of time so he would have a greater chance, in defying fate in the rest due to him being the product of a primordial deity
@@isaiahhaley4816 yeah, okay, I could agree that it was a hint at Fontaine, but I also believe that this "God" thing is going to bite back at us in the future, and we'll have to figure out when these higher being meant the gods of Teyvat and when they meant the gods of the microcosm, I have this feeling... As for Focalors, I don't think she was as strong as Venti in his prime. Remember that she's only 500 years old, at least as an Archon, so she might be on Nahida's levels.
@@ShadowXImpact folcalors is definitely stronger than nahida I mean her people had more faith in her over those 500 years then nahida ever had so she definitely stronger then her in some aspects, especially since nature is pretty much nothing without water and as for the whole god thing I don’t mean to be rude, but I feel like you hyper fixate on certain things and analyze a little too deeply if Nicole was talking about God, such as the shades or the priority one she would’ve said celestial beings or greater deities but instead, she just said God as in a god in general this fact is also proven out all of the archons constellations are of themselves meaning that they have higher authority over their own fate in our able to slightly defy it
UA-cam things, I'm not even surprised at this point... I mean, it sends me notifications about my own posts in the community tab, as if they were written by someone else, so.... Anyway, take your time, the video is going nowhere!!! XD
According to Jade, she’s says all she needs to resurrect Akivli is Pom Pom’s tail. While our character believes she’s was joking there is a possibility she’s telling the truth
@@thedazzeledone regardless of the desire you pick, she will always reply with Pom-Pom's tail, so that was just dark humor and a way for her to tell the Trailblazer that she knows who they were
@@qq1176 well, Preservation is about fire and the Trailblazer got Fire as the element, while with Xipe, the trailblazer got Imaginary. That was my thought process
maybe the whole akivili terminus thing is kind of like 1 people cannot exist at 2 places and terminus is inevitable so akivili is blotted out. So the past has akivili and the future has terminus. like once akivili reached his end point at the end of the universe he now returns is a sleeping form back through rewriting history, idk sounds poetic and artsy.
@@meepatmeep8626 yeah, but still, Akivili returned to Pegana when they reached the end of their journey, so they didn't transform into Terminus when they reached the end of the Universe (if they even did it, anyway). An Aeon that died in the past can't be an Aeon who's traveling from the far future, unless Akivili was just a fragment (every Aeon eventually becomes a fragment) of what will, at the end of time, become Terminus. I guess we'll see, they're starting to give us something and now we know we need to keep an eye out for Terminus
@@ShadowXImpact do you think Akivili returning to Pegana could actually be Terminus travelling back in time to Pegana? What if Akivili DID reach the end of the universe, achieved their goal as an aeon and are now travelling back through time as Terminus? What we know as Akivili "returning to Pegana when they reached the end of their journey" could be Akivili (who became Terminus) moving backwards in time, "returning" to Pegana. cmiiw, this is just something i thought of while reading comments lol.
@@Palmtree_s but they died 5000 years ago, how are they traveling back in time from the end of time? And how did the other Nameless board the Astral Express, if they are traveling back in time to Pegana? This is why I don't think they, alone, are Terminus, but Terminus is the accumulation of all the Aeons who died and will die, meaning that, when the last Aeon dies, so the end of time, then Terminus will be born to go back in time
@@ShadowXImpact My thought process was that Akivili's death/disappearance 5000 years ago is when they reached the end of their journey, and in that moment Akivili took place of Terminus at the end of time. Terminus then begins their travel backwards through time, "reliving" Akivili's journey in reverse (hence, Akivili/Terminus returning to Pegana at the end of their journey is actually Terminus travelling backwards through time to the very beginning of Akivili's existence). I haven't done enough research myself to know if my idea is possible. I mostly intended it to be food for thought.
@@Palmtree_s I understood what you meant, but my question still remains. If they died in the past, how are they coming back from the future? Even with time dilation it would be hard to explain. Reaching the speed of light, would get Akivili to the future, but the Astral Express wouldn't have been able to come back to Pegana 5000 years ago, since the Nameless still use it. On the other hand, if the universe expands like ours, then it's faster than the speed of light, and to reach the end of it, Akivili would have traveled back in time 5000 years ago, they wouldn't have reached the end of time anyway....
About the Stellaron Hunters following the Path of Finality, it is more insinuated by Jade than said as a fact, she asked Firefly if the Stellaron Hunters follow the Path of Finality like her. Which is as much of a bluff question to see if Firefly follows that path, as a real question to know if they all do, they might each follow their own path, Elio might follow Enigmata or Remembrance even if Finality makes sense. However, when you look at the Stellaron Hunters splashart that you used to say that Elio was probably the black cat, you can see Kafka, Sam, Silver Wolf, Blade, the black cat and some crows, birds that are linked to Sunday just like doves are to Robin, and knowing that Jade made a deal with Robin/Sunday and tried to make on with the Stellaron Hunters, is that foreshadowing ?
@@gillesnotard69 I don't see that interaction the way you see it. Jade has an extensive network of information that allows her to basically know everything she wants to. I mean, she's not second in command for nothing. She told Firefly that she follows her leader even though their goal is the opposite of theirs. Jade follows an Emanator of the Preservation, and yet her powers destroys people's lives instead of protecting them. The same goes for Firefly. Her condition will put an end to her life, will cause her own moment of Finality, but her goal is to prevent that, so she's going against the goal of the path of her leader, meaning that Elio is an Emanator of the Finality. I really don't think jade needs to bluff to figure out who Elio is, she already knows that just as she knew who Firefly was, even though she wasn't wearing her suit which would have instantly told her that she's one of the Iron Cavalry. When it comes to the members of the Stellaron Hunters, Robin made a deal with Jade to free Sunday so that he could create that paradise he promised her. If Jade gives him to the Stellaron Hunters, how would he be able to fulfill that promise? That's why I see it hard for him to join the Stellaron Hunters, even though crows are the birds that represent him. Still, there's yet another Stellaron Hunter we don't know, because Kafka recruited Blade, Firefly and Silver Wolf, so the one from her story has to be another one we don't know, since they recruited Kafka
@@ShadowXImpact I understand your point of view. However, I don't really trust Jade with informations right now, it might be biased, but if she is the only one saying the Stellaron Hunters follow the Path of Finality, asking if they follow it like Elio, it's a bit too vague for me, I need a Kafka or a Himeko to say it. My point about Sunday/Stellaron Hunters/IPC and the whole "paradise" is pretty much linked about the internal fight between Diamond and that other Nameless that Boothill seems to hate, Oswaldo. I can definitely see them freeing Sunday and giving him to the Stellaron Hunters to use them and ruin Oswaldo so Diamond could gain more power in the IPC, that would be a paradise for them, and a hell for him, pretty much government strategy. The order of the Stellaron Hunters joining as always threw me off, I thought Sam was the first one, but Firefly's last promotional video show Kafka recruiting her in space. But since Silver Wolf met 4 people, does she count cat Elio as a person ? Was it the Trailblazer that recruited Kafka ? Still confusing to me.
@@gillesnotard69 to be honest, between Kafka, who needs to follow a script, so she's not entirely free to say whatever she wants, and Jade who is out there enjoying herself, I trust Jade more. As for Sunday, I don't know. We know too little about Diamond, so it's hard to speculate. I do think it would be hard for Sunday to create a paradise world if he ends up following scripts after scripts, and we don't even know if Elio would accept him. So far, the hunters have been chosen by Elio himself. As for the unknown Stellaron Hunter.... We don't really know when the Trailblazer was created, so he could have been the one who recruited Kafka. We know that he (Caelus for me) worked with the Stellaron Hunters, specifically with Kafka. Blade had already been recruited back then because he remembers about him, but I doubt Firefly met him when she was recruited, so he must have been put to sleep before Firefly was found. As a consequence, the fourth one from Silver Wolf's recruitment story should be Elio, because she says a man (Blade), a woman (Kafka), a metal humanoid (Sam) and.... because it's a cat and she doesn't say it at all, probably because it's not normal for a cat to recruit people, nor to take orders from a cat..... If it was the Trailblazer, she would have said two men or two women based on our choice of MC.
@@ShadowXImpact I trust Kafka more because she doesn't lie about lying while having to follow a script, meanwhile Jade looks like she is just enjoying herself, but the tempting serpent lies and she doesn't say anything about that. You can see a spider's web, but you don't see the serpent's poison until you got it. As for the whole script thing, since it's always what destiny has to say, either the overthrowing of Oswaldo is part of destiny, or isn't meaningful enough for the script. Because Stellaron Hunters do other things in their free time, so I could see Sunday joining them because he is needed for the script and the price to pay is helping Jade. For the missing Stellaron Hunter, I still can see the Trailblazer, especially since Firefly comes before Blade, just that since our body is artificial and modified by an aeon, maybe Firefly doesn't know about it and she only remembers the other body, or maybe Elio wiped a part of her memory in some way, or her script just says that she can't reveal anything to the Trailblazer even if she recognizes him. But I saw a cute comic about Trailblazer helping Firefly saying powerful and dangerous things as Sam instead of what a nice girl would say, like "set the seas ablaze", so I might still be biased.
quest "All the Sad Tales": "???: Ugh, must I do all the work? Aventurine is the stone of luck and trickery... That's what she said when you received the stone, wasn't it?"
@@oshello6940 I will try! I actually had fun trying to calculate when Akivili died using everything we know from the game, for example. So yeah, I will make other Star Rail videos! XD
@@aomine.8907 so when the Trailblazer got Fire from Qlipoth, how do you explain that exactly? And how do you explain that, out of coincidence, Dominicus, one of the four Harmonic Strings of Xipe, four Emanator of the Harmony, also uses Imaginary?
@@ShadowXImpactImaginary energy is basically the cornerstone of the Honkaiverse. Every other form of matter existing is technically derived from it. Qlipoth bestowing us with fire does not discredit the fact that the Aeons manipulate Imaginary energy to maintain their very existence and spread the influence of their paths.
People still talk about there being more Stellaron Hunters because of Kafka's splash art when even the girl that appears up there does not even look like Firefly... If there were more Stellaron Hunters they would have mentioned them already. There are thousands of factions in Star Rail however people still grasp on that copium... I love the SH but I would not like them releasing two new stellaron hunters like "oh, we forgot about them". However with Sunday, I can see an exception for him because if you watch the Jepella trailer when they show us a pic of all the Stellaron Hunters we see the cat that represents Elio, but there are some crows on the left part that actually are not even faded off so they are on the main image taking space, and I think that was a foreshadow of Sunday joining them. And also, if we see their emblem, there are 6 stars surrounding a big star, that star I feel like represents the finality aeon, and the other 6 stars are Kafka Blade Silver Wolf Sam Sunday Elio But honestly, Star Rail has so many cool factions that I would not like them bringing up more and more Stellaron Hunters, people is used to Genshin having mainly the fatuis but in Star Rail we can have multiple factions opened up. Boothill mentions that we will meet more of his Galaxy Rangers friends also.
@@sylvain_3 I don't list another Stellaron Hunter because of Kafka's splash art, I do that because it's literally in her character story. If Kafka recruited both Blade and Firefly, and all three (well 4 with Elio) recruited Silver Wolf, then please do tell me who the Stellaron Hunter during Kafka's recruitment story is, since it's all "copium". And no, it's not about the devs forgetting about them, it's about mentioning someone and keeping them hidden until the right time. Just because they showed us the Stellaron Hunters, doesn't mean that they are obliged to have shown us all of them. As for Sunday, that might even be the case. It would be interesting to see and it would give Jade's invitation to the Stellaron Hunters a new meaning, but then I don't really see how Sunday could create the paradise he promised Robin... But still, that's just a possibility, while we know from the game itself, that there is, indeed, another Stellaron Hunter, one that followed Elio before Kafka was recruited, hence the 6 stars you talk about. I don't really see what's the problem in having more Stellaron Hunters, though...
Im getting the vibe from jade that she is a trickster even more so then aventurine, at least to me I think she's lying about her IPC Connections being the cause of her deals, Specifically due to the price of Connections the gambler paid. If anything i think her cornerstone power is literally the deals she makes with the power of the preservation effectively setting the trade in stone, specifically i think shes effectively trading ideas and concepts with people the detective wanted knowledge to catch a criminal hed been after so the price for this knowledge was his knowledge. Now what did robin want, sundays "Freedom" to fullfill the pact they made as Children, and what do we know about the price Robin cancelled every concert she has which leads me to believe that her price was her freedom to bring joy to Universe through her song, Freedom for freedom. Which leads me to the final question what did the gambler want again, Money or more specifically luck if what I've established holds true them what is considered to be of priceless vaule, Love and Family the price being connections isn't an outlier its the key to fully revealing how jades deals work especially if we assume the deals price and terms are enforced by the power of jades cornerstone then in giving the gambler a connection to wealth and money (Luck) jade in exchange gets the Conceptual value of every connection the gambler had before making the deal and that also means she could sell others that connection someone wishing for a family Boom Jades effective sudo reality manipulation by enforcing her deals onto Reality can give them the family they want for a price. This begs the question what is jades wish.
@@muzehe1195 technically, you're right. Terminus will always go back to the beginning and begin a new cycle, so the path is endless. That's maybe why they are watching the Trailblazer very carefully, because he might be the one to bring Terminus their moment of Finality and put a definitive end to the cycles
I don't think granting wishes is Jade's Cornerstone power at all. Every deal she fulfilled was done with her influence and wealth as an IPC exec: she knew what the Pepepshi girl liked, where the criminal was, and granted the gambling addict "luck" through either her IPC intelligence network or soft power. Explicitly clear with the last one since Jade points out that all casino in the universe will "know her face", implying that the casinos themselves will rig the games in the gambler's favor rather than supernaturally granting her luck like Aventurine's Gaiathra Triclops' blessings.
I think Jade's actual Cornerstone power is the ability to see people's desires when they're near her Cornerstone. When Jade 1st appeared before Topaz, she specifically said that thanks to Aventurine bringing her Jade Cornerstone into the dreamscape, she was able to see all kinds of desires and wishes flowing through the dreamscape. Later, when Topaz gives examples of Cornerstone powers, she says "the ability to see desires, read minds, and other things". This clearly indicates that "seeing desires" & "reading minds" are 2 separate powers. You don't have to be constantlythinking or even be aware of something for it to be your desire, so these being 2 different powers make sense. I think you got confused and clumped them together into 1 power.
@@fukuhobolobo7729 yeah, that would explain her winning the gambles, but doesn't explain her not being able to make any kind of relationship. You could say that she will think so much of herself that people would avoid her, but then again, once she begins wishing for relationships, she could decide to change her attitude, she could even stop gambling altogether for whatever reason. Jade's deal completely ignores any kind of change of heart, Stacy will never have people in her life ever again, that's something the IPC can't cause, it's impossible.
On the other hand, we are talking about a stone that gives her absurd powers directly from an Aeon...
Yes, she can see people's desires, which is also why she knows if a person has something equally valuable to pawn, but then again, just seeing desires is not what makes jade powerful nor frightening, her stone must allow her to do something more like, again, prevent someone to have meaningful interactions with people as a payment for their desire to be fulfilled.
Also, no, I didn't clump together reading minds and seeing desires, I specifically said that among the other Stonehearts, there's someone who can read mind. I never even said nor thought that Jade could
@@ShadowXImpact that could easily be explained away with Jade having people keep tabs on Stacy and make sure anyone who approaches or is approached by her will be strongarmed into staying away from her. Remember, Jade managed to get dirt on Firefly despite Glamoth Replublic being long gone and knows which Aeon the Stellaron Hunters follow even though it's an in-universe mystery. The IPC's hold over the universe is ridiculously strong, so they absolutely have the power to fuck over a simple gambler on a whim.
When Jade talks about open a new branch of her pawnshop on the ship, she explicitly calls it as "indulging in my special interest", so I don't actually think she's looking for any gains on her part and just enjoys seeing people destroy themselves fulfilling their wishes. That would explain why she wants Walker's memory bank, which is practically useless for her. It was never about what's inside of his memory that could be useful for her, it was about seeing walker's soul-crushing experience of knowing that he wasted 20 years of his life for something that Jade just solved with a simple flick of her hand and the despair that he'll willingly give his "identity" away for it. That's also why Jade said Firefly doesn't have anything that's of value to her: Firefly is all to happy to throw away everything to get a chance to live, up to and including betraying her fellow Stellaron Hunters (she brought that up un-prompted and Jade didn't even hint at wanting that either). She doesn't have anything that she cares for that would crush her heart by trading it to Jade, which Jade wants. Girly literally live to fuck people over.
@@fukuhobolobo7729 that would be an excessive amount of work for the IPC that would give neither Jade nor the IPC any kind of benefit. I mean, you're saying that there will be someone, a group of people actually, following Stacy day and night for the next 80 years (hoping she doesn't have a long life, that is), stopping anyone who comes close to her to force them to avoid her? What for? Too much effort for nothing in return. Stacy wouldn't have pawned a thing, this would just be Jade being extremely immature and obsessive....
It's one thing to be able to acquire knowledge and information, it's a completely different thing to stalk someone for the resk of their life for nothing in return....
Even if we think she's beyond sadistic as to enjoy seeing people destroy their own life, Stacy is still beyond what the IPC could ever allow her to do. They exist to take over the universe, not to follow a person for who knows how long just for her to enjoy herself.
Topaz specifically said that the Stonehearts were granted unimaginable powers by the Cornerstones, so it's very unlikely that Jade's one doesn't have supernatural powers like the others seem to have, and just seeing people's desires is really not enough, not for the second in command...
I guess we just disagree on her powers XD
Regardless of whatever Jade's power truly is, you're right on one thing: the Stellaron Hunters don't have much to lose aside from their own, which themselves aren't what Jade wants either: they have squeaky clean records with the Stonehearts and by extension - their department, this was mentioned by Topaz. So it doesn't matter whether it's in the IPC's interest or her own cruel enjoyment or if she could help any of them, there was never even a deal to be made in the first place. But that exact thing is the reason why the hunters are the most interesting visitors to her shop and even though she knew that she might have to turn all of them away, she still extended a personal invite to each member.
Well no. Her knowing who we (MC) were and referencing PomPom is an indicator that she can see through more than just desires.
Even the game call's Finality the Antithesis of the Trailblaze.
@@arnowisp6244 is it the game that says that, or is it the wiki? Because I read everything I could find about Terminus, and I couldn't find that statement.
Even if I missed that, if the Finality is the end of all Aeons, which is what Elegy told us, then yes, Terminus is the anthisesis of the Trailblaze but also of the Beauty, the Propagation, of every single Aeon, because when the Finality meets another Aeon, that Aeon will inevitably die
@@ShadowXImpactthe game added a mechanic called finality vision that makes so that players can access certain modes (such as the divergent universe and apocaliptyc shadow) without clearing the necessary story requirements (like completing penacony).
When you try to activate it you get a message saying that the finality is the anthesis of the trailblaze and that it could spoil you
@@AKturtle yeah, but still, it doesn't really mean that it's only about Akivili. Elegy talked about every Aeons' moment of Finality, so most likely the Finality is the anthisesis of every single path. Every path moves forward in a way or another, the Finality is the only path that moves backward, just that makes Terminus in a place of opposition compared to the whole universe
@@ShadowXImpact but isn't the nihility already the antithesis to all paths including even finality?
If finality is moving backwards from a point to a point it's still path just backwards. Nihility is just still, perfectly still, not even moving.
@@rust5427 Nihility is not really the enemy of the Aeons. If they ignore IX, they won't do anything at all because they don't care, they couldn't care less about anything. Finality, on the other hand, will bring the end to the Aeons, Terminus will cause these moments of Finality and they're doing it from the end of time to it's beginning, so that the universe can restart and go toward a new Finality, a new cycle. So Terminus is actively doing something "against" the Aeons, IX doesn't.
This is also the reason why Fuli has been recording the most important events of the universe, so that when the end comes, things won't be forgotten. It's basically like Honkai Impact and the project (I can't remember the name) from the previous era to bring the people of the new era the knowledge of the past, and even then, the Herrscher of the Finality can only appear after the other Herrschers have appeared. In this case, the Finality will really be born only after the other Aeons will have died
Amazing work on the video! One thing I found peculiar about Jade is that when you talk to her as the TB and you ask her to do something for you (revive akivili/defeat nanook/becoming IPC's CEO) she asks for Pom-Pom's tail as a collateral. I wonder if that has any deeper meaning or if its just her idea of being funny lol
@@daten9075 thank you! I'm happy you liked it!!
I did write a few lines about that, but when I watched the video again and then I realized that no matter what request you made, it was always the same answer, I then realized what "dark humor" meant. She was literally mocking us with a poker face so hard, it looked like she was dead serious. I don't think there's a deeper meaning, although we all know Pom-Pom is sussy XD
I'd like the bring attention to the flowers in Elegy's design (If anyone don't get what I'm talking about, Elegy has dark purple and blue "flowers" as part of her attire, the interesting thing about these is that they have the same shape as march oneric shard in her design except the colour are swapped) : If what you said about March is true then it comes as a nice visual proof that Finality and Trailblaze are not only linked, but also opposites of one another.
@@chaotic-ilusium8363 the flowers are similar, but the shape is really different if you compare them. Still, I don't see how this is proof that Finality and Trailblaze are linked and opposite.
I mean, Elegy told us that Finality brings about the end of every Aeon, it's not much of a theory there, she straight up told us, so yes, the Finality and the Trailblaze are linked and are opposite, but that simply applies toevery single Aeon. Everyone is linked to the Finality because they are probably part of it, like the Path of Finality is probably made of the unfulfilled goals of the dead Aeons, and they will all meet their moment of Finality when they'll meet Terminus.
Although, I gotta say, I read everything I could about Akivili and Terminus, but that statement on the wiki "the Aeon Terminus opposes Akivili" doesn't exist in any text in game at all, nor did they redirect to the source, reason why I ignored it. If I can't double check it, then it shouldn't be taken at face value
LETSGOOO A JADE LORE VIDEO. I’ve been searching for one, she’s so fascinating.
Lemme get watching 🎉
@@SupaSaiyanXP I hope you'll like it!!! XD
I must say, I'm impressed by the amount of lore details you managed to parse through and condense into a coherent narrative, especially given how obtuse some of the data is.
Regarding Jade, I initially thought her miracles were just a product of money and influence, but the girl who became lucky in exchange for her connections throws a wrench on everything. But Jade does say the purpose of her pawnshop is to achieve her own wish, which cannot be acquired by her own powers, so I'm not convinced her ability allows her to literally grant wishes.
The Amphoreus Aeon trifecta sounds very plausible. Excited for space Italy!
I cannot provide any concrete evidence, but I had my headcanon theory regarding Akivili's fall. I think Akivili's goal was achievable, depending on how you interpret it. While exploring the universe is the method through which the Trailblaze operates, we are explicitly told Akivili opposed "the unknownable", so if he were to discover an absolute truth (as stated reaching the end of the Tree of Existence) then his journey would effectively end. If Akivili gained the ability to see the future or the end of everything, he would have no more reason to trailblaze (He can accept the Unknown, that's what Nous is always calculating, but Akivili would have eliminated the Unknownable for good).
I personally believe that Akivili lost his Aeonhood and instead became an Emanator of Finally (Elio) at that point. But.... That's just my theory. Anyway, great video, lots of food for thought!
I don’t think your conclusion is correct, but the connection between the finality and trailblaze is ever more apparent and more interesting.
Never been interested into aeon lore till now, amazing and eye catching video keep up the good work!
@@Maryam-.- thank you!!!! I'm happy you liked it!! XD
This is an example of a Monkey's Paw instead of a Genie granting wishes.
@@luderetoplayistolive9824 I've never heard of a monkey's paw before, but it does sound like it, though if you look at Jade's image, her snake is wrapped around a tree and has an apple in its mouth, so they literally went for the devil's analogy with her
It isn't a Monkey's Paw, as the people already know what they'll trade yet doesn't realize the consequences. There has to be a hidden twist for it to be a Monkey's Paw.
Its a classic Faustian Bargain/Deal with the Devil, where one trade everything (materialistic or spiritual) for a single wish.
@@HuyrrouIt works similar to the monkeys paw, which is a Faustian bargain I think. But this is the wrong one. I think it is the biblical story of Eve and the devil, who was in the form of a snake. Plus the quest we meet her is called all about Eve. And her signature kinda looks like both jade and Eve.
Jade to me is a witch make contracts for power. With the finality we are dealing with Samsara again. Yet seems like at some point in the timeline from which time is reflected back to the beginning makes me think of a trial. The finality seems like a mirror to reflect the universe to prepare humanity to face a judgment day which to move past the mirror to free itself of the samsara.
@@jeshuaavila1620 I honestly see Jade as the devil, I'm not even kidding. Even her splash art is basically the serpent around the tree of knowledge with the infamous apple in its mouth....
As for the Finality, I don't really think it's a trial to prepare humanity to free themselves from the cycle. It really feels like the Herrscher of the End in Honkai Impact that only appears after the other Herrschers have appeared, so Terminus might actually be born only when the other Aeons will have met their own moment of Finality, but since Terminus also travels back in time from the end to the beginning, they cause those moments of Finality so that their birth is assured, whether they like it or not, because there's still the Primum Mobile forcing them to do what the path requires
I think it is interesting that Yaoshi want to cure the disease known as finality. Although, that finality was not capitalized and Elegy said Finality causes immortality to rupture. I do wonder if Yaoshi end goal is to transcend the concept of finality. Elegy probably understood Termininus well enough to come to a basic conclusion, but Elegy probably would not understand other Aeons with wide Path.
@@Elysia-vj2gd I don't think Yaoshi wants to cure the Finality. The path of Abundance is just curing the sick and prevent death, no matter the consequences, reason why the Mara exists. Those people will surpass the limitations of their body, they will never be sick and even natural death won't be a thing anymore, but they will have to give up on their minds and identity.
The Finality is not a sickness, it's the end, so I don't think that has anything to do with Yaoshi.
When Elegy said that immortality will wither, it's a figure of speech to say that even Yaoshi, who can grant immortality with their powers, will have to meet their moment of Finality, so they will meet their end
@@ShadowXImpact "The flowers share their petals without care, waiting for their inevitable withering destiny. The birds fly high in song, moving toward their inevitable crash and death. The streams flow rapidly with life, in a direction where they inevitably run dry. Why must all things come to an end? There must be a miracle somewhere in the universe that can cure the disease known as finality." THEY “cannot bear to see death and the pains of illness” doesn’t meant THIER Path are limited to that, that is a part of Abundance but not Abundance in its entirety. I meant Abundance wanted to cure what the Finality brings, and by curing it is transcending it. I think Yaoshi is the type of Aeon that guides, yes they give but if the prayer wanted to reach the “eternal paradise”, they must transcend their mortal limitations. Becoming more or less a concept themselves. I thought of this idea because Shuhu the Emanator of Yaoshi seems to be able take any form. (Of course this is kind of crack, but I am just trying to clarify myself.)
It's not a Pawnshop, it's a PAWN Shop. Jade makes a deal that turns you into her Pawn, becoming eternally dependent on her deals to make any headway. She basically says as much as well. There are also theories as to Jade being Eve, with the talks of apples/forbidden fruit, and her Snake/Serpent theme; it could very well be she made a deal with the devil and now herself must make devilish deals in return. She prays on peoples' desires much in the way Eve's desire for the forbidden fruit caused problems Biblically.
So basically, Robin is Ariel and Jade is Ursula.
@@gillesnotard69 okay, that's a good analogy, if I've ever seen one! Robin needs some thingamabobs now!!!
@@gillesnotard69 great, now the song is stuck in my head.... XD
@@ShadowXImpact Now imagine Robin having a 4 star dps companion who is a humanoid crab who uses forks to fight ?
@@gillesnotard69 that would be fun to be honest XD
Please Songs, don't get stuck in my head again.... I ended up listening to a whole playlist of Disney songs earlier!
Interesting video + I get to stare at jing yuan so perfect
@@spreadhappiness3250 I gotta admit, his face is nice indeed XD he has such a happy relaxed expression!
wouldn’t Aventurine be closer to Elation?? i mean luck, trickery?? the trickster god of elation is right there. While Aventurine may have been blessed by xipe it doesn’t mean his stoneheart powers have to be related to them. similar to how many of the denizens of the xianzhou were blessed by Yaoshi yet the majority don’t follow their path.
@@SUPERsourbum but we already know that Aventurine follows the path of Preservation, not just the playable path in the game mechanics, but even his other self in the quest said that he was on path of Preservation.
Yes, he sounds more like a follower of the Elation because he uses tricks, but Elation is all about finding the next fun thing to do, while Aventurine wins his bets to accomplish something concrete, he's not just playing to have fun.
@@ShadowXImpactyeah that’s the difference between the factions. An aeon is limited to their imaginary power from the path, but pathstriders can use any sort of method to get to the end of their path. That is why IPC doesn’t seem like preservation( although most likely because there will be later story on it, with pier point diamond and Oswaldo Schneider thing going on)
This is a theory ..
I think the next path will be born
I think it will revolve around the concept of chaos
We already have a chaos mechanic which is the random atk in game indicating it will have a huge significant
Chaos can't be read by time because it is chaotic and unstable
Defeating nanook will be that the Chaos Eon will swallow Nanook since if there is chaos there is Destruction like the phrasing of Harmony and Order
@@renjouji the birth of an Aeon would be a nice thing to experience, though this hypothetical Aeon of the Chaos, as you described them, may end up being the Trailblazer himself, and if that's the case, it will take a looooong time before we see it happen
Loved the vid❤️
Also something I would like to point out is every hoyo game has this concept of challenging or defying fate it’s more prominent in genshin since it’s mentioned a lot in its lore but hi3 also has this concept as well because of how every civilization will always fall due to Honkai and how it effects every world or universe well the ones in the imaginary tree ofc and the root cause of all this was finality because finality is basically another term for fate well not another term, but it’s closely related to fate it’s like for example, you’re faded to die choking and you try to ensure that doesn’t happen so you avoid things that could make you potentially choke but it doesnt matter if you choke on a piece of food or some plastic or are being choked by somebody's hand, the result is still dying of choking its just like nicole said whether by a cat or mouse tiping it over the end result is still a broken vase tyat is fate aka finality this detail is better seen with Fontaines prophecy it said that the hydro archon will be weeping on her throne while every one dissolves in the waters having their sins cleansed but no matter what happened or what they did to stop it the prophecy still came about even if it wasn't exactly how the people pictured it in the end the "hydro archon was still we've been on her throne the nation still experienced the flood, and the peoples sins were cleansed and evrn with all that it still was in a sense finality bringing about an end to the peoples sins and their identity as false humans so essentially folcalors made her open fate/finality by playing to its rules even though she sacrificed herb own life and had to suffer as a human for 500 years to do it, it still was worth it i wonder if this is the so called fate or finality teyvat was given and that descenders are actually those who have a strong enough will to harness the power of finality and bring abt new fates essentially creating a new world like the primordial one did. This idea can also be given to that of star rail since this kind of align to your theory and i wonder if the abyss is the equivalent of honkai in genshin do to it beimg able to corrupt certain individuals and that it originates from finality which makes me wonder what the honkai equivalent to star rail could be we saw in acherons myraid trailer that it parallels honkai and herrscherrs in acherons planet and that monsters descended there to izumo i wonder if thats its honkai since I think honkai can be different to each planet but anyways the main point I'm trying to say is that fate could be the equivalent of finality in genshin and that the honkai from it is the abyss in genshin only if you think about it, it makes sense everywhere the abyss goes brings about an end to a certain civilization first it was the dragon sovereign acquiring knowledge of the abyss bringing about the end age of dragons and then deshret using it and having his civilization come to an end and now khaenriah has suffered the same consequence and it coukd be due to teyvats current circumstances that not one civilization will fall this time but all civilizations will crumble in teyvat which makes me wonder again if the archons or sovereigns are the equivalent to that of herrscherrs in genshin from star rail more specifically that archons since Nicole says God have a slim chance of changing fate and that fate coukd be finality and finality had these gem stones (I forgot the name of them) that created mini herrscherrs and we have the gnosis which are from the third descender that give the archons additional power and remember that descenders are those with wheels that can wheeled the power of finality and if I'm correct then this theory parallels that hi3 which omfg after playing the game makes SOOO much sense its crazy to think they already came up with this games lore before because once you have to do the story and look back what dain says wow it really Blows your mind how much they tell you and such a little words also i wonder if dains brother could be the genshin equivalent to Kevin kaslana i mean they do look pretty similar they have the same blue eye color, and have the star eyes that represent finality the same color but still they share similarities so it could be possible that dains brother is a Kevin exp OR let me cook hold on your gonna like this one KEVIN COULD BE NEBLUNG since Kevin’s boss design when he became the herrscherr of finality is that of a dragon that would be so sick especially since the unknown God asmoday is a Kiana exp more specifically the herrscherr of void and she’s from Celestia this would honestly be such a good plot to the story and I hope they go with this because I think it would make the game a lot more interesting and because we saw well heard Kevin in Acherons myriad so I need to see him in Genshin hmm since the sinner is dains brother maybe he has the same va as Kevin if they don’t then this theory could be a bust but still hoping❤️❤️
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Well, Finality in Star Rail can literally be considered as a different name for fate. I mean, if Terminus is bringing prophecies that will inevitably happen, that's what fate is.
In Genshin Impact, fate takes on a whole different meaning, because it seems like something predetermined by someone, rather that events that are meant to happen in general. In Furina's case, Focalors did defy fate, because the people were supposed to dissolve in the flood, putting an end to the Oceanid-People, and this is the only thing that didn't happen. As for the Descenders, since they don't follow the rules of Teyvat nor are counted in the events that are meant to happen, their existence alone means defying fate.
It still doesn't feel right to me to think that the Abyss represents the Honkai. I mean, the Honkai is an power/energy that exists to "regulate" the universe, it's almost something necessary, a defense system of the Imaginary Tree, probably because the more advanced a civilization, the more the risk they'll get to the Imaginary Tree and mess up with it. This doesn't seem the case with the Abyss. If anything, Susty feels more like the Honkai (apart from her appearance), so as a consequence, maybe the shades in general? like they are the shades of the Primordial One like the Herrschers are to the Honkai? In this case, the Primordial One would be the God the Herrschers follow.
Yes, the Abyss does corrupt people, which is also what the Honkai does, but the Honkai does it intentionally to create a Herrscher, while the Abyss is more like coming in contact with radiation, the toxicity is not intentional, it's something that happens because that's what it is.
By the way, what Deshret acquired was not Abyss Powers, it was Forbidden Knowledge, it's a completely different thing.
We have a very different interpretation of what Nicole said, so I can't really reply to what you said. I still think, and always more convinced about it, that when Nicole talked about Gods, she didn't mean the Archons, she meant the Shades, specifically she meant Istaroth back in Khaenri'ah with Makoto. As a visionary, I believe she has a completely different understanding and view of the world, and the Archons, compared to the Shades, are small fries, so they are the ones who didn't really change anything by using Irminsul, they just removed some memories and history was perceived/remembered differently. They didn't change the world, Istaroth did.
I could get behind the idea of Vedrfolnir and Dainsleif being two different versions of Kevin, a "cold and evil" one and a "cold but maybe not evil" one, but Kevin being Nibelung, I don't really think so. I could stretch it and think it could be Jormungand, but even then, that should have been Orobashi, since the World Serpent in Honkai Impact is also called Ouroboros.
Honestly, I'm waiting for Siegfried in Genshin Impact, and my bet and hope is in Varka. In that case, I would even go for 180 pulls to get him, and his weapon
@@ShadowXImpact what Nicole said she meant by any god is general what she said was a small hint to Fontaines story since folcalors did achieve in defying fate like Nicole said abt them having a slim chance and folcalore did have a slim chance and was able to achieve that so what Nicole says about the gods being able to faith, I think she’s referring to God in general the shades could easily defy fate because they pretty much represented to a certain extent but Nicole was specifically talking about any god whether weak or strong and folcalors was able to only by pure strategy We don’t know how strong she was as a God, but we can guess that she’s at least as strong as venti and I don’t mean the whole “oh I’m the weakest of the seven” venti I mean venti as a god in his prime kind of thing and he’s definitely not weak now anyways again what Nicole was referring to about the gods having a slim chance she was talking about all whether they’re a higher god or a low god she still was talking about gods as a whole no matter if they were a primordial entity made by the original or a god born out of the nature of this world there still a god they still hold divinity first they hold some authority so they do have a slight chance in defying fate if there smart or strong enough to do so but it cannot be so easily achieved since it’s something predetermined so you’d have to find a way to work around that system of fate in order to defy while still following its rules, which is exactly what folcalors did Genshin used Nicole as a way of hinting to that of folcalors plan of defying fate I’m not disagreeing with you but I think you don’t give the archons enough credit though compared to primordial deities like shades, they still are gods and hold a certain extent of authority and power to grant their peoples wishes and they are all strong and their expertise venti is a trickster, zhongli feels like a strategist, ei uses raw power, nahida uses her knowledge and understanding, while folcalors deceives, in a way they could all potentially have a chance in defying fate if they use their skills and strength wisely against it Especially Venti since he’s a child of the god of time so he would have a greater chance, in defying fate in the rest due to him being the product of a primordial deity
@@isaiahhaley4816 yeah, okay, I could agree that it was a hint at Fontaine, but I also believe that this "God" thing is going to bite back at us in the future, and we'll have to figure out when these higher being meant the gods of Teyvat and when they meant the gods of the microcosm, I have this feeling...
As for Focalors, I don't think she was as strong as Venti in his prime. Remember that she's only 500 years old, at least as an Archon, so she might be on Nahida's levels.
@@ShadowXImpact folcalors is definitely stronger than nahida I mean her people had more faith in her over those 500 years then nahida ever had so she definitely stronger then her in some aspects, especially since nature is pretty much nothing without water and as for the whole god thing I don’t mean to be rude, but I feel like you hyper fixate on certain things and analyze a little too deeply if Nicole was talking about God, such as the shades or the priority one she would’ve said celestial beings or greater deities but instead, she just said God as in a god in general this fact is also proven out all of the archons constellations are of themselves meaning that they have higher authority over their own fate in our able to slightly defy it
Strange, no notification, iw atch it later , thanks for the HSR video
UA-cam things, I'm not even surprised at this point... I mean, it sends me notifications about my own posts in the community tab, as if they were written by someone else, so....
Anyway, take your time, the video is going nowhere!!! XD
According to Jade, she’s says all she needs to resurrect Akivli is Pom Pom’s tail. While our character believes she’s was joking there is a possibility she’s telling the truth
@@thedazzeledone regardless of the desire you pick, she will always reply with Pom-Pom's tail, so that was just dark humor and a way for her to tell the Trailblazer that she knows who they were
Quick question: When or where was it mentioned that imaginary is xipe's element?
@@qq1176 well, Preservation is about fire and the Trailblazer got Fire as the element, while with Xipe, the trailblazer got Imaginary. That was my thought process
Ah ok that's a fair line of thought. Interesting video as always 👌🏻@@ShadowXImpact
@@qq1176 thank you!!! XD XD
maybe the whole akivili terminus thing is kind of like 1 people cannot exist at 2 places and terminus is inevitable so akivili is blotted out. So the past has akivili and the future has terminus. like once akivili reached his end point at the end of the universe he now returns is a sleeping form back through rewriting history, idk sounds poetic and artsy.
@@meepatmeep8626 yeah, but still, Akivili returned to Pegana when they reached the end of their journey, so they didn't transform into Terminus when they reached the end of the Universe (if they even did it, anyway). An Aeon that died in the past can't be an Aeon who's traveling from the far future, unless Akivili was just a fragment (every Aeon eventually becomes a fragment) of what will, at the end of time, become Terminus. I guess we'll see, they're starting to give us something and now we know we need to keep an eye out for Terminus
@@ShadowXImpact do you think Akivili returning to Pegana could actually be Terminus travelling back in time to Pegana?
What if Akivili DID reach the end of the universe, achieved their goal as an aeon and are now travelling back through time as Terminus? What we know as Akivili "returning to Pegana when they reached the end of their journey" could be Akivili (who became Terminus) moving backwards in time, "returning" to Pegana.
cmiiw, this is just something i thought of while reading comments lol.
@@Palmtree_s but they died 5000 years ago, how are they traveling back in time from the end of time? And how did the other Nameless board the Astral Express, if they are traveling back in time to Pegana?
This is why I don't think they, alone, are Terminus, but Terminus is the accumulation of all the Aeons who died and will die, meaning that, when the last Aeon dies, so the end of time, then Terminus will be born to go back in time
@@ShadowXImpact My thought process was that Akivili's death/disappearance 5000 years ago is when they reached the end of their journey, and in that moment Akivili took place of Terminus at the end of time. Terminus then begins their travel backwards through time, "reliving" Akivili's journey in reverse (hence, Akivili/Terminus returning to Pegana at the end of their journey is actually Terminus travelling backwards through time to the very beginning of Akivili's existence).
I haven't done enough research myself to know if my idea is possible. I mostly intended it to be food for thought.
@@Palmtree_s I understood what you meant, but my question still remains. If they died in the past, how are they coming back from the future? Even with time dilation it would be hard to explain. Reaching the speed of light, would get Akivili to the future, but the Astral Express wouldn't have been able to come back to Pegana 5000 years ago, since the Nameless still use it. On the other hand, if the universe expands like ours, then it's faster than the speed of light, and to reach the end of it, Akivili would have traveled back in time 5000 years ago, they wouldn't have reached the end of time anyway....
Colourful UA-cam preview image. Really stands out.
@@davidjohnson8273 at least that came out good then
Lo shock di averti sentito parlare italiano ha hittato forte ngl
@@glassmunch ahhaahhahahahaahha
About dolly, pompom would've recognized her
About the Stellaron Hunters following the Path of Finality, it is more insinuated by Jade than said as a fact, she asked Firefly if the Stellaron Hunters follow the Path of Finality like her.
Which is as much of a bluff question to see if Firefly follows that path, as a real question to know if they all do, they might each follow their own path, Elio might follow Enigmata or Remembrance even if Finality makes sense.
However, when you look at the Stellaron Hunters splashart that you used to say that Elio was probably the black cat, you can see Kafka, Sam, Silver Wolf, Blade, the black cat and some crows, birds that are linked to Sunday just like doves are to Robin, and knowing that Jade made a deal with Robin/Sunday and tried to make on with the Stellaron Hunters, is that foreshadowing ?
@@gillesnotard69 I don't see that interaction the way you see it. Jade has an extensive network of information that allows her to basically know everything she wants to. I mean, she's not second in command for nothing.
She told Firefly that she follows her leader even though their goal is the opposite of theirs.
Jade follows an Emanator of the Preservation, and yet her powers destroys people's lives instead of protecting them. The same goes for Firefly. Her condition will put an end to her life, will cause her own moment of Finality, but her goal is to prevent that, so she's going against the goal of the path of her leader, meaning that Elio is an Emanator of the Finality.
I really don't think jade needs to bluff to figure out who Elio is, she already knows that just as she knew who Firefly was, even though she wasn't wearing her suit which would have instantly told her that she's one of the Iron Cavalry.
When it comes to the members of the Stellaron Hunters, Robin made a deal with Jade to free Sunday so that he could create that paradise he promised her. If Jade gives him to the Stellaron Hunters, how would he be able to fulfill that promise? That's why I see it hard for him to join the Stellaron Hunters, even though crows are the birds that represent him.
Still, there's yet another Stellaron Hunter we don't know, because Kafka recruited Blade, Firefly and Silver Wolf, so the one from her story has to be another one we don't know, since they recruited Kafka
@@ShadowXImpact I understand your point of view.
However, I don't really trust Jade with informations right now, it might be biased, but if she is the only one saying the Stellaron Hunters follow the Path of Finality, asking if they follow it like Elio, it's a bit too vague for me, I need a Kafka or a Himeko to say it.
My point about Sunday/Stellaron Hunters/IPC and the whole "paradise" is pretty much linked about the internal fight between Diamond and that other Nameless that Boothill seems to hate, Oswaldo. I can definitely see them freeing Sunday and giving him to the Stellaron Hunters to use them and ruin Oswaldo so Diamond could gain more power in the IPC, that would be a paradise for them, and a hell for him, pretty much government strategy.
The order of the Stellaron Hunters joining as always threw me off, I thought Sam was the first one, but Firefly's last promotional video show Kafka recruiting her in space. But since Silver Wolf met 4 people, does she count cat Elio as a person ? Was it the Trailblazer that recruited Kafka ? Still confusing to me.
@@gillesnotard69 to be honest, between Kafka, who needs to follow a script, so she's not entirely free to say whatever she wants, and Jade who is out there enjoying herself, I trust Jade more.
As for Sunday, I don't know. We know too little about Diamond, so it's hard to speculate. I do think it would be hard for Sunday to create a paradise world if he ends up following scripts after scripts, and we don't even know if Elio would accept him. So far, the hunters have been chosen by Elio himself.
As for the unknown Stellaron Hunter.... We don't really know when the Trailblazer was created, so he could have been the one who recruited Kafka. We know that he (Caelus for me) worked with the Stellaron Hunters, specifically with Kafka. Blade had already been recruited back then because he remembers about him, but I doubt Firefly met him when she was recruited, so he must have been put to sleep before Firefly was found. As a consequence, the fourth one from Silver Wolf's recruitment story should be Elio, because she says a man (Blade), a woman (Kafka), a metal humanoid (Sam) and.... because it's a cat and she doesn't say it at all, probably because it's not normal for a cat to recruit people, nor to take orders from a cat..... If it was the Trailblazer, she would have said two men or two women based on our choice of MC.
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I trust Kafka more because she doesn't lie about lying while having to follow a script, meanwhile Jade looks like she is just enjoying herself, but the tempting serpent lies and she doesn't say anything about that. You can see a spider's web, but you don't see the serpent's poison until you got it.
As for the whole script thing, since it's always what destiny has to say, either the overthrowing of Oswaldo is part of destiny, or isn't meaningful enough for the script. Because Stellaron Hunters do other things in their free time, so I could see Sunday joining them because he is needed for the script and the price to pay is helping Jade.
For the missing Stellaron Hunter, I still can see the Trailblazer, especially since Firefly comes before Blade, just that since our body is artificial and modified by an aeon, maybe Firefly doesn't know about it and she only remembers the other body, or maybe Elio wiped a part of her memory in some way, or her script just says that she can't reveal anything to the Trailblazer even if she recognizes him. But I saw a cute comic about Trailblazer helping Firefly saying powerful and dangerous things as Sam instead of what a nice girl would say, like "set the seas ablaze", so I might still be biased.
1:42 *Aventurine of Stratagems
quest "All the Sad Tales":
"???: Ugh, must I do all the work? Aventurine is the stone of luck and trickery... That's what she said when you received the stone, wasn't it?"
12:48 nice ....we got more and more hsr Story theories
@@Redishrat_Ch that's inevitable, the game has a massive lore, we need to try and figure it out! XD
More hsr vids pls!
@@oshello6940 I will try! I actually had fun trying to calculate when Akivili died using everything we know from the game, for example.
So yeah, I will make other Star Rail videos! XD
Imaginary is every Aeons' element not just Xipe
@@aomine.8907 so when the Trailblazer got Fire from Qlipoth, how do you explain that exactly?
And how do you explain that, out of coincidence, Dominicus, one of the four Harmonic Strings of Xipe, four Emanator of the Harmony, also uses Imaginary?
@@ShadowXImpactImaginary energy is basically the cornerstone of the Honkaiverse. Every other form of matter existing is technically derived from it. Qlipoth bestowing us with fire does not discredit the fact that the Aeons manipulate Imaginary energy to maintain their very existence and spread the influence of their paths.
@@ShadowXImpact Like the other guy said! This isn't genshin, They're not archon of said elements they presides over paths.
People still talk about there being more Stellaron Hunters because of Kafka's splash art when even the girl that appears up there does not even look like Firefly... If there were more Stellaron Hunters they would have mentioned them already. There are thousands of factions in Star Rail however people still grasp on that copium... I love the SH but I would not like them releasing two new stellaron hunters like "oh, we forgot about them".
However with Sunday, I can see an exception for him because if you watch the Jepella trailer when they show us a pic of all the Stellaron Hunters we see the cat that represents Elio, but there are some crows on the left part that actually are not even faded off so they are on the main image taking space, and I think that was a foreshadow of Sunday joining them.
And also, if we see their emblem, there are 6 stars surrounding a big star, that star I feel like represents the finality aeon, and the other 6 stars are
Kafka
Blade
Silver Wolf
Sam
Sunday
Elio
But honestly, Star Rail has so many cool factions that I would not like them bringing up more and more Stellaron Hunters, people is used to Genshin having mainly the fatuis but in Star Rail we can have multiple factions opened up. Boothill mentions that we will meet more of his Galaxy Rangers friends also.
@@sylvain_3 I don't list another Stellaron Hunter because of Kafka's splash art, I do that because it's literally in her character story. If Kafka recruited both Blade and Firefly, and all three (well 4 with Elio) recruited Silver Wolf, then please do tell me who the Stellaron Hunter during Kafka's recruitment story is, since it's all "copium".
And no, it's not about the devs forgetting about them, it's about mentioning someone and keeping them hidden until the right time. Just because they showed us the Stellaron Hunters, doesn't mean that they are obliged to have shown us all of them.
As for Sunday, that might even be the case. It would be interesting to see and it would give Jade's invitation to the Stellaron Hunters a new meaning, but then I don't really see how Sunday could create the paradise he promised Robin...
But still, that's just a possibility, while we know from the game itself, that there is, indeed, another Stellaron Hunter, one that followed Elio before Kafka was recruited, hence the 6 stars you talk about.
I don't really see what's the problem in having more Stellaron Hunters, though...
Im getting the vibe from jade that she is a trickster even more so then aventurine, at least to me I think she's lying about her IPC Connections being the cause of her deals, Specifically due to the price of Connections the gambler paid.
If anything i think her cornerstone power is literally the deals she makes with the power of the preservation effectively setting the trade in stone, specifically i think shes effectively trading ideas and concepts with people the detective wanted knowledge to catch a criminal hed been after so the price for this knowledge was his knowledge.
Now what did robin want, sundays "Freedom" to fullfill the pact they made as Children, and what do we know about the price Robin cancelled every concert she has which leads me to believe that her price was her freedom to bring joy to Universe through her song, Freedom for freedom.
Which leads me to the final question what did the gambler want again, Money or more specifically luck if what I've established holds true them what is considered to be of priceless vaule, Love and Family the price being connections isn't an outlier its the key to fully revealing how jades deals work especially if we assume the deals price and terms are enforced by the power of jades cornerstone then in giving the gambler a connection to wealth and money (Luck) jade in exchange gets the Conceptual value of every connection the gambler had before making the deal and that also means she could sell others that connection someone wishing for a family Boom Jades effective sudo reality manipulation by enforcing her deals onto Reality can give them the family they want for a price.
This begs the question what is jades wish.
It seems that no eons are able to reach the end of their own path not even terminus
@@muzehe1195 technically, you're right. Terminus will always go back to the beginning and begin a new cycle, so the path is endless. That's maybe why they are watching the Trailblazer very carefully, because he might be the one to bring Terminus their moment of Finality and put a definitive end to the cycles
Wait what quest does tb take over the reverie in?
@@Fullmetal_Gacha it's called "checking out", it starts from a message on the phone
So Jade is basically miss Yuuko from XXXHOLIC
Is Jade Professor X being able to read minds
@@marcusbullock2753 the thing is that Jade doesn't read people's minds, that's another Stoneheart's power
Maybe Robin gave up her fame???