In Defense of Papyrus (The Font)
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Written by Syd Cohen & Gabi Belle / syd.cohen
Edited by Owen: / donalds28__
sources we used:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus...%2 0font%20in,calligraphy%20pen%20and%20textured%20paper. www.fastcompany.com/3055865/m... other-most-hated-font
hipfonts.com/papyrus-font/
creativepro.com/what-makes-a-... www.britannica.com/topic/papy... www.vectornator.io/blog/bad-f...
/ papyrus www.cnet.com/culture/entertai... vatar-ryan-gosling/
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00:00 In Defense of Papyrus
2:46 Papyrus Avatar Logo Lmao??
4:45 hey,.... you're coole....
6:23 Papyrus is better than Comic Sans? Hot Take?
7:27 these aren't real chapters
9:11 polease comment: hey gabi. this video is really cool! thanks!
tags: #papyrus - Комедії
Gabi: *not knowing Papyrus was a thing before the font*
Me: *clicks on video thinking Gabi is about to do a video defending early paper making methods*
i thought it was when i clicked on it. was dissapointed, but still watched it cause it's gabi
I thought she would defend the fact that ancient Egyptians learned to make it thanks to aliens!
Me too
I had no idea this font existed till now...
I learned what papyrus (the paper & plant) was like 5 times between 3rd and 8th grade...and guess what? I'm in the US
Ok true story: I go to church with the guy who invented the Papyrus font. He's actually a really nice guy.
love that sm
@@itsgabibelle He plays music on stage pretty much every Sunday. He's such a sweet guy.
Goes to show that even good people can commit incalculable atrocities 🙏🏽😔
@@Naveen-tx8be agreed, church is an atrocity for sure
@@itsgabibelle why did u shoot eren ?
I thought u loved him.
I also ship eren x gabi lol.
Hating Papyrus used to be the cool indie version of hating Comic Sans, but it's gone totally mainstream recently
undertale real
@@lemonsmug SO TRUE BRO 😭
@@lemonsmug i was waiting to find a fellow undertale fan :P
@@lemonsmug Toby fox just picked the ugliest fonts
And I'll never understand it.
Papyrus is a font that radiates the energy of the ancient Egypt section of a history museums website from the mid 1990s that hasn’t been updated since 1999 that your teacher makes you use as a source for your high school research project as a scientific source
only Gabi could make an interesting and funny 15 minute video about a font
honestly here for it, I love deep dives into fonts
@Megan L i have not seen this video before, maybe we used the same sources for our videos. i’ll have to check it out!
Gabi makes great content but you cappin. There's more than a few Papyrus videos that people like, even the SNL sketch.
there's a whole documentary about Helvetica
Look up “I promise this story about fonts is interesting” it’s an actually really good video about all fonts in general
Bonetrousle goes hard and his fight mechanics are really fun, don't know why anyone would be against Papyrus tbh
Same bro. He’s so nice, and funny, and also adorable bro.
A bit creepy if you go on a date with him but he's a sweetheart
yeah, papyrus is a total sweetie, why'd anyone hate him?
Bonetrousle makes me wanna go 200mph on the highway
Yeah!
It should be noted that Papyrus originally did not have lower case letters. Those were added later which is why they don't seem to quite fit in
You should do a video on wingdings. I remember playing around with as a teen on my parent's computer. I never figured out what it was good for
It feels so much more complete with the lowercase letters.
It's just for old designs, like for early internet borders.
Basically just for graphics
In the old days of printing (like, the "literal movable metal block type" days of printing), "dingbats", or "printer's ornament's", were... well... "printer's ornaments" actually sums it up quite nicely, really.
They were type blocks or even _plates_ that had dots or squares or stars or arrows or snowflakes or pointing hands or little flowers or ivy-like designs or really _anything_ other than letters and numbers on them. Printers would use them to decorate page margins and chapter or section titles, add a little pizzazz to bulleted lists, fill empty space between paragraphs (or empty space in general), all kinds of "ornamental" purposes. If you happen to read fanfiction, you've probably seen (or been) an author who uses patterns of asterisks and carets and tildes between paragraphs or point-of-view changes. _This_ is what they have in mind.
Wingdings is WINdows' "DINGbat font" (see what they did there?). If you don't know how to use Word's more advanced decorative features (or you don't _care_ to learn, or you don't have the time, or you're living in the 1990s and those fancier features don't exist yet), you can set the font to Wingdings, adjust the size and color, and just use your _keyboard_ to decorate your text instead of having to deal with menus and downloading and licensing fees and all that junk. All you have to do is figure out which keys correspond to your (or your boss') favorite symbols and decorations.
It was never meant to be "read" like some sort of code; it's just your keyboard pulling double-duty as a basic art tool.
Windings was Microsoft's failed attempt at Emojis before they were cool.
i’ve always liked papyrus, but i think it was mostly because i was born in 95 and when i used computers in elementary/middle school it was the only non-boring font i could use that i could still read clearly. it’s still my go-to for chapter titles 😭
I was born in 90, papyrus and comic sans were the fonts of my time and I won't stop loving them just cuz people made it cool to hate on them. Specially as someone who struggles with letters cuz of my dyslexia, these fonts actually made it easier for me to read so people putting them down really broke my heart.
Confession: as a kid, Papyrus was my favorite font. I used it for EVERYTHING. I was actually surprised when I grew up and found out other people hated it.
Mine was that obnoxious curly font lol
I used it in middle school to increase page length unless the teacher said to use TNR or Arial
i felt the same way about comic sans as a kid
I was more of an Arial/ Verdana man
Mine was jokerman, which is arguably worse than comic sans but it looks so stupid nobody dares use it. I still don't understand why I liked it so much, I would try to use it for schoolwork but they (logically) told me to change it
Finally Sans' brother is getting some respect
It took a while, huh?
both the fonts comic sans and papyrus were mentioned in this video
this fills you with determination
i'm loving gabi's slow creep into being an official History channel show, eventually they will have no choice but to include her as part of the canon
I’m loving how gabi’s content is leaning away from commentary and more towards “I’m sick of this Wikipedia rabbit hole and I’d rather a funny person just explain it to me”. Funny videos explaining shit that doesn’t matter is my jam!!!!
All for Gabi doing her thing but I need to be in the right kind of mood to watch something as aimless as this
The innovation
HELL YEAA
She’s in her silly goofy era
@@pieofchart no yu dont
Papyrus is such an underrated character, tbh
Ikr
He's such a sweetie. 10/10 would date again.
fr fr
might be controversial but hes the better of the two skeletons
its funny how everyone hates the two skeleton fonts. middle school me had a crush on the short one
I liked Gabi and her videos since I first saw her, but she's really hit her stride, the writing and editing and alternate camera angles are rich with comedy and information at the same time. Excited to watch you succeed Gabi!
I just want to say that I love when you change from place to place. It feels like I'm watching a TV show and it's switching scene's. I don't know, I just appreciate that😌😅
can we appreciate gabi for breathing bc so many ppl stop every day
Yessssss it must be so hardddddddd😩😫✋
She better never stop
yoooo
Nothing is real...really.... breathing is no diff
This comment wild
The reason Papyrus is everywhere is because it's free, and compared to the other fonts you get free on your computer, it's one of the more unique ones. And also it's free.
Came here to say this, can’t beat free from a business owner standpoint lol
But is it free?
I wish small buisness owners knew they could just google "free fonts"
@@shuruff904 you betcha
@@UshioKiss but is it *really* free?
I found out why I love this channel. This is basically Noah Samsen without the bisexual lighting and engagement with explicitly political topics. Seriously, everything from the editing, comedic style, and memes are like exactly the same. And I think that's cool.
Can you please do a video about why windings exists? (I absolutely love it. It's wonderful.)
gabi’s videos are like those presentation parties but only the friend who is good at it is presenting
What's that?
Ayo, 'those' presentation parties? Great to know I wasn't invited to yet another Fun Event
what is a presentation party????????
@@iheartquestionmark1313 This is funny a dental assistant was talking about this at my last appointment really recently... so you get a group of friends to pick topics, make powerpoints about them, and then everyone meets up and has drinks and takes turns presenting.
@@nevadanate4957 sounds fun 😭
Everyone was thinking about Undertale while my ancient brain was thinking of paper
Lol same
Everyone was thinking about Undertale and paper, while I was thinking of the 2000 Gameboy Colour game Papyrus
I genuinely LOVE those new presentation style videos Gabi's been doing a lot of recently. They're always hilarious and leave room for a lot of creativity. Keep em up
i have absolutely no idea where this came from but when i was in middle school, we weren’t allowed to print anything with the papyrus font because we were told that it was a virus and would ruin all the printers in the school
Toby Fox has done so much to make both Comic Sans and Papyrus good again
I kind of wish this had been a collab w CaseyAonso. Shes so unreasonably passionate about fonts this would have been an immaculate cross over
TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN
Fonts
I write user interfaces. I have used papyrus to quickly debug what text is using in-line font settings and which is using the system font by changing the entire app to papyrus at the system level. When everything is papyrus, it's very easy to pick out something still in a normal font.
PREACH GABI!!! I'm a graphic designer and typography nerd and I greatly appreciated this video! Yes, the only things that make a font bad, that is badly designed, are a lack of consistency in style and a lack of functionality which largely comes down to issues with spacing. Huge kudos to Gabi for actually giving the correct definition of kerning! I feel like there are a number of people with graphic design degrees who think that kerning is the space between all letters, which is incorrect, tracking is the space between all letters. Kerning is the space between pairs of letter as Gabi correctly stated. I didn't know that Papyrus was originally bought by Letraset but that makes total sense. Letraset was a company that made these sheets of transfers that would have all the characters of a font in various sizes that were used by graphic designers to do mock-ups in the days before computers. You would use a burnishing tool and go over whatever letter you wanted to use and the letter would transfer onto your art, kinda like using tracing paper. Because Letraset was used so much in advertising and poster graphics there were lots of decorative fonts available as Letraset transfers, and it makes complete sense that Papyrus was one of them. The thing the designer never would have anticipated was that this decorative font that was meant to evoke something very specific would be given to the masses to be used for any random thing. My frustration with the hate towards Papyrus is exactly what Gabi explained, that it has appropriate uses and in the right context is perfectly fine, but it shouldn't be used for everything bc it has a very specific look. I love the designs on the Arizona Iced Tea cans, Papyrus is totally appropriate there, and I see nothing wrong with any vaguely mediterranean restaurant using Papyrus, that is what it was meant for! But it was designed for a different era. Nowadays a lot of decorative fonts have tons of alternate characters, come with border elements and cool symbols and dingbats and really give the user the ability to create logo designs with the font elements alone. Papyrus is decorative font that is very of its time and feels one-dimensional compared to what newer fonts can do, but it was well designed and doesn't deserved to be loathed (and judged) by so many... (especially bc so many of its most vocal opponents don't know jack shit about typography and use fonts that actually are badly designed (i.e. free fonts from dafont) without even realizing it....bc they don't understand that consistency and spacing are what make font design extremely difficult and Papyrus was actually designed by a pro)
this video truly touched my heart in a way only a 15 minute video about papyrus could
The paper? The font? The character?
Doesn’t matter they are all awesome.
hey gabi this is video is really cool! thanks! i love this font, it reminds me of all the signs in my small semi rural town that's full of funky buildings stuck in the late 80s. its truly comforting
This is perfect!!!! Im teaching my 7th grade students about proper presentation skills. This is a perfect example of how good presentation delivery can really make a difference.
"Is the font consistent?"
Yes, I get a stroke just looking at it every time.
Hey Gabi, this video is really cool! Thanks! I love when creators include chapters for my viewing benefit!
This is the content I want to see!! These recent videos have been SO GOOD! Another ancient aliens pleaseeeee
I'm one of those graphic design dorks, and I really love this video. It's far from a perfect font, but I never thought Papyrus was a terrible font!
Idk. I kind of like it. I think Chris Costello put his whole papyrussy in his font.
I could have gone my whole life without reading the word "papyrussy" but no, you decided that not only must I see that with my own two eyes, but probably from now on forever associate it with Chris Costello 😭
@@ensommeille5315 My work here is done.
😂😂
finally i can give my input on font discourse…. i’ve been waiting. anyways my personal gripe with papyrus is that it’s so cartoony that it’s always instantly recognizable. like when you look at a store name, or title, or menu, if you know exactly what font ur looking at (as a non graphic designer), chances are it’s gonna come off as cheesy. idk maybe i’m just too familiar with fonts but i don’t like being able to tell exactly what font they used without even having to think
As a graphic designer, this font was such a joke between friends during college that I printed an entire copy of my graduation thesis using exclusively papyrus
Thank you gabi. I just realised that the restaurant logo design that my parents made for their restaurant uses the papyrus font and now I don’t know what to feel about it
And I cannot un-know this knowledge.
Happy to see Gabi entering her Defunctland era ❤️
this is exactly the kind of content we've come to expect and love from you gabi
Your intro was pretty fun XD.
Love you, keep doing what this amazing videos.
Hell i didn't even know there was such a controversy over a font
Also hey Gabi. This video is really cool!
Comic Sans is still controversial today.
@@marissawolff8491 and it really shouldn't be. Justice for Comic Sans
@@bean2046 justice for dyslexics!
I really can't imagine being pissy about a font in the general sense.
Like, don't use wingdings for a funeral notice, but every font has a place and time.
@@KrytenKoro Well, now you've given me an idea for my funeral!
Gabi is basically if JennyNicholson made short-form content and uploaded regularly.
Based take
I miss Jenny. I wish she'd make more videos.
Oh, so THAT'S why I like Gabbi so much
hey gabi, this video is really cool! thanks! next you should totally do a follow up on the early form of paper
Letraset is also the company that made the Promarkers (alcohol markers for artists) before Letraset was bought by Winsor & Newton who rebranded the markers under their own name.
hey gabi, this video is really cool! thanks! i love when creators include chapters for my viewing benefit!
Am I the only one who'd never heard of the font and came here expecting a defense of some ancient paper?
Right here with you
Same here
my dumbass forgot both about the paper and the font and was expecting a character study on the undertale character
I knew it was a font not because I've ever user it but because Matthew Patthew talked about the skeleton bros being named after fonts
I love the history of fonts. So I actually found this video quite iinteresting. 😂 Thank you, Gabi!
So random I'm actually watching this on the 13th of February and shiping of letters actually got me laughing out loud. Love your videos, they always manage to cheer me up and have really helped me when my mental health is getting at me, stop me from spiraling down
Thank you
10:24 "To my understanding, which is no much" this is going to be my new go to phrase
I’m so glad that I wasn’t the only one who didn’t understand the broken clock analogy. I never once considered that the idea involved the clock not moving anymore.
I knew that was the point, but I'd always think "but what if its broken because its 4 minutes ahead?". Like, it's not that deep, there is no clock, it's just a saying, but I still let myself overthink it until I didnt understand it anymore.
And dont even get me started on "it's like comparing apples to oranges". That one makes even less sense. They're both edible, they're both fruit, they're both popular flavors of juice.
Does the analogy still hold if you use a 24-hour clock as opposed to the 12-hour clock?
@@ChristopherSadlowski yes but only for 48hr days
I really thought this was gonna be about the paper and was v confused but intrigued by the departure from ur usual content
You can make anything sound interesting. That is gold. Thank you.
I remember as a middle schooler making an “album” and using papyrus as the font for the name. One step away from comic sans in that setting
Where might I find this album?
@@lukejones0826 on a flash drive covered by hundreds of pounds of junk never to be heard by the public 😂
@@neatboutique1916 I would very much like to hear it, and last time I checked my name wasn’t the public
I remember the feeling of pure joy when I discovered this font for my 6th grade PowerPoint presentation on Mesopotamia. But this was back in the mid 2000s. This font now elicits unadulterated rage, especially when I see it used on flyers or to convey something serious. You have to get the kerning just right or else it’s a headache to read. Truly a cursed font.
need more font deep dives like this
Kerning is basically how much or how little two characters are allowed to "overlap" each other. If you imagine every letter and number in your typeface having an imaginary box around it, with proper kerning at least some letters and numbers are going to be poking into their neighbors' boxes. In the old days, back when "typesetting" involved literally _setting_ actual metal pieces ("type") into frames to compose literal _blocks_ of text, typefaces with kerning would be off-center on their type blocks, with parts actually dangling over the edges.
If your kerning is wrong or inconsistent (or not there at all), certain letter combinations, particularly those with slants and tails, can make words look stretched out and full of empty space, even if, mathematically, your spacing is perfect and even. Proper kerning moves the letters in those tricky combinations closer together or farther apart to make the apparent empty space between letters _look_ even and consistent, even though it means tampering with that perfect, precise spacing you worked so hard on. It's a little tricky to explain without visual aids. Take Google's hand and click around.
I thought Gabi was gonna talk about the paper type and honestly I wouldn't have minded that xD
Lol me too
Papyrus? Now this is the content I come to UA-cam for
i couldnt see the thumbnail at first and thought gabi made a video about papyrus from undertale and was SO curious as to why she needed to defend him
the goodnight moon cameo filled my heart. thank you gabi.
Gabi, I never thought you were an old guy... so many dad jokes and throw backs... laughing my ass off.... thanks for being so smart and entertaining
aight what did that goofy ahh skeleton do this time
more font lore pls
I made an ode to the comic sans font for my 8th grade poetry unit. If I was aware of the papyrus font sooner I might have made a poem for it too.
3:45 I legitimately thought that this was a video about old types of paper
I've been really enjoying the type of videos you've been doing lately, theyre so much fun and so interesting
when i was a kid i loved papyrus so much i trained myself to write in papyrus. hearing other people hate on it felt like finding out Santa's not real
This is amazing. Bravo to an interesting video about letters, basically.
3:44 Before you started talking about letters I genuinely thought this was a niche video about paper
What I’m doing at 23 is watching a whole breakdown of the origins of a font….crushin it
i love the many thumbnail changes and title changes
Hi Gabi. This video is really cool! Thanks!
Gabi's handing out passes like Oprah and I live for it
I thought this video was about actual papyrus. As in the paper. Boy was I surprised.
Lol me too
Nice profile pic btw
hey gabi. this video is really cool! thanks! also love when the pinky blazer comes out. it means it's business time babey
Yo this just unlocked a core memory of choosing papyrus whenever i started writing a "novel" as a pre-teen
Gabi explaining the Harry Styles joke in advance out of fear of it being misinterpreted is such a mood lmao
my dumbass thought she was gonna talk about undertale💀
fart fart fartv fart
I agree, thank you for your wise words.
slay
You have such a way with words
Thank you for this blessing of a comment Gabi, you truly are an incredible wordsmith
🔪🧀
g with the funny tail goes hard
Gabi love the videos, excited to see you blow up. Youll hit a mil within a year and a half im calling it lol! Wishing you the best
I’ve seen UA-camrs struggle to make good content about viral topics. Gabi out here making a deep dive into society’s history of humans before with a font
I always forget Papyrus is a font. At first, i thought you were making a video essay about papyrus paper. then 2nd was the papyrus from undertale...
If you wanna dive deep into fonts and their meanings, watch Linus Boman. I never thought I would be so fascinated by the history of typeface. He even has a whole video on Chinese American restaurant fonts!
hey gabi. this video is really cool! thanks!
Papyrus has always honestly been one of my favorite fonts lol
I have always unironically loved papyrus and I always will
I love love LOVE this style of content for u
"Auuu yeah baby this shit is rad as hell they did not mistep in making this a font which means absolutely nothing" for anyone that doesn't read wingdings
The editing on these videos is so good!!!!!
People of Egypt were carrying around clay tablets around and were like, damn this shit is heavy. Papyrus is probably the iPad of their day.
Overuse is definitely the big issue. All bundle fonts from the era of Comic Sans and Papyrus suffer from this to one extent or another. Regardless of how well they’re put together, they’ll never get out of the doghouse at this point. Especially with Comic Sans, there are so many alternatives out there at this point. Done better even. But it just won’t go away.
The worst instance of Papyrus in my neck of the woods is definitely a restaurant in an old house. They model themselves as a sort of inn/pub from yesteryear, and they like to advertise their wings as being some of the best in the state… So yeah, a restaurant, in a building that looks from the 18th-19th century, with a typeface that’s trying to look 2000 years old. 🤦♂️
Hey Gabi, this video is really cool, thanks!
True
James explaining how the broken clock analogy worked was the funniest thing
you are genuinely one of my favorite person, gabi belle.
Hey Gabi. this video is really cool! Thanks!
Love your take on this! I'd also recommend Linus Boman's video on the topic for more context from a typography standpoint :)
Love this content! Please do more videos like this!! Love from Belgium 💗🪩✨