I just tested my virgin pure water and is 340(cold) While the tap water is 317. Now I feel very sorry for buying it. Thank you for uploading this video and confirming that virgin pure is just a s@#t product.
Don't feel bad, they have extremely good marketing but glad you were able to test your own water and find out the truth too. My next video on Virgin Pure's coming soon so make you subscribe and check the alerts to make sure you're notified when it's online :-)
This is interesting. However, given that this is solely based of TDS, which includes beneficial minerals such as calcium, potassium and magensium it's not reflective necessarily of 'quality' water. (Although that could be subjective) The Zero filter has clearly removed everything including those beneficial components whereas the others, we really don't know what is contributing to those readings. They could be mostly beneficial particles or micro plastics and bacteria. That said, the huge difference with the Virgin Pure is surprising and suggests it's not doing much of anything so most likely won't be grabbing myself on of those. Thanks for putting this test together.
The minerals in the water are inorganic and therefore treated as toxins and filtered out so they are not beneficial😬 all of your minerals should be organic and taken from food
Omg! My jaw just hit the floor!! I wanted to rent one for the longest time. Was just about to order... Battery died.. Found this video... Thank goodness I didn't waste my money. Thanks for taking the time to show us the scores.
Thanks a lot, glad you found it useful! I'm doing a follow up video on it, you'll be notified if you've subscribed or check back on the channel in a few days if you wanna check it out :-)
The Brita filter will be showing higher as it's a new filter. TDS is also irrelevant when it comes to water, it's much better to focus on the taste and what it helps to reduce.
and a nasty hole in your countertop, that once they rack up there filters when product is Dead in 2 years your left with I personally wouldn;t invest in a product that do't have knockoffs to keep it going beyond virgins devision
“Anything under 200 mg/L (or ppm) is good and 100 mg/L is considered excellent. As the TDS level goes below this level (as the minerals are removed) the water has a lower pH and becomes more acidic or corrosive. ... TDS levels over 400 mg/L are considered non-potable (don't drink that stuff).” So Zero water is maybe not so good?
Have you tried the same experiment on Virgin Water again after flushing it several times? In the manual it even says to do an automatic flush if you have a brand new one.
My virgin pure machine gave much better results? Plus I love the fact that it produces nice fresh cold water, and hot water without the scale. I used britax and still paid a lot of money for the filters, the convenience of virgin pure, is that it’s on tap, no need to change filters every few weeks
Cool, what results did it give and what did you measure it with? This isn't just knocking Virgin Pure, I'm genuinely interested to see what other people are getting too :-)
I just came across your review after changing my filter with 6 months of use on virgin pure. You seem really knowledgeable and thorough in your research and know a lot about the topic. The Plus is that I don’t see the murkiness in the hot that I saw when I first bought the machine. What is the tool called that you use to test the water?
I'm yet to find something totally similar that's acceptable and I think a lot of people thought I was recommending Zero Water in this, which I definitely wasn't. I'm doing another video this week tho with some more tests and recommendations, if you subscribe to the channel then you'll be alerted when it comes out or check back every now and again to find it :-)
Thanks for this video, was thinking about getting a Virgin Pure but now won't. What do you think about the LARQ bottle? They say it uses UV light to remove all bacteria so there's no smell, do you think it's close enough to the water?
I've seen the LARQ bottle but can't say I've tested it enough to give a view. I know UV light for killing bacteria is controversial tho and it has to be reasonably high power to do anything substantial. The LARQ seems to be relatively low power so I'm skeptical about its capability but can't say anything bad about it given what I know. Sorry that's not more helpful!
Just to add balance, I have 3 T7 and 2 T6 in my depot and all of them give far better results than yours, we change all the filters when required including the lamp and honestly have never had a problem and water is always clear and recently tested with a similar tool which shows levels of between 174 and 206...just maybe your one single machine is not working as it should and of course all these type of tests should be done across several machines and not just one....like I said just my personal experience.
You can take out the cup shelf the top slides out the trip tray need cleaning and how long have you had the uv and filters in there is a bibo it is like the virgin one
Indeed I am Nigel! I'm doing another video this week - if you subscribe to the channel then you'll be notified when it comes out, or check back every now and again and you should find it :-)
hi mike, do you have any updated on your water filter system search? i read that people are having fishy taste in zero water, have you experienced the same? would you consider osmio zero or berkey water filter? thank you
This video is quite old does anyone have a update whether they have done anything regarding this also there are soo many mixed opinions here and it's confusing if it's good or bad 😞
Thanks for the video!! Was just about to order the virgin pure!! So saved me some money there!! Have you heard of BIBO water?? Is that any better!! I drink over a gallon of tap water everyday! I want a healthier option thats not guna be to taxing on my wallet what would you recommend for good quality and price! Is there anything similar to virgin pure thats any good??
Thanks for the comment. I've not tried or tested the BIBO water system so can't really comment, but I'd imagine it works in a similar way. I'm still looking for a suitable solution that ticks all the boxes, it's very hard to find for reasonable money tbh!
I'm very curious about this! How can the Virgin filtered water have TDS higher than the tap water, when that tap water is the water being fed through the filter system? Are there any fundamental differences in how the filtration processes are for filter jugs like Brita, vs filtered taps like Virgin, BIBO, Quooker? Thanks!
@@scentuniquebytracy1256 they add polyphosphate to break limescale bonds; it's a perfectly safe to drink salt. Also the TDS being higher in the hot water is likely due to this being a cheap TDS meter that doesn't accommodate for water temperature, which if true would mean all the readings in this video are void unless the temperature was the same for every other water. Regardless TDS is useless as a measure of water quality, mineral water for example has higher TDS because it has useful healthy minerals in it.
Wow. They have a new one now - guess that's no better? I'm shocked by this. I wanted to get one. I guess nothing else better exists like this? I bought a filter jug and it's been in the cupboard for a year, never used. So, I know I won't use one of those. :(
I was literally going to order one but though let's check youtube for the reviews first, cheers pal u Judy saved me some money I will not be buying this.
@@Leesadventure No, in the comments you'll see that Virgin say the TDS is increased due to "anti-scale inhibitors" that they use to keep the machine functional. If it was adding things we potentially want - calcium etc - they'd need tablets of elements in the machine that would deplete quickly. People buy these machines to filter water and remove DS / VoC's, not add anti-scale chemicals. It's an interesting exercise and am sure you'll find the comments useful, thanks for watching 🙂
You should wait for that cold water to cool mate. Temperature can influence the reading so testing the hot water was pointless, as it came through the same filter in the machine anyway.
Very helpful video. You saved me at least £500. I was about to buy the virgin pure. But I think I go with the sero water. I live in south west area of London with hard water. Many thanks
Arrgh so frustrating. I thought the Virgin Pure would be a game changer. Does anyone recommend a good water filter system. I just want clean healthy water to drink.
We don't have this issue with our virgin pure machine. We are in our 3rd year now. Clear water, tastes great, we are in a soft water area but we don't drink the tap water now it tastes of chlorine 🤮 I'd be asking for them to look into the issues with your machine, I've never had cloudy water. We had the T7 installed a good few months back, and I don't know about the price point, mine is £200 for the year then its mine.
I’m not sure what that meter measures and if the solids your measuring are bad or good. I’m pretty sure that all of those company’s would go out of business if they were lying about their claims. Have you approached Virgin and asked about it. Also our tap water is perfectly safe to drink and I would buy the Virgin thing for convenience not to buy into the false claim that we need to drink bottled water. We really don’t
The Virgin Pure is a very expensive lump of snake oil. I was considering buying one. But after seeing this video, I'm not doing it. Going to buy a Zero water filter instead.
The best thing to filter the water with is activated charcoal that's what should be in them water filters the rest of those substances should not be used those substances should not be used in the first place
Thanks for the comment Joe. If you look down the list someone said this before, but it was flushed by the engineer and by me multiple times before the video. The engineer should never leave it needing to be flushed, so this comment was dealt with a long time ago now. Hope you find a suitable machine and thanks again for the comment! 🙂
Thank you so much!!!!, Just found Virgin pure water today!!! And I was thinking of buying it! Found Zero water 2019 bought it for my niece she loves it! Definitely going for Zero water too.
This guy obviously has his issues with Virgin as a brand or maybe even a scorned ex employee. There's no way that the hot water comes out like that. The clue to this is that you mention you've just moved in. The system needs flushing out first after the transport in transit! It's is effectively like a fridge after all! You're very sketchy on detail but quick to pull the product down.
Absolute rubbish. Read the comments - it had been flushed, I’ve got nothing against Virgin and am certainly not an ex employee! Virgin explain the high readings on the hot as being down to the use of “anti scaling” chemicals in the unit. If you want to come up with absolute waffle like me having something against Virgin or being an ex-employee then at least read the comments before making a really silly one!
Good review, but one point to note is that the TDS meter is measuring water conductivity and using this as a proxy for purity. Water conductivity increases with water temperature a lot, so the virgin hot water is not comparable with the virgin cold water. The conclusion is probably valid though ie it doesn’t really seem to do anything much!
You are testing toxic water - why. If you pour water and it’s cloudy you would reject it. If your water is coming out of a purifier cloudy then it clearly hasn’t been set up properly. You’d have been better testing water from the storm drain. I very much doubt impartiality here.
I am surprised by this video as you are clearly wrong in your science with water testing. I am a fishkeeper of 20 years. TDS should not be used as a measure of drinking water. The process of removing dissolved solids from water is reverse osmosis (RO). I have an RO filter for my fish tank and can produce water with a TDS of 0. You are not supposed to drink water with a TDS of 0 as that means it has none of the beneficial minerals that you are supposed to find in mineral water (the clue is in the name). In fish keeping you have to re-mineralise the RO water with the right minerals before you use it. Thus taking out the bad stuff and creating the perfect conditions for the relevant species of fish. Your virgin pure machine has clearly not been descaled properly and you say it has had new filters but I would call virgin and get them to replace your machine. I am a virgin customer on the contract and have been so for many years. Also my place work has more than 20 virgin pure machines. I have never seen or experienced water as cloudy as you claim here from any of the machines I’m my office. As for the TDS, zero does indicate pure, mineral water should not be pure and if you was to drink only pure TDS 0 water only you would have massive deficiencies in your body. You cannot buy a virgin pure machine and not descale it regularly or use cheap filters, it will like filter stop doing it’s job. My advice, if you want good water don’t be cheap.
Hi Dangerousdeano. As much as you have accused me of being "wrong" in my "science with water testing" I'm afraid to say, with respect, that there's actually many flaws in your comment and not actually in the video. Firstly, reverse osmosis does not remove VOC's and other chemicals, which is why it's fine to drink water which has been through the RO process. If you watch the video, I mention Dasani, who got in trouble for stating that their water was "pure". You're right in what you say, you shouldn't drink pure water. But you seem to be confusing TDS with the removal of VOC's. It's absolutely fine to drink water with a TDS of 0. No one has mentioned (including me in the video) that TDS means "pure" or "mineral". In fact the only people that mention the word "pure" is Virgin itself... You've also made a number of other errors in your comment... Such as descaling. Did you watch the entire video? If so then you would have seen that I'd just had it installed, the unit was brand new. Other than it being flushed by the installer (which should leave it ready to use) and then flushed by me, it has not been used and has therefore not suffered from scaling. You can even see that the hole drilled by the installer hasn't even been cleaned yet - he left the sawdust around it - so it's clearly a new install. I am fully aware that saturated filters need to be replaced, so I can assure you that this is not a case of being "cheap", as your accusation suggests. Therefore, it isn't a case of lack of maintenance, scaling or anything else... It's a simple case of a poor quality solution from Virgin. You also say that you have never experienced cloudy water such as that in the video. May I suggest that you search for other reviews of Virgin Pure where you'll find a number of similar cases, such as this one: ua-cam.com/video/WKAJpXGRSRM/v-deo.html Hope that answers some of your concerns and counters some of your inaccuracies.
LiveLifeFast I will remind you of two things, I recommended that the item you have is faulty. Complaining about it on UA-cam will not get it replaced. Secondly the virgin pure water bar is actually made by Strauss. Check out their website. I’m sure if the product is as bad as you claim then Strauss will be very keen to hear from you. I am sure Virgin will replace the item but ultimate they are the box mover in this transaction, not the maker of the product.
LiveLifeFast oh and nothing wrong with my science. If there are worrying levels of VOCs in your tap water to start with I would first contact your water provider 🤣 You are the one measuring by TDS not me.
@@dangerousdeano Nope... You "recommended" that the science was flawed and that a brand new item needed to be descaled (🤦♂️)... Which clearly isn't the case. It says Strauss on the front so, as much as I appreciate the clarification, I was and am fully aware of the manufacturer. I did the video to notify people about the reality of the system tho, not to complain or tell them what's wrong with their hardware. You're more than welcome to send them this video if you wish, and they're more than welcome to comment. The filtration system is flawed, whether you have 20 years experience of keeping fish or not, regardless of how many of them your place of work has. I don't want it replaced so my aim is not to have it replaced. You wouldn't expect more dissolved solids to be introduced to your water by a "water purification system", which is the main point, whether you agree with it or not. You are of course entirely welcome to disagree, which is why I'm happy to leave your comments up, but you've not done a great job of providing a sensible or suitable argument as to why the video's wrong or inaccurate. You also mentioned "cheap filters" and that zero TDS "does indicate pure", which it definitely doesn't so, as much as I appreciate your comment(s), there's just too many inaccuracies to give it any credence, unfortunately. So criticise the measurement of TDS or refer to your fish if you want... It makes no difference to the video or the legitimacy of measuring TDS and demonstrating that the water provided by this machine is actually considerably worse than tap water and / or almost every other filter on the market 🙂
People, you want a water DISTILLER, not a filter or a purifier. Distillers are a bit harder to run, but a much much cleaner end result from the water. Look up the difference now.. no need to thank me later. Just get a distiller and enjoy clean water, and a good balance of healthy food. Take care people.
I don't think that's right tbh Ant. Distilled water doesn't have calcium, magnesium in etc. It tastes flat and isn't particularly nice - most places that use distilled water to drink add a tonne of electrolytes to it. I don't think it's a great option for domestic use.
@@LifeWithMikeG This is the most common response I get... The lack of minerals in distilled water. No one judges engine oil for the way it smells. Engine oil is to lubricate the engine and to prolong its service life. We drink or imbibe water to hydrate our cells. There is no cleaner hydration than distilled/pure water. Pure water is like a vacuum, and it wants to pick up things that it comes into contact with. This is why solids end up dissolved into it in the first place. There is a limit to how much can be dissolved also. The dissolved solids in bottled and tap water are inorganic minerals, which are picked up from the journey of the water once it has finished falling as rain. Even rain has a side issue with it. The water from rain, picks up particles in the air on its way down, so the first few minutes of rain water, will not be at full purity. It will be at full purity if it has rained for a while, thereby taking airbourne suspended particles down to the ground.. that is why the air is so clear after the rain. By the same process, once on the ground, the further the water has travelled, the more solids are redissolved along the way. There is the natural flow of water through the surface land, including agricultural land, and urban land; picking up particles, pesticides and pollution along the way. After the water has made its way through the land and flows into the rivers, you have living creatures that urinate and defecate during their life cycle, then their life cycle expires, become deceased; and decompose.. all within that flow of water. This is why, our water which is accumulated in reservoirs; periodically has to be tested for pathogens and viruses. Therefore it is then treated with chemicals and chlorine, for it to deemed safe for drinking. That is why every now and then, you run the tap; and you can really smell the chlorine. The minerals we get in water are inorganic, and unusable by our bodies. To get our iron, we do not suck rusty nails, to get calcium, we do not eat chalk or lick boulders. Organic minerals, which the body does need and use, comes from food. That is why fruit and vegetables are so important. The more natural/organic you eat, which will have been treated with less or no pesticides, the better for your body. In your own test, the Zero water filter, which reads 4ppm, is as close to distilled water as it gets, without actually distilling it. Another way to purify water, other than distilling or low efficiency filtration, is reverse osmosis.. which does the same thing.. purifies the water.. removing all dissolved solids. The taste.. to me, it is no longer weird.. It is actually the other way around. People have been used to bottled and tap water their entire lives.. so they think that is what water is supposed to taste like.. That is all they have ever tasted, so it is weird because it is different to what they are used to. Water with zero dissolved solids, has zero taste.. so people are used the tastes of the varying dissolved solids. Have a look at some videos about distillation, and the dissolved solids that are left behind off just one distillation cycle. If I poured the remainder/waste of 10 distillation cycles into a bottle, bet most people would not drink it! Once you see the brown-ness and smell that funk (it smells like damp/dank underground railway tube).. you know what you are taking out of your body. I have been on my own distilled water for a year now.. only storing and drinking from glass or stainless steel also. No bpa.. no plastic.. I can literally taste the difference now. Ice cold from the fridge, is the most refreshing and hydrating liquid I have ever imbibed. My vision has become more vivid, my skin has become clearer. I even have higher concentration levels, over longer periods. It believe it is all down to better hydration, and less processed sugar. So, the whole point of your video is to show the total dissolved solids in the different types of water you are presenting. Thereby proving the ineffectiveness of the Virgin unPure machine! Pure means zer0 contaminants. Distillation removes dissolved solids with the highest efficiency. Distilled water is cleaner in every way. I am fully researched and have tested and trialled it myself. I cook with it (Pasta, Potatoes, Rice, Soup etc) I drink it straight. To me, there is nothing better. I approve of its health benefits and its taste.
I'm a little late to the party, but this review, while it may seem shocking isn't the entire picture, and anyone that understands TDS will know this. A TDS meter doesn't tell you the quality of drinking water and what it contains, it only tells you the amount of Total dissolved solids present. They could be anything, good or bad! The virgin pure system removes 99.9% of chlorine (the reason I bought it), it removes microplastucs and biological material and kills any bacteria with the UV steriliser.. It doesn't, however, remove minerals, minerals which are actually good for you, such as iron and calcium, etc. These minerals are what is showing up on the TDS readings, The only way to properly test is in a laboratory.That will give you a breakdown of the exact contents of what's in the water. As an example the TDS readings in mineral water is normally 300+ As for the boiling water being murky, I have never once had this issue with mine. There is definitely something wrong with the filter in this device.. Dont concentrate on TDS guys, it's a very vague test and doesn't show you the bigger picture. Humans aren't supposed to drink 100% pure water! We need the essential minerals that come with it. It's a bit like taking the alcohol for a pint of beer..... pointless.
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I just tested my virgin pure water and is 340(cold)
While the tap water is 317.
Now I feel very sorry for buying it.
Thank you for uploading this video and confirming that virgin pure is just a s@#t product.
Don't feel bad, they have extremely good marketing but glad you were able to test your own water and find out the truth too. My next video on Virgin Pure's coming soon so make you subscribe and check the alerts to make sure you're notified when it's online :-)
They literally say on the website numerous times they do not take out minerals they only take out lead, pesticides and bacteria lol
Thanks for this was literally just about to buy one and came on UA-cam to see if I could see how it is installed. So so glad I did. Thanks.
Thank you for showing me this, I was about to buy Virgin Pure and now I'm glad I watched this. Thank you for your honest review!
This is interesting. However, given that this is solely based of TDS, which includes beneficial minerals such as calcium, potassium and magensium it's not reflective necessarily of 'quality' water. (Although that could be subjective) The Zero filter has clearly removed everything including those beneficial components whereas the others, we really don't know what is contributing to those readings. They could be mostly beneficial particles or micro plastics and bacteria. That said, the huge difference with the Virgin Pure is surprising and suggests it's not doing much of anything so most likely won't be grabbing myself on of those. Thanks for putting this test together.
The minerals in the water are inorganic and therefore treated as toxins and filtered out so they are not beneficial😬 all of your minerals should be organic and taken from food
Cheers mate I nearly bought virgin but I changed my mind much great full
Was just about to order. Not anymore ☝️
Omg! My jaw just hit the floor!! I wanted to rent one for the longest time. Was just about to order... Battery died.. Found this video... Thank goodness I didn't waste my money. Thanks for taking the time to show us the scores.
No problem at all, thanks for the comment :-)
My Virgin pure readings are:
Cold (5.0C) 38ppm
Warm (44.0C) 75ppm
Hot (66C) 92ppm
PH is 7.01
Decent readings, thanks for the comment. What’s your normal tap water as a base line?
One of the best videos I've watched on UA-cam, very informative. Thank you so much for your help! 😊👍
Can anyone explain how virgin pure can have a worse reading than tap water?? The water comes from the same place no?
Thanks I was about to order one
Amazing video! Great detail and you just saved me a lot of money
Thanks a lot, glad you found it useful! I'm doing a follow up video on it, you'll be notified if you've subscribed or check back on the channel in a few days if you wanna check it out :-)
Which machine that does hot and cold would you recommend
So useful video... saved my money
Thanks
The Brita filter will be showing higher as it's a new filter. TDS is also irrelevant when it comes to water, it's much better to focus on the taste and what it helps to reduce.
Late response I know, but you are 100% correct. All this video does is put people off that don't understand water filtration and TDS
Up here in the Lake District, our tap water is only 14 PPM so the Zero Water filters last at least a year before they need changing, it's great.
Best water 💧
Thanks for your honest review I will not even bother getting one
mate, you helped to save me £450, thank you !
and a nasty hole in your countertop, that once they rack up there filters when product is Dead in 2 years your left with
I personally wouldn;t invest in a product that do't have knockoffs to keep it going beyond virgins devision
this video gave me the answer i was looking for! Thanks!!
Thanks for saving me a lot of money!!! Was almost about yo buy a subscription
I have the newest version of the virgin pure…. I hope it’s better than your older one!!
“Anything under 200 mg/L (or ppm) is good and 100 mg/L is considered excellent. As the TDS level goes below this level (as the minerals are removed) the water has a lower pH and becomes more acidic or corrosive. ... TDS levels over 400 mg/L are considered non-potable (don't drink that stuff).” So Zero water is maybe not so good?
Have you tried the same experiment on Virgin Water again after flushing it several times? In the manual it even says to do an automatic flush if you have a brand new one.
Hi. It had been flushed many times before and the engineer flushed it and apparently left it ready to use before he left.
There is a new virgin pure one to see if they have improved or not...
Yes
Thanks a lot mate for that movie. That really helped to make a decision about purchase it…
My virgin pure water system is being installed on Tuesday. I’m going to order a TDS Tester. I will let you know how I get on!
Please do, will certainly be interested to hear how it goes!
How did it go Janette?
would be very interested to see the result with Virgin Pures major competitor, Bibo.
My virgin pure machine gave much better results? Plus I love the fact that it produces nice fresh cold water, and hot water without the scale. I used britax and still paid a lot of money for the filters, the convenience of virgin pure, is that it’s on tap, no need to change filters every few weeks
Cool, what results did it give and what did you measure it with? This isn't just knocking Virgin Pure, I'm genuinely interested to see what other people are getting too :-)
Good honest review, much respect.
Where’s the update for recommendations you mentioned you would be doing? 😩
Bit confused how the TDS can increase if the source is lower
Is the 2.0 Any better
Nearly bought it today, thanks for video!!! We also drink cosco bottled water and I was thinking to switch 😅😅😅
Thanks for this wonderful video , can you tell me what's the Bibo water filter machine results please.
Thank you❤
the only issue is that the virgin pure removes the need to travel back and forth and storage
Very informative video and I'm glad I've seen it. Thanks very much.
Which waterr dispenser is the best for home ? Best filter etc ?
I just came across your review after changing my filter with 6 months of use on virgin pure. You seem really knowledgeable and thorough in your research and know a lot about the topic. The Plus is that I don’t see the murkiness in the hot that I saw when I first bought the machine. What is the tool called that you use to test the water?
Hi Eddie. It's a TDS meter, you can get it from Amazon or loads of websites online :-)
How about bibo?
Any chance you could do a re-review on their latest machine to see if that’s any better?
Thank you mate- I was about to buy it today until I came across your video.
THanks for your review, please recommend which water purifier is good to buy ? in alternative or better than to virgin pure.
They add back the essential minerals though so is that not what you’re picking up?
Great review
Thanks for the comment, glad it was useful :-)
Same thing here, was about to order the Virgin pure filter one… thanks for this video I won’t!
Cheers buddy just saved me a lot of dosh! What are the best alternatives? That's similar obvs. 👍
I'm yet to find something totally similar that's acceptable and I think a lot of people thought I was recommending Zero Water in this, which I definitely wasn't. I'm doing another video this week tho with some more tests and recommendations, if you subscribe to the channel then you'll be alerted when it comes out or check back every now and again to find it :-)
Can you do another test with the Virgin Pure Home Water System 2?
how was electric consumption per day?
Thanks for the video but what exactly are the solids you were measuring??????
Thanks for this video, was thinking about getting a Virgin Pure but now won't. What do you think about the LARQ bottle? They say it uses UV light to remove all bacteria so there's no smell, do you think it's close enough to the water?
I've seen the LARQ bottle but can't say I've tested it enough to give a view. I know UV light for killing bacteria is controversial tho and it has to be reasonably high power to do anything substantial. The LARQ seems to be relatively low power so I'm skeptical about its capability but can't say anything bad about it given what I know. Sorry that's not more helpful!
Great advice
That was very interesting. I was just about to buy one.... I stay with my zero water jug. Thank you very much for the video! 🙂👍
Just to add balance, I have 3 T7 and 2 T6 in my depot and all of them give far better results than yours, we change all the filters when required including the lamp and honestly have never had a problem and water is always clear and recently tested with a similar tool which shows levels of between 174 and 206...just maybe your one single machine is not working as it should and of course all these type of tests should be done across several machines and not just one....like I said just my personal experience.
probe should be rinsed between tests with de-ionised water that has a reading of greater than 18Mohms
You can take out the cup shelf the top slides out the trip tray need cleaning and how long have you had the uv and filters in there is a bibo it is like the virgin one
Well Mike, are you going to look for a better filter system? I hope so because I am waiting :)
Indeed I am Nigel! I'm doing another video this week - if you subscribe to the channel then you'll be notified when it comes out, or check back every now and again and you should find it :-)
Glad i looked on UA-cam. So many electrical goods out there manufacturers should be fined for miss selling just like vw.
hi mike, do you have any updated on your water filter system search? i read that people are having fishy taste in zero water, have you experienced the same? would you consider osmio zero or berkey water filter? thank you
That's a great question I've been looking around seeing if anybody compares the Berkey to others and I haven't found anything yet have you
This video is quite old does anyone have a update whether they have done anything regarding this also there are soo many mixed opinions here and it's confusing if it's good or bad 😞
This is indeed reasonably old now and the new ones may well be much better 🙂
Thanks for the video!! Was just about to order the virgin pure!! So saved me some money there!! Have you heard of BIBO water?? Is that any better!! I drink over a gallon of tap water everyday! I want a healthier option thats not guna be to taxing on my wallet what would you recommend for good quality and price! Is there anything similar to virgin pure thats any good??
Thanks for the comment. I've not tried or tested the BIBO water system so can't really comment, but I'd imagine it works in a similar way. I'm still looking for a suitable solution that ticks all the boxes, it's very hard to find for reasonable money tbh!
I'm very curious about this!
How can the Virgin filtered water have TDS higher than the tap water, when that tap water is the water being fed through the filter system?
Are there any fundamental differences in how the filtration processes are for filter jugs like Brita, vs filtered taps like Virgin, BIBO, Quooker?
Thanks!
Apparently Virgin add “scale reducing chemicals” to the water… so you’re actually drinking anti scale chemicals!
@@LifeWithMikeG you say "apparently" add scale reducing chemicals, do you have evidence to substantiate this?
@@scentuniquebytracy1256 Yes… if you go through the comments Virgin sent a massive response where they say it, not me!
@@scentuniquebytracy1256 they add polyphosphate to break limescale bonds; it's a perfectly safe to drink salt. Also the TDS being higher in the hot water is likely due to this being a cheap TDS meter that doesn't accommodate for water temperature, which if true would mean all the readings in this video are void unless the temperature was the same for every other water. Regardless TDS is useless as a measure of water quality, mineral water for example has higher TDS because it has useful healthy minerals in it.
Wow. They have a new one now - guess that's no better? I'm shocked by this. I wanted to get one. I guess nothing else better exists like this? I bought a filter jug and it's been in the cupboard for a year, never used. So, I know I won't use one of those. :(
Thank you for saving me for buying a water filter from virgin pure
I was literally going to order one but though let's check youtube for the reviews first, cheers pal u Judy saved me some money I will not be buying this.
Not all tds are mad. Virgin clearly state that calcium magnesium and potassium are retained. Do more research guys.
Thanks for the comment. No one said all dissolved solids are bad… much more info on the comments below.
@LifeWithMikeG No. But you are measuring tds and making out like the heighter number is a bad thing no?
@@Leesadventure No, in the comments you'll see that Virgin say the TDS is increased due to "anti-scale inhibitors" that they use to keep the machine functional. If it was adding things we potentially want - calcium etc - they'd need tablets of elements in the machine that would deplete quickly. People buy these machines to filter water and remove DS / VoC's, not add anti-scale chemicals. It's an interesting exercise and am sure you'll find the comments useful, thanks for watching 🙂
You should wait for that cold water to cool mate. Temperature can influence the reading so testing the hot water was pointless, as it came through the same filter in the machine anyway.
Very helpful video. You saved me at least £500. I was about to buy the virgin pure. But I think I go with the sero water. I live in south west area of London with hard water.
Many thanks
Thanks a lot for the comment and glad it helped out :-)
Zero water filter are the best so I’m stick them forever but it expensive but best ever to drink it
Arrgh so frustrating. I thought the Virgin Pure would be a game changer. Does anyone recommend a good water filter system. I just want clean healthy water to drink.
Just buy a distiller! Omly cost is electricity to run it and the water purity can't be beaten. Unit costs around £100.
You’ve just saved my Kitchen and saved me money, I think I owe you a drink! Virgin Pure more like “Virgin Wh*re”
We don't have this issue with our virgin pure machine. We are in our 3rd year now. Clear water, tastes great, we are in a soft water area but we don't drink the tap water now it tastes of chlorine 🤮 I'd be asking for them to look into the issues with your machine, I've never had cloudy water. We had the T7 installed a good few months back, and I don't know about the price point, mine is £200 for the year then its mine.
Thanks for the comment. Have you tested the water that comes out of it at all? Would be interested to know what you're getting.
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I’m not sure what that meter measures and if the solids your measuring are bad or good. I’m pretty sure that all of those company’s would go out of business if they were lying about their claims. Have you approached Virgin and asked about it. Also our tap water is perfectly safe to drink and I would buy the Virgin thing for convenience not to buy into the false claim that we need to drink bottled water. We really don’t
Hi Laura. Please see the comments below, where all of this is addressed.
Great video, I was going to buy it now I won’t!
I changed from this to a BIBO and wouldn’t go back to a virgin unit now. The BIBO can do so much more and cheaper.
Great video, 10 out of 10 , very informative, thank you
I was going to buy one when I move, not anymore
Klarna jug any good?
The Virgin Pure is a very expensive lump of snake oil. I was considering buying one. But after seeing this video, I'm not doing it. Going to buy a Zero water filter instead.
The best thing to filter the water with is activated charcoal that's what should be in them water filters the rest of those substances should not be used those substances should not be used in the first place
Your water from the virgin pure machine should not be merky at all. You have not flushed it properly. Should be clear
Thanks for the comment Joe. If you look down the list someone said this before, but it was flushed by the engineer and by me multiple times before the video. The engineer should never leave it needing to be flushed, so this comment was dealt with a long time ago now. Hope you find a suitable machine and thanks again for the comment! 🙂
Thank you so much!!!!, Just found Virgin pure water today!!! And I was thinking of buying it! Found Zero water 2019 bought it for my niece she loves it! Definitely going for Zero water too.
Zero Water is very expensive but seems to provide the best water out of these ones.
This is a quality video mate. I wonder how much BPA comes out of those shitty costco bottles though.
Yeah I'd be interested to see... They feel pretty flimsy so I've always preferred Smart Water, but this may have made me change my mind!
Hi what's BPA?
Is Costco water a better option to buy? @lifewithmike
What’s the best water filter in the uk?
Zero water filter 😊
This guy obviously has his issues with Virgin as a brand or maybe even a scorned ex employee.
There's no way that the hot water comes out like that. The clue to this is that you mention you've just moved in. The system needs flushing out first after the transport in transit! It's is effectively like a fridge after all!
You're very sketchy on detail but quick to pull the product down.
Absolute rubbish. Read the comments - it had been flushed, I’ve got nothing against Virgin and am certainly not an ex employee! Virgin explain the high readings on the hot as being down to the use of “anti scaling” chemicals in the unit. If you want to come up with absolute waffle like me having something against Virgin or being an ex-employee then at least read the comments before making a really silly one!
Brilliant! Thank you so much clearly not doing anything. Another reason to be a little tired of Richard Branson
Good review, but one point to note is that the TDS meter is measuring water conductivity and using this as a proxy for purity.
Water conductivity increases with water temperature a lot, so the virgin hot water is not comparable with the virgin cold water. The conclusion is probably valid though ie it doesn’t really seem to do anything much!
You are testing toxic water - why. If you pour water and it’s cloudy you would reject it. If your water is coming out of a purifier cloudy then it clearly hasn’t been set up properly. You’d have been better testing water from the storm drain. I very much doubt impartiality here.
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Wow that is crazy. That is so bad… and to think i was about to dish out £35 per month wtf.
I am surprised by this video as you are clearly wrong in your science with water testing. I am a fishkeeper of 20 years. TDS should not be used as a measure of drinking water. The process of removing dissolved solids from water is reverse osmosis (RO). I have an RO filter for my fish tank and can produce water with a TDS of 0. You are not supposed to drink water with a TDS of 0 as that means it has none of the beneficial minerals that you are supposed to find in mineral water (the clue is in the name). In fish keeping you have to re-mineralise the RO water with the right minerals before you use it. Thus taking out the bad stuff and creating the perfect conditions for the relevant species of fish.
Your virgin pure machine has clearly not been descaled properly and you say it has had new filters but I would call virgin and get them to replace your machine.
I am a virgin customer on the contract and have been so for many years. Also my place work has more than 20 virgin pure machines. I have never seen or experienced water as cloudy as you claim here from any of the machines I’m my office.
As for the TDS, zero does indicate pure, mineral water should not be pure and if you was to drink only pure TDS 0 water only you would have massive deficiencies in your body. You cannot buy a virgin pure machine and not descale it regularly or use cheap filters, it will like filter stop doing it’s job. My advice, if you want good water don’t be cheap.
Hi Dangerousdeano. As much as you have accused me of being "wrong" in my "science with water testing" I'm afraid to say, with respect, that there's actually many flaws in your comment and not actually in the video. Firstly, reverse osmosis does not remove VOC's and other chemicals, which is why it's fine to drink water which has been through the RO process. If you watch the video, I mention Dasani, who got in trouble for stating that their water was "pure". You're right in what you say, you shouldn't drink pure water. But you seem to be confusing TDS with the removal of VOC's. It's absolutely fine to drink water with a TDS of 0. No one has mentioned (including me in the video) that TDS means "pure" or "mineral". In fact the only people that mention the word "pure" is Virgin itself...
You've also made a number of other errors in your comment... Such as descaling. Did you watch the entire video? If so then you would have seen that I'd just had it installed, the unit was brand new. Other than it being flushed by the installer (which should leave it ready to use) and then flushed by me, it has not been used and has therefore not suffered from scaling. You can even see that the hole drilled by the installer hasn't even been cleaned yet - he left the sawdust around it - so it's clearly a new install. I am fully aware that saturated filters need to be replaced, so I can assure you that this is not a case of being "cheap", as your accusation suggests. Therefore, it isn't a case of lack of maintenance, scaling or anything else... It's a simple case of a poor quality solution from Virgin.
You also say that you have never experienced cloudy water such as that in the video. May I suggest that you search for other reviews of Virgin Pure where you'll find a number of similar cases, such as this one: ua-cam.com/video/WKAJpXGRSRM/v-deo.html
Hope that answers some of your concerns and counters some of your inaccuracies.
LiveLifeFast I will remind you of two things, I recommended that the item you have is faulty. Complaining about it on UA-cam will not get it replaced. Secondly the virgin pure water bar is actually made by Strauss. Check out their website. I’m sure if the product is as bad as you claim then Strauss will be very keen to hear from you. I am sure Virgin will replace the item but ultimate they are the box mover in this transaction, not the maker of the product.
LiveLifeFast oh and nothing wrong with my science. If there are worrying levels of VOCs in your tap water to start with I would first contact your water provider 🤣
You are the one measuring by TDS not me.
@@dangerousdeano Nope... You "recommended" that the science was flawed and that a brand new item needed to be descaled (🤦♂️)... Which clearly isn't the case. It says Strauss on the front so, as much as I appreciate the clarification, I was and am fully aware of the manufacturer. I did the video to notify people about the reality of the system tho, not to complain or tell them what's wrong with their hardware. You're more than welcome to send them this video if you wish, and they're more than welcome to comment.
The filtration system is flawed, whether you have 20 years experience of keeping fish or not, regardless of how many of them your place of work has. I don't want it replaced so my aim is not to have it replaced. You wouldn't expect more dissolved solids to be introduced to your water by a "water purification system", which is the main point, whether you agree with it or not. You are of course entirely welcome to disagree, which is why I'm happy to leave your comments up, but you've not done a great job of providing a sensible or suitable argument as to why the video's wrong or inaccurate.
You also mentioned "cheap filters" and that zero TDS "does indicate pure", which it definitely doesn't so, as much as I appreciate your comment(s), there's just too many inaccuracies to give it any credence, unfortunately.
So criticise the measurement of TDS or refer to your fish if you want... It makes no difference to the video or the legitimacy of measuring TDS and demonstrating that the water provided by this machine is actually considerably worse than tap water and / or almost every other filter on the market 🙂
LiveLifeFast you’re still missing the point. You’re trying to discredit a product on what is clearly a faulty filter. Great review 👍🏻
This test tells you nothing about quality of water
People, you want a water DISTILLER, not a filter or a purifier.
Distillers are a bit harder to run, but a much much cleaner end result from the water.
Look up the difference now.. no need to thank me later.
Just get a distiller and enjoy clean water, and a good balance of healthy food.
Take care people.
I don't think that's right tbh Ant. Distilled water doesn't have calcium, magnesium in etc. It tastes flat and isn't particularly nice - most places that use distilled water to drink add a tonne of electrolytes to it. I don't think it's a great option for domestic use.
@@LifeWithMikeG This is the most common response I get... The lack of minerals in distilled water.
No one judges engine oil for the way it smells.
Engine oil is to lubricate the engine and to prolong its service life.
We drink or imbibe water to hydrate our cells.
There is no cleaner hydration than distilled/pure water.
Pure water is like a vacuum, and it wants to pick up things that it comes into contact with.
This is why solids end up dissolved into it in the first place. There is a limit to how much can be dissolved also.
The dissolved solids in bottled and tap water are inorganic minerals, which are picked up from the journey of the water once it has finished falling as rain.
Even rain has a side issue with it.
The water from rain, picks up particles in the air on its way down, so the first few minutes of rain water, will not be at full purity.
It will be at full purity if it has rained for a while, thereby taking airbourne suspended particles down to the ground.. that is why the air is so clear after the rain.
By the same process, once on the ground, the further the water has travelled, the more solids are redissolved along the way.
There is the natural flow of water through the surface land, including agricultural land, and urban land; picking up particles, pesticides and pollution along the way.
After the water has made its way through the land and flows into the rivers, you have living creatures that urinate and defecate during their life cycle, then their life cycle expires, become deceased; and decompose.. all within that flow of water.
This is why, our water which is accumulated in reservoirs; periodically has to be tested for pathogens and viruses.
Therefore it is then treated with chemicals and chlorine, for it to deemed safe for drinking.
That is why every now and then, you run the tap; and you can really smell the chlorine.
The minerals we get in water are inorganic, and unusable by our bodies.
To get our iron, we do not suck rusty nails, to get calcium, we do not eat chalk or lick boulders.
Organic minerals, which the body does need and use, comes from food.
That is why fruit and vegetables are so important.
The more natural/organic you eat, which will have been treated with less or no pesticides, the better for your body.
In your own test, the Zero water filter, which reads 4ppm, is as close to distilled water as it gets, without actually distilling it.
Another way to purify water, other than distilling or low efficiency filtration, is reverse osmosis.. which does the same thing.. purifies the water.. removing all dissolved solids.
The taste.. to me, it is no longer weird..
It is actually the other way around.
People have been used to bottled and tap water their entire lives.. so they think that is what water is supposed to taste like..
That is all they have ever tasted, so it is weird because it is different to what they are used to.
Water with zero dissolved solids, has zero taste.. so people are used the tastes of the varying dissolved solids.
Have a look at some videos about distillation, and the dissolved solids that are left behind off just one distillation cycle.
If I poured the remainder/waste of 10 distillation cycles into a bottle, bet most people would not drink it!
Once you see the brown-ness and smell that funk (it smells like damp/dank underground railway tube).. you know what you are taking out of your body.
I have been on my own distilled water for a year now.. only storing and drinking from glass or stainless steel also.
No bpa.. no plastic.. I can literally taste the difference now.
Ice cold from the fridge, is the most refreshing and hydrating liquid I have ever imbibed.
My vision has become more vivid, my skin has become clearer.
I even have higher concentration levels, over longer periods.
It believe it is all down to better hydration, and less processed sugar.
So, the whole point of your video is to show the total dissolved solids in the different types of water you are presenting.
Thereby proving the ineffectiveness of the Virgin unPure machine!
Pure means zer0 contaminants.
Distillation removes dissolved solids with the highest efficiency.
Distilled water is cleaner in every way.
I am fully researched and have tested and trialled it myself.
I cook with it (Pasta, Potatoes, Rice, Soup etc) I drink it straight.
To me, there is nothing better.
I approve of its health benefits and its taste.
Wow they are ringing me today to take payment , Thankyou I won’t be buying it
Ooh, Richard Branson won't like that!
Thank you! I won’t get Virgin.
Stopped me buying this, thanks
I'm a little late to the party, but this review, while it may seem shocking isn't the entire picture, and anyone that understands TDS will know this.
A TDS meter doesn't tell you the quality of drinking water and what it contains, it only tells you the amount of Total dissolved solids present.
They could be anything, good or bad!
The virgin pure system removes 99.9% of chlorine (the reason I bought it), it removes microplastucs and biological material and kills any bacteria with the UV steriliser..
It doesn't, however, remove minerals, minerals which are actually good for you, such as iron and calcium, etc.
These minerals are what is showing up on the TDS readings,
The only way to properly test is in a laboratory.That will give you a breakdown of the exact contents of what's in the water.
As an example the TDS readings in mineral water is normally 300+
As for the boiling water being murky, I have never once had this issue with mine. There is definitely something wrong with the filter in this device..
Dont concentrate on TDS guys, it's a very vague test and doesn't show you the bigger picture.
Humans aren't supposed to drink 100% pure water! We need the essential minerals that come with it.
It's a bit like taking the alcohol for a pint of beer..... pointless.
Hi, thanks for the comment! This has all been addressed further down the comments 🙂