A.C. as a former firefighter, I always have my scanner on and that day was no exception. The call started as an over heated motor in the warehouse elevator shaft. It was difficult to get to and the fire grew increasingly larger. It quickly went to an all hands fire with the off shifts being recalled. The major problem with the fire was not only the tires as fuel, but the walls of the building were very thick making it difficult to get water on the fire. At one point 2 firefighters became disoriented and they called out for a "MAYDAY". Thankfully others were able to get to them and get them out. At that time Evacuation tones were ordered by the Assistant Chief and defensive positions were taken. At one point, Dunmore's ladder truck had to be re-positioned because it was in the collapse zone. Again, luckily it was moved just in time as the South side of the building came crashing down right where it had been parked.
We drove thru Scranton area a lot going back and forth from Pennsylvania and Massachusetts, and I was very interested in the timing of the fire, but it was July when we were there that summer. We were even in different cars, leaving at different times.
When you talk about huge fires burning for days, our little part of Pennsylvania has had its share over the years. It is incredible the amount of havoc some of these fires can wreak. There was one time, the fire was national news, it was seen on the news in California, Texas, Virginia, Florida, it seems like it was every where. *March 1990. It was arson. Five children died and one adult. It was said somebody set fire to the house knowing children were sleeping inside.* Three houses burned. It could be seen for miles. It was horrific.
Tire and plastics fire are terrible. The smell and toxic fumes are nasty. I've seen both. Many years ago while in my twenties I seen some of of a huge tire fire in Hagersville, Ontario. It burned for weeks. The plastic fire was in Lackawanna, New York at the old Bethlehem Steel beside Republic Steel outsid of Buffalo, NY. I was on my way to Westfield, NY. Black smoke going high in the sky and the smell was toxic. You could still smell the stink at 8pm in Fort Erie when I returned home. There video of the fire on You Tube. Thank you for the shout out and thank you for answering my question. Excellent video as always.
The fire at the Bethlehem steel in Lackawanna, NY was in 2016. The tire fire in Hagersville, Ontario was Feb. 20 1990 and burned for 17 days. Sorry but I was 35 then.
I helped fight a 1.5 million tire fire at a friend of mines house. They had a tire salvage yard and was getting ready for a tire shredder to come in and the farmer that farmer up next to them his combine started on fire and it spread to the tires. We probably used a thousand gallons of foam to get it out. Had 18 fire departments fighting it.
In 1998 there was a tire fire on a rail car on a southbound CP train. I watched the burning car go by my house. They stopped the train just south of the Nicholson bridge. They disconnected the train and fought the fire right there. They fought it all night. It was strange to see fire trucks crossing the Nicholson bridge.
Those seven D lumber outfits you mentioned in the video,we had a few in my home state of Connecticut, including one that was rail served by the CSOR ( Connecticut southern RR) almost daily in the Hartford CT area.
Tire fires are the worst. There was a huge one a decade ago in a yard in West Virginia when I lived there that burned hot and hard for 5 days. If only they could harness that energy for good.
@@sandrajones2262 Yes, Centralia, PA. I've been there and walked miles around. The place is pretty freaky as abandoned towns go, although it was much worse in earlier times. Sad how a few people's mistakes led to decades of disaster, lives ruined, and a resource destroyed.
This Reminds me of the C&A railroad fire in 1987 in Bloomington IL. Also Known as the rail yard or 40 acres I know some people that have a book on it before it burnt down, Said to had been set on fire a couple times, I had a dream that night it was on fire and my mom said it was a bad dream, walked me to the window and put me back to sleep, when I woke back up I heard loud crackling and saw bright light and my mom sister's dad and sisters outside looking at it my mom came up screaming at me that night how did I know I told her I dreamed it I was born in 1983. When I saw the article article a couple years ago I told an old friend coroner in Bloomington and now I can't find the article at all but the article said it was said to have been set on fire a couple times I think 87 and 89?
The lumber company building sure looks like an old freight house design with the office at the far end, two parallel tracks at the RR dock side, and the opposite side probably for trucks. Larger freight houses would often have two tracks at the dock and cars on the outer track would be unloaded by putting plates between their doors and the inner track car doors. Could this building have originally been owned by a railroad?
Indeed it was, it's the old D&H freight depot and the two tracks are what's left of the old Lackawanna small yard that was here. This was a DL&W and D&H interchange yard. The tracks are not stub ended either, they go all the way through and make up the D&H Vine Street Branch that went north for about a mile to the D&H Green Ridge Yard, now occupied by the Delaware & Lackawanna Shortline. So in summary, the two tracks (the yard) were the meeting place for the Lackawanna Diamond Branch and the D&H Vine Street Branch.
I don't know for sure, but I believe that may be why 7D pulled out.. The D-L does still go there to a salt transload, but only occasionally.. Sometimes less than once a month!
A.C. as a former firefighter, I always have my scanner on and that day was no exception. The call started as an over heated motor in the warehouse elevator shaft. It was difficult to get to and the fire grew increasingly larger. It quickly went to an all hands fire with the off shifts being recalled. The major problem with the fire was not only the tires as fuel, but the walls of the building were very thick making it difficult to get water on the fire. At one point 2 firefighters became disoriented and they called out for a "MAYDAY". Thankfully others were able to get to them and get them out. At that time Evacuation tones were ordered by the Assistant Chief and defensive positions were taken. At one point, Dunmore's ladder truck had to be re-positioned because it was in the collapse zone. Again, luckily it was moved just in time as the South side of the building came crashing down right where it had been parked.
Wow.. Thanks so much for that insight.
We drove thru Scranton area a lot going back and forth from Pennsylvania and Massachusetts, and I was very interested in the timing of the fire, but it was July when we were there that summer. We were even in different cars, leaving at different times.
When you talk about huge fires burning for days, our little part of Pennsylvania has had its share over the years. It is incredible the amount of havoc some of these fires can wreak. There was one time, the fire was national news, it was seen on the news in California, Texas, Virginia, Florida, it seems like it was every where. *March 1990. It was arson. Five children died and one adult. It was said somebody set fire to the house knowing children were sleeping inside.* Three houses burned. It could be seen for miles. It was horrific.
Tire and plastics fire are terrible. The smell and toxic fumes are nasty. I've seen both. Many years ago while in my twenties I seen some of of a huge tire fire in Hagersville, Ontario. It burned for weeks. The plastic fire was in Lackawanna, New York at the old Bethlehem Steel beside Republic Steel outsid of Buffalo, NY. I was on my way to Westfield, NY. Black smoke going high in the sky and the smell was toxic. You could still smell the stink at 8pm in Fort Erie when I returned home. There video of the fire on You Tube. Thank you for the shout out and thank you for answering my question. Excellent video as always.
The fire at the Bethlehem steel in Lackawanna, NY was in 2016. The tire fire in Hagersville, Ontario was Feb. 20 1990 and burned for 17 days. Sorry but I was 35 then.
Never a problem Hans.. Thanks for being a loyal viewer.
I helped fight a 1.5 million tire fire at a friend of mines house. They had a tire salvage yard and was getting ready for a tire shredder to come in and the farmer that farmer up next to them his combine started on fire and it spread to the tires. We probably used a thousand gallons of foam to get it out. Had 18 fire departments fighting it.
That's incredible, thanks for sharing.
In 1998 there was a tire fire on a rail car on a southbound CP train. I watched the burning car go by my house. They stopped the train just south of the Nicholson bridge. They disconnected the train and fought the fire right there. They fought it all night. It was strange to see fire trucks crossing the Nicholson bridge.
That must have been a sight, thanks for sharing.
I love that slogan: High Ground Industries: We can wreck anything.
Yeah, that was cool.. That's why I zoomed in on it!
Those seven D lumber outfits you mentioned in the video,we had a few in my home state of Connecticut, including one that was rail served by the CSOR ( Connecticut southern RR) almost daily in the Hartford CT area.
Thanks for sharing!!
Back in the 60’s that building was known as Lackawanna Cold Storage.
Good video A.C. Sad that the building burned. At least no one was hurt at that time i hope!
No injuries that I know of.
Holy smokes! (No pun intended.) You weren't kidding! Such a bummer that building burned down. Sure put in a show in the process though.
That's right!
👌👍Thanks AC for your excellent footage very sad reminds me of the Markell fire in Elmwood Park NJ TOTAL LOSS.That cnj looks mighty fine
No problem DJ, thanks for watching.
This would be considered one of the Worst Case scenarios for a Fire and for Firefighters to Fight.
Tire fires are the worst. There was a huge one a decade ago in a yard in West Virginia when I lived there that burned hot and hard for 5 days. If only they could harness that energy for good.
Do you know about the fire underground in Pennsylvania? I think it's in a coal mine. They just couldn't put it out.
@@sandrajones2262 Yes, Centralia, PA. I've been there and walked miles around. The place is pretty freaky as abandoned towns go, although it was much worse in earlier times. Sad how a few people's mistakes led to decades of disaster, lives ruined, and a resource destroyed.
Tires burn extremely hot, nearly impossible to extinguish.
Tell me about it.
This Reminds me of the C&A railroad fire in 1987 in Bloomington IL. Also Known as the rail yard or 40 acres I know some people that have a book on it before it burnt down, Said to had been set on fire a couple times, I had a dream that night it was on fire and my mom said it was a bad dream, walked me to the window and put me back to sleep, when I woke back up I heard loud crackling and saw bright light and my mom sister's dad and sisters outside looking at it my mom came up screaming at me that night how did I know I told her I dreamed it I was born in 1983. When I saw the article article a couple years ago I told an old friend coroner in Bloomington and now I can't find the article at all but the article said it was said to have been set on fire a couple times I think 87 and 89?
The lumber company building sure looks like an old freight house design with the office at the far end, two parallel tracks at the RR dock side, and the opposite side probably for trucks. Larger freight houses would often have two tracks at the dock and cars on the outer track would be unloaded by putting plates between their doors and the inner track car doors. Could this building have originally been owned by a railroad?
Indeed it was, it's the old D&H freight depot and the two tracks are what's left of the old Lackawanna small yard that was here. This was a DL&W and D&H interchange yard. The tracks are not stub ended either, they go all the way through and make up the D&H Vine Street Branch that went north for about a mile to the D&H Green Ridge Yard, now occupied by the Delaware & Lackawanna Shortline. So in summary, the two tracks (the yard) were the meeting place for the Lackawanna Diamond Branch and the D&H Vine Street Branch.
AC you always have the most interesting videos. Stay safe and healthy. Happy Thanksgiving
Thanks David, I appreciate you watching.
That's a tough break for the workers there.
Yeah.
old building was a disaster waiting to happen, convenient for insurance scammers ;)
Wow excellent footage my friend 👏👏👏👏👏 Greetings
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video AC
Thanks!
I'm coming for that #1 hearts spot hans
And I'm coming for the CNO&TP.. I hope you're ready!! LOL
Did you ever finish the EHH and Lac Megantic books? Thoughts?
I did, thank you.. Planning to go through them again.
liked video
Big thanks
Oh Wow I remember that fire. So that must be why DL doesn’t go there anymore Interesting
I don't know for sure, but I believe that may be why 7D pulled out.. The D-L does still go there to a salt transload, but only occasionally.. Sometimes less than once a month!
@@Trains21 cool!