In 2005, Swedish politician and co-founder of famous feminist initiative, Gudrun Schyman, proposed what the media called a man tax which would have raised taxes for men in Sweden basing on the idea that all men should be held accountable for all men on women violence. (It should be noted that Schyman was convicted of tax evasion in 2004 for a year before making this proposal) In 2010, women's group leaders in Israel have unanimously opposed changes to rape laws that would make it possible for women to be convicted of rape they succeeded and now women in Israel who commit sex acts on not-consenting adults or children who are not old enough to legally give informed consent are not actually charged with rape and they're instead charge with lesser crimes In 2013, Indian Feminists successfully pressure the Indian government to write rape laws in such a way that only men could be charged with rape In 2014, Jessica Valenti published an article on The Guardian advocating paying men less than women. She didn't advocate paying men and women equally. She advocated paying men less than women In 2015, York University plan to hold an international Men's day to highlight issues affecting men and boys such as the high suicide rate total life expectancy and struggles faced in getting an education it was cancelled after feminists students, staff and alumni protested and held a petition to ban it which which received almost 200 signatures. To add insult to injury, Holly Baxter wrote a condescending article on Independent enlightening readers why we don't need International men's day
感謝Kongner出片介紹女性主義各種流派
20分鐘加埋字幕畫面背後工作量肯定好大
咁辛苦只為正視聼我非常敬佩
期待婦女新知未來更多作品
戰神, 真係好開心係呢度都能夠見到你
都是垃圾有什麼好戰的~"~
「都是在要求權利的同時拒絕責任」這個模板之下說著不一樣的鬼話
我發覺我無得代佢哋覆真係好慘,少咗好多嘢玩。
不過我會咁睇:大家可以唔同意,但千祈唔好用「藍絲語句結構」去發表你哋嘅意見,咁樣睇我哋嘅片就無乜意義。
所以,"我不同意你的說法 但我誓死捍衛你說話的權利"?
睇到有D留言 再諗返鬥黃既情況 都真係好有味道
@@jackykwan3241 大家可以討論下,最主要係我哋一向都鼓勵Open-Minded。
@Villain Tse 我只係唔想見到有朋友一踩入嚟就自己一堆諗法喺度自言自語,其實片入面嘅嘢有好多我哋之前啲片啊直播都講過😂
證明有新觀眾 好事嚟(X
我覺得條片嘅內容好正,睇完條片係好有得著;但我唔太認同「只係」唔同流派,始終主張唔同,做法唔同,如果話因為佢哋目的相同就直接將佢哋塞係同一個category,似乎會令我哋無視咗佢哋之間嘅差異,反而導致更多對女權嘅誤解。
如果主流關注既係呢啲資訊而唔係譁眾取寵既人,社會就唔會對女性主義咁多偏見
條片超過二十分鐘, 詳盡得來又淺白易明仲有 gag 位, 不負 kongner creator 之名喇
正,d分鏡貼圖好有藝術感,拍得住卓大師的design
整合得好好阿,用咗唔同顏色劃分成件事好清晰!17:19啲poster好精警😃
想知道你哋對而家有關於女性主義爭議嘅睇法,究竟爭議嘅原因係咪大眾都對所謂女權理解唔夠深入,有機會嘅話可唔可以喺嚟緊嘅集數講下?
btw你哋兩個把聲好好聽..
其實我發現女權探討男性嗰陣都冇掂到好多mra/某啲男人提出過嘅問題,例如男性自殺嘅成功率、監獄性別嘅差異,甚至係升讀較好嘅中學同埋升讀大學嘅性別比例上女性多過男性。但係問題就係,好多呢啲問題都會牽涉到女權主義唔鐘意探討嘅一個問題:有冇男女之間嘅差異會係天性上嘅分別呢?
又學多咗嘢~ 條片咁高質就緊係要一睇再睇啦🥳
visual graphic 正 好清晰表達 👍👍👍 柯仔分身 fully support, 自己作為女性,都唔係好了解女權主義,些些~
等咗咁耐,婦女新知終於出新片!
睇完再睇
太高汁了!特別係美術設計!想知係咪肝人一個人負責曬?係就真係辛苦曬Ringo,真係好有心
Happy Kongner啲片真係剪得越嚟越好,內容勁加唔使講啦🤗
以前覺得女性主義好悶, 但你地講得好有趣
好簡易入手睇下成日聽到既女性主義,原來分咁多種,完全長知識感覺😃
學識咗好多嘢多謝曬
感謝出新片
雖然得廿分鐘得都要睇幾次先明,因為真係好多派別
btw啲排板真係越整越靚
用本地嘅case studies或本地女性主義人物切入
去解釋女性主義有冇可能貼地d?
又想知女權主義會點睇Belle Delphine
Happy Kongner d片設計愈黎愈靚
簡單講一句
大家無論男女都可以係父權社會既受害者
雖然我唔係女權/女性主義者
不過都認同社會應該更加公平對每個人,每個人都應該有向上流動既機會
只要你有才能有貢獻都應該有相應回報
呢點我覺得係應該不分男女都適用
我建議你去第三世界落後地方由零去開始你既女性主義。第一世界千百年黎男人用幾多精神生命去建構今時今日文明既物質世界,你地女人不單無感恩,重要話男人壓迫你地女人,女人都可以享受千百年黎男人勞力既成果。咁同我話自己同李澤佳一樣有權分李嘉誠遺產係無分別。
@@MrHkl8324 唔好講到女性無份建構這個文明世界咁
@@MrHkl8324笑咗😂有無諗過大部份女性被束縛根本無資格去建構社會,但其實係咁嘅情況之下都有女性可以建構同參與文明嘅建立證明咗女仔嘅能力😅你知唔知其實Wifi係女人發明㗎😅
好好睇,學到好多嘢!期待快啲出新一條片!
睇完呢一集真係學到好多嘢,原來女權係有咁多唔同切入點,之前我對女權分子都幾反感以為佢哋係「這杯水想要強姦我」仲有雙重標準R著數,但了解完脈絡同各個流派嘅理念之後我開始理解佢哋
雙重標準叫偽女權,好多人唔承認佢地
響altia嗰度介紹過黎
超正啊!!
一定盡力幫你地推廣出去
Altia 琴晚係直播度都有出現
仲幫手講解
好睇👍🏾
well done, happy kongner最近D片靚咗
真係好正,學到好多野😍
好informative 睇到要jot notes😂期待下一集😍
地位同責任係成正比,E+女權 好似講自己應該點樣點樣 人地應該點樣點樣 好似無講過 自己應該有咩野責任 ,我認為有D野係自然地有先天的權重
唔係可以用一個"平權"/"平等" 可以FIX到個問題,反而 科技可以強化返 功能OR 能力上 本來先天比較弱的一邊
例如電腦可以將人的工作 唔係注重係勞力上 可以係智慧上/腦力上
但係生理 性功能 E D 基本的功能 係根本上無法改變 (如果可以完全地更改性別我都想啊)
所以我認為只性別平權 E 樣野 只可以做出相對上 對等 而唔係 平等.
因為本質你唔係果樣野 你點可以單單人工地加左D野改左D野 就當自己係果樣野 ,除左係本質上係完全的改變(完全地更改性別)
最後我個人認為 件事係會變成 指鹿為馬 咁樣 指著一野A特質的野 因為有D特質同B 相同/類同 就話 A=B 但係事實上 A 同 B 根本係有唔同的地方
講得好詳盡同清晰!支持👍👍👍👍
十分高質素的影片
感覺所有"類型"既平權運動既"卡關"位都係同一個問題...係流派思想差異上點樣做到溝通上既愈辯愈明係所有平權運動既致勝關鍵但亦同時對於人類天性黎講係一門好高深既學問...
睇完心事台先知剪片只係用左一日 超佩服!!! 希望之後有更多好片!
好高質,希望可以做多啲呢啲topic~
最近因為做關於gender-based social policy嘅project,引起咗對女性主義嘅興趣。原本以為要睇啲外國youtube channel先會有啲比較實在對女性主義嘅影片,但發覺係有香港人整嘅片,仲要精簡得黎又夠全面,係好好嘅一個入門,所以想畀個留言支持肯定你地!個人覺得socialist feminism嘅理念比起marxist同radical feminism,係更可以具體應用到落去制定社會政策,例如universal basic income, 針對婦女做家務嘅津貼,都係嘗試填補資本主義嘅缺失,肯定婦女做家務所帶來嘅經濟效益。
12:00 其實幾有意思,之前係內地論壇見過老師問好友能力的學生點解唔考埋博士,女學生都表示女仔無必要咁高學歷,可能香港男女相對平等無咁誇張,但真係會影響佢哋嘅追求(能力天花板)
最核心的觀後感果然是比起改變自己,「人」更希望能成功改造大環境。
另外,關於彈出彈外問題依舊相當棘手,完全不認為今時今日有人會守禮自報流派再討論。
題外,搞不好全球半導體產業鏈/芯片供應上升到「國家戰爭」一連串破事還比女權流派發展還簡單。
我都係俾父權社會影響
所以諗嘢講嘢都好父權
如果有啲近代啲嘅例子,再引述佢哋做咗啲咩,咁樣可以具體啲同容易啲理解。
19:35 下集就會更具體去講述女性專題,想更進一步聽多啲女性專題嘅內容,等下就有架喇
除左內容, D用相同排版都好有心思!!!!
其實大家係咪唔明有分歧但係可以一樣係追求緊同一樣既核心價值?唔同流派既目的都係希望追求女性平等ja,好難理解咩😂
II_T 但係佢哋對平權既理解係有唔同個喎🙈手段唔同都可以話係兄弟爬山,但係如果連五大訴求都唔同,佢哋真係去緊同一個目標行緊同一條路咩🤷♂️
@@maka1288 咁你有冇諗過大家其實訴求到今日都有唔同🧐?有人希望查警暴,有人希望雙真,有人希望回到返97前,有人希望建設民主中國,有人係希望改變制度有個合理營商環境。根係追求民主而5大係大部分人既目標,咁你係咪因為大家諗法唔同而覺得其他諗法既人唔係追求緊民主🧐?
@II_T 只小唔係追求緊同一個意思既民主囉,有人希望回到返97前,97前有民主咩?不如咁講啦,假設目標=香港好,咁建制同泛民都會話佢地係追求緊香港好架,但係佢地對香港點先會好同點算係好,有唔同既理解,你唔會覺得佢地係追求緊同一個目標,行緊同一條路加麻,佢地只係用緊同一個名目,追求緊不同既野。民建聯全名叫民主建港協進聯盟添啦,唔通佢又係追求民主咩,唔可以只係睇個名目就話佢地係同路人既
@@maka1288 咁請問你所指既追求同一個民主係咩?咁係咪唔同諗法就唔係追求緊同樣既野?個個人出身背景思考多多少少都有出入咁諗法唔同使用唔用方法其實好正常。我唔覺得大家一定要做一樣野一樣諗法先叫追求緊一樣既野,咁和理非同勇武係咪都應該分開唔好當同路人?我覺得大家唔洗對同路人個定義睇得咁窄。
@@cairis_tyan 和理非同勇武,只係手段尼,藍絲都有和理非同勇武,都有文宣組
唔夠喉, 如果遲下每個流派分別用一條片講解下就好
2022年重溫返依然覺得好高質
多謝🙏
未睇先like! 就咁睇頭幾個shots已經覺得靚。要返屋企慢慢lun呀😍😍😍
非常高質
3個月後再見!
好大聲笑咗出嚟
wow 長知識了,thx!! support
存在主義女性主義,我最鐘意
超正
你地做得好好👍🏻
大家幫手CLS
可唔可以upload podcast ❣️ 返工放工可以電,唔使成日望住個mon
真點高質!
建議happy kongner 放埋d 片or soundtrack 上podcast
Graphic靚咗好多 :-3
我對香港各位女性主義者定義自己係支持邊個流派比較有興趣
希望之後能出中文文字版本~謝謝🙏
清晰過我學校啲powerpoint🙏🙏🙏
一次過睇曬三段片, 大概有個女權小小concept ⋯正!thx
如果有d source/參考書藉就好:)
個個派別都好似好有道理咁🤯
Class
各自努力 💪🏻 不分化
好睇 學到野
覺得存在主義最合理
不懂粤语,字幕认真学习了
首先唔同嘅女權,正如你所講,對於目的有根本上嘅分歧。對所謂「平權」截然不同嘅理解,又點會認為大家都係為同一個平權,「大家都係手足」呢?
想像的共同體?
理解唔同所以行動方向唔同,但要達到目標,即係提升權利係一致
15:29 可唔可套用到現時的男女關係,但主角就已經變成係女性。簡單講大男人主義恰左人地咁多年,依家比人恰返轉頭。
既然如此,小弟寫下一個願望,希望1000年的人類能夠男女平等,或者同時已經沒有性別之分!性別問題可以解決,唔知同時比較問題解決未呢!
这个视频好棒,对我理解女权有很大帮助 但是我不会粤语 有的字幕是真看不懂 呜呜呜 要是有简体中文字幕就好了
除左睇得出分身同柯仔做左好多資料蒐集嚟分析唔同流派嘅女權,睇得出條片用左好多心機搞desgin同過場,肝肝應該用左好多肝🤤
real nice
流派介紹都幾詳盡,可惜呢D流派後面D發展唔少都不似預期
多左女仔係happy comber 😱
學到野, 令到人諗多D野, 視野無咁細
笑左笑埋右
下次會唔會講下馬克思主義、共產主義果啲?
呢度唔係講女性主義㗎咩
In 2005, Swedish politician and co-founder of famous feminist initiative, Gudrun Schyman, proposed what the media called a man tax which would have raised taxes for men in Sweden basing on the idea that all men should be held accountable for all men on women violence.
(It should be noted that Schyman was convicted of tax evasion in 2004 for a year before making this proposal)
In 2010, women's group leaders in Israel have unanimously opposed changes to rape laws that would make it possible for women to be convicted of rape they succeeded and now women in Israel who commit sex acts on not-consenting adults or children who are not old enough to legally give informed consent are not actually charged with rape and they're instead charge with lesser crimes
In 2013, Indian Feminists successfully pressure the Indian government to write rape laws in such a way that only men could be charged with rape
In 2014, Jessica Valenti published an article on The Guardian advocating paying men less than women. She didn't advocate paying men and women equally. She advocated paying men less than women
In 2015, York University plan to hold an international Men's day to highlight issues affecting men and boys such as the high suicide rate total life expectancy and struggles faced in getting an education it was cancelled after feminists students, staff and alumni protested and held a petition to ban it which which received almost 200 signatures.
To add insult to injury, Holly Baxter wrote a condescending article on Independent enlightening readers why we don't need International men's day
I don't really like the idea of feminism , however this show is surprisingly good, very informative, unbiased and entertaining
其實女性主義者會唔會鄙視利用父權賺取利益嘅女人?
我覺得呢個問題上 應該又要分返唔同流派去答 我地耐心等柯仔同分身下一集婦女新知啦~
女權自助餐那種的話,所有流派都會,其他的話不同流派意見不一樣
簡單講,自由派同社會主義女性主義都會反對
現在還有微博打拳派
当听课哈哈哈哈
good
support
屌。分零鐘嗰陣以為左下角係卡繆嚟LOL。仲諗緊原來卡繆撈埋女性主義咁勁。
唔係卡繆但係係佢嘅情敵(誤
可惜世間大部份嘅都係Opportunist Feminism。。。
慘啦,又要等三個月
喺香港討論女性主義係好特別,喺日本韓國嘅父權社會搞性別平權大家係好易理解,但香港好明顯有母權社會/女尊男卑嘅傾向,所以好難將國際通用嘅各個流派加入香港context討論。
我誠邀你今晚睇kongner直播 我估米迦會喺今晚直播講解吓 解答吓人問題
世界從來無存在過「父權社會」只有「女性中心社會」,男人返工搵十蚊,自己用六蚊,分四蚊比個無做野既女人用。咁唔係父權,咁係「女人享受」社會。
@@circus1201 我Phone in現場辯論就有用。
@@MrHkl8324 講真 我可以幫你問吓 係唔係要phone in?
@@MrHkl8324 你指的是男人在外掙錢那種?女人上要照顧老爺奶奶,中要打理家頭細務,下要照顧小朋友(通常),這你都說女人沒做事?這明明是一個人做三個人的事,你以為這麼簡單?
俾我感覺 到現今世界 各流派嘅主張都有啲 out。
人人應該平等。
好多時部份人 搞唔清 男女有別 同 男女平等。
真係好慢呀〜
聽完真係想講弗洛伊德條友真係鳩up無極限😂
dont judge a book by its cover
你又9up返一個劃時代既理論出來囉
你明明對相關既野冇認識可言,只不過聽人講左兩句,冇真係了解過實際成套理論係講乜,當中脈絡係點,就話佢係9up,你就唔方唔9up啦
男性對女性黎講都係他者姐..
所有野都係相對
我反而覺得好多時最物化女性嘅係女性自己囉
正如無論角色位置點樣轉換
女性都會覺得自己係受壓嘅一方
玩下交友APP就知咩叫男女不平等
就算係做簡介,創作者背後對每個主張都要有相當了解先準確概括到,可想而知背後資料搜集下幾大功夫。
辛苦兩位。感謝兩位。
點睇現代好多所謂女權雙重標準
個啲唔叫真正嘅女權, 佢哋只係用個名獲取privilege.
(From 女權主義者)
點解弗洛伊德講埋晒呢啲咁冇邏輯嘅嘢都可以咁出名?真心覺得佢係一條痴線佬
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13:46
我係男人 要做啲先幫到解放女性
反抗父權
@@UoyOtYadhtribYppah 即係點樣呀
個目標既定義都唔同甚至有衝突,咁都算係同路人?