Hello Everyone!! What do you think about that weird family album photo from the Sims 2 Landgraab Household?? What's going on there?? I hope you guys enjoy the video!! ❤
It would make sense to be Nina as she came in the base game so would therefore exist for everyone who had Malcolm. It probably is just a mistake made by the developers but there could be another reason. It’s known that Nina and Dina are part alien so maybe it’s possible that they got the aliens to wipe any memory of Nina from Malcolm . That could explain why he is still single and has yet to continue the Malcolm generation unlike every other Malcolm family in the franchises. Probably not true but it’s an idea . Love you videos xx
In sims busting out I remember being able to live with Dudley regardless of gender. Mimi also asks you to go over there and show him “sign language” or flip him off.
@@ClockworkCouture. That's what I did with Ditzy Ritzy the hippy artist, now she's living the highlife in the Landgraab mansion and will never have to work again (Sims 3) being besties with Holly Alto.🤣🤣
@@thatmilk3655 They couldn't even tie Zest into the Landgraab family tree as estranged and disliked. That's why the gallery has a classic replacement of them with Mom, Mimi, and Dudley.
@@JaysMissingKidney I use the mcc cheats to make Johnny into their child. Then I set his relationship to really bad with Nancy, neutral with Geoffrey and then a little positive with malcom. And create my own little plot with more depth as to what made them kick him out etc. I change up basically everything EA did because yes, their storytelling sucks. I just expand on them and make it somewhat interesting.
A more polar opposite version would be the Altos, now they're (mostly) EVIL. The Goths are too humble and reclusive in comparison. Landgraabs are more chaotic neutral than anything.
@@JaysMissingKidney I loved the altos. Wild fun. :-) When you start them up, they are like 6 pissed off adults and 2 kids and everyone just wants to "witness death" of someone.
Is that alternative timeline stuff, just a lazy way to get out of dealing with the previous lore? I would have liked it better if they stuck to the old Canon.
Brushing aside tangled canon is the primary reason for most reboots. Honestly, I think they just wanted to be able to reuse the core characters in the Goth and Landgraab families.
they were lazy with sims 4 in general...... I cant believe it! I only played the 1st sims game when I was a kid, my older cousin had it on his PC. Then I played sims 4 after I grew up. But lookin at these videos about sims 2 and 3, sims 4 could never at anything. Heck I was disappointed at University pack....... (I dont have much hopes on snowy escape pack that's coming after star wars pack)
@@SasukeUchiha723 Sims 2 was the best game. Super rich storyline that’s still interesting/mysterious 16 years after release, good graphics (TS2 sims had the best look, imo), lots of content, great expansion packs, ran pretty well. TS3 was equally good. I loved the open world and how freeing it was. It really built upon the previous games. It had good storytelling, great graphics, loads of detail. I never got any exp packs but the base game was so packed that I never felt like I needed any. It did lag badly, but only as a result of the fact that it did so much. TS4? Utter shit. Yes, the graphics are cool and if you’re into house design then it is better than previous games. And it runs very smoothly. But only because there’s nothing in it! They sold an incomplete game. With the base game alone, you’d get bored with it after a couple days, and even with exp packs it’s nowhere near as good as the previous base games on their own. The storytelling is rehashed to nonexistent, sims interactions are bugged, the moodlet feature doesn’t work (a sim can be grieving over their relative who just died but if you get them to pet a cat, the happiness moodlet overrides the grief - it makes no sense). Basic mechanics like a group convo or talking to a sim while sitting or holding a baby don’t work (ts2 did them fine). The whole game feels soulless. The sims don’t have personalities. They’ve wiped out the spontaneity or quirkiness we loved in the other games. They’ve also made it a lot more kid-friendly, so it feels dumbed down and sanitised. With all the half-assed expansion packs it feels like an unapologetic cash grab. EA have undone all the great work Maxis did originally. It’s a steaming pile of shit and as I’m sure you can tell by the length of this comment I am still pissed.
Let's not forget about Johnny Zest! He's a former Landgrabb in the sims 4 who was disowned for dropping out of school to become a comedian. He lives in a trailer in Oasis Springs.
He's too insignificant in the grand scheme of things (= the long line of prominent Landgraab family members), so I would have almost completely forgotten about him, if you hadn't brought him up. Also, why didn't EA even bother making him actually a part of the family? It just makes no sense, it's just sheer laziness and sloppy "storytelling" on their part.
@@anastasiap6253 Here with many things they are upset when they translate but everyone loved the national surnames of the sims. The Goths for example called it Caixão what means Coffin
Fun Fact: In medival england, there was no standardised spelling. So it's entirely possible that that is just how the medieval Landgraab's spelt their name
Theory, the landgrabs used *Motherlode* to get wealthy Most of my memories from Landgrabs were from sims 2 and i hated every event with them in it. Get fired because a landgrab doesn't like me for some reason or get scammed by Mimi, who could have easily paid for those burgers knowing her position. My sims got mouths to feed... Ive never played sims 3 or 4 pre-makes, let alone the landgrabs so with them i dont have many memories.
@@TheSimsLore i finally decided to stop being lazy and fix Sims 2 so it only "occasionally" crashes now. I've always wanted to make a Sims 2 video but I can't come up with any good ideas. I thought of social experiments with sims but ive seen a lot of that going around lately but its mostly been on sims 4.
In the sims 4 they do nothing. Like they would just know my door for no reason and wait for like 4 hours of game then leave like nothing hapend. Sims 4 live is suck. Sims 3 better
@@Vickpiure Sims 5 should be more like Sims 3 gameplay tbh, even tho I love Sims 4, Sims 3 gameplay would make sense in a day in age where half of the games are open world and with SSDs it can be done very well, if Sims 3 had the graphical style of Sims 4 I would be all over it
During my last Sims 3 gameplay everyone died in the Landgraab household, except for Geoffry. I remarried him, but as soon as I switched active households, the wife was dead. I don't trust the Landgraabs. They give me Lannister vibes.
Actually if you look at it this way Landgraabs are the Sims eqvivalent of Lannisters, Goths then are the Targaryens, and Altos are Baratheons. Goths are the most popular, powerful family, with the greatest legacy. Altos are chaotic evils with internal struggles (Holly is not evil unlike her parents). And these two families mirror eachother like polar opposites. And the Landgraabs profit no matter what. They have the money, and they would probably support the ,,winning side".
Admiral Landgraab seems to be a lot of references to British colonialism. The part about his "undoing at the hand of island natives" is most likely a reference to Captain James Cook, famed British explorer, most notable for mapping the east coast of Australia. He was killed by some native Hawaiians in 1779.
I made a rich and mighty family myself. They are called Van Reichpeitsche. Their homestead is a huge castle in my neighborhood (which is built on the map from belladonna cove. All of their kids live in huge mansions next to the castle (of course on the hill). They are all super rich and super evil. They own holiday homes in all holiday destinations and also in the holiday destinations i made. They own also several resorts everywhere, other houses and mansions, nightclubs, bars, shops and other community lots (for example the Van Reichpeitsche Country club). They have a huge and creepy family graveyard, and a lot of their relatives spook around the old family castle. Its dark and creepy and super luxurious. They own my neighborhood, they even own me because i'm so addicted to the game it's incredible gameplay because of playing with them ;) aahhhh i love sims 2. You can be so creative there
There is also a dead Malcolm Landgraab buried in the town cemetery in Roaring Heights (The Sims 3), although according to sims wiki it is not the same as Malcolm in Sunset Valley
The Landgraabs are in Sims 3 for the DS too. Malcolm Landgraab and his wife Bambi Landgraab. Their household bio says "Malcolm's family founded town, so it was no surprise that when Bambi was looking for some Gold to dig she looked to him. Is this true love or true greed?" Malcolm's traits are ~Hot-Headed ~Witty ~Hopeless Romantic ~Outgoing His Lifetime Wish is: Renaissance Sim He workes as a Gene Therapist in the Medical career He has 2 skill points at Painting, 5 skill points at Logic and 2 skill points at Cooking Bambi's traits are ~Inappropariate ~Evil ~Ambitious ~Commitment Issues Her Lifetime Wish is: Gold Digger She works as a Vice President in the Business Career She has in Athletics 4 skill points and 2 skill points in Handiness. She is good friends with Don Alto but her husband and Don hate eachother.
I love the fact that in the Sims 2, they chose Malcolm to be the IV of his name ( playing on the sound Malcolm Landgraab the Force a.k.a. the Force to be reckoned with?) Also I'm not sure what exactly is said in his family/Sim bio, but in Russian version of the game it is mentioned something about "whether he could restore the mistakes of his parents". Now, his parents died young in the fire, leaving young Malcolm in the care of his grandfather, Malcolm Landgraab II. In Bluewater Village there is a community lot called Bluewater Village Real Estate Office, and the description says that it (along with all the land) WAS managed by the Landgraab dynasty and is now up for grabs. NOW WHAT IF Malcolm's parents were careless and lost the lion's share of the family fortune, causing Malcolm Landgraab II to kill his own son and daughter in law in a fire in order to raise Malcolm Landgraab IV the "proper way" so that he could restore the family fortune and grab all the land in Bluewater Village?
I’ve always believed that Queenie’s Death, Nancy’s Mother, is a mystery. I believe that the Altos are responsible for it. Bert Alto, Nick’s Brother, in his bio says he may be hiding from his brother. Maybe Nick framed him of killing Queenie. I also believe the two brothers used to like Vita, who’s clearly jealous of Nancy, but Nick ruined it as clearly Vita and Bert have similar traits (Schmoozer and Snob) . So due to their mutual hatred of the Landgraabs, Nick planned to cause a fire so that he can show Vita how despicable he is like her, but things got out of hand. In conclusion, I’m a bit delusional when it comes to sims 3 family backgrounds.
Actually, Lola Lancaster from Lucky Palms had an affair with both Nick and Bert at some point in her life (her daughter Lina looks exactly like them). I think they found out that she was cheating on them with eachother and then they became enemies.
Great video with so many new info. It's shame that TS4 isn't in same time line like rest of the franchise. But maybe it's better cause the quality of previous games can't be compared.
Actually, there's a post on tumblr where they solve Bella Goth's dissapearence (it's just a theory of the blog's op ofc, but it makes a lot of sense), and there's mention of how the Sims 4 is an alternate timeline that's also connected to the other games' timeline.
@@blueghost4769 I will check it but TS4 has many differences in "story" compared to franchise. TS3 has Simbots (oldest), TS2 has Servobots (modern version) and TS3 Into the Future has Plumbots (high tech). And there are more of this tiny details that make the franchise come together piece by piece. I love that about TS2 & TS3. Sadly TS4 lacks personality for me.
@@ProtectusCZ i just started playing TS4 again because my TS3 is way too laggy. I love 4, but 3 will always be my favorite, like you said, it had more personality. 3 also has a special place in my heart because it introduced me to the whole franchise.
Whenever I think of sims families the Landgrabbs and the Goths always come to mind for me haha, but I suppose that’s because they have pretty much appeared in all sims games. With the Sims 2 I found it frustrating with Malcolm’s last name having IV in it because whenever you would make him marry someone then they would also have the IV part in the last name and it don’t make sense for them to have it. Luckily you can change it with this program called Sims PE, but back then I didn’t know about Sims PE so the woman was always stuck with the IV part which was annoying to me haha. I always use to make him marry Nina all the time because of the picture with him and her in the hot tub so it made sense to me. But sometimes I would make Dina fall in love with him despite him being married to her sister haha we need some drama once in awhile 🤣
When I get the chance to reply TS2, I’m going to marry Dina to Malcom after Morty dies, and Nina can be his mistress. I always get Dina pregnant by Morty, because she would do so for more money when he dies. I might get her to have a child by Malcom, but the last time I did that, Malcolm’s kids were very unfortunate looking lol. Maybe I’ll include that in the story line, that Malcolm’s kid is jealous of Morty’s because they got the good genes 😂
Pretty sure the landgrabbs and the landgraabs are just one clan but one of them misspelled his last name without knowing and still continued to use it even when he made a family. That's what happened to our clan. 😂
It's crazy how the Agreste family in Miraculous Ladybug is so similar to the TS3 console version Malcolm Landgraab's family... even Adrien as the son with the blonde hair and green eyes is same in both worlds👀
If you footer around with the sliders in the sims 3 you can make great looking sims. In fact, my most beautiful sims are from the sims 3. But it took lots of practice. The creators didn't put too much effort into creating pretty pre made sims. But the sims 3 can make the best looking sims.
The Landgraab's seems to be like evil elite in the sims, too many money, secret society, many many businesses of their own, politics, they've been wealthy for centuries
I don't think you knew but Johnny Zest is part of the landgrabb family. On the family tree it doesn't show but if you read Johnny's house bio it tells you
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I don't think that was Nina Caliente on Malcom IV's album because that woman has lighter skin, but if it was, it wouldn't be possible for Nina to appear in his relationship panel because Bluewater Village must be manually added to your Neighborhood
In TS4, im currently playing on the 6th (?) generation and i've been playing this family for 3 years. I just figured out that my first sim ever had an affair with the landgrabs and that shocked me.
A few interesting notes: (not comfirmed) - It is said that Admiral Landgraab founded the sims 2 family line and is the son of Kermit. -Malcolm IV parents died young. -Admiral Landgraab grew paranoid and scared and put traps around his house. -Holly Alto is mom. -Sims 3 Malcom could be Malcolm from sims Busting out -Malcolm IV married Bambi from the Ds and then Hannelore from xbox who had Adrien. (Sorry if you mentioned this already :/) Edit: Some possible more theories: Dacian and Misty had admiral Landgraab who had Gregory and Kermit and Kermit founded the sims 3 line and Gregory founded the sims 2 line.
Its more likely that Kermit is the son of Admiral Landgraab, not the other way around. Holly Alto isn't mom, she's a good sim, while mom is evil. Malcolm, son of Nancy, isn't Malcolm IV and this last one never married Hannelore.
I figured that Admiral Landgraab is the grandfather or great grandfather of Kermit and Malcolm Landgraab of Roaring Heights, whom started the Sims 2 family line. Since the Sims 2 mentions Gregory Landgraab was the one whom became rich.
When I played Bustin’ Out idk why but Mimi never sweared at me, we had the coolest 2 girl party roommate vibe. And then when it came to Dudley I always made my sims date him 😂
I think its something to note that Johnny Zest was sent to a trailer, and Dudley owns a trailer. Also, his parents were grooming Malcom to join their career, and Johnny zest was discharged for wanting to become a comedian and leaving school. Could they be linked somehow?
In Sim City 3000 I think he (Malcom) is also the one that rewards the defense contractor. To be fair most of the buildings he lobbies for have a positive effect, save the toxic waste disposal plant. I guess you can say the casino is mixed, but it increases the residential cap which more than makes up for the minor crime increase, and the 350$ (or 300$, been awhile since I played) monthly is a nice bonus. The rest of them are all positive things though, especially the theme park which increases the residential cap by some crazy amount, like 200k or something like that. Out of all the lobbyists in Sim City 3k he is probably the sleeziest besides Vinnie.
Omg I'm so happy you brought up moonlight bay. Whenever anyone does a landgraab family, they never mention the console version (ps3 and xbox360 version). IDK if you mind but is there anyway you can do a video on the clique household.
This is very intresting. I really like the Landgraab family and I first made acquintaince with them in The Sims for the Gamecube. This video was so informative and long, love it!
In my Sims 3 console playthrough, the family I created had sn elder Sim whom I gave the story of being Malcolm's brother. Malcolm stole his fortune, so the elder Sim had to move into a house with his two sons, their wives and his grandkids. It was fun until the file got corrupted and everything was erased! 😭
Oh my gosh i didnt know that in bustin out malcolm was your sims step dad at one point. Thats weird because i tried to make my sim get together with dudley 😬
Good research! I don't necessarily buy the canonical timeline thing, but if it does exist, you've sorted this family well. There are mentions of the Landgraab name in "S2: Castaway" for the console. That game has a special place in my heart, because my entry into The Sims came with the disappointing Wii version of Sims 3. I found Castaway in the pre-owned section of Game Stop and fell in love! That led me to S2 for PC then Sims Medieval and that back to the satisfying S3 for PC! By my reckoning, according to the canonical timeline, Malcolm in S3 Sunset Valley would be "Malcolm II" as he would have to be the grandfather of Malcolm IV. As we known from the Royals, "II" doesn't always equate to "Jr." So maybe Geoffrey's brother or favorite uncle was Malcolm I. Getting back to the Castaway refs: Have we ever seen a Moneywell? And, if not, why not? Maybe they're antecedents of the Altos... Looking forward to more from Bluewater Village!
Haha ah I was wondering if the old console games would be mentioned, because my first time encountering Malcolm was through the Sims Bustin' Out, and his two kids that you can live with in it. Very nostalgic for me, I still associate him with that white suit.
Woah, I noticed you used photos from the LPArchive Let's Play of SC3000 for the Malcolm segment. What did you think of it? It's one of my favorite LP's.
22:30 This Gregory Landgraab is mentioned in one of the chance card for the Painter career in the Sims 4, said he is from the future~ so… uhmm~ 28:04 In my story, Malcolm became a National Leader with his newly found political party , and also live with his co worker wife Hannelore Landgraab at San Myshuno
26:05 The ginger/red hair and style is the first thing that makes you think "Nina" but this girl's skin is way too pale and Nina is tan. Edit: However I wonder if the red haired girl in Sims 2, whomever she may be, is part of the red head Landgrabs in the Sims 3 timeline even so there seems to be some sort of detail that I can't put my finger on but the only thing I noticed and that consists is Langrabs are blondes and red heads, preset that is.
Hi. You missed Johnny Zest who is a Landgraab who has been disowned and changed his name. Also I think it's worth noting that the sims 4 version of the console/busting out family on the gallery, are the family of malcom from the sims 4 base game, as the elder in that family is just an aged up version of Malcom. I'm not sure if this is a hint that Sims 4 is a prequel to console/busting out.
I always feel like the Dina photo in Malcom’s memory was meant to be a hint from developers as to how they wanted Malcolm’s story to progress - that he was the next millionaire in the Calente sisters’ sights. I get how you couldn’t have them know each other in the base game as while every Neighbourhood could have a Bluewater Village, the sisters were only in Pleasantview. However a patch to given them memories and a relationship would have been nice, if such a thing was possible
I love this video and all these - however you did use the wrong malcolms mansion when talking about the first game for console. You used the bustin out one as opposed to the first one
In Sims 4 when left to their own devices Nancy and Geoffrey always have 2 more kids and they are always either boys or girls, never a mix. I enjoy messing with this family so my sim or their kids always work their way over to the family somehow.
Hello Everyone!! What do you think about that weird family album photo from the Sims 2 Landgraab Household?? What's going on there?? I hope you guys enjoy the video!! ❤
I think the redhead is one of the townies who came with Apartment Life.
Oooh very interesting, care to share which one? Have you come across her before?
Oh I'm so happy to see my favorite family finally in one of your videos!!!
It would make sense to be Nina as she came in the base game so would therefore exist for everyone who had Malcolm. It probably is just a mistake made by the developers but there could be another reason. It’s known that Nina and Dina are part alien so maybe it’s possible that they got the aliens to wipe any memory of Nina from Malcolm . That could explain why he is still single and has yet to continue the Malcolm generation unlike every other Malcolm family in the franchises. Probably not true but it’s an idea . Love you videos xx
In sims busting out I remember being able to live with Dudley regardless of gender. Mimi also asks you to go over there and show him “sign language” or flip him off.
Me using motherlode: *I'm about to end this man's whole career*
Me with Family Funds and Money : hehehe 🤪
Haters will say you cheated. Lol
@@serenity2010sh I mean, I would proudly say I cheat lol
Me marrying into the Landgraab family as a born Goth, then killing all of them:
@@ClockworkCouture. That's what I did with Ditzy Ritzy the hippy artist, now she's living the highlife in the Landgraab mansion and will never have to work again (Sims 3) being besties with Holly Alto.🤣🤣
You missed Johnny Zest - unless he doesn't count, since he was disowned and the game doesn't register him as a relative.
I always delete him and the Landgraab family in TS4 because EA sucks at story telling and putting things together.
Lord Styrofoam No, you suck at storytelling and putting things together. If you actually cared you’d play as them instead of deleting them.
@@thatmilk3655 what lmao
@@thatmilk3655 They couldn't even tie Zest into the Landgraab family tree as estranged and disliked. That's why the gallery has a classic replacement of them with Mom, Mimi, and Dudley.
@@JaysMissingKidney I use the mcc cheats to make Johnny into their child. Then I set his relationship to really bad with Nancy, neutral with Geoffrey and then a little positive with malcom. And create my own little plot with more depth as to what made them kick him out etc.
I change up basically everything EA did because yes, their storytelling sucks. I just expand on them and make it somewhat interesting.
They’re like an evil version of the Goth family and I love it!
A more polar opposite version would be the Altos, now they're (mostly) EVIL. The Goths are too humble and reclusive in comparison. Landgraabs are more chaotic neutral than anything.
@@JaysMissingKidney
I loved the altos.
Wild fun. :-)
When you start them up, they are like 6 pissed off adults and 2 kids and everyone just wants to "witness death" of someone.
@@JaysMissingKidney The Altos are the opposite of the Landgraabs, the Goth is something on their own.
@@AlexS-oj8qf That's literally what I said.
@@JaysMissingKidney And here I am supporting your assesment 🥺
Is that alternative timeline stuff, just a lazy way to get out of dealing with the previous lore?
I would have liked it better if they stuck to the old Canon.
Most likely
Brushing aside tangled canon is the primary reason for most reboots. Honestly, I think they just wanted to be able to reuse the core characters in the Goth and Landgraab families.
I would like to believe this “alternate timeline” is just an aged-up Sims3 world
they were lazy with sims 4 in general...... I cant believe it! I only played the 1st sims game when I was a kid, my older cousin had it on his PC. Then I played sims 4 after I grew up. But lookin at these videos about sims 2 and 3, sims 4 could never at anything. Heck I was disappointed at University pack....... (I dont have much hopes on snowy escape pack that's coming after star wars pack)
@@SasukeUchiha723 Sims 2 was the best game. Super rich storyline that’s still interesting/mysterious 16 years after release, good graphics (TS2 sims had the best look, imo), lots of content, great expansion packs, ran pretty well. TS3 was equally good. I loved the open world and how freeing it was. It really built upon the previous games. It had good storytelling, great graphics, loads of detail. I never got any exp packs but the base game was so packed that I never felt like I needed any. It did lag badly, but only as a result of the fact that it did so much.
TS4? Utter shit. Yes, the graphics are cool and if you’re into house design then it is better than previous games. And it runs very smoothly. But only because there’s nothing in it! They sold an incomplete game. With the base game alone, you’d get bored with it after a couple days, and even with exp packs it’s nowhere near as good as the previous base games on their own. The storytelling is rehashed to nonexistent, sims interactions are bugged, the moodlet feature doesn’t work (a sim can be grieving over their relative who just died but if you get them to pet a cat, the happiness moodlet overrides the grief - it makes no sense). Basic mechanics like a group convo or talking to a sim while sitting or holding a baby don’t work (ts2 did them fine). The whole game feels soulless. The sims don’t have personalities. They’ve wiped out the spontaneity or quirkiness we loved in the other games. They’ve also made it a lot more kid-friendly, so it feels dumbed down and sanitised. With all the half-assed expansion packs it feels like an unapologetic cash grab. EA have undone all the great work Maxis did originally. It’s a steaming pile of shit and as I’m sure you can tell by the length of this comment I am still pissed.
Let's not forget about Johnny Zest! He's a former Landgrabb in the sims 4 who was disowned for dropping out of school to become a comedian. He lives in a trailer in Oasis Springs.
And we love him, he’s great
Poor Johnny Zest :-(
He's too insignificant in the grand scheme of things (= the long line of prominent Landgraab family members), so I would have almost completely forgotten about him, if you hadn't brought him up. Also, why didn't EA even bother making him actually a part of the family? It just makes no sense, it's just sheer laziness and sloppy "storytelling" on their part.
I have to agree on that one actually, that's the reason why I didn't really include them even though I'm a sucker for bios and storytelling 😅
Wait... MY SIM MARRIED THAT GUY-
In Brazillian Version the familly is called Quero-tudo-que-é-Seu what means: I-want- everything-that-is-yours.
Hahaha wow that's a really long family name 😂
@@TheSimsLore Yeah, is hilarius hehe, but in sims 4 they also is called landgraab, is a pity
Russian game versions don’t translate the surname lol
It’s lost in translation
@@anastasiap6253 Here with many things they are upset when they translate but everyone loved the national surnames of the sims. The Goths for example called it Caixão what means Coffin
@@lazosims7908 So the surnames are translated but other things aren’t? Also hi from Russia.
Fun Fact: In medival england, there was no standardised spelling. So it's entirely possible that that is just how the medieval Landgraab's spelt their name
Well dang, now I know where Miraculous Ladybug took the idea for the Agrestes. They aren't slick.
@OmgIm JustNothing They really are. I stopped watching ML with season 2 and I keep finding where they stole their ideas from. Its wild.
Jessica sameeee
@@still_your_zelda ideas cant be stolen omg
@@still_your_zelda Wait what there's more??
Wait what happened to miraculous ladybug
Theory, the landgrabs used *Motherlode* to get wealthy
Most of my memories from Landgrabs were from sims 2 and i hated every event with them in it. Get fired because a landgrab doesn't like me for some reason or get scammed by Mimi, who could have easily paid for those burgers knowing her position. My sims got mouths to feed...
Ive never played sims 3 or 4 pre-makes, let alone the landgrabs so with them i dont have many memories.
They scammed and hurt so many sims they didn't even need to use motherlode 😂
@@TheSimsLore i finally decided to stop being lazy and fix Sims 2 so it only "occasionally" crashes now. I've always wanted to make a Sims 2 video but I can't come up with any good ideas. I thought of social experiments with sims but ive seen a lot of that going around lately but its mostly been on sims 4.
What do you expect from the LandGRABBS
In the sims 4 they do nothing. Like they would just know my door for no reason and wait for like 4 hours of game then leave like nothing hapend. Sims 4 live is suck. Sims 3 better
One of my biggest takeaways from trying to understand The Sims lore is that the Landgraabs really like the name Malcolm
A whole 30 mins of sims lore!! You’re spoiling us!! Yes!!
This video made me want to be a sims developer and put these families in the sims 5
em forde i really wish that in the sims 5 the story line will be a lot better defined and the gameplay better
@@Vickpiure the eye of evil technocracy corruption consumerism
Nichsa 89 who?
@@Vickpiure Sims 5 should be more like Sims 3 gameplay tbh, even tho I love Sims 4, Sims 3 gameplay would make sense in a day in age where half of the games are open world and with SSDs it can be done very well, if Sims 3 had the graphical style of Sims 4 I would be all over it
During my last Sims 3 gameplay everyone died in the Landgraab household, except for Geoffry. I remarried him, but as soon as I switched active households, the wife was dead. I don't trust the Landgraabs. They give me Lannister vibes.
Actually if you look at it this way Landgraabs are the Sims eqvivalent of Lannisters, Goths then are the Targaryens, and Altos are Baratheons.
Goths are the most popular, powerful family, with the greatest legacy. Altos are chaotic evils with internal struggles (Holly is not evil unlike her parents). And these two families mirror eachother like polar opposites. And the Landgraabs profit no matter what. They have the money, and they would probably support the ,,winning side".
Just Me who are the Starks?
@@Freyaoa Good question! Basically any honorable, rich family would fit the role, but in Sunset Valley my best guess are the Bachelors.
The Game of Sims
I trust the Altos more than them
Admiral Landgraab seems to be a lot of references to British colonialism. The part about his "undoing at the hand of island natives" is most likely a reference to Captain James Cook, famed British explorer, most notable for mapping the east coast of Australia. He was killed by some native Hawaiians in 1779.
They're inspired by The Rothschilds
I made a rich and mighty family myself. They are called Van Reichpeitsche. Their homestead is a huge castle in my neighborhood (which is built on the map from belladonna cove. All of their kids live in huge mansions next to the castle (of course on the hill). They are all super rich and super evil. They own holiday homes in all holiday destinations and also in the holiday destinations i made. They own also several resorts everywhere, other houses and mansions, nightclubs, bars, shops and other community lots (for example the Van Reichpeitsche Country club). They have a huge and creepy family graveyard, and a lot of their relatives spook around the old family castle. Its dark and creepy and super luxurious. They own my neighborhood, they even own me because i'm so addicted to the game it's incredible gameplay because of playing with them ;)
aahhhh i love sims 2.
You can be so creative there
Nancy really said: I hate poor people, they disgust me.
I hate that the sims 4 just lays as "alternate timeline" universe...... smh
Yes...Sims 4 is wrong in almost every aspect
It's a reboot, a one that should've been handled better
Why not? Don't take it so seriously lol, the Sims itself isn't a serious game series wtf.
@@TheSultan1470 the sims 4 has lore in it as well and a youtuber made a video on brindleton bay which is by far my fav
@@SasukeUchiha723 Mein name ist Sazuke Ushia
There is also a dead Malcolm Landgraab buried in the town cemetery in Roaring Heights (The Sims 3), although according to sims wiki it is not the same as Malcolm in Sunset Valley
maybe its the one who has a wife named bambi?
maybe its the malcom landgraab from simcity 3000
Or Malcolm Landgraab the 2nd grandfather
The Landgraabs are in Sims 3 for the DS too. Malcolm Landgraab and his wife Bambi Landgraab. Their household bio says "Malcolm's family founded town, so it was no surprise that when Bambi was looking for some Gold to dig she looked to him. Is this true love or true greed?" Malcolm's traits are
~Hot-Headed
~Witty
~Hopeless Romantic
~Outgoing
His Lifetime Wish is: Renaissance Sim
He workes as a Gene Therapist in the Medical career
He has 2 skill points at Painting,
5 skill points at Logic and 2 skill points at Cooking
Bambi's traits are
~Inappropariate
~Evil
~Ambitious
~Commitment Issues
Her Lifetime Wish is: Gold Digger
She works as a Vice President in the Business Career
She has in Athletics 4 skill points and 2 skill points in Handiness. She is good friends with Don Alto but her husband and Don hate eachother.
I love the fact that in the Sims 2, they chose Malcolm to be the IV of his name ( playing on the sound Malcolm Landgraab the Force a.k.a. the Force to be reckoned with?)
Also I'm not sure what exactly is said in his family/Sim bio, but in Russian version of the game it is mentioned something about "whether he could restore the mistakes of his parents". Now, his parents died young in the fire, leaving young Malcolm in the care of his grandfather, Malcolm Landgraab II. In Bluewater Village there is a community lot called Bluewater Village Real Estate Office, and the description says that it (along with all the land) WAS managed by the Landgraab dynasty and is now up for grabs. NOW WHAT IF Malcolm's parents were careless and lost the lion's share of the family fortune, causing Malcolm Landgraab II to kill his own son and daughter in law in a fire in order to raise Malcolm Landgraab IV the "proper way" so that he could restore the family fortune and grab all the land in Bluewater Village?
I liked the 'IV' too .....but his kids all have it as a surname ....which sucks. I've mods now to take that away but still lol.
@@jamiemohan2049 yeah, with mods it doesn't bother me but at first I was flabbergasted when his wife also was the IV.
I’ve always believed that Queenie’s Death, Nancy’s Mother, is a mystery. I believe that the Altos are responsible for it. Bert Alto, Nick’s Brother, in his bio says he may be hiding from his brother. Maybe Nick framed him of killing Queenie. I also believe the two brothers used to like Vita, who’s clearly jealous of Nancy, but Nick ruined it as clearly Vita and Bert have similar traits (Schmoozer and Snob) . So due to their mutual hatred of the Landgraabs, Nick planned to cause a fire so that he can show Vita how despicable he is like her, but things got out of hand. In conclusion, I’m a bit delusional when it comes to sims 3 family backgrounds.
Actually, Lola Lancaster from Lucky Palms had an affair with both Nick and Bert at some point in her life (her daughter Lina looks exactly like them). I think they found out that she was cheating on them with eachother and then they became enemies.
Art P0P Maybe both theories are true!
Great video with so many new info. It's shame that TS4 isn't in same time line like rest of the franchise. But maybe it's better cause the quality of previous games can't be compared.
Actually, there's a post on tumblr where they solve Bella Goth's dissapearence (it's just a theory of the blog's op ofc, but it makes a lot of sense), and there's mention of how the Sims 4 is an alternate timeline that's also connected to the other games' timeline.
@@blueghost4769 I will check it but TS4 has many differences in "story" compared to franchise. TS3 has Simbots (oldest), TS2 has Servobots (modern version) and TS3 Into the Future has Plumbots (high tech). And there are more of this tiny details that make the franchise come together piece by piece. I love that about TS2 & TS3. Sadly TS4 lacks personality for me.
@@ProtectusCZ i just started playing TS4 again because my TS3 is way too laggy. I love 4, but 3 will always be my favorite, like you said, it had more personality. 3 also has a special place in my heart because it introduced me to the whole franchise.
@@blueghost4769 💯% agree with you
Sims 4 sucks b*lls
Whenever I think of sims families the Landgrabbs and the Goths always come to mind for me haha, but I suppose that’s because they have pretty much appeared in all sims games. With the Sims 2 I found it frustrating with Malcolm’s last name having IV in it because whenever you would make him marry someone then they would also have the IV part in the last name and it don’t make sense for them to have it. Luckily you can change it with this program called Sims PE, but back then I didn’t know about Sims PE so the woman was always stuck with the IV part which was annoying to me haha. I always use to make him marry Nina all the time because of the picture with him and her in the hot tub so it made sense to me. But sometimes I would make Dina fall in love with him despite him being married to her sister haha we need some drama once in awhile 🤣
Liam Griggs you can also change names with this mod called Sim Manipulator too, if you’re looking for something easier!
Satan ! or just any simple “last name changer” mod is fine
When I get the chance to reply TS2, I’m going to marry Dina to Malcom after Morty dies, and Nina can be his mistress. I always get Dina pregnant by Morty, because she would do so for more money when he dies. I might get her to have a child by Malcom, but the last time I did that, Malcolm’s kids were very unfortunate looking lol. Maybe I’ll include that in the story line, that Malcolm’s kid is jealous of Morty’s because they got the good genes 😂
Pretty sure the landgrabbs and the landgraabs are just one clan but one of them misspelled his last name without knowing and still continued to use it even when he made a family. That's what happened to our clan. 😂
Same I knew two besties who had their surnames misspelt like that generations ago!
Or it’s a plot to cover something 😮
In the sims 4 moschino stuff, one of the possible freelance jobs mentions Estrella Landgraab, I suppose it's another member of the family.
oh......
It's crazy how the Agreste family in Miraculous Ladybug is so similar to the TS3 console version Malcolm Landgraab's family... even Adrien as the son with the blonde hair and green eyes is same in both worlds👀
Timothy is the first Sims 3 sim Ever that I find cute. All of them look like potatoes that were cooked for too long.
Timothy is such a handsome sim, I often use him as a base for other male sims in CAS. He's gorgeous. His step-dad isn't half bad either.
If you footer around with the sliders in the sims 3 you can make great looking sims. In fact, my most beautiful sims are from the sims 3. But it took lots of practice. The creators didn't put too much effort into creating pretty pre made sims. But the sims 3 can make the best looking sims.
The Landgraab's seems to be like evil elite in the sims, too many money, secret society, many many businesses of their own, politics, they've been wealthy for centuries
I was shook when I saw this video was 30 minutes but honestly, I'm here for it bc I want all the tea lol
I wish they would remaster the sims 2 there was so much things you could do in it! It was a beautiful game
30 minutes??! You spoil us.
I think I'm gonna start a legacy challenge based on the Landgrabbs now. I feel like it'll be really fun 😀
Love how in dept ur Sims Lore usually are!
Appreciate all the hard work and effort u put in! I hope your channel continues to grow!
Thank you so much ❤️❤️
@@TheSimsLore you deserve more subscribers honey
Judith Ward uses the sims 4’s landgraab’s income for toilet paper!
24:52 oh umm what a build! great job ea team!
In The Sims 3, I made a sim that got Nancy Landgrabb Pregnant 2 times, to see if she would care about her newborns. But no, she went back to work.
I don't think you knew but Johnny Zest is part of the landgrabb family. On the family tree it doesn't show but if you read Johnny's house bio it tells you
Correct me if I'm wrong, and I don't think that was Nina Caliente on Malcom IV's album because that woman has lighter skin, but if it was, it wouldn't be possible for Nina to appear in his relationship panel because Bluewater Village must be manually added to your Neighborhood
In TS4, im currently playing on the 6th (?) generation and i've been playing this family for 3 years. I just figured out that my first sim ever had an affair with the landgrabs and that shocked me.
7:00: Man I love The Sims Bustin Out, I never really realized that until much later on.
I'm so glad you touched on Sims for console! One of my first exposures to The Sims franchise.
The name, "Landgraab" looks like it could be a Dutch name from one of the early New York dynasties.
A few interesting notes: (not comfirmed)
- It is said that Admiral Landgraab founded the sims 2 family line and is the son of Kermit.
-Malcolm IV parents died young.
-Admiral Landgraab grew paranoid and scared and put traps around his house.
-Holly Alto is mom.
-Sims 3 Malcom could be Malcolm from sims Busting out
-Malcolm IV married Bambi from the Ds and then Hannelore from xbox who had Adrien.
(Sorry if you mentioned this already :/)
Edit: Some possible more theories:
Dacian and Misty had admiral Landgraab who had Gregory and Kermit and Kermit founded the sims 3 line and Gregory founded the sims 2 line.
Holly Alto is mom????!!!!!!
@@daphnia9664 it's not confirmed but many people who play sims think Holly Alto is mom who runs away from sunset Valley because of Nick and Vita.
Its more likely that Kermit is the son of Admiral Landgraab, not the other way around. Holly Alto isn't mom, she's a good sim, while mom is evil. Malcolm, son of Nancy, isn't Malcolm IV and this last one never married Hannelore.
I figured that Admiral Landgraab is the grandfather or great grandfather of Kermit and Malcolm Landgraab of Roaring Heights, whom started the Sims 2 family line. Since the Sims 2 mentions Gregory Landgraab was the one whom became rich.
In my game I always try to wreck Landgraabs family 😩
When I played Bustin’ Out idk why but Mimi never sweared at me, we had the coolest 2 girl party roommate vibe. And then when it came to Dudley I always made my sims date him 😂
That bitch mimi cursed me out all the time💀
I was just looking through your videos yesterday to see if you had covered the Landgraabs! Was so excited to see this today!
This must have take so much time!!! Thank you so much for your hard work! This is amazing!
It took a hot minute 😂 thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoy it! ♥️
The Sims Lore you’re too good for us all 😭❤️
I love how long this video is!!
16 ish years of playyong this game and JUST NOW i realized the pun behind Landgraab
Me, who has made my family have 2 million dollars over 7 generations...
I think its something to note that Johnny Zest was sent to a trailer, and Dudley owns a trailer. Also, his parents were grooming Malcom to join their career, and Johnny zest was discharged for wanting to become a comedian and leaving school. Could they be linked somehow?
Dudley just being a lot like his Uncle Johnny xD
Amazing! I noticed you got a bunch of new subscribers. Good! You deserve it so much!
Thank you so much ❤️
In Sim City 3000 I think he (Malcom) is also the one that rewards the defense contractor. To be fair most of the buildings he lobbies for have a positive effect, save the toxic waste disposal plant. I guess you can say the casino is mixed, but it increases the residential cap which more than makes up for the minor crime increase, and the 350$ (or 300$, been awhile since I played) monthly is a nice bonus. The rest of them are all positive things though, especially the theme park which increases the residential cap by some crazy amount, like 200k or something like that. Out of all the lobbyists in Sim City 3k he is probably the sleeziest besides Vinnie.
this is the deep lore i desire
Omg I'm so happy you brought up moonlight bay. Whenever anyone does a landgraab family, they never mention the console version (ps3 and xbox360 version). IDK if you mind but is there anyway you can do a video on the clique household.
Your videos are so well put together, I loved this one too. Not gonna lie, sometimes I'm more interested in sims lore than actual history.
This is very intresting. I really like the Landgraab family and I first made acquintaince with them in The Sims for the Gamecube. This video was so informative and long, love it!
You missed Johnny Zest from Sims 4 who is the son of Nancy and Geoffrey, but changed his name to become a comedian.
In my Sims 3 console playthrough, the family I created had sn elder Sim whom I gave the story of being Malcolm's brother. Malcolm stole his fortune, so the elder Sim had to move into a house with his two sons, their wives and his grandkids. It was fun until the file got corrupted and everything was erased! 😭
I am living for these longer videos 😍 Thank you so much for your time and effort! Amazing video as usual..
I love your channel! I know quite a bit of lore and somehow I still find new stuff in here.
Oh ho ho, this is sooo good. Thanks. I have the Sims Medieval and suspected the Landergrabber's we're the ancestors of the Landgrab's.
I Always found so cool all the men Called malcolm on the family tree but in the sims 3 and 4 they took that alway
Admiral Landgrab might have a parallel with Thomas Cook, who was also killed by natives to an island that he colonised
James... Thomas Cook was an airline looool
If you did more lore for the Sims Medieval, that would be awesome! It's such a fun game :)
Oh my gosh i didnt know that in bustin out malcolm was your sims step dad at one point. Thats weird because i tried to make my sim get together with dudley 😬
Not really, your character isn't related to Dudley.
Oh myyyy a 30 min one! Keep up the good work!
30 minutes of lore? You made my day!
Landgraab also appeared urbz: the sims & sims bustin' out GBA version. Which in urbz he's the main villain (yet his son is one of the helpers)
Good research! I don't necessarily buy the canonical timeline thing, but if it does exist, you've sorted this family well. There are mentions of the Landgraab name in "S2: Castaway" for the console. That game has a special place in my heart, because my entry into The Sims came with the disappointing Wii version of Sims 3. I found Castaway in the pre-owned section of Game Stop and fell in love! That led me to S2 for PC then Sims Medieval and that back to the satisfying S3 for PC! By my reckoning, according to the canonical timeline, Malcolm in S3 Sunset Valley would be "Malcolm II" as he would have to be the grandfather of Malcolm IV. As we known from the Royals, "II" doesn't always equate to "Jr." So maybe Geoffrey's brother or favorite uncle was Malcolm I.
Getting back to the Castaway refs: Have we ever seen a Moneywell? And, if not, why not? Maybe they're antecedents of the Altos... Looking forward to more from Bluewater Village!
The Bluewater village Malcom is probably the nicest Landgrabb.
I've been waiting for this day.
Switching Mr. Alto to the Criminal career, part of his lifetime wish, will fix the inter-office rivalry with him and Nancy. #HappyEndingsForAllSims
I love TSM and I never noticed the Landgraabs there :O That connects TSM to the rest of the franchise's universe 🌈💕
Yeah I don’t think that one sim was Nina Caliente just because that sim was pretty pale to be Nina 😂
Wait.. What if its Mimi & Dudleys mom? Thats why Mimi has red hair
@@artytalkstodragons To be fair, her entire family is brown skinned, and Maybe from that Egyptian world in the sims 3, because they have arab names.
@@shadowsinmymind9 Mimi has blonde hair
Sims medieval was my sh*t back in the days. I would play for dayssss. It’s underrated
I loved this video! so much cool info about the Landgraabs I never knew about! :D
Shopping in Sims 2 was SO satisfying! The little bags! And as shocking as it is... it was FUNCTIONAL.
Haha ah I was wondering if the old console games would be mentioned, because my first time encountering Malcolm was through the Sims Bustin' Out, and his two kids that you can live with in it. Very nostalgic for me, I still associate him with that white suit.
Same here
I just wanted to tell you, I love your videos so much and I’m so excited for this long one! 30 minutes, hell yes! 😍 Thank you for doing this :)
Woah, I noticed you used photos from the LPArchive Let's Play of SC3000 for the Malcolm segment. What did you think of it? It's one of my favorite LP's.
22:30 This Gregory Landgraab is mentioned in one of the chance card for the Painter career in the Sims 4, said he is from the future~ so… uhmm~
28:04 In my story, Malcolm became a National Leader with his newly found political party , and also live with his co worker wife Hannelore Landgraab at San Myshuno
My sim just married Sims 4’s Malcolm landgraab... it was hard, his traits are true very good to flirt with
your videos make quarantine a little bit better
I never knew she was in the criminal career in the sims 4 until my sim joined the career and I saw she was a coworker?? Insane!
26:05
The ginger/red hair and style is the first thing that makes you think "Nina" but this girl's skin is way too pale and Nina is tan.
Edit: However I wonder if the red haired girl in Sims 2, whomever she may be, is part of the red head Landgrabs in the Sims 3 timeline even so there seems to be some sort of detail that I can't put my finger on but the only thing I noticed and that consists is Langrabs are blondes and red heads, preset that is.
Hi. You missed Johnny Zest who is a Landgraab who has been disowned and changed his name. Also I think it's worth noting that the sims 4 version of the console/busting out family on the gallery, are the family of malcom from the sims 4 base game, as the elder in that family is just an aged up version of Malcom. I'm not sure if this is a hint that Sims 4 is a prequel to console/busting out.
He was disowned so he technically wouldn't be considered part of the family anymore.
11:12, I was not expecting to see Admiral Horatio Nelson being apart of the Landgrabb family, I suppose you learn something new everyday.
yesssss long video! more of this please
I come downstairs after working out (not to flex tho...) and open my laptop to a 30min lore video?? I'm excited! :))
I always feel like the Dina photo in Malcom’s memory was meant to be a hint from developers as to how they wanted Malcolm’s story to progress - that he was the next millionaire in the Calente sisters’ sights.
I get how you couldn’t have them know each other in the base game as while every Neighbourhood could have a Bluewater Village, the sisters were only in Pleasantview. However a patch to given them memories and a relationship would have been nice, if such a thing was possible
17:05
Wow, a pc player talking about Moonlight Bay, i have to be dreaming now
I love this video and all these - however you did use the wrong malcolms mansion when talking about the first game for console. You used the bustin out one as opposed to the first one
On Sims 3 on xbox, the landgrabb family was the major and the richest with the biggest lot next to the Clique household
i love how comprehensive these are
In Sims 4 when left to their own devices Nancy and Geoffrey always have 2 more kids and they are always either boys or girls, never a mix. I enjoy messing with this family so my sim or their kids always work their way over to the family somehow.
When i played the sims 2, i used to have Malcolm landgraab IV get with Dina Caliente 😅
Your stories are just amazing!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Thanks for video,Malcolm Landgrabbe in every Sim game I purchased