I had the opportunity & the pleasure to ride in the Thais Long Tail boats over there in Thailand when i was in the military. The Thais used. . . . . & i kid you not. . . . V-6 & V- 8 Chevy/Ford engines for their powerplants. And these boats are fast as all can be!!! Thankya young man for sharing this video. Lookin forward to seeing your boat iut on the water. Take care & God Bless.
Modify the engine mount and place the engine more forward of the pivot. It will add weight on the engine end of the drive and it'll be a lot easier to maneuver along with being easier on your back. The Thais run 1.5 liter diesels(HEAVY!) in their longtail tour boats. It's all a matter of balancing the engine and shaft over the pivot.
How would one of these do in rapids? I have always wondered. I hunt/fish a variety of water up here in da UP of Michigan. I duck hunt in muck that is like going through wet concrete, also fish for salmon/steelhead in shallow rivers with lots of rapids. I was thinking of building a jet jon for a while but it would clog in the muck. Wondering if you could run fast rivers with a set-up like this or if the tail would pop out of the water.
It idles. It just doesn't have a clutch to be in neutral. But that also gives more power to the prop being straight drive. Thinking about getting one and slapping a motor like yours on it. Maybe a 20 hp. Idk yet. Probably have the same boat you have
You said 16 HP how does that compare power-wise or maybe I should say output wise to a regular outboard of a 16 horsepower class? I'm also wondering about RPM and the output because small engines of the type you have there I don't believe are known for being good for very high RPM. The small engine goes to what 3000-4000 Max probably but a Yamaha or Honda Outboard crank up pretty high maybe five six thousand or more. Obviously you could run away from those guys in the mud but can you keep up with them in Open Water
I'm not sure on exact specs but I anit going to lie there pretty slow compared to an outboard lol open water outboard would smoke me no doubt but like you said I can go where an outboard wouldn't even move lol
Bro, I need the brackets, the shaft and the whole thing that converts that engine to be an outboard. I have a motor, but I want it converted to an outboard. Bro help, where can I get the kit.
@@jordanbrooks4127 Thxs,, I have a 650 Suzuki motorcycle I got 7 years ago,,, it's not that heavy, the bikes beat up realgood, I think if I could harnness it to a stand it would work,,, stay warm, gb
Yes it will none of it is marine grade anything honestly the only quality part of the rig is the static coupling from motor to shaft. Its a nicely machined peice of steel. Also the rig i worked on used grub screws that sit in keyway of motor in place of an actual keyway and shear key type assy. Seeing as there is absolutely no shock absorbing design to this prop/shaft setup i assume the grub screws are their version of a shear key. Better than detonating a motor everytime u hit a log. Honestly if u have access to even a neigbors shed w some very basic metal forming tools. You can easily fab up a rig better than this for same price.
The prop is aluminum and made to be the weak link in the system. They sell the props cheap so you can pick up a couple and change on the water. They also offer a stainless shaft
I don’t see it no louder that someone coming up through flooded timber with a regular outboard,,and every time they go across a log ,,the exhaust blows up out of the water,,actually not as loud In my opinion,,cause you would b idling,,,and someone coming up through there with an outboard would b gunning to get across logs and blowing the exhaust out of the water,,,so your good man,,,and besides that if your where the ducks want to b they will come back,,,they are stupid that way,,,always go where the ducks want to b,,that way you wont b second guessing yourself
I don't know why someone couldn't put some lead weights inside their handle or clamp some on the outside of their handle to balance it out somewhat. I think you could do it in a way that it would hardly be noticeable especially with matching paint. I have other ideas how to make it better but I would want copyright benefits...maybe the owners will contact me ;)
@@jordanbrooks4127 I don't know how I ended up here, but I enjoyed your video all the same! I enjoy boating and all things engines. I tinker with go-karts and these clone engines. LOL, I could take the governor out, put a billet rod and racing cam and billet flywheel in that thing, and aftermarket exhaust and open up the carb and bigger valves and shave the head and make that little darling really make some waves!!! it would just make more noise!!! But it would sure go a lot faster!!! But then I don't know what the RPM range your prop is tuned for, may have to go with something a little bigger and more pitch!!! Thanks for the video!
Why not just make a locking system on your bracket instead of a tie-down like that? I get it's easy but just a thought. That is, if you even have this anymore lol.
You shouldn’t have to worry about duck hunting. Ducks won’t spook like that, gatortails and pro drives just idle in and the ducks don’t care I’ve done it many times
I had the opportunity & the pleasure to ride in the Thais Long Tail boats over there in Thailand when i was in the military. The Thais used. . . . . & i kid you not. . . . V-6 & V- 8 Chevy/Ford engines for their powerplants. And these boats are fast as all can be!!! Thankya young man for sharing this video. Lookin forward to seeing your boat iut on the water. Take care & God Bless.
Modify the engine mount and place the engine more forward of the pivot. It will add weight on the engine end of the drive and it'll be a lot easier to maneuver along with being easier on your back. The Thais run 1.5 liter diesels(HEAVY!) in their longtail tour boats. It's all a matter of balancing the engine and shaft over the pivot.
Thanks for turning it around, i was sure beginning to scratch my head a little
Very nice 👌 Look forward to some video of you putting it to the test!
Jtgatoring! Are you serious! I can't believe you r comment ing on my video dude I based my whole boat on your set up this is awesome!
@@jordanbrooks4127 Yes sir! I'm always looking for a good longtail video 👍 keep em coming YT Bass!
Tip for your handle, use what is called a locking mountain bike grip. It's cheap and locks on with allen screws.
That's a good idea thanks!!
This review really helped me out as well as give me a lot to think about.
Jordan did you use the large kit with the 16hp duromax and would you recommend it for a 12 ft boat
That looks like a good mount to traverse the tight swamps/rivers of Northeastern North Carolina.
BoogalooBoy1776 yes great set up for any swamp or river!
@@jordanbrooks4127 I used to have a baja 200cc mini bike, if i could fiddle with the engine on that, i could do this.
How would one of these do in rapids? I have always wondered. I hunt/fish a variety of water up here in da UP of Michigan. I duck hunt in muck that is like going through wet concrete, also fish for salmon/steelhead in shallow rivers with lots of rapids. I was thinking of building a jet jon for a while but it would clog in the muck. Wondering if you could run fast rivers with a set-up like this or if the tail would pop out of the water.
Kyle Karwowski I think a rig like this would be your best bet!
Amigo muy bien su pque peque quiero hacer uno pero no se cuanto mide de largo el tubo y el largo de la aspa.
Si me puedes ayudar con esod daticos
pretty cool! hows it holding up? btw, whats the thrust on that minnkota?
32lb it pulls it great!!! And thanks she holding up great!!
It idles. It just doesn't have a clutch to be in neutral. But that also gives more power to the prop being straight drive. Thinking about getting one and slapping a motor like yours on it. Maybe a 20 hp. Idk yet. Probably have the same boat you have
Did you put your 18hp on a 8-16hp kit? I’m about to order one an didn’t know if it work I’ve got the same motor
You said 16 HP how does that compare power-wise or maybe I should say output wise to a regular outboard of a 16 horsepower class? I'm also wondering about RPM and the output because small engines of the type you have there I don't believe are known for being good for very high RPM. The small engine goes to what 3000-4000 Max probably but a Yamaha or Honda Outboard crank up pretty high maybe five six thousand or more. Obviously you could run away from those guys in the mud but can you keep up with them in Open Water
I'm not sure on exact specs but I anit going to lie there pretty slow compared to an outboard lol open water outboard would smoke me no doubt but like you said I can go where an outboard wouldn't even move lol
I’m looking for one but can you take this on Mississippi River
Does it drink gas pretty fast? Noticed you got a gas can in the boat
I would hook up the kill switch,20mph is fast for a 14ft jonboat.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 snowflake
Snowflake. You mean guy who doesnt want a boat running off by itself to kill someone else or destroy their property
Bro, I need the brackets, the shaft and the whole thing that converts that engine to be an outboard.
I have a motor,
but I want it converted to an outboard.
Bro help, where can I get the kit.
Nice review,, are they any kits out there that's not so long,, keep safe,, gb
As fair as the swamp runner brand there all long but I'm sure there are some different ones out there that are!!
@@jordanbrooks4127 Thxs,, I have a 650 Suzuki motorcycle I got 7 years ago,,, it's not that heavy, the bikes beat up realgood, I think if I could harnness it to a stand it would work,,, stay warm, gb
Awesome
What size swamp runner kit is that and how much did it cost
Tyler Rickenbaker it’s the medium kit and 499
Can't you just lift the prop out the water for neutral when running ?
900 STX yes you can do that !
I want one I'm sick of the high cost of the motors around here and maintaining them. The predators engines are simple and tough.
Little late on the comment but supposed to glue that handle on so it doesn’t slide
put a little shoe-goo in the foam handle and glue it in !
Will salt water kill the shaft or props
Yes it will none of it is marine grade anything honestly the only quality part of the rig is the static coupling from motor to shaft. Its a nicely machined peice of steel. Also the rig i worked on used grub screws that sit in keyway of motor in place of an actual keyway and shear key type assy. Seeing as there is absolutely no shock absorbing design to this prop/shaft setup i assume the grub screws are their version of a shear key. Better than detonating a motor everytime u hit a log. Honestly if u have access to even a neigbors shed w some very basic metal forming tools. You can easily fab up a rig better than this for same price.
The prop is aluminum and made to be the weak link in the system. They sell the props cheap so you can pick up a couple and change on the water. They also offer a stainless shaft
There's a learning curve but once you learn it they'll take you anywhere and there's no such thing as getting stuck (unless it's a sand bar)
I don’t see it no louder that someone coming up through flooded timber with a regular outboard,,and every time they go across a log ,,the exhaust blows up out of the water,,actually not as loud In my opinion,,cause you would b idling,,,and someone coming up through there with an outboard would b gunning to get across logs and blowing the exhaust out of the water,,,so your good man,,,and besides that if your where the ducks want to b they will come back,,,they are stupid that way,,,always go where the ducks want to b,,that way you wont b second guessing yourself
Tom Jones hell yea you right for real!!!!
I don't know why someone couldn't put some lead weights inside their handle or clamp some on the outside of their handle to balance it out somewhat. I think you could do it in a way that it would hardly be noticeable especially with matching paint. I have other ideas how to make it better but I would want copyright benefits...maybe the owners will contact me ;)
W U that’s not a bad idea I’d like to see that!
@@jordanbrooks4127 I don't know how I ended up here, but I enjoyed your video all the same! I enjoy boating and all things engines. I tinker with go-karts and these clone engines. LOL, I could take the governor out, put a billet rod and racing cam and billet flywheel in that thing, and aftermarket exhaust and open up the carb and bigger valves and shave the head and make that little darling really make some waves!!! it would just make more noise!!! But it would sure go a lot faster!!! But then I don't know what the RPM range your prop is tuned for, may have to go with something a little bigger and more pitch!!! Thanks for the video!
Why not just make a locking system on your bracket instead of a tie-down like that? I get it's easy but just a thought.
That is, if you even have this anymore lol.
How much is the swamp runner mud motor kit..thx
stonypointer 500 for kit and depends on motor I paid 300 for mine
YT Bass thank you sir
Is that the 100 inch shaft or 85?
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*$800 is expensive... in my country that setup only cost $200-250 with GX390 clone 13HP motor.*
where I live to ,, but a days salary is only $10
The ducks come back I don't worry about that
It's so back heavy cause you mounted the motor on backwards. Not even playing.
you said that motor setup set back about 800 thats entirely too much money for that sorry was considering one these but now im not
georgiaridgerunner 79 yea all boat motors are expensive
@@jordanbrooks4127 yes they are overly expensive so much so that im considering selling my boat
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You shouldn’t have to worry about duck hunting. Ducks won’t spook like that, gatortails and pro drives just idle in and the ducks don’t care I’ve done it many times
Put one round of duct tape on the bar then beat the handle on there and will not come off.
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