Breaking Eu4 with DAILY Elections

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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  • @LemonCake101
    @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +35

    A nice short and sweet one, just something I found and thought it would be cool to share. I also noticed I forgot to tell you to like the video if you haven't already, and subscribe please, so em... go do that now I guess?
    Anyway come cope in my discord: discord.gg/bSs2e9YsFv

    • @avisdunrandom
      @avisdunrandom 3 місяці тому +1

      Maybe an idea for a futur video but how about "drilling gain modifier"
      We can start as Provence to get +25% permanently and then form Holland or Prussia to get +25% (from Prussia permanently ) (+30 from Holland for 25years) (think forming Holland first will be easier since it's closer but since Holland is only temporary, we can form it after forming Prussia)
      Then form France to get +50% from ideas and change your religion for Sikh to get +50% more.
      We can also form Rum for janissary unit since they have +50%
      Add that the +40% from decision (the one that increase your maintenance), +100% from 100 professionalism, +50% for holding Ambras Castle at tier 3)

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      @@avisdunrandom I mean its something I guess, dunno if its an interesting one to get though, I mean drill is one where you can just... wait a couple more month.

    • @KA-zo2he
      @KA-zo2he 3 місяці тому

      ​@@LemonCake101well, it would be some fun to send in battle only the armies which have max drill

  • @noxfelis5333
    @noxfelis5333 3 місяці тому +286

    Schools hate this one trick, turn into Albert Einstein in just 6 days.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +35

      Just win 5 elections in 5 days

  • @cakeonfrosting8105
    @cakeonfrosting8105 3 місяці тому +252

    I like to imagine this is how elections based on social media would play out

  • @calmkat9032
    @calmkat9032 3 місяці тому +71

    Republics are when you elect people, and the more you elect people, the more of a republic you are, and if you elect a real lot of people, it's the Roman Senate.

  • @fyfef
    @fyfef 3 місяці тому +88

    I just imagine the bloated senate apparatus in rome required to do daily elections during a time where humanity has not even figured out where half the planet even is and their fastest mode of travelling is by horse

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +14

      I am working out the half the planet thing in fairness!

    • @dfg7418
      @dfg7418 3 місяці тому +4

      Knowing how Rome used to work, this sounds like something they would do LOL

  • @pogusmogus3573
    @pogusmogus3573 3 місяці тому +188

    Remain calm
    The all provinces tierlist endures
    Lemon cake will suffer
    My fingers yearn for death typing this out
    There is much to be done

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +22

      ko-fi.com/summary/5bed0046-8db5-4f7e-8354-9230dfa2c3ae

    • @nrbmemes2414
      @nrbmemes2414 3 місяці тому +10

      I like to imagine there is one millionaire here​@@LemonCake101

    • @BotPlays2222
      @BotPlays2222 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@LemonCake101We need to start a go fund me

    • @pogusmogus3573
      @pogusmogus3573 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@LemonCake101 there are 2 paths to the video, bourgouise patronage or rallying the proleteriat.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +10

      @@BotPlays2222 are you trying to crowdfund my crowdfunding?

  • @emib6599
    @emib6599 3 місяці тому +64

    Italian government simulator.
    They inherited that from the romans

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +6

      True successors or something?

    • @marcoagostini7866
      @marcoagostini7866 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@LemonCake101since the referendum to change from monarchy to republic (1946) we had about 70 different governments

  • @IAmMrGreat
    @IAmMrGreat 3 місяці тому +126

    To be fair, winning 5 elections in a row is really impressive and takes either a tyrant or a genious saint irl.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +30

      He is very electable, trust!

    • @celeridad6972
      @celeridad6972 3 місяці тому +3

      Why not both? Putin is almost a genius and almost a tyrant, he's on his 5th term xD

    • @MyUsersDark
      @MyUsersDark 3 місяці тому +24

      @@celeridad6972 but not a saint
      I doubt you could call him a genius by the developments of the past years, either

    • @ГалущакОлександр
      @ГалущакОлександр 3 місяці тому +4

      Certified Franklin Delano Roosevelt classic

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 3 місяці тому +5

      Or just a really skilled politician

  • @illicitline4552
    @illicitline4552 3 місяці тому +18

    4:15 "Dividing by zero creates a lot of problems in many cases"
    I dare evan say, all cases

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +1

      Many is a section of all end of the day ;)

  • @kola42069
    @kola42069 3 місяці тому +53

    I choose to interpret it that you basically play as an anarchistic federation with a a very direct democracy, and the daily elections are meant to represent the fact that your residents basically directly vote on every matter everyday :)

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +20

      fair enough, in which case these governments are really good at generating monarch points

  • @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva
    @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva 3 місяці тому +29

    This is basically what being an Asari in Mass Effect is like. They have a direct democratic system facilitated by magic space technology that basically means every citizen is constantly bombarded with referenda like popup ads.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +11

      Somehow magic space technology seems more believable then daily elections...

    • @Xazamas
      @Xazamas 3 місяці тому +1

      Very similar concept was used by Alastair Reynolds in his 'Revelation Space' -series.
      Major human faction, "Demarchists" (Democratic Anarchists), are able to run a functional society because they're all connected by neural implants that allow them to seamlessly vote on referenda.
      Exact description differs between short story 'Spy in Europa' and novel "Prefect" (this could be explained that former is from POV of hostile outsider, and latter is all Demarchists.)
      -'Spy in Europa' describes that eventually the Demarchists start voting subconsciously or subliminally. The titular spy considers this disgusting, but he may have been indoctrinated by a totalitarian regime from what I remember (also the entire story is kind of a homage to the Cold War espionage thrillers.)
      -'Prefect' features one of the many habitats in Glitter Band (orbiting exoplanet Yellowstone) that more or less explicitly sells some of their voting power - the system analyses people's votes based on hindsight, and gives more voting weight to those who voted "correctly." People living in the said habitat actively participate in all the optional referendum, always making sure to vote on what is most likely going to be the best options in terms of long-term society-wide benefit. Thus, their votes are weighed much more heavily than votes from average citizens. Compensate them for the potential hit on their "social credit score" and they'll vote like you want to. The titular Prefects, who are the police/peacekeeping force, don't seem to be above this or even consider it a bad thing - they lament that the habitat is unable to vote in favour of declaring a state of emergency. (Without going too much into spoiler territory, they could've just assumed the Habitat would vote "yes" if their communications weren't down.)

  • @abrvalg321
    @abrvalg321 3 місяці тому +20

    Some notes:
    1) irl Roman republic had elections every year
    2) 3:25 not all republics are democracies, there is no guarantee that everyone could vote.
    3) 4:11 it's not. Republican tradition penalty is proportional to the term length. So it's multiplication, not division. I can't remember how exactly it's stored in memory and how rounding works but it would cost you either 0 or the minimal unit to re-elect.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +7

      1) I know!
      2) Yeah fair
      3) Oh good point. Eu4 still treats division by 0 to equal 0, I just guess this was an example off.

    • @abrvalg321
      @abrvalg321 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LemonCake101 They should be adults and just define INF and assign it when dividing by 0.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +1

      @@abrvalg321 I don't have access to source code, so no idea, my claim comes from other random times I stumbled on a division by 0 in Eu4

    • @brutusthebear9050
      @brutusthebear9050 3 місяці тому

      Im convinced that the term democracy in its modern form only exists because Britain wanted to distinguish itself from the Central powers in WW1. "We aren't like other monarchies so we can keep ours while getting rid of other monarchies!!!"

  • @Code-Imp
    @Code-Imp 3 місяці тому +21

    Reminds me of Transistor's cloudbank's people voting on everything made everything dull until the antagonists decided to take away people's power

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +1

      Never heard of this, sounds cool though

  • @ludovanwieringen
    @ludovanwieringen 3 місяці тому +11

    The formula for rep trad lost on re-election doesn't involve division. It is simply term length multiplied by 2,5. Multiplication by 0 results in 0. The math works, no work around needed.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +4

      Ah fair, yeah I was wrong there. The division by 0 fun fact still stands though AFAIK!

  • @phileascurtil5605
    @phileascurtil5605 3 місяці тому +7

    For 100 government reform you can have infinite mana and switch in and out as you want. You take it when you want mana for techs, ideas, deving and when you want to play a war you switch out of it to be able to play.

  • @GusanGaming
    @GusanGaming 3 місяці тому +8

    Hi Lemon when switching leaders to remove bad traits remember to do it earlier in the month, at the month tick you were only a 6/5/5 and lost out on 2 mana points that month

  • @grapetwo5693
    @grapetwo5693 3 місяці тому +4

    Rome arrives in the arabian desert, Constructs a mega city in the desert in one month

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +3

      Rome wasn't built in a day, but Rome 2 sure was!

  • @SnakeonLSD
    @SnakeonLSD 3 місяці тому +2

    I figured this out too through mods. Always wondered if it could be done normally. Also, 0 year elections can look pretty funny if you give it to the AI.

  • @hiptoptoe4847
    @hiptoptoe4847 3 місяці тому +5

    What the hell is going on in this Rome campaign that you’re currying favours with Carib??

  • @remidepont2603
    @remidepont2603 3 місяці тому +8

    How about stacking negative modifiers ? Like trying to have as much unrest as possible, or the lowest discipline. Could be funny

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +9

      I did it once before, issue a lot are 'uncapped' so unrest is just get max OE

    • @carltonleboss
      @carltonleboss 3 місяці тому +2

      Is 0% discipline even possible?

    • @EbonySaints
      @EbonySaints 3 місяці тому +4

      80% should be doable. Just play as a Mesoamerican or Incan native with Divine Ideas and get "The Dying of the Light" event (-5%) as well as "A Generation of Cowards" event (-5%) while going through the "Rapid Collapse of Society" triggered modifier (-10%). Watch and be amazed as your already backwards 24 stack gets wiped by Norway's 2 stack sneezing in their direction.
      Also, that first event is what makes Divine a really bad idea group unless you can stack it. No, the 5% free discipline event doesn't make up for it.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      @@carltonleboss Legitimately I would say no

  • @SilviuGhujer
    @SilviuGhujer 3 місяці тому +2

    If you do this in mp you don't have to worry about events pausing the game - so it is actually playable

    • @christianwhite8877
      @christianwhite8877 3 місяці тому

      That is if the server doesn't mind the election spam

  • @GrainMuncher
    @GrainMuncher 3 місяці тому +2

    5:50
    That’s called a parliament.

  • @AwayAtKeyboard
    @AwayAtKeyboard 3 місяці тому

    The way I'd imagine this working is that each person votes for a particular canditate, and their vote is considered to be the same each day after that until they actively change it.

  • @wojciech7358
    @wojciech7358 3 місяці тому

    I tried it with x10 mod and since the modifier there is -1.5 years you can stack it so the term is negative and reelection gives you republican tradition, another funny interaction for this gem of a mod.

  • @yuujinagane7960
    @yuujinagane7960 3 місяці тому +4

    Nice vid as always

  • @ThatOneGuy8305
    @ThatOneGuy8305 3 місяці тому +1

    I kinda like Paradox not capping modifiers. If modders want to make the game explode that's on them. Leaving modifiers uncapped forces Paradox to think more carefully about modifiers added - you need to be deliberate with adding re-lection time because if you aren't then you wind up with this.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +1

      While true, they tend to end up capping and adding anyway, as its pretty easy 'content' to sell in a DLC: look cool mission gives number buff!

  • @Xcyiterr
    @Xcyiterr 3 місяці тому +3

    ah yes
    democracy at its finest

  • @EndoClaw
    @EndoClaw 3 місяці тому +2

    To be fair this would be very democratic assuming elections are relatively free and fair

  • @laurencedixon5307
    @laurencedixon5307 3 місяці тому

    This video reminded me of Bruva Alfabusas video for Wh40k Eternal Crusade beta.where a glitch had him constantly reloading

  • @dunndudebemelol
    @dunndudebemelol 3 місяці тому +1

    Imagine this in MP

  • @marskalkblixten
    @marskalkblixten 3 місяці тому +1

    6:38 MANAGED DEMOCRACY CALLS FOR AID

  • @matthewmcneany
    @matthewmcneany 3 місяці тому +4

    Elect harder lads.

  • @pelinalwhitestrake3367
    @pelinalwhitestrake3367 3 місяці тому

    Considering that you get 50 monarch points every day, you can absolutely build Dubai in the middle of the desert.

  • @MasterBeiberEverything
    @MasterBeiberEverything 3 місяці тому +7

    Hi Lemon Cake

  • @AtkinsSJ
    @AtkinsSJ 3 місяці тому

    Now I'm curious what would happen if the election term became negative.

    • @christianwhite8877
      @christianwhite8877 3 місяці тому

      I think it would basically become an elective monarchy (no elections until the ruler dies but the ruler rules for life, it just so happens they are not nearly skilled enough to be worth it). That or time travel is involved to rig the elections, though from the game mechanics it would remain the same (however. In theory, you could be able to gain Republican tradition each time the person is re-elected) I don't think anything else could change

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +2

      Nothing fun to be honest, it still daily elections, tested with a mod I made.

    • @AtkinsSJ
      @AtkinsSJ 3 місяці тому

      @@LemonCake101 Thanks for testing it out!

  • @basvriese1934
    @basvriese1934 3 місяці тому

    Clearly democracy is the best form of government we have yet to come up with

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      Indeed, it prints monarch points too!

  • @TocsTheWanderer
    @TocsTheWanderer 3 місяці тому +1

    I love democracy

  • @svingvejv3593
    @svingvejv3593 3 місяці тому

    Just don't force pause on events and it will automatically pick the right option.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      If you don't pause it enters the next day without triggering another election

  • @theorixlux
    @theorixlux 3 місяці тому

    Hey, can you go spectator mode? Genuinely curious how the AI deals with your new empire.

  • @lordedmundblackadder9321
    @lordedmundblackadder9321 3 місяці тому

    The Roman Republic should have a term duration of 1, and you should not be able to re-elect. That’s how the real Republic worked. (Technically consuls could be re-elected but you had to wait ten years between terms, but implementing that would probably be annoying.)

  • @yuriko_AH
    @yuriko_AH 3 місяці тому

    "I love democracy"

  • @CKyIe
    @CKyIe 3 місяці тому

    You could just disable that popup and it would automatically chose to keep the guy after 3 months, right? So that massive boost in mana points would just happen in the background. It might lag the game if it always has 90 background popups though.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      nope, because if you don't click the poppup the next election doesn't happen.

    • @CKyIe
      @CKyIe 3 місяці тому

      @@LemonCake101 ah, that's a shame

  • @DnaKGames
    @DnaKGames 3 місяці тому

    @lemoncake101 i demand cake with my democracy, and to eat it too

  • @frederickwood1384
    @frederickwood1384 3 місяці тому

    This looks like it would be fun for a short time, but I don't have the patience to reform the Roman Republic. Is there a way to achieve the same thing with mods or console commands? I tried adding a modifier to Venice to drop election intervals by 4 years, but I guess I did it wrong.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      Mods are the way here really, and I mean any mod that can give you access to another -2 overall years of re-election somewhere would work.

    • @frederickwood1384
      @frederickwood1384 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@LemonCake101My real question is where should I put that modifier? I know you're not an expert in modding, but I really have no idea what might work and what wouldn't. I don't even know what term to use in the files in order to change that number.

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      @@frederickwood1384 probably best to go to custom ideas and buff the custom -1 yearly election one to -2: but up to you, modding is the start of a whole other can of worms

  • @danielutriabrooks477
    @danielutriabrooks477 3 місяці тому +1

    Still more stable than the average italian goverment

  • @nathanaelsallhageriksson1719
    @nathanaelsallhageriksson1719 3 місяці тому +1

    I heckin' love democracy

  • @easytiger6570
    @easytiger6570 3 місяці тому

    Peak democracy

  • @kmanniac
    @kmanniac 3 місяці тому

    Just reform into this and then reform out once yo have enough points

  • @SuperPlays01
    @SuperPlays01 3 місяці тому

    Legio MMXXIV Ye
    What did LemonCake mean by this?

  • @elcazador3349
    @elcazador3349 3 місяці тому

    What in the unmanaged Democracy is this!?

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +1

      needs desperate management indeed

  • @Quwertyn007
    @Quwertyn007 3 місяці тому

    Isn't this multiplication by 0 instead of division?

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      Yes, I messed up, it is; but the x/0 = 0 still stands overall AFAIK.

  • @romegypt5675
    @romegypt5675 3 місяці тому +1

    when is this coming to lemon mod?

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      A bit too innovative even for me

  • @Speedster___
    @Speedster___ 3 місяці тому

    5:38 for political commentary
    I feel like you can get Evoting. That said are we having an inauguration every day? So much pomp and circus

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      I don't know how evoting would work in 1248 in fairness

  • @Idontknowwhattocallmyself
    @Idontknowwhattocallmyself 3 місяці тому

    imagine this but losing 10 republican tradition every day to re-elect

    • @christianwhite8877
      @christianwhite8877 3 місяці тому +1

      How to make a republic into a dictatorship in 10 days

  • @theaccount27
    @theaccount27 3 місяці тому +1

    Republican tradition go brr

  • @Speedster___
    @Speedster___ 3 місяці тому

    1:55 what did 100% do?

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      Each province cost 1 warscore, regardless of development etc, and cost 1 admin to core instantly, leading to a situation where you could take 100 provinces per war with basically no repercussions.

    • @Speedster___
      @Speedster___ 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@LemonCake101 A: I thought AdEf was capped like CCR? B: that makes sense minus the core instantly

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому

      @@Speedster___ it is now used to not be

  • @Elvenpath1337
    @Elvenpath1337 3 місяці тому +1

    This stuff is why I avoid most mods. Game is already broken enough as is. 😆

  • @pedroKwiecinski
    @pedroKwiecinski 3 місяці тому

    Mayo, i created a really absurd and interesting challenge run(that sadly i can't do) i called it the "PU hell", you need to start as sweden, befriend in the independence war England and Burgundy, get a PU on England during their crisis, PU Burgundy, through the focus three get Poland, Lithuania, Romania and the Teutons(Poland must had all of them as vassals), PU norway then inherit england and form it, get the PU fron focus tree with France and Scotland, through diplomacy get a PU with Castile/Spain, inherit and form spain, use the focus tree to get Portugal, Austria(Austria shall have Bohemia and Hungary) and Naples, become the emperor of HRE and unify it

  • @justsomerat1493
    @justsomerat1493 3 місяці тому +3

    Your time is near

  • @RelinquereCK
    @RelinquereCK 3 місяці тому

    can you not disable the popup?

    • @LemonCake101
      @LemonCake101  3 місяці тому +1

      I can but I wanted to complain :P

  • @mytiliss682
    @mytiliss682 3 місяці тому

    That's literally how the Managed Democracy (c) works.