The mention of it being the last day was in the closedown. ATV bowed out with class. A few minutes reminiscing with Mike Prince and Shaw Taylor, and also conveying (with some honesty) their excitement for Central.
@@pak8606 Well, Central TV was ATV, albeit under a new name, so it was easy for them to go out with class. Southern took the dire way, but it wasn't a pleasant moment for them after all ; but I agree they sent off their license the opposite way TSW (and TVS) did, as both held parties celebrating their best programs and wishing goodluck to their succesor :)
ATV was just undergoing a name change. Part of the franchise remit that ATV had retained was that the channel used a name to reflect the region. Central did that, so ATV only died in name and not vain as Southern did.
@@Candolad What difference did it make to the viewers that they were forced to drop the name ATV. Same programmes, same presenters. The IBA had too much power but were beyond pathetic.
BizMarkUK This was at first called 'Midland Parade' by Johnny Pearson and was the B-side of a 1975 Pye '45', 'Red Alert'. The version we hear here is an obvious rearrangment for full orchestra (original was largely rhythm and brass only, mostly) Atb 👍😊
Ah. As a Southern T.V.S. Meridian viewer this was used then. From 1975 until A.T.V. had the name change to Central from 1st January 1982? A more mellow version though lovely. From The New Forest GOD BLESS!
Used to watch ATV in Granada land Cheshire. In the 1970s on VHF 405 from Sutton Coldfield, and then later, with a much stronger signal into Cheshire from the Wrekin on UHF.
@@trevordance5181 My mistake. I was a youngster at the time and thought it was Sutton Coldfield. I remember tuning into some mysterious test transmission colour bars that had a fairly strong signal into Cheshire, down at the lower end of the UHF band to Granada. I thought, what is this? Eventually I come to realise it was ATV Wrekin. Gave me a much better signal than VHF.
I could not imagine American commercial television organized like it is in the UK. But in a way, having companies like CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox have to apply for the right to keep broadcasting might result in better quality. Right now the cable networks and Netflix are doing what the "legacy: networks should be doing here.
It's run differently now, unfortunately. The rules were relaxed in 1993 and larger companies were allowed to buy up smaller ones. In-vision announcers were replaced with just audio and each distinct ITV region became lost as the franchise system became national. ITN (Indépendant Télévision News) became ITV News and the UK lost a real fantastic quality commercial channel with 14 regional franchises.
It's called Midlands Montage. And yes, you can get a copy from somewhere, since this is very much a clean copy of the track dubbed over video from a very old videotape!
Southern appeared to be in denial for as long as possible; the continuity set had the logo in black and white as if there were a funeral and the final programme - 'And It's Goodbye From Us' (on UA-cam somewhere) - was a thrown-together, self-pitying '... Screw You...' to the IBA, TVS and. saddest of all, the public. They had an opportunity to bow out with dignity; an opportunity which they blew in a fashion that is as sad as it is awful.
Was really surprised that Southern was allowed to get away with that last programme, I know they were fined for going 45 minutes over the cut off time, but in my view, at the stroke of midnight the signal feed should have been cut so leaving them to stew in there own juices alone!
@@stuartharris2165 I know at that time the IBA were the broadcaster who controlled the transmitters and the regional ITV company was simply a contractor providing a programme service, but I rather suspect given the engineering of the time since Southern were doing their own transmission (as every station did) then they probably could continue to just keep pushing their feed out to the transmitter sites which would be generally unstaffed and so could stay on air the extra 45 minutes as they did. Given that TVS were taking over the same building and the same transmission suite the following day there would have been no engineering requirement to change the transmission arrangements as the new franchisee took over so therefore no one on site to change anything around as nothing needed changing. The only thing I can see be doable remotely to cut Southern off at the stroke of midnight would be to cut their access to a network transmission but they weren't showing one; when it came to just pushing out a regional broadcast it would have likely taken IBA intervention at the transmitter sites to physically stop Southern broadcasting just to keep those same staff on hand to reconnect for TVS later. Far easier to just let Southern have their little tantrum of broadcasting 45 minutes into 1982 and fine them for unlicensed broadcasting after.
ATV "lost" it's franchise to Central on December 28th 1980. I think you mean one day before the new franchise started under Central. (Yes, I know they were technically the same company with new management).
ATV didn't lose the Midlands franchise, it simply had to restructure and rename itself to reflect the identity of the region. It also had have split programming for the West and East Midlands as ATV News had tended to just focus on Birmingham.
Funny that she did not mention that it was the last day of ATV. The Southern start up from 31/12/81 did not mention that either. I have not seen the Westward start up from New Year's Eve 1981.
Basically ATV hadn't lost the franchise, but were forced to rename themselves and Lord Grade had to sell his part of the company if I remember correctly
I was furious when Southern lost their franchise. It was a model ITV region. Most of the programmes had no internal commercial break and they produced classic children's shows like "How", Worzel Gummidge", "Enid Blyton's Famous Five" and "Runaround" . They also produced "Out of Town" with Jack Hargreaves, and had a couple of Glynde Bourne operas every season as well as broadcasting the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra concerts. Southern was a fantastic ITV regional channel as is sorely missed.
@@Candolad Nah. They spat their dummies out when they lost their franchise by sheer bloody-mindedness and complacency because they didn't want to change anything in a world that was changing. TVS was far, far better.
@@GryphLane Southern never really got out of the 1950s. Their application amounted to just 16 pages. The 1980 franchise round was fair, unlike the farce in 1991.
@@Candolad They produced Houseparty too. A load of middleclass, probably Tory women of a certain age, talking interminable twaddle over coffee, cake and knitting patterns. It was like something out of the 1940's or 1950's. Absolute tosh.
+bbctim123'schannel (fuck me that's a hard code name to remember!!) have you put some sort of block on the "late 70's atv adverts" upload! Because i can't reply to robin carmodys comment i can only report it as spam on the menu (i am doing this from an iphone!) on everything else on yt i can reply to people's comments but not this explain??!!!!
The Midlands Montage....... good memories from when i was a kid way back then.
God i remember this, brings back a few memories
The mention of it being the last day was in the closedown. ATV bowed out with class. A few minutes reminiscing with Mike Prince and Shaw Taylor, and also conveying (with some honesty) their excitement for Central.
Unlike Southern, they bowed out bitterly
@@pak8606 Well, Central TV was ATV, albeit under a new name, so it was easy for them to go out with class. Southern took the dire way, but it wasn't a pleasant moment for them after all ; but I agree they sent off their license the opposite way TSW (and TVS) did, as both held parties celebrating their best programs and wishing goodluck to their succesor :)
ATV was just undergoing a name change. Part of the franchise remit that ATV had retained was that the channel used a name to reflect the region. Central did that, so ATV only died in name and not vain as Southern did.
@@Candolad Kinda. The style of Central was subtly different.
@@Candolad What difference did it make to the viewers that they were forced to drop the name ATV. Same programmes, same presenters. The IBA had too much power but were beyond pathetic.
Midlands Montage - in Stereo! Wow!
Yes - where did *that* come from?!
BizMarkUK
This was at first called 'Midland Parade' by Johnny Pearson and was the B-side of a 1975 Pye '45', 'Red Alert'. The version we hear here is an obvious rearrangment for full orchestra (original was largely rhythm and brass only, mostly) Atb 👍😊
Ah. As a Southern T.V.S. Meridian viewer this was used then. From 1975 until A.T.V. had the name change to Central from 1st January 1982? A more mellow version though lovely. From The New Forest GOD BLESS!
Used to watch ATV in Granada land Cheshire. In the 1970s on VHF 405 from Sutton Coldfield, and then later, with a much stronger signal into Cheshire from the Wrekin on UHF.
ATV VHF 405 lines was beamed from the Lichfield transmitter not Sutton Coldfield.
@@trevordance5181 My mistake. I was a youngster at the time and thought it was Sutton Coldfield. I remember tuning into some mysterious test transmission colour bars that had a fairly strong signal into Cheshire, down at the lower end of the UHF band to Granada. I thought, what is this? Eventually I come to realise it was ATV Wrekin. Gave me a much better signal than VHF.
I could not imagine American commercial television organized like it is in the UK. But in a way, having companies like CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox have to apply for the right to keep broadcasting might result in better quality. Right now the cable networks and Netflix are doing what the "legacy: networks should be doing here.
It's run differently now, unfortunately. The rules were relaxed in 1993 and larger companies were allowed to buy up smaller ones. In-vision announcers were replaced with just audio and each distinct ITV region became lost as the franchise system became national. ITN (Indépendant Télévision News) became ITV News and the UK lost a real fantastic quality commercial channel with 14 regional franchises.
Taken:31st December 1981
What is tune called and can you get a copy at all would like to know please
It's called Midlands Montage. And yes, you can get a copy from somewhere, since this is very much a clean copy of the track dubbed over video from a very old videotape!
must have been a thursday, Little Blue followed by Get up and Go !
31st December 1981 was a Thursday
thought so.....I'm good at working backwards with dates. I just have to remember what day my birthday was on in a certain year and jump forward.
Southern appeared to be in denial for as long as possible; the continuity set had the logo in black and white as if there were a funeral and the final programme - 'And It's Goodbye From Us' (on UA-cam somewhere) - was a thrown-together, self-pitying '... Screw You...' to the IBA, TVS and. saddest of all, the public.
They had an opportunity to bow out with dignity; an opportunity which they blew in a fashion that is as sad as it is awful.
Was really surprised that Southern was allowed to get away with that last programme, I know they were fined for going 45 minutes over the cut off time, but in my view, at the stroke of midnight the signal feed should have been cut so leaving them to stew in there own juices alone!
I don't blame Southern at all for their response to the IBA's decision.
@@stuartharris2165 I know at that time the IBA were the broadcaster who controlled the transmitters and the regional ITV company was simply a contractor providing a programme service, but I rather suspect given the engineering of the time since Southern were doing their own transmission (as every station did) then they probably could continue to just keep pushing their feed out to the transmitter sites which would be generally unstaffed and so could stay on air the extra 45 minutes as they did. Given that TVS were taking over the same building and the same transmission suite the following day there would have been no engineering requirement to change the transmission arrangements as the new franchisee took over so therefore no one on site to change anything around as nothing needed changing. The only thing I can see be doable remotely to cut Southern off at the stroke of midnight would be to cut their access to a network transmission but they weren't showing one; when it came to just pushing out a regional broadcast it would have likely taken IBA intervention at the transmitter sites to physically stop Southern broadcasting just to keep those same staff on hand to reconnect for TVS later. Far easier to just let Southern have their little tantrum of broadcasting 45 minutes into 1982 and fine them for unlicensed broadcasting after.
what was this music called
The piece of music that played during this video is called Midlands Montage.
This was one day before ATV lost its franchise to Central
Apart from the fact that Central was ATV with restrictions placed on them by the IBA.
ATV "lost" it's franchise to Central on December 28th 1980. I think you mean one day before the new franchise started under Central.
(Yes, I know they were technically the same company with new management).
ATV didn't lose the Midlands franchise, it simply had to restructure and rename itself to reflect the identity of the region. It also had have split programming for the West and East Midlands as ATV News had tended to just focus on Birmingham.
Funny that she did not mention that it was the last day of ATV. The Southern start up from 31/12/81 did not mention that either. I have not seen the Westward start up from New Year's Eve 1981.
Basically ATV hadn't lost the franchise, but were forced to rename themselves and Lord Grade had to sell his part of the company if I remember correctly
I was furious when Southern lost their franchise. It was a model ITV region. Most of the programmes had no internal commercial break and they produced classic children's shows like "How", Worzel Gummidge", "Enid Blyton's Famous Five" and "Runaround" . They also produced "Out of Town" with Jack Hargreaves, and had a couple of Glynde Bourne operas every season as well as broadcasting the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra concerts.
Southern was a fantastic ITV regional channel as is sorely missed.
@@Candolad Nah. They spat their dummies out when they lost their franchise by sheer bloody-mindedness and complacency because they didn't want to change anything in a world that was changing. TVS was far, far better.
@@GryphLane Southern never really got out of the 1950s. Their application amounted to just 16 pages. The 1980 franchise round was fair, unlike the farce in 1991.
@@Candolad They produced Houseparty too. A load of middleclass, probably Tory women of a certain age, talking interminable twaddle over coffee, cake and knitting patterns. It was like something out of the 1940's or 1950's. Absolute tosh.
+bbctim123'schannel (fuck me that's a hard code name to remember!!) have you put some sort of block on the "late 70's atv adverts" upload! Because i can't reply to robin carmodys comment i can only report it as spam on the menu (i am doing this from an iphone!) on everything else on yt i can reply to people's comments but not this explain??!!!!