I have been following your reviews for some time now paying particular interest to your descriptions of NET liquids. I have two bottle of Black Note coming my way by mid-week and I am looking forward to it. Having been a pipe smoker in the past, the prospect of the Cavendish taste and aroma is enticing. Thank you for your views/descriptions.
Thx Nathan as always for ur great review but i have a question? I bought a big bottle of 50PG/50VG are ready mixed with 12 nicotine Cuz i use to vape 12 nicotine, how much should i add from the concentrate (Black Cavendish) to make 60ml bottle?
Thanks Mohammed. The way i would mix it (milder version) 2.5ml of NET concentrate 28.7ml of VG & 28.7ml of PG. If you want it bolder add another 1ml of concentrate (total 3.5ml of NET same ml's of VG & PG) so you would have a touch over or under 60ml on any of the above ratios. EDIT if you have the PG & VG mixed already to 50/50 with nicotine (as I just noticed you wrote) just add 57.4 of your VG/PG mix to 2.6mlml of the tobacco concentrate or for the bolder version 56.4ml of your VG/PG mix to 3.6ml of the tobacco concentrate
Those NET’s reviews are Marvellous treat Nathan. As I can’t get 72mg NIC but can get Any base ratio VG/PG with up to 18mg NIC so I can’t follow the exact chart and To make sure I got that right; To reach Juice Cabin/Black Note kind of mild boldness This should be add to ready made VG/PG at 5% ratio? Say 10ml of this added to 190ml of base that includes the NIC already? I won’t reach the 9mg point if I mix it with 9mg (12mg would be to high) but if it’s 5%-7% to the the mild boldness I’m after then it won’t lower the NIC too much. It will stay above 8mg which is OK for me.
Thanks Isac. To be honest I follow the mixing chart I left below with 72mg nicotine in mind. I would rather leave any other method to the DIY experts among us including yourself😊 it will be beneficial for all if you can leave your final method of mixing without the 72mg element for all those who cannot add 72mg nicotine. That would be very useful info.
Okey then. If opportunity to get this will occur I may find out,but I’ve stocked and keep stock enough and more for a long time peace of mind. Besides I’m considering now and again to make my own from ground zero, as it’s very interesting to me, As it stand import of extracts are not considered e liquid as they are Tobacco extracts,not ready made as final consumer product by import definition. It may turn more of hassle then to fully DIY,because of official regulations.
Hi Nathan iv also just ordered this the black cavendish and also the Latakia grand reserve from mr mark at NV, I’m really looking forward to trying this as Iv never tried a cavendish before… is it anything like a Virginia in anyway? It’s should be here in the morning as the service from mark is amazingly fast… thanks for the great review Nathan 👍
Also Nathan I’m lucky I get to try the black cavendish on the spica pro as well… how lucky we are Nathan to have such amazing NET liquids here in the uk and amazing RTA to vape them on… spica pro is one of the very best of all time
@NorthWest. I love your enthusiasm in trying new NET’s. Welcome to wonderful world of tobacco blends in vape form that we are indeed very lucky to have such a variety, and the biggest benefit of all is the fact that we don’t jeopardise our health as smoking the same tobacco blends unfortunately does.
Well iv been following your channel for a very very long time Nathan so I blame you for my obsession with NET liquids and RTA’S 😂 I always go for net liquids from your recommendations.. I have to say la tabaccheria are on another level when it comes to liquids… the Virginia is so amazing I love it.. can’t wait to try many more. Nathan is there any cigar liquids that are strong like Latakia or Kentucky? Are all cigar liquids the same sort of? The only cigar liquid Iv ever tried was the Caribbean cream from Jc.. are they all like that ?
@@-northwest-6636 thanks. The Caribbean cream is not really a cigar flavour profile as it is rather creamy. The Captain by Juice Cabin or the Tennessee fire cured is more like a cigar. La tabaccheria Italian cigar is very good. Also the new extra dry cigar is apparently very good although I did not try it yet.
Nice review as always. Thanks! Did you or anyone else here tried their 4Pod line of NETs - claiming to be more friendly to stock coils & Pods while keeping the same flavors? Thanks & Regards
Thanks Yasser do you mean the selective purification 4pod line 10mil concentrates from La Tabaccheria designed for pods & stock coil tanks that will not gunk up coils. Yes I received an email explaining the whole procedure looks very interesting.
I have tried the 4Pod line and I may confirm that it is indeed more friendly with stock coils keeping the same NET flavor.But you would not expect for a stock coil to last forever anyway. If you wil follow manufacturers recommendation for 10% dilution you would expect max 2-3 days lasting stock coils for a very good aroma. Not more. If you are an aroma chaser like me, you should use RTA’s. Contrary, if you want a milder and relaxing vape you may use 4Pod line with success. And if you don’t care too much to original tobacco matrix aroma, I would recommend to your the Extreme White line which will assure you at least 1 week stock coil vaping
The duration of a stock coil is inverse proportional with the aroma. This is because the NET’s molecules which carry and give the aroma are the same ones which gunk your coil. La Tabaccheria innovation with 4Pod line and Extreme white line was indeed fabulous though you should assume that you will never get the same flavor from an pure extract line compare to an extreme white one. This is for above mentioned reason. Hope it was useful
Agreed. Good info. Thanks. However, turns out to be irrelevant in my case after all. I contacted their customer support and they said they can't ship to Canada. It was a good chat and discussion though.
Hi, I'm following you and really appreciate your videos. Now I want to try a NET from La Tabaccheria, but am not so happy to share my ID with them. Have you done that too. In these times, you want to protect such information a little for yourself. Do you know why they need this?
@last0084. I personally never ordered from La Tabaccheria I received the NET’s from one of the subscribers. It is Normal Practic when it come to vaping to ask for ID to make sure you are at legal age. You have nothing to worry about they are a respectable Italian company who thousands order daily from them and I am sure they keep all information under strict confidentiality.
Please let my add a comment related to dilution. 10 to 15% as you mentioned above is quite general and a bit inaccurate. Could be too much in many cases. Please see below the manufacturer recommended percentages detailed: “ALL DAY” Flavouring Table -Tobacco Extracts Line / Barrique Blends / Elite Line / Hell’s Mixtures Concentrates / Special Blend Starter Point (base dilution) Virginia 7%, Burley 7%, Oriental 6%, Kentucky 5%, Latakia 3-5%, Perique 5%, Black Cavendish 6%. American Blend 7%, English Mixture 5%, Balkan Mixture 5%, La Tabaccheria N.1 e N.2 Mixture 6%. Bezuki 6%, Piloto Cubano 6%, Mata Fina 6%, Maryland 7%, Kentucky USA 5%, Basma 5%. Baffometto 6%, N.759 Mixture 6%, Special Blend 6%. “TASTING” Flavouring Table -Tobacco Extracts Line / Barrique Blends / Elite Line / Hell’s Mixtures Concentrates / Special Blend Starter Point - Max Virginia 10-15%, Burley 10-15%, Oriental 10-12%, Kentucky 10%, Latakia 8-10%, Perique 10%, Black Cavendish 10-12%. American Blend 10-15%, English Mixture 10%, Balkan Mixture 10%, La Tabaccheria N.1 e N.2 Mixture 10-12%. Bezuki 10-12%, Piloto Cubano 10-12%, Mata Fina 10-12%, Maryland 10-15%, Kentucky USA 10%, Basma 10%. Baffometto 10-12%, N.759 Mixture 10-12%, Special Blend 10-15%.
Thank you Andrei for your detailed mixing chart it is very useful to all, although I enjoy the NET's the way I mixed it & it is perfect for me but i am sure many would benefit from your chart. Again thank you for sending me the NET's they are amazing!!
i am looking forward the review for the BEZUKI from la tabaccheria , i think bezuki , mata fina and black cavendish are the best for all day vape , for me personally all the la tabaccheria products are all day vape even latakia!!!!
Your comment on the steeping has not shown in the comments section I assume because you left a link to La Tabaccheria. You are right to an extend as quite a few NET’s by La Tabaccheria do not need steeping as I mentioned that in my first NET’s that I reviewed from La Tabaccheria. But the Black Cavendish Does need steeping as I copied & pasted the the steeping instructions from La Tabaccheria page on the Black Cavendish. I can tell you that steeping does make a difference in flavours they are deeper and tastier that is why I left mine for longer then 4-5 days they recommended
@@netvaper Nathan only the macerated line need 36hours , i didn't find anything in the site about maturation, i assume maybe it makes difference to you because your ratio is 70VG and the VG need some time....if you try the ratio 50pg 40vg and 10% double distilled water and you leave it one night the liquid will be ready the next morning with all the flavours becides the encrustations on the coil will be much more less... anyway the point i think is that you doing all this with a lot of love and this is real , thank you so much!
@Dreams True I assume you mean fish Caviar well it is not in my flavour preference at all, in fact just thinking about it put me off 😊 but as I always say everyone is different. Enjoy if you find it.
I don't know why but my comments here have been deleted 5 times now. I was trying to recommend a mixing calculator to you but youtube doesn't seem to approve 🤔
Sorry to hear that Bernard it is not the first time that interesting comments do not show I only can read them as a bounce back email from UA-cam. I have a simple solution that might work if you email it to me and I would leave it in the description for all to read.
Well Bernard I copied & pasted your comment that I hope is what you mentioned that did not show. Comment from Bernard as follows. Have you tried using an online mixing calculator? You just type in the amount you want to make, the nicotine amount you want in it exactly and the VG and PG ratio you prefer. Then you enter what nicotine you're using, 72mg in your case and it spits out an exact recipe in both ml and grams. Search for, vampirevape mixing calculator, I can't add any links unfortunately 👍I use this to experiment with 10ml bottles, I make different concetrate strengths and different nicotine strengths, I try the recommended amount of aroma, usually 10%, then I try 13, 15 or even 20% etc. It makes it very simple to get it exactly right every time.
@@netvaper Yes that's the comment! Strange they removed it as it had no links to anything 😕 Hope you find the calculator useful, I noticd that many people don't know about them. It really makes mixing extremely easy and accurate. I bought a small scale(0.00 accuracy) for 15 euro and I use grams because I read that is the most accurate way of mixing used in laboratories. Mixed around 25 different bottles in different nicotine and aroma strengths in the 2 weeks I've used concetrates. It's easier then changing coils and cotton honestly and I change cotton 2 times a day at least, much more when testing 😂
@@hansformat yes and your comment has made my day😊 I was actually very moved by your comment but for some reason it didn’t show in the comments section, I read it when UA-cam have send me an email notification of your comment. So I replied to you on another comment you posted a few weeks ago, I wonder if you read it. Thank you again hansformat for such a lovely comment I was very moved by your kind words.
Hello. Thx for the video. This is one of my favorite NETs. Perfect on the spica, very good atomizer choice for this one.
@The Attorney I love this one I am constantly vaping it, very nice tobacco flavours and the Spice Pro brings out those delicate notes brilliantly
I have been following your reviews for some time now paying particular interest to your descriptions of NET liquids. I have two bottle of Black Note coming my way by mid-week and I am looking forward to it. Having been a pipe smoker in the past, the prospect of the Cavendish taste and aroma is enticing. Thank you for your views/descriptions.
Thank you Manav enjoy the Black Note
how did it go? did you enjoy them??
Black Cavendish was my first NET ever. Brought me to the game. Thanks for your thoughts.
Thanks Peter yes it is very good
Thx Nathan as always for ur great review but i have a question? I bought a big bottle of 50PG/50VG are ready mixed with 12 nicotine Cuz i use to vape 12 nicotine, how much should i add from the concentrate (Black Cavendish) to make 60ml bottle?
Thanks Mohammed. The way i would mix it (milder version) 2.5ml of NET concentrate 28.7ml of VG & 28.7ml of PG. If you want it bolder add another 1ml of concentrate (total 3.5ml of NET same ml's of VG & PG) so you would have a touch over or under 60ml on any of the above ratios. EDIT if you have the PG & VG mixed already to 50/50 with nicotine (as I just noticed you wrote) just add 57.4 of your VG/PG mix to 2.6mlml of the tobacco concentrate or for the bolder version 56.4ml of your VG/PG mix to 3.6ml of the tobacco concentrate
@@netvaper thank u sooooo much 💖
Those NET’s reviews are Marvellous treat Nathan.
As I can’t get 72mg NIC but can get
Any base ratio VG/PG with up to 18mg NIC so I can’t follow the exact chart and
To make sure I got that right;
To reach Juice Cabin/Black Note kind of mild boldness This should be add to ready made VG/PG at 5% ratio?
Say 10ml of this added to 190ml of base that includes the NIC already?
I won’t reach the 9mg point if I mix it with 9mg (12mg would be to high) but if it’s
5%-7% to the the mild boldness I’m after then it won’t lower the NIC too much.
It will stay above 8mg which is OK for me.
Thanks Isac. To be honest I follow the mixing chart I left below with 72mg nicotine in mind. I would rather leave any other method to the DIY experts among us including yourself😊 it will be beneficial for all if you can leave your final method of mixing without the 72mg element for all those who cannot add 72mg nicotine. That would be very useful info.
Okey then.
If opportunity to get this will occur I may find out,but I’ve stocked and keep stock enough and more for a long time peace of mind.
Besides I’m considering now and again to make my own from ground zero,
as it’s very interesting to me,
As it stand import of extracts are not considered e liquid as they are Tobacco extracts,not ready made as final consumer product by import definition.
It may turn more of hassle then to fully DIY,because of official regulations.
To reach JC/BN boldness would be enough 3% for dark ones (e.g. Kentucky, Latakia) and 5% for blondes (e.g. Virginia, Black Cavendish,, Perique, )
@@andreivrublevschi5524
That’s exactly what I wanted to confirm.
Your input is very useful and much appreciated.
Thanks and pleasant day to you.
It's really not hard to get 72mg nicotine in the UK. It seems you already use a website that sells it ;)
Hi Nathan iv also just ordered this the black cavendish and also the Latakia grand reserve from mr mark at NV, I’m really looking forward to trying this as Iv never tried a cavendish before… is it anything like a Virginia in anyway? It’s should be here in the morning as the service from mark is amazingly fast… thanks for the great review Nathan 👍
Also Nathan I’m lucky I get to try the black cavendish on the spica pro as well… how lucky we are Nathan to have such amazing NET liquids here in the uk and amazing RTA to vape them on… spica pro is one of the very best of all time
@NorthWest. I love your enthusiasm in trying new NET’s. Welcome to wonderful world of tobacco blends in vape form that we are indeed very lucky to have such a variety, and the biggest benefit of all is the fact that we don’t jeopardise our health as smoking the same tobacco blends unfortunately does.
Well iv been following your channel for a very very long time Nathan so I blame you for my obsession with NET liquids and RTA’S 😂 I always go for net liquids from your recommendations.. I have to say la tabaccheria are on another level when it comes to liquids… the Virginia is so amazing I love it.. can’t wait to try many more.
Nathan is there any cigar liquids that are strong like Latakia or Kentucky? Are all cigar liquids the same sort of? The only cigar liquid Iv ever tried was the Caribbean cream from Jc.. are they all like that ?
@@-northwest-6636 thanks. The Caribbean cream is not really a cigar flavour profile as it is rather creamy. The Captain by Juice Cabin or the Tennessee fire cured is more like a cigar. La tabaccheria Italian cigar is very good. Also the new extra dry cigar is apparently very good although I did not try it yet.
Nice review as always. Thanks!
Did you or anyone else here tried their 4Pod line of NETs - claiming to be more friendly to stock coils & Pods while keeping the same flavors?
Thanks & Regards
Thanks Yasser do you mean the selective purification 4pod line 10mil concentrates from La Tabaccheria designed for pods & stock coil tanks that will not gunk up coils. Yes I received an email explaining the whole procedure looks very interesting.
@@netvaper Yes - that is the one. Anyone tried any of them yet?
I have tried the 4Pod line and I may confirm that it is indeed more friendly with stock coils keeping the same NET flavor.But you would not expect for a stock coil to last forever anyway. If you wil follow manufacturers recommendation for 10% dilution you would expect max 2-3 days lasting stock coils for a very good aroma. Not more. If you are an aroma chaser like me, you should use RTA’s. Contrary, if you want a milder and relaxing vape you may use 4Pod line with success. And if you don’t care too much to original tobacco matrix aroma, I would recommend to your the Extreme White line which will assure you at least 1 week stock coil vaping
The duration of a stock coil is inverse proportional with the aroma. This is because the NET’s molecules which carry and give the aroma are the same ones which gunk your coil. La Tabaccheria innovation with 4Pod line and Extreme white line was indeed fabulous though you should assume that you will never get the same flavor from an pure extract line compare to an extreme white one. This is for above mentioned reason. Hope it was useful
Agreed. Good info. Thanks.
However, turns out to be irrelevant in my case after all. I contacted their customer support and they said they can't ship to Canada.
It was a good chat and discussion though.
Hi Nethan. What other tank is good for this tobacco instead of Spica?
There are a few. High end or budget
@@netvaper both if possible. 🙏
@@huxxam high end. Dvarw. 4.51. ByKa SE or V9. Budget. Steam Crave Classic & Alberich V2. Siren V4 is excellent but holds less then 2ml
Hi, I'm following you and really appreciate your videos. Now I want to try a NET from La Tabaccheria, but am not so happy to share my ID with them. Have you done that too. In these times, you want to protect such information a little for yourself. Do you know why they need this?
@last0084. I personally never ordered from La Tabaccheria I received the NET’s from one of the subscribers. It is Normal Practic when it come to vaping to ask for ID to make sure you are at legal age. You have nothing to worry about they are a respectable Italian company who thousands order daily from them and I am sure they keep all information under strict confidentiality.
Please let my add a comment related to dilution. 10 to 15% as you mentioned above is quite general and a bit inaccurate. Could be too much in many cases. Please see below the manufacturer recommended percentages detailed:
“ALL DAY” Flavouring Table -Tobacco Extracts Line / Barrique Blends / Elite Line / Hell’s Mixtures Concentrates / Special Blend
Starter Point (base dilution)
Virginia 7%, Burley 7%, Oriental 6%, Kentucky 5%, Latakia 3-5%, Perique 5%, Black Cavendish 6%.
American Blend 7%, English Mixture 5%, Balkan Mixture 5%, La Tabaccheria N.1 e N.2 Mixture 6%.
Bezuki 6%, Piloto Cubano 6%, Mata Fina 6%, Maryland 7%, Kentucky USA 5%, Basma 5%.
Baffometto 6%, N.759 Mixture 6%, Special Blend 6%.
“TASTING” Flavouring Table -Tobacco Extracts Line / Barrique Blends / Elite Line / Hell’s Mixtures Concentrates / Special Blend
Starter Point - Max
Virginia 10-15%, Burley 10-15%, Oriental 10-12%, Kentucky 10%, Latakia 8-10%, Perique 10%, Black Cavendish 10-12%.
American Blend 10-15%, English Mixture 10%, Balkan Mixture 10%, La Tabaccheria N.1 e N.2 Mixture 10-12%.
Bezuki 10-12%, Piloto Cubano 10-12%, Mata Fina 10-12%, Maryland 10-15%, Kentucky USA 10%, Basma 10%.
Baffometto 10-12%, N.759 Mixture 10-12%, Special Blend 10-15%.
Thank you Andrei for your detailed mixing chart it is very useful to all, although I enjoy the NET's the way I mixed it & it is perfect for me but i am sure many would benefit from your chart. Again thank you for sending me the NET's they are amazing!!
Where can I get this from? Is this a public recipe or where can I get the concentrate from? Any help would be greatly appreciated...
i am looking forward the review for the BEZUKI from la tabaccheria , i think bezuki , mata fina and black cavendish are the best for all day vape , for me personally all the la tabaccheria products are all day vape even latakia!!!!
Yes I know Pascalis that a lot of tobacco vapers including you it seems, do like even the bolder & Smokey tobaccos as an all day vape. Enjoy
Your comment on the steeping has not shown in the comments section I assume because you left a link to La Tabaccheria. You are right to an extend as quite a few NET’s by La Tabaccheria do not need steeping as I mentioned that in my first NET’s that I reviewed from La Tabaccheria. But the Black Cavendish Does need steeping as I copied & pasted the the steeping instructions from La Tabaccheria page on the Black Cavendish. I can tell you that steeping does make a difference in flavours they are deeper and tastier that is why I left mine for longer then 4-5 days they recommended
@@netvaper Nathan only the macerated line need 36hours , i didn't find anything in the site about maturation, i assume maybe it makes difference to you because your ratio is 70VG and the VG need some time....if you try the ratio 50pg 40vg and 10% double distilled water and you leave it one night the liquid will be ready the next morning with all the flavours becides the encrustations on the coil will be much more less... anyway the point i think is that you doing all this with a lot of love and this is real , thank you so much!
Till date , any known ejuice out there actually taste like premium caviar ?
@Dreams True I assume you mean fish Caviar well it is not in my flavour preference at all, in fact just thinking about it put me off 😊 but as I always say everyone is different. Enjoy if you find it.
@@netvaper
You don't enjoy eating caviar ?
I don't imagine a caviar flavour vape juice would taste nice or sell well lol.
I don't know why but my comments here have been deleted 5 times now. I was trying to recommend a mixing calculator to you but youtube doesn't seem to approve 🤔
Sorry to hear that Bernard it is not the first time that interesting comments do not show I only can read them as a bounce back email from UA-cam. I have a simple solution that might work if you email it to me and I would leave it in the description for all to read.
Well Bernard I copied & pasted your comment that I hope is what you mentioned that did not show.
Comment from Bernard as follows.
Have you tried using an online mixing calculator? You just type in the amount you want to make, the nicotine amount you want in it exactly and the VG and PG ratio you prefer. Then you enter what nicotine you're using, 72mg in your case and it spits out an exact recipe in both ml and grams. Search for, vampirevape mixing calculator, I can't add any links unfortunately 👍I use this to experiment with 10ml bottles, I make different concetrate strengths and different nicotine strengths, I try the recommended amount of aroma, usually 10%, then I try 13, 15 or even 20% etc. It makes it very simple to get it exactly right every time.
I had a comment vanish from your reflection video earlier this week. Then i reposted it snd that one vanished as well. Something is really wierd.
@@netvaper Yes that's the comment! Strange they removed it as it had no links to anything 😕 Hope you find the calculator useful, I noticd that many people don't know about them. It really makes mixing extremely easy and accurate. I bought a small scale(0.00 accuracy) for 15 euro and I use grams because I read that is the most accurate way of mixing used in laboratories. Mixed around 25 different bottles in different nicotine and aroma strengths in the 2 weeks I've used concetrates. It's easier then changing coils and cotton honestly and I change cotton 2 times a day at least, much more when testing 😂
@@hansformat yes and your comment has made my day😊 I was actually very moved by your comment but for some reason it didn’t show in the comments section, I read it when UA-cam have send me an email notification of your comment. So I replied to you on another comment you posted a few weeks ago, I wonder if you read it. Thank you again hansformat for such a lovely comment I was very moved by your kind words.