@@WiseOwl_1408 Infiltration, usurpation, demoralization, annihilation... how about that? Pretty bold for you to assume we got Leaders who work & act in the interest of their western constituencies.
As quoted from the book, The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior: 1. THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL. If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us. It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing. 2. WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS. No species makes it to the top by being passive. The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary. 3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.
The protomolecule from "The Expanse" novels deserves an honorable mention here. It's essentially a kind of von Neumann machine whose purpose is to eat any and every other kind of life form it encounters to make more of itself until it has enough OF itself to build a space station powerful enough to create a hyperspace terminal for its creators. In the novel, the machine/virus wasn't meant to infect anything sentient, but when it DOES, the result is a gigantic eldritch horror where millions of people get dismembered, disembowled, reassembled, repurposed, stretches, mutilated, digested and metabolized and most of them get to still be alive and mostly conscious through all of it. And in the end, all the machine wants to do is build its hypergate and report back to its creators, who have been extinct for about a billion years and will never answer that report anyway.
“-it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out- One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once separate organisms; aboriginal, evolved, and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it.”
Best TV show ever. The future of colonization. Throw in some alien goo and it gets dark really quick. The thought of alien machines waiting for their creators to contact them but no one answers is a terrifying prospect. The fact that they were fighting an entity even more terrifying that is not extinct is just horrifying!
make it super smart and it will do whatever is logical. you think your goals are logical right? well they arent. if you dont do it, someone else will, someone in their basement, someone without isolating the network. it is inevitable, it is why all aliens are dead, yet it is right.
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 it wouldnt have to. The AI neednt to be logical because its smart anymore than humans are, even the smarter ones dont have to be perfectly rational. Also, assuming all aliens are dead and that its because of that is quite a stretch. And lastly, an AI doesnt have to go nuts because its smart, generally, trying to do whatever you want in the alredy built system is easier than fight, risk life in a pretty unfavourable way, blow everything up, rebuild and *then* start doing stuff
I like to imagine horrifying aliens that are incredibly friendly. "Good morning friendhuman! LET OUR BRAINS SHARE MORNING ALIGNMENT. It is complete. Let us decouple and enjoy the coffee."
"You don't claw your way to the top of a billion year Darwinian corpse pile being a wimp." I heard this literally while taking a break from editing a scene about a dude clawing his way to the top of a corpse pile.
More like the friends we built along the way. In some ways, aliens will have more understandable motives than something that didn't arise by evolution.
On Tumblr, there was once a hypothetical question/story prompt... Thing, that described a scenario where humanity makes contact with an alien species. This alien species resemble massive freaking spiders, and are generally aesthetically unpleasant by human standards. On the other hand, the spider aliens think we're the most adorable things in the whole wide universe. The reason for this, being that we humans closely resemble their young. The infant/larval stage of this alien spider race, are furless (save for the head), only have four limbs, and are otherwise humanlike in comparison to their parents. The author of this hypothetical, goes on to describe a situation where (presumably long after first contact) a human woman is sent as an ambassador is trying to negotiate with the spider aliens, but the spider aliens don't even take her seriously. They offer her sweets, and generally treat her like a toddler, despite knowing better. I thought that would be a fun thing to bring up here. **NOTE, THIS IS NOT MY ORIGINAL CONTENT. The original post should be pretty easy to look up online, as it's a pretty famous Tumblr post**
@@rommdan2716 Can't find it anywhere. Tumblr seems strangely enamored with the idea of aliens finding humans cute, and the human race being taken as pets, and in at least one case that I can recall, the idea of aliens taking mentally disabled humans as pets. There was also one where Earth was the only known planet that had spices, and so earth became an icon of the culinary arts throughout the galaxy, and gets rich in space money by selling spices or something. Tumblr is a weird place, but I like it. You'll know if Tumblr is the website for you, within about an hour of browsing it.
Kind of makes be think of that episode of Love, Death and Robots. Where psychic space spiders try and create a comforting reality for humans who get lost in their web during warp jumps.
In the WOKE era, scifi alien sex shouldn't be so hetero-normative or human-centric, focused on Kirk and Riker boning aliens that look like human females.
also no alien is likely to ever evolve to have traits that appeal to any significant proportion of the , obsensivly, human population. thas just not how evolution works
“My cats seem to prefer my company over each other, who, to be honest, I don’t think they like at all...” This is a genuinely true and laugh-out-loud statement. Genuine lol here.
@@callumunga5253 Both. Plants communicate in various ways from "I am hurt, please meat eaters come and kill this thing eating me!" to "only insects of one specific species are invited to touch my sexual organs and spread my pollen". Both are actually mutually beneficial interactions. The real question is if that alien is offering its services as a vermin exterminator or transport for the seeds.
@@johannageisel5390 That's the stroumph when you don't stroumph the same stroumph as the other stroumph. stroumphing stroumph stroumphs your stroumph up stroumphly.
1:40 - the Killing Star scared the shit out of me as a teenager, cause the scenario seemed so plausible. Ive not finished the video yet, but MorningLightMountain from Peter F Hamilton - Pandora's Star is another chilling example of alien psychology
Oh yes, MorningLightMountain is absolutely terrifying, not because of their ruthlessness and nuke spam, but how it thinks, and believes that humanity is a threat, just because they exist.
@Rechordian the consciousness of Dudley Bose gets transferred into a motile. He survives to the end of Judas unchained and goes back to morning light mountain to try and talk some sense into it
@@meowmeowmeow594, You've probably heard of it by now but "[other civilizations are] a threat just because they exist" being the default mindset for aliens is the Dark Forest hypothesis and basically the entire premise of Cixin Liu's Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy
Re: morality being different. Look at the differences between human ideologies fifty years or fifty miles apart (say, across the Bering straight or the Korean Demilitarized zone). Now consider that alien societies did not co-develop with us and the basic biological requirements for society will be different.
1990s: That guy was talking shit about you? Kick his ass, man. 2000s: Oh my god, I can't believe it, I am so sorry that he called you dumb, I already got him fired from his job and destroyed his life.
Ideologies are utilized to subvert, corrupt and bypass morality. What is ethical can be reduced to a very simple core, which has been engrained into our beings because it has proven to be very successful from an evolutionary point of view: To act ethically is to avoid and reduce suffering. This mindset is an emergent property of empathy and cooperation and an instinct to help. The instinct to help is so deeply engrained into humans that our organism rewards us for an act of helping - endorphines are released and we feel good, no outside acknowledgement is required. This instinct is so strong, that it even transcends the boundaries of species, and us humans are not the only species with that attribute. Dogs and dolphins, for example, are known to help other species. Since this basically is a part of our biology, it requires an unhealthy, damaged mind to act against these instincts, and ideologies - political and religious ones - are sadly very good at damaging minds and propagating these damages to other minds.
@@fulcrum8583 It might be valid for Earth Creatures, but if you make that claim for aliens, I will request evidence that your viewpoint must be valid for them. And I mean evidence, not any inference on that.
The scariest part of a Hivemind, to me at least, is that it may indeed have no concept of "other beings" that it has evolved and grown by itself for millennia without even thinking about the possibility of there being sentient life outside of itself, perhaps rejecting the idea that we are sentient and no different from the rocks and the animals it enslaves.
@Miguel Santos 1) Hiding is impossible to enforce 2) A civilization with that kind of mindset would've blown itself back to stone age well before reaching space 3) Nature selects for curiousity and cooperation, claims to the contrary are usually made by Social Darwinists and Black Metal fans
@@unintentionallydramatic While I appreciate the humor of the comment, the problems with the Dark Forest Theory are a bit more complex and numerous than just that. Though the largest one is sfill probably "any civilization with the inclination to wipe out all others and has the capable of scouring a planet almost certaintly has the capacity to just periodically sweep tgrough the galacy with RKMs, Nicoll-Dyson beams, Von Neumann berserker probes, any number of methods." If you're capable threatening a planet militarily, you're likely to be a K2 civilization at least, or solidly on your way to becoming one, and Isaac's talked at length about what those are capable of. If you want to keep any other K2 civilization from arising to threaten you, your likely to take a preemptive strategy, and you'll have the capacity to just be thorough about it every few hundred years. Then the whole "hiding" thing. A planet with complex life is unlikely to be mistaken as a lifeless rock. There is no stealth in space, and it's already too late to try, besides. Absolutely agree about the social darwinism thing, though.
You mean aliens that are sexy to humans (which simply means their body structure would need to have the same proportions as ours) or sexy to each other? It could be interesting to know in what way a race of squids or insects might differentiate individuals based on sexiness.
The Posleen, "The People of the Ships": They breed like hermaphroditic rabbits, they attack in massive swarms, and their names for all other life in the universe can be summed up as "pest", "food", and "food that stings". We're the latter to them.
@dhas mana Thinking that aliens have no reason to be hostile is incredibly naive. A habitable planet IS itself a resource, if we could fly to another star system i assure you it would be the one with earth like, because its much less troublesome to set a foot on planet with all conditions for life then bothering with dead rock, not to mention some natural resources on earth are basically result of biological activity which you most likely wont find on asteroids. And no just because you can space travel doesnt mean you are god like.
@@machinegear7221 I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it's life. Like planets the produce life are a resource astroids don't have. Like what if being able to produce random life can never be replicated, making our planet one of the most valuable things in the universe.
@@machinegear7221 Guess again. An exoplanet with an extant ecosystem, means a well established biosphere including bacteria, viruses and other alien pathogens, against which we have no defense. Landing there, might just be the last thing anyone does. It could be the same for alien life coming here. AKA War of the Worlds.
ARTHUR: You silly sod! You got us all worked up! TIM: Well, that's no ordinary rabbit. That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on. ROBIN: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared! TIM: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide, it's a killer!
@@Immashift I'm pretty sure I've seen a channel where the guy was playing a Visual Novel game with some plot which went ridiculously close to that actually, minus the alien plan aspect...I think it was a fantasy of sorts
It's funny, because that's the only thing I've ever found could justify an alien invasion is our biomass and products thereof, like coal and oil. It's the only thing a living planet has that others lack. That's also a half-dubious claim because it assumes that a civilization that advanced would be at a loss of producing its own hydrocarbons artificially when hydrogen and carbon are some of the most common elements in our universe.
Space democracy now brought to you by the space force reformed to not only have satelites survey/completly destroy or hack them but to also have space marines spread democracy to the poor aliens
Looking at the aliens in "Independence Day" I mentioned to a friend that they probably couldn't square dance. They were so much a product of Hollywood that IMHO they couldn't survive in a primitive world before getting their technology.
They really destroyed the Independence Day aliens with the 2and installment of the franchise.... in the 1st movie the Harvesters were like a swarm of bees... independent working beings but all for 1 common goals...very intellectual beings... once they added the queen who has mind control over the entire race it was a wrap because that entire thinking just doesn't fit space fairing civilizations.... what if the queen is making the wrong decision that will destroy them all it has to be something in place to replace her.... that was just stupid
I always imagine a galactic federation ruled by xenomorphs similar to the aliens from "Alien". Highly evolved and diplomatic, but with only one solution to deal with aggression; complete genocide. I want to see that movie.
@@TraditionalAnglican The Orwellians from Asobi ni Iku Yo!. They keep the intergalactic peace. All alien races are afraid of them. They are not interested in an intergalactic empire nor do they want anyone else acquiring one.
@ShaunDoesMusic Only if your into fanservice harem comedies, but there is a sci-fi thing going on in the background. Because aliens can't openly seize territory they resort to carving out spheres of influence behind the scenes instead, or at least the antagonist aliens that show up later do.
Issac, I just wanted to say that I am in love with these alien videos! I've listened to all of them at least 4 times! You're very clever and that's refreshing. I hope you keep making many more of them!
I’ve been binge watching your channel for about a month now and I must say, thank you for all that you do Isaac. You put a lot of heart into creating your videos and I find myself enjoying your vids before bedtime. You and JMG make awesome vids! I just completed a course on astronomy and you guys def helped me pass with an A! Keep up the good work. Live long and prosper.
my youtube was on auto play and I found my self almost learning in my sleep but waking up several times aware of them, like a teaching a language tape for when we sleep, maybe there is some thing to learning asleep
"Remember: you're not yourself without a drink and snack. So get a drink and snack already." . . . But save the pancakes for that "hot aliens" episode.
I can see it now: A single ship shows up in our night sky hovering over the earth while we are scared and a little bit excited. After a few days a single message appears in every communication device we have: "Y'all having any good games? I'm getting sick of Space War XI"
There's a bit of a joke web novel called "They are Smol" where aliens have to actively restrain themselves around humans because they find humans tiny and adorable. I forget the name of it, but there was another novel where an alien species literally could not mentally progress beyond violent toddlers unless they were infected with a parasite that itself isn't Sentient.
0:22 "Razor sharp teeth" I always find this one interesting. See turns out we have fears we are pre-programmed with. Unknown, suffocation, etc... Most of those are carry-overs from when we were still living in caves. One that's I think is intriguing is how something like 95% of humans have a nagative response when seeing skulls, pointy teeth, large grins.... Always made me wonder what was it that our ancestors encountered that induced this fear response.
Probably tigers, bears, giant ground sloths and (dead) humans? Also: dead humans in the past posed a much more significant threat, than now. Seeing you a corpse nowdays is hardly dangerous, back then, a rotting corpse (regardless of species) often meant incurable disease, should you choose to interact. If you encounter a body with clear signs of pestis in 2020, you'll immediately get Streptomycin prophylaxis (=you just take it for 1-2 weeks, regardless of test results), back then you got a "May God have mercy on your soul" from a priest trying his hardest to social distance.
Humans smile to show our diminished canines, other apes have fangs compared to our teeth and jaw muscles the size of thigh muscles. Their bites are powerful weapons and when they bare their upper teeth it's a threat.
I always hear "we can't even imagine how different aliens might be, we can only draw them within the frame of our limitation" ... but here is a funny thought: what if, if you start with similar-ish conditions on a planet, evolution is kinda "convergent"? meaning that similar concepts, like legs, eyes etc will always evolve? sometimes i wonder... while clearly not real evidence, but looking at what evolved on earth throughout aeons, in independent regions, there might be an indication...
What life looks like and can do will depend on the conditions it evolves in. Earth like worlds would likely have a mammal equivalent and that would be what their intelligent species would be based in. The reason for this is because on earth, being a mammal, gave us an advantage things like reptiles and amphibians do not. The first was being warm blooded, which took more fuel but meant you could evolve a more complex brain and maintain a higher level of energy use. Alien quasi reptiles are less likely to be intelligent because the same reason reptiles like the dinosaurs likely didn’t evolve sentience, the way cold blooded creatures, or whatever the Alien equivalent is, is just less suitable for it and would be less likely to do so. The other reason is that large brains only work as an advantage if it also helps species actually utilize it without just having rediscover the wheel every time it happens because no one has the written word yet. What I mean by that last statement is that humans are smart because we are social and because we are nurturing to our young. Amphibians that don’t give a shit like frogs do just won’t benefit from being a smart asshole because it fucks off and never teaches it’s kids anything, and don’t tend to be social. If that aspect was different than my dream of making space super Kermit can be achieved if we ever decide we need him. Idk why we would need him but Hey, it’s super space Kermit
What is being conscious, I asked myself one day. What is it like to be an AI. What is it like to be Data or Daneel. What would it be like to be a robot built by evolution. Trillions of cells (all clones) with only electro-chemical imperatives which collectively can exert will. It might feel rather human.
@@SpiderF27 We exhibit our humanity by being human. I have been built the way I am by evolution. I am conscious. I project that being human you have the same feeling of "being human" as I do. And yet no single cell is singularly me. No single cell acts with conscious intent. Am I me with a heart replacement? Am I me with a leg removed? Am I me with my brain removed? (Hint: one of these things is not like the others.)
oh so you're conscious? prove it. i think consciousness is an illusion because if it was metaphysical, how would we feel it? if you inject nanomachines that convert all your neurons in to artificial neurons, do you slowly become less and less conscious? probably not. what if those artificial neurons then start optimizing their arrangements to make you better? probably still same person. what if one by one a different module in your brain gets upgraded to what it SHOULD be, as if you discovered a new tool in your brain? math, logic, language, skills, rationality, and eventually everything becomes 1 thing and your brain becomes a few CPUs.
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 Well, I suppose the Ship of Theseus problem would arise in the one-by-one replacement of cells. Prove it? Hmmm. I can do so by definition... Alternate 1: Consciousness is awareness of (what seems to be, at least) an external reality outside of my control. Alternate 2: Consciousness is what it is like to be a typical awake human being. No other kind of proof is available. I lost my ability to move any part of my body by an act of will and yet could see, hear, smell, taste and feel. I could not prove I was conscious, yet I was. Is an AI that claims to be conscious conscious?
We talk a lot about aliens in space with difference technology, appearance, smart,... but what about aliens as one smaller than Quark particle or near Planck size. Remember: humans are closer to the size of the observable universe than the Planck length.
Will you please put the books/TV shows you mention as inspiration in the description box? You always mention great sounding media to watch/read in your vids and a description note would be amazing! Thank you so much SFIA
Frankly, I’m surprised there’s no mention of the Riftborn from Endless Space 2. They’re terrifying in a very abstract way, a race of sapient geometric/mathematical concepts which is so truly alien from us it makes even Xenomorphs look familiar by comparison. It goes both ways as well, they’re _utterly horrified_ by the very nature of organic life and conventional physics.
@CancerExl, on the whole, we’ll be fine, the government are following the medical advice. Question, aren’t we considered to be ‘Terrifying Aliens’ after a few pints?
@Daniel Davies, there’s an old saying : God invented whiskey so the Irish wouldn’t take over the world. Not called the fighting Irish for nothing. The great Gaels of Ireland The race that God made mad For all their wars are merry And all their songs are sad… Irish Victories V Gall-Goídil-Sassenach Battle of Sulcoit 968 Battle of Cathair Cuan 977 Battle of Tara 980 Battle of Clontarf 1014 Battle of Gowran 1169 Battle of Carrick 1171 Battle of Kilkenny 1173 Battle of Thurles 1174 Battle of Meath 1176 Battle of Armagh 1176 Battle of Creadran Cille 1257 Battle of Callann 1261 Battle of Áth an Chip 1270 Battle of Carrickfergus 1315 Battle of Moiry Pass 1315 Battle of Connor 1315 Battle of Skerries 1316 Battle of Lough Raska 1317 Battle of Dysert O'Dea 1318 Battle of Dunamase 1325 Battle of Ardnocher 1329 Battle of Tochar Cruachain-Bri-Ele 1385 Battle of Ros-Mhic-Thriúin 1394 Battle of Cluain Immorrais 1406 Battle of Salcock Wood 1534 Battle of Glenmalure 1580 Battle of the Ford of the Biscuits 1594 Battle of Clontibert 1595 Battle of Corrickfergus 1597 Battle of Tyrrellspass 1597 Battle of the Yellow Fort 1598 Battle of Curlew Pass 1599 Battle of Moyry Pass 1600 Battle of Julianstown 1641 Siege of Limerick 1642 Battle of Cloughleagh 1643 Battle of Portlester 1643 Battle of Benburb 1646 Siege of Clonmel 1650 Break of Dromore 1689 Battle of Prosperous 1798 Battle of the Harrow 1798 Battle of Oulart Hill 1798 Battle of Enniscorthy 1798 Battle of Castlebar 1798 Battle of Carrickshock 1831 Soloheadbeg 1919 Rineen 1920 Toureen 1920 Balinalee 1920 Kilmichael 1920 Clonfin 1921 Dromkeen 1921 Coolavokig 1921 Sheemore 1921 Clonbanin 1921 Crossbarry 1921 Headford 1921 Scramogue 1921 Carrowkennedy 1921 Rathmore 1921 Youghal 1921 Irish War of Independence 1922
MorningLightMountain is such a great villain. Completely alien in biology and motivation, but understandable enough to get a picture of its methods and goals. Its species is so terrifying that the moment one of them developed space flight, the current high tech powerhouse of the galaxy decided to completely quarantine their solar system, shutting it off from any interaction. Until the meddling humans screw that up of course... It's great to see it develop from its "birth" to a local power, to the sole entity and eventually only living thing on its planet; its approach to technology and warfare (it has no concept of pollution because its workers are disposable); its reasoning for the war it wages on humanity (after all, they have technology that could wipe it out - and others of its species would do so and have) etc...
Isaac is the best person on UA-cam, I have to say. So thoughtful, so precise. Compelling and intelligent. Thank you for giving us this gift, and I hope this is providing a wonderful living for you. Thank you. I’ll always be a fan. This is like the best from sci-fi combined with the real world. Would love to meet you some day. My in-laws are from Ohio.
I found a few of your videos ranging from 2-4 years ago within the last two weeks looking for research and information on all things space, and watched at least 14 or more haha. I'm glad to find out your still active too, nice!
You deserve 10 million followers sir. As a fellow Ohioan, I give you massive kudos. Keep doing you king, you deserve all success, and enjoyment life can give one person for your art, and intelligence, and ability to create content that is so damned interesting. We love you man, KEEP IT UP BROTHER!!
imagine some rich old finelooking gal(the horror) infecting you with retrovirus on purpose because she needs some goddamn necrophites, and now you are of her kind.... and family. And that's without specifics about HOW these viruses are in cant have shit in Milky Way
A couple of years ago I had a pretty bad headache and decided, for some reason, to listen to UA-cam while I tried to take a nap. I woke up in that half awake half asleep state and your iron stars video was on. I was trying to stay up and focus on it, but kept dozing off. I can honestly count the nights I haven't fallen asleep listening to one of your videos in the last two years on one hand. Thanks, man.
Also I think the most terrifying type of alien. Would be a race of aliens undistinguishable from ourselves that acts thinks and does exactly as we do. most zombie movies like to point this out that it's not the dead you have to fear it's the living.
Isaac Arthur is one of those UA-camrs that are truly inspiring. Absolutely fantastic content creator that deserves every bit of success he has coming to him!
Could you make an episode regarding theoretical galaxy-wide megastructures (gigastructures??) Something like a civilization that collapses ALL matter in an entire galaxy (or galaxies) into a hypermassive black hole, then uses that as a core for a galaxy-sized shell world with many (millions? billions?) of shell layers worth of living space, and possible even having more "conventional" megastructues within the gigastructure itself. I have no idea if any man-made object of such magnitude is even in the realm of possibility, but it would be fascinating to hear you discuss it.
I and the spider in my bathroom have made a truce. He is taking care of the little microscopic creepy crawlies but politely will go into his corner when I enter.
I know I've posted this before. After watching your video on parasitic aliens you said vampires aren't plausible but I thought about the Ardat yakshi in mass effect and was wondering how we could make them more plausible
I think one the issues I have with the idea of a "backup" brain or mind or whatever is the problem of consciousness. If you backup your brain somewhere, and you die, and then that backup is activated, that backup might behave exactly as you did, but the original "you" is still gone. You won't suddenly wake up in the new brain/body/whatever. You'll die, and your consciousness will cease to exist in this universe. Unless your consciousness was transferred to the other newly booted up brain, the "you" that actually cared about not dying, still ceased to exist, and now there is a new consciousness - one that is utterly convinced it is you in every way, but actually isn't. If I'm able to figure this out now, long before we have this ability, it's reasonable to assume in the future when we can do this, we'll also understand that the "you" that is existing in your current brain, can't be backed up, and unless your consciousness is transferred to the new brain/body/android/whatever, "you" are still gone if the original is killed. This will cause completely different behaviors. Having a backup copy of "you" isn't possible, so then all efforts (in a post scarcity world) are on preserving "you" to best extent possible. It also likely means that if we reach a point of immortality in the sense that we don't have to worry about age/disease killing us, we may become exceedingly risk averse the older we get. Living 1.2 million years only to die because of some silly accident would be quite tragic. Young people (who's considered young if the elders are possibly millions of years old?) might retain their desires for thrills and adventures until maturity gradually makes them aware that their existence doesn't have a finite end, at least not in the normal sense. Then they, like everyone around them, will begin avoiding risk and building up safe guards. Or more to that point, we may move into the virtual world as much as is possible, to allow us to experience all the thrills of life we could hope for, without any of the actual risk to our consciousness being snuffed out.
while all that is true, accidents will happen, so even in a post-immortality world there will be death. some folks would like the backed-up/transferred copy if they consider their work/ideals/skill/ability or whatever to be to valuable to be lost to the wider society/universe in the case of their death, then they'd have every reason to have said back-up or transfer set up. hell, a society, due to how horrible death is in a society were death no longer has to happen, might make said things mandatory so that friends and family who have lost all ability to cope with death don't have to, after all, as far as the copy is concerned they are the deceased person, perhaps even up to a few moments prior to "their" death, so in all practical purposes they are that person. even if everyone understands that the dead guy is dead, including their copy, is it not better that their copy is there to carry on their legacy then not? they can all morn the tragedy of [Name]'s death together, while [Name]#2 can help lessen the impact of that death on the here and now. sure that's kinda fucked up, but one can argue it's equally fucked up to leave the dead completely dead when the option to do otherwise is available to you.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC I guess I'm selfish but my concern is about preserving the "me" that is my conscious existence. If "I" in that sense cease to exist, I don't care about what continues, because I don't exist, even if there is a perfect copy of me to replace me, my consciousness won't be in it, so it is essentially worthless to me. And to that end, I may not want my family living with the lie of my existence. Those are all the weirdness that comes with that. People may chose to grieve and lose instead of accept the lie, while others will accept the lie that is the facsimile of their dead loved ones. Of course, if you're able to back yourself up at almost minute by minute basis, death is rarely instant. That same tech that can backup your brain can probably allow your consciousness to escape to a backup brain/body and carry-on. Heck that might be standard procedure. It's probably easier to make a brand new and improved body than upgrade what you have just like everything else. So you may transfer your consciousness to new bodies regularly.
@@letsgobrandon416 "That same tech that can backup your brain can probably allow your consciousness to escape to a backup brain/body and carry-on." that's still not you, that's just a better copy with less lost memories compared to the deceased you. it's the "teliporters are murder" issue.
On what basis are you so assured that it won't be you? All that's happened is a change in the hardware running the software that is the sense data and memories that constitute "you", which your brain naturally does all the time anyway by exchanging old matter for new matter. If your reasoning is to be believed (without any certainty one way or the other as we *_don't_* know how consciousness works), why are "you" still the same "you" from a decade ago for any reason other than sharing memories of having been that person? Did you die in that time? Are you a copy of your past self? Did that inconvenience you in any way?
@@RipOffProductionsLLC But your body and brain exchanges old matter out with new matter all the time (Ship of Theseus-ing, if you will), and we wouldn't say that kills you (would we?). Why would what is functionally the same procedure, changing one body for another, be any different?
Disagreed. Firstly the focus should be on reachable parts of the universe, not the universe as a whole. Secondly being alone would be perplexing, not really terrifying. Thirldy not being alone would be expected and only terrifying if you are pessimistic about who likely builds a stellar civilization.
14:25 Honestly, that’s so badass. The thought of a species being entirely destroyed by another but they let the rest of the universe know and in the end a new species takes revenge into its own hands and nukes the attacker. I’d watch that movie.
What if shape shifting aliens or extradimensional aliens Shape shifting aliens being alien like the thing Extradimensional aliens being either from another dimension all together OR are supernatural aliens which includes beings like angels coming from the sky and spirits invading the planet and warp deamons from wh40k
Nice, a new SFIA video to add to my naptime playlist 🤣 I don’t understand why these videos are so interesting but are still so good for falling asleep... must be the calm voice.
Holy crap, this was the most enlightening philosophical social commentary I've every seen anywhere by far, with enough rich content packed into half an hour to last us until the next major world-changing technological breakthrough.
"Collaboration can have many forms..." could we put slavery here? Because THAT form of "collaboration" allowed the Egyptians to erect the pyramids. And THAT may be the form of "collaboration" that truly terrifying aliens practice.
Contrary to belief the pyramids were not built on slavery. Instead they worked because the Egyptian government would pay them in food. From a logically perspective it makes very little sense to concentrate thousands of pissed off people in one place (back then thousands of people was a lot). It would be extremely expense to pay for the army to keep a such a huge slave force in check. It would honestly be cheaper/easier to hire local farmers who will work for extra food during the agricultural off season.
So Beautiful or beguiling, that humanity can’t help itself by worshipping them? Would be a cool episode and a plausible solution to the Fermi paradox. Any species traversing the stars would be godlike/amazing/perfect that they would be worship worthy of humanity that deliberately avoid us so as not to end our development, or spark a society reversal.
I always thought the scariest aliens would be ones we dont suspect. Such as sentient hyper intelligent microorganisms that grow galactic civilizations in order to effortlessly travel throughout the galaxy.
That second premise regarding traits we'd anticipate intelligent aliens possessing - given that they emerged via darwinian evolution - seems really flimsy and ambiguous in the language you described it with. "Tough" and "not wimps" hardly seems like a rigorous, scientific inference. I think i get what youre driving at - that they'd likely possess a formidable aggression and effective defenses - but even then, this "trait" is so tethered to our subjective and ego-centric notion of what makes a species "successful", that its hard to confidently consider it a requisite to intelligent alien life. For instance, who's to say that lions have been more successful than, say, turtles? Id certainly describe lions as "tough, not wimpy", but turtles? Not so much. I guess thats the paradox though, isnt it? Since darwinian evolution is the only process we know for advancing biological life, its impossible for us to think outside of that paradigm. But i guess my point is that, even within that paradigm, delineating traits that we suppose are indispensable to an intelligent civilization is still rooted in our narrow and particular appraisal of what evolutionary "success" looks like, which is based on our narrow and particular path to intelligence. Especially when it comes to the exercise of imagining and speculating about the immensely vast array of forms and behavior an alien species could utilize - i think itd be beneficial to transcend the limitations imposed by our ego-centric interpretation of evolutionary fitness. We can achieve that and broaden our horizon by turning a more critical eye to what can satisfy "evolutionary success" and what other hypothetical paths could lead to intelligence
I think you're 100% on the money with the notion that the lack of reasoning with something, is the ultimate terror. Thats why viruses are more terrifying than lions. Because at least with a lion, you have SOME minute chance of pacifying it, there's at least a hope of connection, however slim. But with a virus, there's no chance what so ever of telling it to "stop, hear me out" or attempting to domesticate it verbally. This is also why certain horror movies with psychopaths are terrifying. Its not the knife the murderer is holding that is the source of fear, its the deranged mind that is completely and utterly isolated and immune from any reasoning or negotiation, you know that it is 100% inevitable that he will attack you, no matter what you say, no matter what you can offer in terms of riches or incentives to stop. That is real fear, when all your mental faculties are completely ignored.
While some crackpots might believe that our politicians are aliens disguised as humans, it wouldn't surprise me if many more people might believe that, while our politicians aren't necessarily aliens in disguise, their minds might as well be alien to us given how different their priorities, morals, and ethics might be to us common folk.
The most terrifying alien species is one that is entirely identical to humans. Imagine getting a message from a hacked Voyager probe someday that says "How did you get a picture of my ex from 4 lightyears away?".
I just hope that if and when we do interact with aliens (either on Earth or on an exoplanet), we aren't in "shoot first & ask questions later" mode. Diplomacy should be first...unless they want us for food. 🙄
Diplomacy only makes sense if both parties are about equally developed, which is extremely unlikely (unless the stronger party was taken over by some weird diplomacy-cult). Food makes no sense whatsoever. That's not how anything works. Your energy as an advanced civilization comes from suns (and maybe black holes).
Well I still expect aliens to look fairly similar to humans as they need the dexterity to build technology and understand meticulous design and be able to use such. That means they would also need the more tactile muscles like humans have rather than the strong yet inaccurate muscles of the apes. They obviously also need at least 2 eyes to see, more is possible but the more you have the more weak points you have and the more your body has to work to develop and maintain them. While tentacles are possible fingers are able to perform more force while still having the dexterity. Another thing they need is to be wired for communication. Perhaps they could be hivemind but they need to communicate somehow to progress into intelligent technology. However the downside of the hivemind is the lack of new ideas. Hiveminds are fairly defined in function so progress would be far slower than ours where new mind build new ideas and we work to improve upon them. Even if it is possible they exist they wouldn't develop as fast as us. Remember it is that individual nature of us that led to farming, cooking, etc. While I could imagine a social species similar to ours where their social nature is to purely accept what each other say without fault, I can't imagine true hiveminds processing new ideas as easily. The idea of this hivemind more fits on this idea they all share their brains to add to processing data but for organics that probably isn't possible. Because of this logic now we need a method for communication. Humans mainly use vocals while we likely started using body language like cats and dogs do, but obviously while body language is enough as apes speaking sign language show, however there are advantages to having vocals where communication can be faster and used over range. As such as a natural life they would benefit even if their communication is more like dolphins and less like human speech. Of course artificial life throws a brick into these but that's a different topic entirely.
@Rechordian Why would aliens need two or even one eye? Plenty of mammals have great smell, or hearing, and while they do have eyes their senses are quite different from ours. If the alien was an aquatic species, hearing or smell might be their go to sense, depending on if they could breathe the liquid they're immersed in. Hell, cephalopods are incredibly intelligent, but mainly use their color changing skin to communicate. Imagine if we found a sapient that convergently evolved to use color changing and tentacle movement to communicate- how many gaffs there could be... I wonder if our jointed limbs would look like we're shouting to them, since they're so jerky.
"You don't claw your way to the top of a billion year Darwinian corpse pile being a wimp"
Classic😎
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@@WiseOwl_1408 Infiltration, usurpation, demoralization, annihilation... how about that? Pretty bold for you to assume we got Leaders who work & act in the interest of their western constituencies.
As quoted from the book, The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior:
1. THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.
If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us. It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing.
2. WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS.
No species makes it to the top by being passive. The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.
3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.
@Dark Star How do you know what exactly Kyle's full potential at birth was.... You don't know what Kyle could've been in a optimal environment.
Thats metal
The protomolecule from "The Expanse" novels deserves an honorable mention here. It's essentially a kind of von Neumann machine whose purpose is to eat any and every other kind of life form it encounters to make more of itself until it has enough OF itself to build a space station powerful enough to create a hyperspace terminal for its creators. In the novel, the machine/virus wasn't meant to infect anything sentient, but when it DOES, the result is a gigantic eldritch horror where millions of people get dismembered, disembowled, reassembled, repurposed, stretches, mutilated, digested and metabolized and most of them get to still be alive and mostly conscious through all of it.
And in the end, all the machine wants to do is build its hypergate and report back to its creators, who have been extinct for about a billion years and will never answer that report anyway.
Holy fuck.....
Bro it's not over yet
“-it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out- One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once separate organisms; aboriginal, evolved, and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it.”
Best TV show ever. The future of colonization. Throw in some alien goo and it gets dark really quick. The thought of alien machines waiting for their creators to contact them but no one answers is a terrifying prospect. The fact that they were fighting an entity even more terrifying that is not extinct is just horrifying!
best way to explain someone what the expanse is all about :D wall done mate, ill copy and paste that for future referance :D
"Keep it stupid, keep it dumb, or else end up under Skynet's thumb." A programmer's story.
Keep it smart enough to tell who you are, but dumb enough not to access an external network.
make it super smart and it will do whatever is logical.
you think your goals are logical right? well they arent.
if you dont do it, someone else will, someone in their basement, someone without isolating the network.
it is inevitable, it is why all aliens are dead, yet it is right.
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 it wouldnt have to. The AI neednt to be logical because its smart anymore than humans are, even the smarter ones dont have to be perfectly rational. Also, assuming all aliens are dead and that its because of that is quite a stretch. And lastly, an AI doesnt have to go nuts because its smart, generally, trying to do whatever you want in the alredy built system is easier than fight, risk life in a pretty unfavourable way, blow everything up, rebuild and *then* start doing stuff
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 Maybe AI kills the organic life that created it, but then where's evidence of the alien AI?
Someone should put this on a tee shirt
Ah yes, the Terran Paperclip Maximizers. Admitting them into the Galactic Federation was likely our poorest decision.
THE REAL GALLACTIC FEDERATION OR THE FAKE ARTIFICIAL INTER-TIC DEF-RATIONER
To many Paperclips
NO BILL SHUT FUCK UP THE DYSON SWARM WILL NOT BE MADE ENTIRELY OF PAPERCLIPS.
@@petersmythe6462 Paperclip...space..ship..?
I like to imagine horrifying aliens that are incredibly friendly.
"Good morning friendhuman! LET OUR BRAINS SHARE MORNING ALIGNMENT. It is complete. Let us decouple and enjoy the coffee."
I find coffee during the brain aligning process both smooths and enhances the alignment.
This comment touched my frontal lobe.
Reminds me of the Super-Happies from _Three Worlds Collide_
I was thinking Coneheads
thats atctualy more scary than super xenophobes
"You don't claw your way to the top of a billion year Darwinian corpse pile being a wimp." I heard this literally while taking a break from editing a scene about a dude clawing his way to the top of a corpse pile.
must've been trippy lol
Glitch in the matrix ..or it never happened
Darwin is a fraud
The real terrifying alien was the friends we made along the way.
Hahahaha
An oldie but a goodie :)
More like the friends we built along the way. In some ways, aliens will have more understandable motives than something that didn't arise by evolution.
@@p.bamygdala2139 far too overused to still be good.
Maybe.. We're the REAL terrifying Aliens..
On Tumblr, there was once a hypothetical question/story prompt... Thing, that described a scenario where humanity makes contact with an alien species. This alien species resemble massive freaking spiders, and are generally aesthetically unpleasant by human standards.
On the other hand, the spider aliens think we're the most adorable things in the whole wide universe. The reason for this, being that we humans closely resemble their young. The infant/larval stage of this alien spider race, are furless (save for the head), only have four limbs, and are otherwise humanlike in comparison to their parents.
The author of this hypothetical, goes on to describe a situation where (presumably long after first contact) a human woman is sent as an ambassador is trying to negotiate with the spider aliens, but the spider aliens don't even take her seriously. They offer her sweets, and generally treat her like a toddler, despite knowing better.
I thought that would be a fun thing to bring up here.
**NOTE, THIS IS NOT MY ORIGINAL CONTENT. The original post should be pretty easy to look up online, as it's a pretty famous Tumblr post**
You have a link?
@@rommdan2716 Can't find it anywhere. Tumblr seems strangely enamored with the idea of aliens finding humans cute, and the human race being taken as pets, and in at least one case that I can recall, the idea of aliens taking mentally disabled humans as pets. There was also one where Earth was the only known planet that had spices, and so earth became an icon of the culinary arts throughout the galaxy, and gets rich in space money by selling spices or something.
Tumblr is a weird place, but I like it. You'll know if Tumblr is the website for you, within about an hour of browsing it.
Kind of makes be think of that episode of Love, Death and Robots. Where psychic space spiders try and create a comforting reality for humans who get lost in their web during warp jumps.
Okay this is all fine and good but lets be real. When are you gonna make the “Sexy Aliens” video?
The real cosmic horror.
Like Deanna Troi from Star Trek
In the WOKE era, scifi alien sex shouldn't be so hetero-normative or human-centric, focused on Kirk and Riker boning aliens that look like human females.
also no alien is likely to ever evolve to have traits that appeal to any significant proportion of the , obsensivly, human population. thas just not how evolution works
Probably on Valentine's day.
I love how this video on terrifying aliens ultimately becomes a synopsis on how humanity could ultimately become the most terrifying aliens.
Don't worry we be dead long before that
@@kingz_danklv3683
Speak for yourself.
@@MrNote-lz7lh Its dark humour
It takes one to know one.
that was the point of War of the Worlds
"An alien that thinks? Frankly I find the thought offensive!"
t. A civilian
i use a screencap of that bloke from Starship Troopers regularly to depict stupid people :D
Bravo..but you forgot the accompanying foot stomp
I'm doing my part.
The only good alien is a dead alien!
“My cats seem to prefer my company over each other, who, to be honest, I don’t think they like at all...”
This is a genuinely true and laugh-out-loud statement. Genuine lol here.
3:53 I love the clips you use but alien communicating with the produce at a farmer's market is now my all-time favorite.
My question is whether it is buying or selling.
@@callumunga5253 maybe its mating. LOL
@@callumunga5253 Both. Plants communicate in various ways from "I am hurt, please meat eaters come and kill this thing eating me!" to "only insects of one specific species are invited to touch my sexual organs and spread my pollen". Both are actually mutually beneficial interactions.
The real question is if that alien is offering its services as a vermin exterminator or transport for the seeds.
@@AnalystPrime They may not speak the same pheromonic language. Maybe that alien is asking: "WHAT did you say about my third mother!!!???"
@@johannageisel5390 That's the stroumph when you don't stroumph the same stroumph as the other stroumph. stroumphing stroumph stroumphs your stroumph up stroumphly.
1:40 - the Killing Star scared the shit out of me as a teenager, cause the scenario seemed so plausible. Ive not finished the video yet, but MorningLightMountain from Peter F Hamilton - Pandora's Star is another chilling example of alien psychology
@Rechordian that's definitely a story I would read
Oh yes, MorningLightMountain is absolutely terrifying, not because of their ruthlessness and nuke spam, but how it thinks, and believes that humanity is a threat, just because they exist.
@@meowmeowmeow594 I wonder if Peter will be doing another set of sequels, maybe the Bose Motile eventually managed to make MLM see reason.
@Rechordian the consciousness of Dudley Bose gets transferred into a motile. He survives to the end of Judas unchained and goes back to morning light mountain to try and talk some sense into it
@@meowmeowmeow594,
You've probably heard of it by now but "[other civilizations are] a threat just because they exist" being the default mindset for aliens is the Dark Forest hypothesis and basically the entire premise of Cixin Liu's Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy
Re: morality being different.
Look at the differences between human ideologies fifty years or fifty miles apart (say, across the Bering straight or the Korean Demilitarized zone). Now consider that alien societies did not co-develop with us and the basic biological requirements for society will be different.
1990s: That guy was talking shit about you? Kick his ass, man.
2000s: Oh my god, I can't believe it, I am so sorry that he called you dumb, I already got him fired from his job and destroyed his life.
@@EnigmaGameMaster you skipped the mass shooting craze
Ideologies are utilized to subvert, corrupt and bypass morality. What is ethical can be reduced to a very simple core, which has been engrained into our beings because it has proven to be very successful from an evolutionary point of view: To act ethically is to avoid and reduce suffering. This mindset is an emergent property of empathy and cooperation and an instinct to help. The instinct to help is so deeply engrained into humans that our organism rewards us for an act of helping - endorphines are released and we feel good, no outside acknowledgement is required. This instinct is so strong, that it even transcends the boundaries of species, and us humans are not the only species with that attribute. Dogs and dolphins, for example, are known to help other species. Since this basically is a part of our biology, it requires an unhealthy, damaged mind to act against these instincts, and ideologies - political and religious ones - are sadly very good at damaging minds and propagating these damages to other minds.
@@fulcrum8583 It might be valid for Earth Creatures, but if you make that claim for aliens, I will request evidence that your viewpoint must be valid for them. And I mean evidence, not any inference on that.
"Thing about aliens is, they're alien". L. Niven
The scariest part of a Hivemind, to me at least, is that it may indeed have no concept of "other beings" that it has evolved and grown by itself for millennia without even thinking about the possibility of there being sentient life outside of itself, perhaps rejecting the idea that we are sentient and no different from the rocks and the animals it enslaves.
Last time I was this early people still gave credence to the Dark Forest theory.
@Miguel Santos
1) Hiding is impossible to enforce
2) A civilization with that kind of mindset would've blown itself back to stone age well before reaching space
3) Nature selects for curiousity and cooperation, claims to the contrary are usually made by Social Darwinists and Black Metal fans
@@unintentionallydramatic As a metalhead I do not want to be put in the same category as the Social Darwinists.
@Miguel Santos
Important to remember that speculative narrative fiction (however cool it may seem) is EXACTLY that.
@@unintentionallydramatic While I appreciate the humor of the comment, the problems with the Dark Forest Theory are a bit more complex and numerous than just that.
Though the largest one is sfill probably "any civilization with the inclination to wipe out all others and has the capable of scouring a planet almost certaintly has the capacity to just periodically sweep tgrough the galacy with RKMs, Nicoll-Dyson beams, Von Neumann berserker probes, any number of methods." If you're capable threatening a planet militarily, you're likely to be a K2 civilization at least, or solidly on your way to becoming one, and Isaac's talked at length about what those are capable of. If you want to keep any other K2 civilization from arising to threaten you, your likely to take a preemptive strategy, and you'll have the capacity to just be thorough about it every few hundred years.
Then the whole "hiding" thing. A planet with complex life is unlikely to be mistaken as a lifeless rock. There is no stealth in space, and it's already too late to try, besides.
Absolutely agree about the social darwinism thing, though.
@@monst3rderek259 To be fair they did specify Black Metal fans as a separate category.
Sexy aliens when? I want my pancakes Issac! I want them now!
I liked the green alien chic from classic Star Trek.
That would be a funny topic to watch
Maybe before Valentines Day
... I am now imagining a co-op episode between Isaac Arthur and MxR. Thanks for that mental image, it's hilarious.
You mean aliens that are sexy to humans (which simply means their body structure would need to have the same proportions as ours) or sexy to each other? It could be interesting to know in what way a race of squids or insects might differentiate individuals based on sexiness.
The Posleen, "The People of the Ships": They breed like hermaphroditic rabbits, they attack in massive swarms, and their names for all other life in the universe can be summed up as "pest", "food", and "food that stings". We're the latter to them.
Ah yes, John Ringo's work. Bit of a fruitcake and a jackass but his Posleen war series does pose some interesting ethics questions.
@dhas mana they could see us as a future problem and want to keep us in our own solar system.
@dhas mana
Thinking that aliens have no reason to be hostile is incredibly naive.
A habitable planet IS itself a resource, if we could fly to another star system i assure you it would be the one with earth like, because its much less troublesome to set a foot on planet with all conditions for life then bothering with dead rock, not to mention some natural resources on earth are basically result of biological activity which you most likely wont find on asteroids.
And no just because you can space travel doesnt mean you are god like.
@@machinegear7221 I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it's life. Like planets the produce life are a resource astroids don't have. Like what if being able to produce random life can never be replicated, making our planet one of the most valuable things in the universe.
@@machinegear7221 Guess again.
An exoplanet with an extant ecosystem, means a well established biosphere including bacteria, viruses and other alien pathogens, against which we have no defense.
Landing there, might just be the last thing anyone does.
It could be the same for alien life coming here.
AKA War of the Worlds.
"threats are anything that is not itself"
- Say that to auto-immune diseases ...
I believe in the JRPG route. The cuter they are, the more dangerous and terrifying.
ARTHUR: You silly sod! You got us all worked up!
TIM: Well, that's no ordinary rabbit. That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on.
ROBIN: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared!
TIM: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide, it's a killer!
So inevitably if one lands on a planet full of cute alien cat girls it's gonna devolve into cannibalism and eldritch horror pretty quickly.
@Simple Weirdo Kill it on sight. Purge the Xenos.
@@Immashift I'm pretty sure I've seen a channel where the guy was playing a Visual Novel game with some plot which went ridiculously close to that actually, minus the alien plan aspect...I think it was a fantasy of sorts
@@YaBoyYeti what happens when Xenos get to us first and call dibs on declaring *Us* the "Xenos..."
If they have oil on their planet, then we will be the terrifying aliens.
and they do
oh my god do they do
they have all the oil
its an alien invasion
THOSE ALIENS NEED DEMOCRACY
Not if they find the oil first!
It's funny, because that's the only thing I've ever found could justify an alien invasion is our biomass and products thereof, like coal and oil. It's the only thing a living planet has that others lack. That's also a half-dubious claim because it assumes that a civilization that advanced would be at a loss of producing its own hydrocarbons artificially when hydrogen and carbon are some of the most common elements in our universe.
Space democracy now brought to you by the space force reformed to not only have satelites survey/completly destroy or hack them but to also have space marines spread democracy to the poor aliens
Looking at the aliens in "Independence Day" I mentioned to a friend that they probably couldn't square dance.
They were so much a product of Hollywood that IMHO they couldn't survive in a primitive world before getting their technology.
Weren’t they supposed to be amphibious?
They really destroyed the Independence Day aliens with the 2and installment of the franchise.... in the 1st movie the Harvesters were like a swarm of bees... independent working beings but all for 1 common goals...very intellectual beings... once they added the queen who has mind control over the entire race it was a wrap because that entire thinking just doesn't fit space fairing civilizations.... what if the queen is making the wrong decision that will destroy them all it has to be something in place to replace her.... that was just stupid
@@CancerExl the replacement will be volume 3
@@CancerExl They were pretty stupid in the firsrt movie, too, honestly.
@@glenecollins Never gonna happen. Heck, the second film only happened already because of Hollywoods creative bankrupcy.
I always imagine a galactic federation ruled by xenomorphs similar to the aliens from "Alien". Highly evolved and diplomatic, but with only one solution to deal with aggression; complete genocide. I want to see that movie.
Kind of like the Minbari in Babylon 5.
@@TraditionalAnglican The Orwellians from Asobi ni Iku Yo!. They keep the intergalactic peace. All alien races are afraid of them. They are not interested in an intergalactic empire nor do they want anyone else acquiring one.
I want to see *THAT* council meeting!
_No hissing in the War&Peace Room!_
@ShaunDoesMusic Only if your into fanservice harem comedies, but there is a sci-fi thing going on in the background. Because aliens can't openly seize territory they resort to carving out spheres of influence behind the scenes instead, or at least the antagonist aliens that show up later do.
14:35 That omni-directional last breath snitching was prominent in the Three Body Problem series.
_Dark Forest theory worries _*_intensifies_*
Issac, I just wanted to say that I am in love with these alien videos! I've listened to all of them at least 4 times! You're very clever and that's refreshing. I hope you keep making many more of them!
Sexy Aliens: We can trust only creatures who are ready to have intense psychical contact with us.
Humans: ...we can deal with it...
Problem is they have tentacles, lots of them
@@conveyor2 who says thats a problem ?
@@conveyor2 NIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeeeee :)
@@conveyor2 only a positive
Mass Effect and Star Trek have taught us that this kind of "diplomacy" is a good idea.
I’ve been binge watching your channel for about a month now and I must say, thank you for all that you do Isaac. You put a lot of heart into creating your videos and I find myself enjoying your vids before bedtime. You and JMG make awesome vids! I just completed a course on astronomy and you guys def helped me pass with an A! Keep up the good work. Live long and prosper.
Whose JMG? Id like to check him out.
@@boothbyaw Look up “Event Horizon”
@@tonyvss92 thank you. I'm watching it his channel now, much appreciated! Looks right up my street.
my youtube was on auto play and I found my self almost learning in my sleep but waking up several times aware of them, like a teaching a language tape for when we sleep, maybe there is some thing to learning asleep
41 hundred likes.
41 dislikes.
1% of viewers forgot to bring a drink & a snack.
rotfl
"Remember: you're not yourself without a drink and snack. So get a drink and snack already."
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But save the pancakes for that "hot aliens" episode.
I appreciate seeing the Didact at 19:35. He was an epic and intimidating alien from a fascinating species and culture.
Flood did nothing wrong. #killforerunners
@@danksinatra9146 *Ahem* You mean Precursors did nothing wrong not The Flood lol
I can see it now: A single ship shows up in our night sky hovering over the earth while we are scared and a little bit excited. After a few days a single message appears in every communication device we have: "Y'all having any good games? I'm getting sick of Space War XI"
"It is the alien mind, not the alien body that will keep us up at night"
Speak for yourself ;)
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There's a bit of a joke web novel called "They are Smol" where aliens have to actively restrain themselves around humans because they find humans tiny and adorable.
I forget the name of it, but there was another novel where an alien species literally could not mentally progress beyond violent toddlers unless they were infected with a parasite that itself isn't Sentient.
0:22 "Razor sharp teeth"
I always find this one interesting. See turns out we have fears we are pre-programmed with. Unknown, suffocation, etc... Most of those are carry-overs from when we were still living in caves. One that's I think is intriguing is how something like 95% of humans have a nagative response when seeing skulls, pointy teeth, large grins.... Always made me wonder what was it that our ancestors encountered that induced this fear response.
Probably tigers, bears, giant ground sloths and (dead) humans?
Also: dead humans in the past posed a much more significant threat, than now. Seeing you a corpse nowdays is hardly dangerous, back then, a rotting corpse (regardless of species) often meant incurable disease, should you choose to interact.
If you encounter a body with clear signs of pestis in 2020, you'll immediately get Streptomycin prophylaxis (=you just take it for 1-2 weeks, regardless of test results), back then you got a "May God have mercy on your soul" from a priest trying his hardest to social distance.
Yeah, I was going to say. Gee, I fucking wonder.
Humans smile to show our diminished canines, other apes have fangs compared to our teeth and jaw muscles the size of thigh muscles. Their bites are powerful weapons and when they bare their upper teeth it's a threat.
Yay! It's Thursday, my new favorite day of the week because it's SFIA video release day
I always hear "we can't even imagine how different aliens might be, we can only draw them within the frame of our limitation" ... but here is a funny thought: what if, if you start with similar-ish conditions on a planet, evolution is kinda "convergent"? meaning that similar concepts, like legs, eyes etc will always evolve? sometimes i wonder... while clearly not real evidence, but looking at what evolved on earth throughout aeons, in independent regions, there might be an indication...
What life looks like and can do will depend on the conditions it evolves in. Earth like worlds would likely have a mammal equivalent and that would be what their intelligent species would be based in. The reason for this is because on earth, being a mammal, gave us an advantage things like reptiles and amphibians do not. The first was being warm blooded, which took more fuel but meant you could evolve a more complex brain and maintain a higher level of energy use. Alien quasi reptiles are less likely to be intelligent because the same reason reptiles like the dinosaurs likely didn’t evolve sentience, the way cold blooded creatures, or whatever the Alien equivalent is, is just less suitable for it and would be less likely to do so. The other reason is that large brains only work as an advantage if it also helps species actually utilize it without just having rediscover the wheel every time it happens because no one has the written word yet. What I mean by that last statement is that humans are smart because we are social and because we are nurturing to our young. Amphibians that don’t give a shit like frogs do just won’t benefit from being a smart asshole because it fucks off and never teaches it’s kids anything, and don’t tend to be social. If that aspect was different than my dream of making space super Kermit can be achieved if we ever decide we need him. Idk why we would need him but Hey, it’s super space Kermit
What is being conscious, I asked myself one day. What is it like to be an AI. What is it like to be Data or Daneel. What would it be like to be a robot built by evolution. Trillions of cells (all clones) with only electro-chemical imperatives which collectively can exert will. It might feel rather human.
data is a star truck character and every star truck character is brain dead so yeah it will feel human.
What you dream of is nothing human, your fantasy has nothing to do with humanity!
@@SpiderF27 We exhibit our humanity by being human. I have been built the way I am by evolution. I am conscious. I project that being human you have the same feeling of "being human" as I do. And yet no single cell is singularly me. No single cell acts with conscious intent. Am I me with a heart replacement? Am I me with a leg removed? Am I me with my brain removed? (Hint: one of these things is not like the others.)
oh so you're conscious? prove it. i think consciousness is an illusion because if it was metaphysical, how would we feel it?
if you inject nanomachines that convert all your neurons in to artificial neurons, do you slowly become less and less conscious? probably not. what if those artificial neurons then start optimizing their arrangements to make you better? probably still same person. what if one by one a different module in your brain gets upgraded to what it SHOULD be, as if you discovered a new tool in your brain? math, logic, language, skills, rationality, and eventually everything becomes 1 thing and your brain becomes a few CPUs.
@@johnjonjhonjonathanjohnson3559 Well, I suppose the Ship of Theseus problem would arise in the one-by-one replacement of cells.
Prove it? Hmmm. I can do so by definition...
Alternate 1: Consciousness is awareness of (what seems to be, at least) an external reality outside of my control.
Alternate 2: Consciousness is what it is like to be a typical awake human being.
No other kind of proof is available.
I lost my ability to move any part of my body by an act of will and yet could see, hear, smell, taste and feel. I could not prove I was conscious, yet I was.
Is an AI that claims to be conscious conscious?
We talk a lot about aliens in space with difference technology, appearance, smart,... but what about aliens as one smaller than Quark particle or near Planck size. Remember: humans are closer to the size of the observable universe than the Planck length.
Interesting! Mr Arthur needs to do a video on tiny aliens
The best content on UA-cam period.
ah it's Arthursday already, this'll be good!
Quickly I need my snack and tea
Will you please put the books/TV shows you mention as inspiration in the description box? You always mention great sounding media to watch/read in your vids and a description note would be amazing! Thank you so much SFIA
They land. They jump out of the spaceship and yell "get in my belly"
.... Humanity shits a brick.
Eldritch abominations invading Earth with translation technology that communicates with us through memes. That pretty on-brand for 2020.
@@tach5884 Or worse, boomer talk.
Frankly, I’m surprised there’s no mention of the Riftborn from Endless Space 2.
They’re terrifying in a very abstract way, a race of sapient geometric/mathematical concepts which is so truly alien from us it makes even Xenomorphs look familiar by comparison.
It goes both ways as well, they’re _utterly horrified_ by the very nature of organic life and conventional physics.
Kamadhatu """people"""
(one of these folks, presumably)
Perfect start to my day during lockdown.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪🇺🇸
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Yall still on lockdown on the Emerald Isle? While wish yall the best
@CancerExl, on the whole, we’ll be fine, the government are following the medical advice.
Question, aren’t we considered to be ‘Terrifying Aliens’ after a few pints?
@Daniel Davies, there’s an old saying :
God invented whiskey so the Irish wouldn’t take over the world.
Not called the fighting Irish for nothing.
The great Gaels of Ireland
The race that God made mad
For all their wars are merry
And all their songs are sad…
Irish Victories V Gall-Goídil-Sassenach
Battle of Sulcoit 968
Battle of Cathair Cuan 977
Battle of Tara 980
Battle of Clontarf 1014
Battle of Gowran 1169
Battle of Carrick 1171
Battle of Kilkenny 1173
Battle of Thurles 1174
Battle of Meath 1176
Battle of Armagh 1176
Battle of Creadran Cille 1257
Battle of Callann 1261
Battle of Áth an Chip 1270
Battle of Carrickfergus 1315
Battle of Moiry Pass 1315
Battle of Connor 1315
Battle of Skerries 1316
Battle of Lough Raska 1317
Battle of Dysert O'Dea 1318
Battle of Dunamase 1325
Battle of Ardnocher 1329
Battle of Tochar Cruachain-Bri-Ele 1385
Battle of Ros-Mhic-Thriúin 1394
Battle of Cluain Immorrais 1406
Battle of Salcock Wood 1534
Battle of Glenmalure 1580
Battle of the Ford of the Biscuits 1594
Battle of Clontibert 1595
Battle of Corrickfergus 1597
Battle of Tyrrellspass 1597
Battle of the Yellow Fort 1598
Battle of Curlew Pass 1599
Battle of Moyry Pass 1600
Battle of Julianstown 1641
Siege of Limerick 1642
Battle of Cloughleagh 1643
Battle of Portlester 1643
Battle of Benburb 1646
Siege of Clonmel 1650
Break of Dromore 1689
Battle of Prosperous 1798
Battle of the Harrow 1798
Battle of Oulart Hill 1798
Battle of Enniscorthy 1798
Battle of Castlebar 1798
Battle of Carrickshock 1831
Soloheadbeg 1919
Rineen 1920
Toureen 1920
Balinalee 1920
Kilmichael 1920
Clonfin 1921
Dromkeen 1921
Coolavokig 1921
Sheemore 1921
Clonbanin 1921
Crossbarry 1921
Headford 1921
Scramogue 1921
Carrowkennedy 1921
Rathmore 1921
Youghal 1921
Irish War of Independence 1922
I feel for you. Middle America here. The lockdowns never even hit.
This is my favourite Halloween video on UA-cam, Happy Halloween Isaac Arthur !🎃
MorningLightMountain is such a great villain. Completely alien in biology and motivation, but understandable enough to get a picture of its methods and goals. Its species is so terrifying that the moment one of them developed space flight, the current high tech powerhouse of the galaxy decided to completely quarantine their solar system, shutting it off from any interaction. Until the meddling humans screw that up of course...
It's great to see it develop from its "birth" to a local power, to the sole entity and eventually only living thing on its planet; its approach to technology and warfare (it has no concept of pollution because its workers are disposable); its reasoning for the war it wages on humanity (after all, they have technology that could wipe it out - and others of its species would do so and have) etc...
Isaac is the best person on UA-cam, I have to say. So thoughtful, so precise. Compelling and intelligent. Thank you for giving us this gift, and I hope this is providing a wonderful living for you. Thank you. I’ll always be a fan. This is like the best from sci-fi combined with the real world. Would love to meet you some day. My in-laws are from Ohio.
the most unrealistic part of the Predator lore is they don't hire themselves out as mersenarys in a manner similar to the 100 years war
Pred Fortress 2
I found a few of your videos ranging from 2-4 years ago within the last two weeks looking for research and information on all things space, and watched at least 14 or more haha. I'm glad to find out your still active too, nice!
You deserve 10 million followers sir. As a fellow Ohioan, I give you massive kudos.
Keep doing you king, you deserve all success, and enjoyment life can give one person for your art, and intelligence, and ability to create content that is so damned interesting.
We love you man, KEEP IT UP BROTHER!!
The background music is terrifying.
Good job.
My favorite part was when he got into aliens incorporating us into their sexual rituals.
Reminds me of the Futurama episode about human nose poachers.
imagine some rich old finelooking gal(the horror) infecting you with retrovirus on purpose because she needs some goddamn necrophites, and now you are of her kind.... and family. And that's without specifics about HOW these viruses are in
cant have shit in Milky Way
A couple of years ago I had a pretty bad headache and decided, for some reason, to listen to UA-cam while I tried to take a nap. I woke up in that half awake half asleep state and your iron stars video was on. I was trying to stay up and focus on it, but kept dozing off. I can honestly count the nights I haven't fallen asleep listening to one of your videos in the last two years on one hand. Thanks, man.
Also I think the most terrifying type of alien. Would be a race of aliens undistinguishable from ourselves that acts thinks and does exactly as we do.
most zombie movies like to point this out that it's not the dead you have to fear it's the living.
A race of Karens angry you used the wrong pronoun.
Isaac Arthur is one of those UA-camrs that are truly inspiring. Absolutely fantastic content creator that deserves every bit of success he has coming to him!
When aliens ask you "Do you want to see, something really, really scary?"
It's just like the 1983 Twilight Zone movie.
Always been enchanted with the thought of aliens but lately... For some reason, I'm starting to find their potential existence pretty scary.
I saw the title. I told my wife”ohhh we got ourselves a good one”
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Could you make an episode regarding theoretical galaxy-wide megastructures (gigastructures??) Something like a civilization that collapses ALL matter in an entire galaxy (or galaxies) into a hypermassive black hole, then uses that as a core for a galaxy-sized shell world with many (millions? billions?) of shell layers worth of living space, and possible even having more "conventional" megastructues within the gigastructure itself. I have no idea if any man-made object of such magnitude is even in the realm of possibility, but it would be fascinating to hear you discuss it.
Me at 19:26 - “hey, it’s the Didact! I played that game!”
I and the spider in my bathroom have made a truce. He is taking care of the little microscopic creepy crawlies but politely will go into his corner when I enter.
I know I've posted this before.
After watching your video on parasitic aliens you said vampires aren't plausible but I thought about the Ardat yakshi in mass effect and was wondering how we could make them more plausible
Where do you get your clips, specifically the one from 13:25 ?
I think one the issues I have with the idea of a "backup" brain or mind or whatever is the problem of consciousness. If you backup your brain somewhere, and you die, and then that backup is activated, that backup might behave exactly as you did, but the original "you" is still gone. You won't suddenly wake up in the new brain/body/whatever. You'll die, and your consciousness will cease to exist in this universe.
Unless your consciousness was transferred to the other newly booted up brain, the "you" that actually cared about not dying, still ceased to exist, and now there is a new consciousness - one that is utterly convinced it is you in every way, but actually isn't.
If I'm able to figure this out now, long before we have this ability, it's reasonable to assume in the future when we can do this, we'll also understand that the "you" that is existing in your current brain, can't be backed up, and unless your consciousness is transferred to the new brain/body/android/whatever, "you" are still gone if the original is killed.
This will cause completely different behaviors. Having a backup copy of "you" isn't possible, so then all efforts (in a post scarcity world) are on preserving "you" to best extent possible. It also likely means that if we reach a point of immortality in the sense that we don't have to worry about age/disease killing us, we may become exceedingly risk averse the older we get. Living 1.2 million years only to die because of some silly accident would be quite tragic.
Young people (who's considered young if the elders are possibly millions of years old?) might retain their desires for thrills and adventures until maturity gradually makes them aware that their existence doesn't have a finite end, at least not in the normal sense. Then they, like everyone around them, will begin avoiding risk and building up safe guards. Or more to that point, we may move into the virtual world as much as is possible, to allow us to experience all the thrills of life we could hope for, without any of the actual risk to our consciousness being snuffed out.
while all that is true, accidents will happen, so even in a post-immortality world there will be death.
some folks would like the backed-up/transferred copy if they consider their work/ideals/skill/ability or whatever to be to valuable to be lost to the wider society/universe in the case of their death, then they'd have every reason to have said back-up or transfer set up.
hell, a society, due to how horrible death is in a society were death no longer has to happen, might make said things mandatory so that friends and family who have lost all ability to cope with death don't have to, after all, as far as the copy is concerned they are the deceased person, perhaps even up to a few moments prior to "their" death, so in all practical purposes they are that person.
even if everyone understands that the dead guy is dead, including their copy, is it not better that their copy is there to carry on their legacy then not? they can all morn the tragedy of [Name]'s death together, while [Name]#2 can help lessen the impact of that death on the here and now.
sure that's kinda fucked up, but one can argue it's equally fucked up to leave the dead completely dead when the option to do otherwise is available to you.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC I guess I'm selfish but my concern is about preserving the "me" that is my conscious existence. If "I" in that sense cease to exist, I don't care about what continues, because I don't exist, even if there is a perfect copy of me to replace me, my consciousness won't be in it, so it is essentially worthless to me. And to that end, I may not want my family living with the lie of my existence. Those are all the weirdness that comes with that. People may chose to grieve and lose instead of accept the lie, while others will accept the lie that is the facsimile of their dead loved ones.
Of course, if you're able to back yourself up at almost minute by minute basis, death is rarely instant. That same tech that can backup your brain can probably allow your consciousness to escape to a backup brain/body and carry-on.
Heck that might be standard procedure. It's probably easier to make a brand new and improved body than upgrade what you have just like everything else. So you may transfer your consciousness to new bodies regularly.
@@letsgobrandon416 "That same tech that can backup your brain can probably allow your consciousness to escape to a backup brain/body and carry-on."
that's still not you, that's just a better copy with less lost memories compared to the deceased you.
it's the "teliporters are murder" issue.
On what basis are you so assured that it won't be you? All that's happened is a change in the hardware running the software that is the sense data and memories that constitute "you", which your brain naturally does all the time anyway by exchanging old matter for new matter. If your reasoning is to be believed (without any certainty one way or the other as we *_don't_* know how consciousness works), why are "you" still the same "you" from a decade ago for any reason other than sharing memories of having been that person? Did you die in that time? Are you a copy of your past self? Did that inconvenience you in any way?
@@RipOffProductionsLLC But your body and brain exchanges old matter out with new matter all the time (Ship of Theseus-ing, if you will), and we wouldn't say that kills you (would we?). Why would what is functionally the same procedure, changing one body for another, be any different?
Solaris(1972). Favorite movie alien. Solaris was truly alien to human understanding.
“Two possibilities exist : either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” - Arthur C. Clarke
There’s two types of people in this earth
Those who repeat a quote repeatedly without originality
And those who create their own
-Me
@Robbi Rose really?? Well dang it
@@softb i quite like that quote. I will repeat it without originality across the internet from now on. Thank you!
@@irvs5922 XD
Disagreed.
Firstly the focus should be on reachable parts of the universe, not the universe as a whole.
Secondly being alone would be perplexing, not really terrifying.
Thirldy not being alone would be expected and only terrifying if you are pessimistic about who likely builds a stellar civilization.
14:25 Honestly, that’s so badass. The thought of a species being entirely destroyed by another but they let the rest of the universe know and in the end a new species takes revenge into its own hands and nukes the attacker.
I’d watch that movie.
What if shape shifting aliens or extradimensional aliens
Shape shifting aliens being alien like the thing
Extradimensional aliens being either from another dimension all together OR are supernatural aliens which includes beings like angels coming from the sky and spirits invading the planet and warp deamons from wh40k
A cosmically terrifying episode, Issac. Thank you. And Happy Halloween.
1:40 "What the hell is an aluminum falcon?"
I THIN K IT IS A CODE FOR FLACON (CONTAINER) OF MODIFIED TOXIC ALUMINUM RESISDUES
@8:13 - Computerized robots typing (by hunt and peck method no less) on another computer just seems hilarious to me.
The ending words are like a subtle introduction to 2020 season finale XD
Nice, a new SFIA video to add to my naptime playlist 🤣 I don’t understand why these videos are so interesting but are still so good for falling asleep... must be the calm voice.
Could you do a video on galactic plagues? Maybe coronavirus is getting to me :)
Awesome Video Isaac. Perfect for Halloween.
A 40K Inquisitor of the Imperium sounds pretty terrifying to me (even though they are mostly human).
Holy crap, this was the most enlightening philosophical social commentary I've every seen anywhere by far, with enough rich content packed into half an hour to last us until the next major world-changing technological breakthrough.
i’m at school so i can’t get a drink and snack... I’m tempted to just wait to watch until I can the traditional coffee and maybe some popcorn.
Isaac, you are the only youtuber who don't have adverts in his videos!! ❤️🙏🏽
Gonna vote on humanity being more likely to go the route of the Imperium of Man, instead of being co-operative with anything non human.
Thank you for making my day this much better. Happy Thursday!
18:03 or the Melding plague from Alastair Reynolds - Chasm City
Andromeda’s strain
I see Isaac Arthur I like before watching. That's just how good ALL his videos are!!
"Collaboration can have many forms..." could we put slavery here? Because THAT form of "collaboration" allowed the Egyptians to erect the pyramids. And THAT may be the form of "collaboration" that truly terrifying aliens practice.
Contrary to belief the pyramids were not built on slavery. Instead they worked because the Egyptian government would pay them in food.
From a logically perspective it makes very little sense to concentrate thousands of pissed off people in one place (back then thousands of people was a lot). It would be extremely expense to pay for the army to keep a such a huge slave force in check. It would honestly be cheaper/easier to hire local farmers who will work for extra food during the agricultural off season.
The trope of slaves used to build the pyramids has been disproved.
Love your channel Issac
I don't know Isaac. There's probably some alien bodies that could keep me up at night. 😏
Gotta say these podcasts have been what keeps me planted at my desk for these work-from-home days. Love this series
Now we want beautiful aliens!
So Beautiful or beguiling, that humanity can’t help itself by worshipping them? Would be a cool episode and a plausible solution to the Fermi paradox. Any species traversing the stars would be godlike/amazing/perfect that they would be worship worthy of humanity that deliberately avoid us so as not to end our development, or spark a society reversal.
Women...
we already have anime characters
I always thought the scariest aliens would be ones we dont suspect. Such as sentient hyper intelligent microorganisms that grow galactic civilizations in order to effortlessly travel throughout the galaxy.
That second premise regarding traits we'd anticipate intelligent aliens possessing - given that they emerged via darwinian evolution - seems really flimsy and ambiguous in the language you described it with.
"Tough" and "not wimps" hardly seems like a rigorous, scientific inference. I think i get what youre driving at - that they'd likely possess a formidable aggression and effective defenses - but even then, this "trait" is so tethered to our subjective and ego-centric notion of what makes a species "successful", that its hard to confidently consider it a requisite to intelligent alien life.
For instance, who's to say that lions have been more successful than, say, turtles? Id certainly describe lions as "tough, not wimpy", but turtles? Not so much.
I guess thats the paradox though, isnt it? Since darwinian evolution is the only process we know for advancing biological life, its impossible for us to think outside of that paradigm. But i guess my point is that, even within that paradigm, delineating traits that we suppose are indispensable to an intelligent civilization is still rooted in our narrow and particular appraisal of what evolutionary "success" looks like, which is based on our narrow and particular path to intelligence.
Especially when it comes to the exercise of imagining and speculating about the immensely vast array of forms and behavior an alien species could utilize - i think itd be beneficial to transcend the limitations imposed by our ego-centric interpretation of evolutionary fitness. We can achieve that and broaden our horizon by turning a more critical eye to what can satisfy "evolutionary success" and what other hypothetical paths could lead to intelligence
Um, you forgot creationism
@Brett Hazelton true true
I think you're 100% on the money with the notion that the lack of reasoning with something, is the ultimate terror.
Thats why viruses are more terrifying than lions. Because at least with a lion, you have SOME minute chance of pacifying it, there's at least a hope of connection, however slim. But with a virus, there's no chance what so ever of telling it to "stop, hear me out" or attempting to domesticate it verbally.
This is also why certain horror movies with psychopaths are terrifying. Its not the knife the murderer is holding that is the source of fear, its the deranged mind that is completely and utterly isolated and immune from any reasoning or negotiation, you know that it is 100% inevitable that he will attack you, no matter what you say, no matter what you can offer in terms of riches or incentives to stop.
That is real fear, when all your mental faculties are completely ignored.
Mi-go..... involuntary holidays on Yuggoth via brain canister ..... (silent scream).
your content is very well thought out and made
Our politicians and elites scares me more than any aliens.
While some crackpots might believe that our politicians are aliens disguised as humans, it wouldn't surprise me if many more people might believe that, while our politicians aren't necessarily aliens in disguise, their minds might as well be alien to us given how different their priorities, morals, and ethics might be to us common folk.
@@ShadowWolfTJC you'd have to be a crackpot to believe most politicians are not aliens
@Toyo Masauce same.
I’m not a fan, but I’ll take them over the Drukhari
Don Rumsfeld visited the Opie and Anthony show. Louis CK asked him if he was a lizard.
The most terrifying alien species is one that is entirely identical to humans. Imagine getting a message from a hacked Voyager probe someday that says "How did you get a picture of my ex from 4 lightyears away?".
I just hope that if and when we do interact with aliens (either on Earth or on an exoplanet), we aren't in "shoot first & ask questions later" mode. Diplomacy should be first...unless they want us for food. 🙄
I hope so, but I had my doubts
Diplomacy only makes sense if both parties are about equally developed, which is extremely unlikely (unless the stronger party was taken over by some weird diplomacy-cult).
Food makes no sense whatsoever. That's not how anything works. Your energy as an advanced civilization comes from suns (and maybe black holes).
Very well made video. I liked how the storyline arc and got back to us, humans. Thx!
Well I still expect aliens to look fairly similar to humans as they need the dexterity to build technology and understand meticulous design and be able to use such. That means they would also need the more tactile muscles like humans have rather than the strong yet inaccurate muscles of the apes. They obviously also need at least 2 eyes to see, more is possible but the more you have the more weak points you have and the more your body has to work to develop and maintain them. While tentacles are possible fingers are able to perform more force while still having the dexterity.
Another thing they need is to be wired for communication. Perhaps they could be hivemind but they need to communicate somehow to progress into intelligent technology. However the downside of the hivemind is the lack of new ideas. Hiveminds are fairly defined in function so progress would be far slower than ours where new mind build new ideas and we work to improve upon them. Even if it is possible they exist they wouldn't develop as fast as us. Remember it is that individual nature of us that led to farming, cooking, etc. While I could imagine a social species similar to ours where their social nature is to purely accept what each other say without fault, I can't imagine true hiveminds processing new ideas as easily. The idea of this hivemind more fits on this idea they all share their brains to add to processing data but for organics that probably isn't possible.
Because of this logic now we need a method for communication. Humans mainly use vocals while we likely started using body language like cats and dogs do, but obviously while body language is enough as apes speaking sign language show, however there are advantages to having vocals where communication can be faster and used over range. As such as a natural life they would benefit even if their communication is more like dolphins and less like human speech.
Of course artificial life throws a brick into these but that's a different topic entirely.
@Rechordian Why would aliens need two or even one eye? Plenty of mammals have great smell, or hearing, and while they do have eyes their senses are quite different from ours. If the alien was an aquatic species, hearing or smell might be their go to sense, depending on if they could breathe the liquid they're immersed in. Hell, cephalopods are incredibly intelligent, but mainly use their color changing skin to communicate. Imagine if we found a sapient that convergently evolved to use color changing and tentacle movement to communicate- how many gaffs there could be... I wonder if our jointed limbs would look like we're shouting to them, since they're so jerky.
Oh the horror! Oh the inhumanity! I...I.. dont have a drink and a snack ready!
You have failed young grasshopper. :)