If you want to get an avatar made, someone recommended this Discord server and it looks like a great place to find awesome artists: discord.gg/T6m9x2nXkT
My partner makes avatars and she only charges around $30 USD give or take depending on the complexity. A few people have been buying them and loving them, not being biased or anything she just loves making avatars (and not making them look like that last one in the video haha) Her VRC name is Queenwolff
@@thebaku818 You can find all that person's information and links by going to their UA-cam profile description! They have eeevery links needed in there for contact! 😍
You were a great customer, glad you liked the avatar! I honestly have no clue how that distortion happened, think it’s an issue with the modeling software I used (it’s super basic)
As a 3D artist looking to expand into VRC avatars, this was a great video to help me understand what people are looking for in avatars. I've played a bit of VRC but even still, seeing critiques of others work helps to put certain things in more concrete terms.
Wow the 150$ one seems more like a troll rather than a honest try that got cancelled because of the lack of time. Normally you take a male base to blender that you bought for 20-30$ somewhere, hook it up with a face, put the requested hair on top add the clothes and some accessories to it and export the model. Then you upload it into Unity, rig the model, shader the materials, put some cool effects like emission maps on the hair or some other parts, add some dynamic bones to hair and some colliders to the head and the hands (so the hair doesn't flop into the head), save the scene and export the package. DONE An Experienced Creator will do this in 30min to 2 hours (depending on how good the result needs to be) and be done with it. Also you will never get malformed bodies or flopping hair like that cuz for hair you have your preset values you always use.
@@slutmagic383 nah u rig ur model in blender or import a already rigged model. In Unity u just check if your rigging worked and disable upper chest and jaw bone. That's pretty much it.
Or you can really get into detail by using VRoid and making avatars to exact specifications. Then you just make whatever edits you need in Blender (usually I don't need to make any blender changes) then put it in unity for shaders, expression to gesture rigging, and dynamic bones (if you choose to add them).
As an avatar creator myself I can’t bear to see the quality on the $150 avatar. So many issues. Weight painting on the hoodie (especially on the elbows) is horrendous, textures on the hands and neck look creepy, proportions are not very good, overall not good for full body users with that chest bending forward. Actually, not good at all. Keep rocking that $60 one, it’s so much better.
i dont think thats actually case here it sounds way more likly a case where artist didnt realy feel like they wanted to working with him or doesnt have a well put to geather priority of who they work on first or last so they realy put minimal effort when they did work on his stuff in particula
@@Coffeeratgaming nah man, it was just dogshit, You can litterally find better avatars for free inside a Avatar world, also my friend has an avatar that she paid 35 bucks for and it has over 10 different toggles, props, color change etc, and this dident even have emotes😂
For the last one with the highlight they were using an emission layer on the material to get the highlights you requested instead of opening an art/editing software to make the material for the hair by scratch it seems. Which explains why it was lighter in color when they showed you.
These prices are honestly a steal...$50 bucks should give you an hour or two from a 3d artist..these avatars take much longer. Even if they have a template that they just tweak they are working for peanuts.
Wow didn't realise how new this video was. Very disappointing about the $150 dollar avatar. They should of just said that they couldn't take the job because they were to busy with multiple other jobs.
Seeing both the 60$ and 150$ one be completely flipped MMD TDA assets, which are illegal to make a profit on, and the 15$ one be made from scratch kinda has me on the floor lol. I'm no expert, but if I plan on making someone an MMD rig, I check the model rules first. Children think they can get away with profiting off of others' work, but that's not how the world operates.
Y E S, my God it pains me SO MUCH as someone who uses MMD regularly to see a model that I've SEEN and read the rules of before before used improperly within the VRchat community barely ANY of em even TRY to credit the original creators and end up getting the praise for them
5:22 OK, looking at that avatar, as an MMD user myself, I can definitely confirm that's a TDA face and TDA doesn't allow people to sell TDA model edits🤦♂️
I wanted to say specifically the avatar base that both $60 and $150 is called TDA and it's illegal for anyone to edit and make profit off of those edits. It's pretty common in VRCHAT now i suppose, but wanted to give you a heads up it's illegal to do.
The 2nd and 3rd person literally scammed you since they're stolen content, they didn't create those models from scratch, technically what they're doing is illegal.
@@PrincessTwilightdash you mean the ones that didn't listen to the community and kept using tda even though it's banned unless it's a completely free model, the creator community has moved away from tda.
I had a similar thing happen the seller spoke English well made the avatar I mentioned at the beginning that it needs to be quest compatible they said it was it was uploaded pc only asked them again they said they’d take a look they haven’t every since just ignored me and I can’t convert it to quest because that would mean changing the overall look so I spend hundreds on an avatar I can’t even use
My native language is Spanish but the problem there is the prise of the third one. 150$ I assume dollar's, the problem is that normally in all speaking Spanish countries normally the dollar has a high value and sometimes u have to pay taxes when u are getting them or using them. (150 dollars today in my country are 15644.99 but maybe tomorrow the value goes up or down) So... I am confused if that person actually mades avatars for Spanish people or not
I was actually going to buy an avatar from that exact 150 usd artist... Im so happy i bought one from gumroad. It came finished but i was given every single asset so i could theoretically edit it ANY way i want
So here's my story i bought a custom avatar from the 150$ artist but instead of 150$ i paid 230$ which yes, is expensive for an avi but i wanted something no one else had well after a month i finally got something i didn't really like honestly. BUT!! it pushed me to learn unity and blender to make the avi i paid for better which after a year of having it, it doesn't look anything like what I've bought and its completely edited by me which actually helped me start my little side business editing avatars and making my money back plus more. So it kind of was like a punch in the face but it pushed me to do something i never thought i would ever do
Honestly I just bought the Hakka3d base model and turned it into my own, bought a cat ears/tail pack, some outfits and bam, totally unique avatar just for me 1of1 and I also added eye tracking to it myself which I believe is a first out of any Hakka models
Hi ! I have a question please, how do you record yourself in facecam like this with you avatar? Is it with an Oculus quest 2? If yes how do you do please ? Thannks 🔥
Hey is it a good idea to make a base In VRoid and then export it to Blender and make the clothes and details if I use the oculus quest 2 with it to the PC ?
I was looking on fiverr the other day and I saw were scammers. Be careful everyone. Plenty of tutorials out there to help walk you through how to create/upload avatars. Great video!
i had an issue with Hex's on my own custom avatar too, it was the shaders that totally changed it for me most of the time and I ended up just not using Poi for that part
right now the problem is tho the base the model uses is originally by TDA ( a hatsune miku model from 8 years ago that was made for MMD ) who actually doesnt allow people to profit from using his base.. atleast from as far as i know. i know alot of people dont care about the rules people put on bases ( cause VRchat is a free game and so should all its content be according to them ) but still tho..
I was ready to sympathize with the artist on the $150 one because like... modeling is hard. and in general I feel artists should be charging more for their work than they do. Then I saw it and just...... It's an edit. Clearly. The edit job is terrible, the rigging is jagged and broken, and about the only good thing is the face and hair which they probably didn't have to make many changes to. That's really disappointing. If you ever want an avatar in the future, please hit me up. I do completely original work for only $50 more and can promise you better quality.
You kinda got scammed, some of the artists u bought from used other peoples hair and clothes, and they use the TDA styled base that has rules that say you can’t use it for profit Also insight on the shader thing for the quest, they use mmd shaders and those aren’t supported on the quest
Hey panda! Do you have a video on how to upload your custom avatar to the quest? I want to buy a custom avatar but I’m unsure on how to upload it to my quest
for me i feel like the 150 dollar avatar's side view seems normal but it was definitely leaning more towards a female kinda anatomy and the artist just tried stretching out the body width for a more masculine image for the front view, but they make him look even more wonky lol Probably did the same with the neck and the hands and added intense shading to it but lmao kinda looks like a turtle with its neck shrunk back
3:51 "I have this shirt here that says 'Panda'" "アワクロワ" (Awakurowa) (the closest i could get with katakana) Hate to backseat but *atleast* it could have been パンダ which literally is "Panda"
ugh I have dealt with fivver artists too much.... is VERY rare you get someone good.... I duno about avatars but I have done some graphical assets for other things and its always just a mess....
I know of a few people on Booth and other places, but a lot of the avatar makers I tend toward are furry makers. You're going to spend a little more for a custom furry avatar lol
The 150 dollar one seems like a poor attempt at slapping random shit they found. Around that price I'd assume 3d artists would begin to create their own assets
this makes me feel less bad about the avatars i create... maybe i should try selling custom avatars for like 15-20 dollars lol tho theres probably a lot of competition so maybe not, plus i dont have money to buy a bunch of assets
that 150 dollar one is so bad. i've just learnt how to use unity not even a year ago and yet i manage to make avatars that look way better in all ways. you can fix the whole hair clipping problem by adding one single script for a collider, and that's it
The last "Artist" was simply fishing cash. That has nothing to do with "I had so many orders in between yada yada". They are just excusing out of nowhere that they took the money up front making you wait. 2-3weeks when they say is fine. Everything else they do about YOUR order is not valid as excuse. They just went for the victims role. Such people should not even consider pricing themselfes so high imo.
If you want to get an avatar made, someone recommended this Discord server and it looks like a great place to find awesome artists: discord.gg/T6m9x2nXkT
My partner makes avatars and she only charges around $30 USD give or take depending on the complexity. A few people have been buying them and loving them, not being biased or anything she just loves making avatars (and not making them look like that last one in the video haha) Her VRC name is Queenwolff
@@joshuajames7034 ayo can u tell me where to see examples? And do they work on quest?
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What? Isn't it free?
What is the discord name?? The link is expired!
The $150 one had me laughing so hard, I can’t believe they actually sent you that.
it looks like e.t lmao
ikr
As someone who works on fiverr full time as an avatar creator, this final avatar is honestly painful to look at haha
👀
Donnie Darko or a Frank for a poor struggling soul please lol
How cam I find you? Might check out your work sometime
@@thebaku818 You can find all that person's information and links by going to their UA-cam profile description! They have eeevery links needed in there for contact! 😍
You were a great customer, glad you liked the avatar! I honestly have no clue how that distortion happened, think it’s an issue with the modeling software I used (it’s super basic)
I'm not even worried about it. Overall, it's still awesome! Thanks again!
Ayy I know you
It's not an issue with the modelling software, it's to do with how you rigged and weight-painted it....
It looks like a problem with shading of the normals, not too hard to fix
Great avatar man, I personally love a simplicity avatar
This was a really fucking great video idea dude.
I kinda want to do something similar to this, but man you nailed it so well. Great content panda ❤️❤️
I really appreciate the feedback and you stopping by 😀 would love to see your version of this. It would be really cool to see!
Ye it would
Ayyyyyy thrill, you're the whole reason I got into vr!! Love your vids❤️
AYOOOO THRILL IS HERE
The $150 is my sleep paralysis demon
BAHAHHS X2
As a 3D artist looking to expand into VRC avatars, this was a great video to help me understand what people are looking for in avatars. I've played a bit of VRC but even still, seeing critiques of others work helps to put certain things in more concrete terms.
Wow the 150$ one seems more like a troll rather than a honest try that got cancelled because of the lack of time. Normally you take a male base to blender that you bought for 20-30$ somewhere, hook it up with a face, put the requested hair on top add the clothes and some accessories to it and export the model. Then you upload it into Unity, rig the model, shader the materials, put some cool effects like emission maps on the hair or some other parts, add some dynamic bones to hair and some colliders to the head and the hands (so the hair doesn't flop into the head), save the scene and export the package. DONE
An Experienced Creator will do this in 30min to 2 hours (depending on how good the result needs to be) and be done with it. Also you will never get malformed bodies or flopping hair like that cuz for hair you have your preset values you always use.
is it smarter to rig in unity instead of blender using rigify?
@@slutmagic383 nah u rig ur model in blender or import a already rigged model. In Unity u just check if your rigging worked and disable upper chest and jaw bone. That's pretty much it.
Or you can really get into detail by using VRoid and making avatars to exact specifications. Then you just make whatever edits you need in Blender (usually I don't need to make any blender changes) then put it in unity for shaders, expression to gesture rigging, and dynamic bones (if you choose to add them).
id rather use the 10$ to the 150$ one
Lol same
The $150 one legit just looks like if you picked random free assets and made them into a VR Chat avatar lmao
that's because they did
As an avatar creator myself I can’t bear to see the quality on the $150 avatar. So many issues. Weight painting on the hoodie (especially on the elbows) is horrendous, textures on the hands and neck look creepy, proportions are not very good, overall not good for full body users with that chest bending forward. Actually, not good at all. Keep rocking that $60 one, it’s so much better.
The $150 one sounds like a typical scammer, or someone who has overestimated their avatar making abilities. 😑
i dont think thats actually case here it sounds way more likly a case where artist didnt realy feel like they wanted to working with him or doesnt have a well put to geather priority of who they work on first or last so they realy put minimal effort when they did work on his stuff in particula
@@Coffeeratgaming thats a shitty artist then if i pay a fat stack you are not gonna slack on it lmao
@@Serek_Studios i agree if u artist u should cancel if u dont want work on it or sya so tho suspect fiver lower your rating for thos stuff
@@Coffeeratgaming that was a pure scam from that guy
@@Coffeeratgaming nah man, it was just dogshit, You can litterally find better avatars for free inside a Avatar world, also my friend has an avatar that she paid 35 bucks for and it has over 10 different toggles, props, color change etc, and this dident even have emotes😂
For the last one with the highlight they were using an emission layer on the material to get the highlights you requested instead of opening an art/editing software to make the material for the hair by scratch it seems. Which explains why it was lighter in color when they showed you.
These prices are honestly a steal...$50 bucks should give you an hour or two from a 3d artist..these avatars take much longer.
Even if they have a template that they just tweak they are working for peanuts.
Wow didn't realise how new this video was. Very disappointing about the $150 dollar avatar. They should of just said that they couldn't take the job because they were to busy with multiple other jobs.
oh my god the 150$ one is so yikes
I come from the future to tell you the final avatar creator has increased their prices by a large factor.
Seeing both the 60$ and 150$ one be completely flipped MMD TDA assets, which are illegal to make a profit on, and the 15$ one be made from scratch kinda has me on the floor lol.
I'm no expert, but if I plan on making someone an MMD rig, I check the model rules first. Children think they can get away with profiting off of others' work, but that's not how the world operates.
Y E S, my God it pains me SO MUCH as someone who uses MMD regularly to see a model that I've SEEN and read the rules of before before used improperly within the VRchat community barely ANY of em even TRY to credit the original creators and end up getting the praise for them
The people who cry the loudest about the use of MMD used them the most and are projecting
5:22 OK, looking at that avatar, as an MMD user myself, I can definitely confirm that's a TDA face and TDA doesn't allow people to sell TDA model edits🤦♂️
I wanted to say specifically the avatar base that both $60 and $150 is called TDA and it's illegal for anyone to edit and make profit off of those edits. It's pretty common in VRCHAT now i suppose, but wanted to give you a heads up it's illegal to do.
yea that ^ might aswell buy a booth model
Is making model with vroid considered illegal too?
Since its free and I don't remember seeing a paid version for business use
@@ooo1o8o1 i dont think its ilegal its free so it can used by everyone u should be fine
You can’t make profit off of models with TDA bodies and heads, but you can use other assets as long as you properly credit !
@@trashcan8183 yes
damn 150 dollars to be built like a cereal box
The $150 one 😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😭😂😂😂
who else died laughing at the final one
The 2nd and 3rd person literally scammed you since they're stolen content, they didn't create those models from scratch, technically what they're doing is illegal.
The 2nd one too? How do you know
@@animeisgodly8370 its an edited tda
@@frosty848 true but in vrc 90% of the model is based on Tda mostly the face
@@PrincessTwilightdash you mean the ones that didn't listen to the community and kept using tda even though it's banned unless it's a completely free model, the creator community has moved away from tda.
That made me giggle more than it should have
whoever made that $150 avatar scammed you, looking at it I just wanna fix it for you T^T so bad dude.
i mean guess thats what happens when they rush the order in faviour of getting u out of there hair
I had a similar thing happen the seller spoke English well made the avatar I mentioned at the beginning that it needs to be quest compatible they said it was it was uploaded pc only asked them again they said they’d take a look they haven’t every since just ignored me and I can’t convert it to quest because that would mean changing the overall look so I spend hundreds on an avatar I can’t even use
That's frustrating as hell
ive made over 80 models quest compatible if you need help giving quest players the option to see you.
15 dollar looks actually pretty awesome
You got ripped with the last one, holy...
Have never created one of these, but give me a week and a box of sauv blanc and I'll match that
I know you're frustrated about the 150$ avatar but im still curious about a real 150$ avatar
My native language is Spanish but the problem there is the prise of the third one.
150$ I assume dollar's, the problem is that normally in all speaking Spanish countries normally the dollar has a high value and sometimes u have to pay taxes when u are getting them or using them.
(150 dollars today in my country are 15644.99 but maybe tomorrow the value goes up or down)
So...
I am confused if that person actually mades avatars for Spanish people or not
aclaration:the taxes come from the own country not United states 👍
I was actually going to buy an avatar from that exact 150 usd artist... Im so happy i bought one from gumroad. It came finished but i was given every single asset so i could theoretically edit it ANY way i want
have u got a link for this please x
This was awesome! Good job!
The 150 one proportions are all wrong holy shit
So here's my story i bought a custom avatar from the 150$ artist but instead of 150$ i paid 230$ which yes, is expensive for an avi but i wanted something no one else had well after a month i finally got something i didn't really like honestly. BUT!! it pushed me to learn unity and blender to make the avi i paid for better which after a year of having it, it doesn't look anything like what I've bought and its completely edited by me which actually helped me start my little side business editing avatars and making my money back plus more. So it kind of was like a punch in the face but it pushed me to do something i never thought i would ever do
Honestly I just bought the Hakka3d base model and turned it into my own, bought a cat ears/tail pack, some outfits and bam, totally unique avatar just for me 1of1 and I also added eye tracking to it myself which I believe is a first out of any Hakka models
Where did you buy your base model at? If you don’t mind me asking
i swear to god the $150 one haunts me in my dreams
Hi ! I have a question please, how do you record yourself in facecam like this with you avatar? Is it with an Oculus quest 2? If yes how do you do please ? Thannks 🔥
Hey! I'm just using VRChat's stream camera on the Quest 2. :)
@@VirtualPandaVR Owh great so the stream camera is working even for Quest 2 users, thank you fella !
@@ADAMLERIGOLOW I believe they just added it. But I usually do it on the steam version with my quest 2
Can fiver make a quest friendly avatar that floats or flys on command?
Hey is it a good idea to make a base In VRoid and then export it to Blender and make the clothes and details if I use the oculus quest 2 with it to the PC ?
I was looking on fiverr the other day and I saw were scammers. Be careful everyone. Plenty of tutorials out there to help walk you through how to create/upload avatars. Great video!
I just started with makin avatars I'm not selling cause I'm still learning a lot but I'm having fun
I really like the 60 one, they did a really great job
150 dollars and they don’t even bother putting bone colliders.
it was so annoying with the hair going into the head i couldnt keep my eyes off it lol
i had an issue with Hex's on my own custom avatar too, it was the shaders that totally changed it for me most of the time and I ended up just not using Poi for that part
Bro, you are so underrated.
Oh my goodness that 150 dollar one 💀💀
I'd be taking them to court lmao..
right now the problem is tho the base the model uses is originally by TDA ( a hatsune miku model from 8 years ago that was made for MMD ) who actually doesnt allow people to profit from using his base.. atleast from as far as i know.
i know alot of people dont care about the rules people put on bases ( cause VRchat is a free game and so should all its content be according to them ) but still tho..
I don't think I've ever done a model that wasn't also quest compatible...hell maybe I should get on fiver...
I am.new to VR and was wondering what room (program) he is standing in it looks really crisp
I was ready to sympathize with the artist on the $150 one because like... modeling is hard. and in general I feel artists should be charging more for their work than they do.
Then I saw it and just......
It's an edit. Clearly. The edit job is terrible, the rigging is jagged and broken, and about the only good thing is the face and hair which they probably didn't have to make many changes to. That's really disappointing.
If you ever want an avatar in the future, please hit me up. I do completely original work for only $50 more and can promise you better quality.
You kinda got scammed, some of the artists u bought from used other peoples hair and clothes, and they use the TDA styled base that has rules that say you can’t use it for profit
Also insight on the shader thing for the quest, they use mmd shaders and those aren’t supported on the quest
Hey panda! Do you have a video on how to upload your custom avatar to the quest? I want to buy a custom avatar but I’m unsure on how to upload it to my quest
I'm working on a series related to that... Phia has some great tutorials out now that you can check out about that!
Dunno if anyone told you already, but 3:50~ 2nd shirt's avatar doesn't say panda, can't quite read the 4th letter, but should be written: パンダ
It does say Panda. It's English letters designed to look like katakana 😉
so the hex color issue is due to the emission it looks like they had that on with the hair of the avatar
I'm just gonna put this out there but uh,
your avatars look like free deviant art MMD TDA style models.
not in a bad way but I can't unsee TDA
Yeah there was no way to quest optimize without removing features of the 60$ one , the eyes and Haj are able to change because of the shader itself
Exactly! sliders
the 60 one is a steal for this price ngl.
I think the cartoony one is really cute 😭
That last one probably doesn't have bad models, but bad customer service which led to bad models and poorness.
5:37 THEY GAVE YOU YAOI HANDS!!!!!
i am simple, i see fiverr video, i watch, and i like
for me i feel like the 150 dollar avatar's side view seems normal but it was definitely leaning more towards a female kinda anatomy and the artist just tried stretching out the body width for a more masculine image for the front view, but they make him look even more wonky lol
Probably did the same with the neck and the hands and added intense shading to it but lmao kinda looks like a turtle with its neck shrunk back
Like a year ago when this video was made I watched this and then joined vr chat and met the 15 dollar guy
whats the virtual room your in ? DID YOU CREATE IT
Wow the 15 dollar one is suprisingly super good for being only 15 id defintly have the artist do one for me when i get a vr and i want a model
I can't stop staring at the floppy hair 😂
Them some Dennis Rodman hands
Tbh the 15 dollar one is kinda cute
3:51 "I have this shirt here that says 'Panda'"
"アワクロワ" (Awakurowa) (the closest i could get with katakana)
Hate to backseat but *atleast* it could have been パンダ which literally is "Panda"
It's English characters that look Japanese, spelling out Panda in English :)
@@VirtualPandaVR figured, but still
that would be really easy to make quest-
Peek my fiverr ad to draw peoples avatars or DND characters at 1:03 ... holy moly
not even with language barrier an avatar can be that messed up, they weren't trying at all
Pro tip guys,
don't commission on fiverr xd...
How did you pay for them what website did you go to how did you put on vrchat how did you upload them to vrchat
I do commissions starting from 20…. And I add wayyy more than what those models are.. questioning my worth atm
15 avatar looks like my five year old drawing.
I am 19 and i miss my first drawing.
that $150 avatar they really just slapped a TDA face on a more realistic body and called it a day lmao
How did you import the fiver avavtar to vr
Where should I go to get a custom vrchat skin
ugh I have dealt with fivver artists too much.... is VERY rare you get someone good.... I duno about avatars but I have done some graphical assets for other things and its always just a mess....
I know of a few people on Booth and other places, but a lot of the avatar makers I tend toward are furry makers. You're going to spend a little more for a custom furry avatar lol
the 60 doller seller can i have there link cuz there not coming up on fiver for me
The 150 dollar one seems like a poor attempt at slapping random shit they found. Around that price I'd assume 3d artists would begin to create their own assets
I really wanna get into custom avatar making, but first step I have to turn 18... Cant sell stuff online without being 18
the discord link does not work anymore :(
you have more patience then most people lol
I'm probably gonna look for the one that made you the 15 dollar one and ask them cuz that fits my style
this makes me feel less bad about the avatars i create... maybe i should try selling custom avatars for like 15-20 dollars lol
tho theres probably a lot of competition so maybe not, plus i dont have money to buy a bunch of assets
LOL THAT 150 Avatar 😂
congrats on being the video i watch after watching a horror movie
Honestly I like the $15 avatar
what vr model do u use?
Do you need a pc to get a custom avatar
that 150 dollar one is so bad. i've just learnt how to use unity not even a year ago and yet i manage to make avatars that look way better in all ways. you can fix the whole hair clipping problem by adding one single script for a collider, and that's it
My first time im the first View on a video
The last "Artist" was simply fishing cash. That has nothing to do with "I had so many orders in between yada yada". They are just excusing out of nowhere that they took the money up front making you wait. 2-3weeks when they say is fine. Everything else they do about YOUR order is not valid as excuse.
They just went for the victims role. Such people should not even consider pricing themselfes so high imo.
just put my shit to 240 hz and i feel like my curser has motion blur