I used to sell Buffalo shirts. I hope they've improved the quality of the fleece as we decided to stop selling them when they started using a low quality fleece. You could actually see the pertex through gaps in the fleece! Please someone let me know if Buffalo have rectified this. It was a shame, we were the first shop to stock the shirts.
Another great video Paul. I recently completed a 2,193 mile thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail. The east coast of the United States gets a lot of rainfall. The rain gear I used on this 5 1/2 month hike was the Mont-bell Versalite. It kept me dry and warm. An added benefit is they are ultralight. The boots I used are the Lowa Renegade GTX.
It's essential to keep the stuff in your backpack dry but a wet backpack is no fun. If nothing else, it gets heavy. Even with a cover, the west of Scotland weather gets water between your back and the unprotected part of the backpack. For low altitude, summer walking, a poncho that covers the backpack sounds like a good idea as long as it doesn't blow around too much, is scratch-resistant and doesn't weigh too much. I've not seen any that I fancy. Have you tried any that are OK?
Altberg boots, berghaus hillwalker goretex bottoms and keela munro jacket. I agree that bb cap is essential. Also a good base layer such as merino wool makes a massive difference to comfort for any condensation you do get.
REI just did a good film on waterproofs, how to reactivate the DWR coating when it starts to wet out by washing and tumble drying, re proofing when needed and so on.
I love the REI own brand stuff ... mind you with all these travel restrictions I sometimes wonder whether I’ll ever be able to visit a REI store again !
Hello Paul. Thank you for sharing your winter hiking gear knowledge with us. Your videos are very easy to understand and presented well. All the very best mate
Hi from a South African living in Switzerland .. Yep .. Staying Dry. Getting wet from without, within, or both 😊. I belong to a Walking (Nordic) Group and my experience is that during exertion in adverse weather, no matter how 'breathable' the jacket may be, eventually one will get wet / damp. I tend to 'run hot' which further aggravates the 'getting wet from within' bit. Heavy rain, to me, appears to reduce the transfer of internal moisture to the outside. That said, your point on the 'internal micro-climate is valid and as long as one is generating internal heat, all is well. As soon as the rain lets up, I tend to get the rain shell off, thus allowing my inner wicking synthetic layers to dry out .. the Internal Furnace normally keeps me comfortable. I monitor my internal body temp via my little and ring finger tips. When they hurt .. then I'm getting cold and then its time to push up the metabolism or don an outer shell. Spare Dry Clothing .. very important. A lightweight Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Daypack takes care of that .. albeit, notwithstanding the advertised 'dryness of the pack, said clothing also each in their individual plastic Zip-Loc Bags. A good, informative posting .. thanks .. and a 🌹 to your better half who resolutely shares your Wanderings .. bully for her 👍. Take care .. stay safe ..
I use both a light and heavy MVP and MTP British Army Gore-Tex Petroleum Jacket and Trousers, for fishing and hiking, I carry a high viz rucksack cover if I want to be seen, most of the time I don't, IMHO they're great quality and value for money, they do the job as well, if not better than any commercial outdoor brand name, I bought them Brand New, I would highly recommend them to anyone.
I wear glasses so a wide brim hat is essential for rainy hiking. My go to is the Outdoor Research Seattle Sombrero Gore-Tex hat. And yes, I live around Seattle and yes, we do get a lot of rain.
I love the beading effect of a new waterproof, though even when reproofing an overcoat that is starting to 'wet out', I've never been able to recreate that brand new beading effect. Saying that, I've heard the new Mountain Equipment Shake Dry technology goes a long way to addressing this.
I have the Scarpa sl m3 bxx, they’re getting on for 10 years old now & I’ve used Scarpas own HS12 cream to treat them since new, they’re a fantastic boot and well worth the price
Informative video! What do you do if you're already soaking wet when you are pitching your tent? Where do you store your wet clothes when in your tent?
Best overtrousers for me are the Berghaus Paclite Goretex. They pack small and light and when you put them on you hardly notice them. Wore mine this year in driving rain & hail in Cumbria in October and not a drop got through 👍
Enjoying the videos a lot Paul. I’ve used, and still own, a number of top brand waterproof jackets. However, I recently bought a relatively cheap black-friday sale Trespass waterproof with their ‘tres-tex’ version of gore-tex just for a try more than anything, and it is honestly just as good. Plus with the cheaper jacket I’m not overly worried about ripping it or letting the dog sit on it when required!
I use my offshore HH waterproofs and Wellington's in the Scottish Highlands, whether walking or sea kayaking around the Clyde Fjord or Western Islands. I gave up wearing walking boots some twenty years ago in Scotland and as a consequence, have suffered no blisters! In the Sahara; Mauritania, where I am a guide, I wear Merrell sandals and normally get around 50 000 kilometres per pair. I use them in the summer months in Scotland and again have never had blisters. In the Sahara, I of course have sun cracked heels as a consequence of the sun at 45-55'C. Here in Scotland we need to have the clothing for four seasons in one day whilst out in the wilds!
My Berghaus jacket officially gave up the ghost on keeping water out as of today. Not bad going since I got around 10 years out of it......so a well timed video as I now need to sort out which jacket I am going to go after🤔
I also have a Paramo for the worst winter weather. Otherwise my go to jacket for all other times is a Rab Kinetic Plus: a waterproof softshell, very comfortable and breathable. It's light too. I've had it for 2 years now.
@@theknowlodge8294 did you buy the 2020 model? does the 2020 model beta sv have a plain weave or ripstop weave on the exterior fabric? the 2019 beta sv had a ripstop outer fabric and this made it a bit stiff and noisy compared to the plain weave.
@@anthonycoleman1909 it was a kids tv show set in a little town in Scotland full of quirky people and had a catchy theme tune , it was a good few years ago, early 2000.
The variety of gear available today is overwhelming compared to when I first started solo camping on Dartmoor back in the (pre-Goretex) early 70’s. Started out with army surplus gear, then saved up for various goretex models. Then switched over to Paramo gear, which with some TLC are still going strong after 20 years. But in recent years have bought much lighter and cheaper Frogg Toggs for summer hikes, and either Buffalo pertex jacket (spring/autumn) or my Paramo kit in winter. Still hoping for the next major technology breakthrough, which will FINALLY give us the ‘perfect’ waterproof jacket for all year round use...🤞
Se a Ridgeline Monsoon Elite when the weather's really gnarly. Coat length, but very light. Loads of pockets. Wets out, but has a three layer membrane. Never get wet when I'm wearing it 👍🥾
Paul loving the vids, encouragement to get back into the hill, always used to wear buffalo when i was expecting to get wet, waterfall climbing, or a good day out in the peaks.
Nice video Paul and good to promote outdoor adventures when the weather is less than perfect! I currently have Berghaus waterproof kit - a Pro shell jacket and the Hillwalker trousers. I only use the waterproofs if absolutely necessary as they do make you overheat and sweat very quickly. That being said, the other day I did an all day walk in the Hillwalker trousers and I kept totally dry with n moisture build up inside. We don't have the high peaks in the Cotswolds that you have further north so I don't really need a serious mountain jacket although it can still be very bleak out there in the winter time. The other important thing about having a decent jacket is that it will be windproof and often that can be essential to staying warm. Agree 100% with your comment on the boots - if you walk decent distances good boots are essential in my view, not just for keeping feet dry but for comfort. You need to pair them with good quality hiking socks - my favourites are Bridgedale. Not the cheapest but brilliant socks that enable all day walking with zero blisters.
I’ve just got some fairly cheap Decathlon waterproofs but kept me dry this afternoon having gone for a cycle and stoped for some food on the jet boil then it rained all the way back.
Very useful comments on jacket materials. Gaiters are useful in all weathers, if like me you kick small stones into your boots all the time. Take good care of Mrs M.
Buffalo jackets, Berghaus trousers, same Extremities gaiters as you (first used them when I was in the Army, on exercise), boots are Adidas / Salomon. Base layers are Gore Wear or Craft. Normal trousers are Craghopper Kiwi in 2 grades, depending on the season. One has a mid-leg zip, so can be used as shorts as well.
Bought some Army Gortex, 10 years ago, for the average raining hike, not 100% waterproof, but also quick to dry, if it is really chucking it, then Frogg Toggs, but they are very fragile, so not great with a heavy rucksack.
Adding to kit list..I have just purchased the new paramo evolution smock..absolutely fantastic but at 330 golden nuggets it needs to be.. paramo trousers.. osprey talon 33l pack and salomon gtx 4 boots always now my goto kit..
@@PaulMessner I'm fine, thanks. I hope you are well too! I can't travel far away, so working with the app already and trying to stay positive :))) Cheers!
I'm onto my second pair of Scarpa SL M3. After these, I'll get something different because although I take care of them, they f**k too easily. Leather coming away at the rand. Good vid 👍
Good vid, like the shots around pack horse bridge. I have several RAB jackets all of them worth the money, but I would recommend investing in a good base/wicking layer, that’s what keeps me from feeling clammy.
Great advice, just one query on the paramo - i have one, (paramo analogy directional system), i dont think the water gets to my actual skin, did i hear that right? - maybe through the first layer, then back out as you describe, or is yours a single layer, not double layer like mine. I was pleased to see your other gear is exactly what i use - from scarpa boots through to the cap under the hood! One old motorbikers tip i have used for decades - keep a plaggy bag handy - put your muddy boot in it before you put leggings on - stops boot snagging on the inside of the leggings, and keeps them clean.
I use Zpacks in the summer because of it breathability and slim fit. In the winter I use marmot, it’s a little heavier fabric but does the same thing as the Zpacks versilite. Both have pit zips to help ventilate when I’m getting to warm.
Try hicking here mate , have every thing here . Mountains , forest , lakes , rivers , sun , rain , snow . Bears , deer , moose. all kinds . Canada . Have a good day mate .
@@indochinajames3372 Moose and bears are magnifigante creatures , seeing them in the wild is an adventure. In it's self . Anyway , I thouht we were comparing Indonesia to Canada .Why did You bring up UK ?
@@donaldmichaellumsden2714 I don't live in Indonesia. I live in Vietnam. Which is part of Indochina. I'm British through and through and go back every winter and Paul's videos are helping get through this winter as unfortunately I've been unable to get back this year for obvious reasons.
@@donaldmichaellumsden2714 so when I say we I refer to us British. So am comparing UK to Canada . And I did admit the mountains of Canada easily beat the ones in the UK. If you read my original comment properly you'll see.
@@indochinajames3372 you did not say anything about UK in your 1st note . I have read it 3 times . you talked about how nice Idonisia was . Shall I quote you word for word ? And you will never be British , no matter how long you live there .
I highly rate Decathlon...especially their Simond mountaineering range...high quality kit for half the price of leading brands! Something that's surprised me of late...is how good Adidas hiking boots/shoes are now...laughed it off when someone recommend them, but gave them a try, bought a pair and wear them all the time now...and I swear by Scarpa's! Great vid Paul👍
I think you've got your new intro for every video now Paul... 0:27 Edit: Really good delivery and edit, all the info but not all at once in a short video. Also, them shots on the 360 are really cool, almost drone like the way you handle it.
Have you ever considered walking poles, as you look a bit like a toddler when walking on anything other than flat ground-they might improve your foot placement and confidence on rougher terrain Paul😃👍🏼
I'm still using an eons old Berghaus Mera Peak jacket - think it must be nearly 15yrs old now , just gets washed and reproofed as needed each season , not keen on waterproof trousers as never found any that are truly comfortable to walk in . Boots again an ancient pair of Brasher...still got great tread , just keep proofing them ...am starting to look at replacements though...
My problem with every waterproof I’ve worn during any kind of active hobbies is that I’m always as wet by my own sweat as I would have been from the actual rain. (Also with goretex for those fanboys) so I now just carry the cheapest durable waterproof I could find from the local “Hema”. It also functions as my multi purpose ground cloth.
Get a gaberdine smock windproof British military ones are the best and cheap as chips I even sprayed mine with fabasil and it's taken several soakings no problem and can take quite a heavy downpour and dries very quickly, I'm the same Gortex is great if you're not moving etc
@@Jonsoh811 personally I run very hot, so unless it's getting towards seriously cold temperatures I tend to almost always have a thin t-shirt under my waterproof layer. I tend to have a length of webbing close at hand to use as a scarf if I'm getting slightly cold but that's usually it tbh.
@@Jonsoh811 you should almost always start off your hike cold as well, because after 10mins or so you always warm up loads, so if you're starting the hike off comfortable then you're usually setting yourself up for a fall
@@PaulMessner I’ve just brought a Helikon poncho in woodland .. Awesome ..got its own little sack .. hope I’ve not got use it lol .. cheers Chris & Sam
I've never in recent times experienced a truly waterproof jacket and trousers. I always seem to end up wet to the skin even with my top end Berghaus Extreme kit despite reproofing.
when you are sweating hard there arent really any waterproofs that will keep you dry, if the weather is bad enough water will get in, as for COMFORT in sideways rain up a big hill i never found anything better than my paramo jacket. only downside is if the weather is mild they are a bit warm.
@@leetshots yes I agree - only waterproofs I can recall that were great was a long, almost poncho style waterproof jacket I had aged about 14 in the scouts. Could wear it with shorts and wellies so stayed dry even when standing around in the rain on camp for hours
I've never had a pair of Goretex boots or clothes that actually kept proper relentless water out. I'm just getting leather boots next time - my mate got some Scarpas same as yours for £200 and he loves them. I got some Salomon Ultra 3 mid tops in wide fit and while they're the comfiest, lightest things I've ever had on my feet, a few miles through boggy ground and the tops of my feet were damp. Always seems to be the top of the toebox of Goretex fabric boots that let the water in, even after a lot of proofing. Maybe I'm just unlucky and keep getting shite boots. Other problem is I have really wide feet, which makes finding a good fit exceptionally hard, especially in lockdown. On a 14 mile hike up some mountains in the lakes near Brothers Water the other month, the only bit of kit that kept me bone dry was a Regatta pack-a-mac I impulse bought as a spare from The Range lol. Oh and an "Otter" waterproof beanie I found on the floor at work.
Great video Paul. Like you, I love the Paramo jackets for winter or cold days otherwise far too warm. I have a Rab Spark jacket with Pertex shield, not that impressed. Saving up for another Goretex jacket atm
Hi Paul, love your videos and learn so much from you! Where is this beautiful that you filmed this? And which month was it? Helps us to plan for our next hike. Thanks!
That was an interesting piece of kit that came out of the pack to sit on. What was it? Thats the one thing i cant seem to find is a waterproof padded item to sit on in all weathers.
I have the MTP Goretex army over trousers with the full length side zippers, great quality and reliable, cost me £12 for a lightly used pair, only down side is no belt loops though am looking to get the hooded MTP Goretex Jacket for fishing, some have pit zips which is essential in the UK imo. Am betting they will outlast some of the expensive branded kit too, a great starting point for reliable kit on a budget, admittedly its not as smart or light as the branded stuff but around 80% cheaper by comparison. Also looking at the MOD Altberg Defender boots for cold winter use as they seem to get ok reviews and should be warmer than the Merrel Flex boots I have atm though they are good for 3 season use. Also picked up a heavily discounted Mountain Equipment Odyssey - jacket on fleabay which is cut very well and proving reliable at around half the weight of my Berghaus Hillwalker which I now mostly use for cold/wet weather casual wear as it lacks pit zips.
Sealskinz... I swear by Sealskinz.. Try their socks and their gloves. Even when the water comes over the tops of your boots, your feet stay bone dry.. and they breathe just fine too 👍🏼
I tried this a few months ago in the lakes - brand new pair of sealskinz socks with normal non-waterproof boots as it was that bad the night before my Goretex boots were wet through. They lasted a good hour or so before my feet were absolutely soaked. The only thing I'll say for them is at least the merino wool kept my feet nice and warm for the next 14 miles, even if they were saturated.
Informative as always. Just checking shouldn’t you wear your gaiters underneath your rain pants though….? Won’t the rain just run down the pants….. walking trousers over and rain pants under…
Hey Paul. Try the rab eco downpour waterproof trousers. Best breathable and Waterproof trousers out there in my opinion. I got mine from go outdoors and saved £50 on price match at the till. Bargain
Hello Paul, this was really interesting! I was wondering what you would recommend instead of a Paramo for winter use? I have a nice staff discount at the shop I work in, but we don't sell Paramo currently. Would you say a Pertex jacket and another heavier one is all you need for year round use? Love your videos and great to see Derwent featured!
Great video paul, i use the same waterproof trousers Berghaus Deluge teamed with a cap and a Mountain Equipment Rupal. Never thought of using gaiters but you've given me something to think about there. Thanks again John 👍
I'm doing the west highland way in April. Will be covering the route over 5 days and staying in bunkhouses. Could you give me an idea what to take clothes gear wise. Would J be better wearing boots or shoes? Or taking both? As for a rucksack, would 55l be suitable? Thanks 😊
Aww lovely Jo, what a top lass you've got there Paul. Lovely couple. Thanks for the tips. Would love to see you two doing a long distance hike..go onnnnnnn :-)
I like Buffalo shirts, you stay warm and made in Sheffield!
I used to sell Buffalo shirts. I hope they've improved the quality of the fleece as we decided to stop selling them when they started using a low quality fleece. You could actually see the pertex through gaps in the fleece! Please someone let me know if Buffalo have rectified this. It was a shame, we were the first shop to stock the shirts.
Another great video Paul. I recently completed a 2,193 mile thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail. The east coast of the United States gets a lot of rainfall. The rain gear I used on this 5 1/2 month hike was the Mont-bell Versalite. It kept me dry and warm. An added benefit is they are ultralight. The boots I used are the Lowa Renegade GTX.
There's something so calming in your voice, outdoors, real weather that's really helping me at 5:30am, woken up with headache etc.
Something very enjoyable about your videos. Very honest, no bs, no performance. 👍
It's essential to keep the stuff in your backpack dry but a wet backpack is no fun. If nothing else, it gets heavy. Even with a cover, the west of Scotland weather gets water between your back and the unprotected part of the backpack. For low altitude, summer walking, a poncho that covers the backpack sounds like a good idea as long as it doesn't blow around too much, is scratch-resistant and doesn't weigh too much. I've not seen any that I fancy. Have you tried any that are OK?
Nice video guys I like love hiking I have waterproof jacket for fishig its 100% Good but too hot hehe
I love hiking in the rain! Thanks for sharing
Altberg boots, berghaus hillwalker goretex bottoms and keela munro jacket. I agree that bb cap is essential. Also a good base layer such as merino wool makes a massive difference to comfort for any condensation you do get.
I think Goretex is bollocks but merino wool is incredible stuff.
Swazi, I was introduced to it in Scotland and was sceptical about spending the money.....worth every penny!
REI just did a good film on waterproofs, how to reactivate the DWR coating when it starts to wet out by washing and tumble drying, re proofing when needed and so on.
I love the REI own brand stuff ... mind you with all these travel restrictions I sometimes wonder whether
I’ll ever be able to visit a REI store again !
On their website?
So much great info in your videos Paul, I have to watch them twice !
Hello Paul. Thank you for sharing your winter hiking gear knowledge with us. Your videos are very easy to understand and presented well. All the very best mate
Hi from a South African living in Switzerland ..
Yep .. Staying Dry. Getting wet from without, within, or both 😊.
I belong to a Walking (Nordic) Group and my experience is that during exertion in adverse weather, no matter how 'breathable' the jacket may be, eventually one will get wet / damp. I tend to 'run hot' which further aggravates the 'getting wet from within' bit. Heavy rain, to me, appears to reduce the transfer of internal moisture to the outside.
That said, your point on the 'internal micro-climate is valid and as long as one is generating internal heat, all is well. As soon as the rain lets up, I tend to get the rain shell off, thus allowing my inner wicking synthetic layers to dry out .. the Internal Furnace normally keeps me comfortable. I monitor my internal body temp via my little and ring finger tips. When they hurt .. then I'm getting cold and then its time to push up the metabolism or don an outer shell.
Spare Dry Clothing .. very important. A lightweight Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Daypack takes care of that .. albeit, notwithstanding the advertised 'dryness of the pack, said clothing also each in their individual plastic Zip-Loc Bags.
A good, informative posting .. thanks .. and a 🌹 to your better half who resolutely shares your Wanderings .. bully for her 👍.
Take care .. stay safe ..
I use both a light and heavy MVP and MTP British Army Gore-Tex Petroleum Jacket and Trousers, for fishing and hiking, I carry a high viz rucksack cover if I want to be seen, most of the time I don't, IMHO they're great quality and value for money, they do the job as well, if not better than any commercial outdoor brand name, I bought them Brand New, I would highly recommend them to anyone.
I wear glasses so a wide brim hat is essential for rainy hiking. My go to is the Outdoor Research Seattle Sombrero Gore-Tex hat. And yes, I live around Seattle and yes, we do get a lot of rain.
I love the beading effect of a new waterproof, though even when reproofing an overcoat that is starting to 'wet out', I've never been able to recreate that brand new beading effect. Saying that, I've heard the new Mountain Equipment Shake Dry technology goes a long way to addressing this.
mountain equimpent's Lhotse jacket is amazing, i got one for £250 brand new, will never use another waterproof jacket
I have the Scarpa sl m3 bxx, they’re getting on for 10 years old now & I’ve used Scarpas own HS12 cream to treat them since new, they’re a fantastic boot and well worth the price
Informative video! What do you do if you're already soaking wet when you are pitching your tent? Where do you store your wet clothes when in your tent?
Best overtrousers for me are the Berghaus Paclite Goretex. They pack small and light and when you put them on you hardly notice them. Wore mine this year in driving rain & hail in Cumbria in October and not a drop got through 👍
Paul spends so much time outdoors that his never had the time to buy a meal deal
Enjoying the videos a lot Paul. I’ve used, and still own, a number of top brand waterproof jackets. However, I recently bought a relatively cheap black-friday sale Trespass waterproof with their ‘tres-tex’ version of gore-tex just for a try more than anything, and it is honestly just as good. Plus with the cheaper jacket I’m not overly worried about ripping it or letting the dog sit on it when required!
I use my offshore HH waterproofs and Wellington's in the Scottish Highlands, whether walking or sea kayaking around the Clyde Fjord or Western Islands. I gave up wearing walking boots some twenty years ago in Scotland and as a consequence, have suffered no blisters! In the Sahara; Mauritania, where I am a guide, I wear Merrell sandals and normally get around 50 000 kilometres per pair. I use them in the summer months in Scotland and again have never had blisters. In the Sahara, I of course have sun cracked heels as a consequence of the sun at 45-55'C. Here in Scotland we need to have the clothing for four seasons in one day whilst out in the wilds!
How do you prevent stones getting all over your feet when using sandals?
Nothing but storms up North here in Inverclyde, can't wait for the cold to get camping. All the best 👌
My Berghaus jacket officially gave up the ghost on keeping water out as of today. Not bad going since I got around 10 years out of it......so a well timed video as I now need to sort out which jacket I am going to go after🤔
@@The_Summit_Wanderer will give that a look thanks. Is it warm? I need something that isn’t too warm cause I tend to run a bit warm when hiking.
I also have a Paramo for the worst winter weather. Otherwise my go to jacket for all other times is a Rab Kinetic Plus: a waterproof softshell, very comfortable and breathable. It's light too. I've had it for 2 years now.
Paramo for me, pajaro jacket, cascada over trousers.
wash then reproof. good as new.
Good to see the pair of you grabbing some air, regards L.
@@theknowlodge8294 did you buy the 2020 model? does the 2020 model beta sv have a plain weave or ripstop weave on the exterior fabric? the 2019 beta sv had a ripstop outer fabric and this made it a bit stiff and noisy compared to the plain weave.
correction the 2019 best sv has plain weave while the 2019 beta ar has ripstop
Always well prepared Paul great kit , your a lucky man the missus would be great on Ballymorry , she has a lovely smile , love the videos.
What is Ballymorry?
@@anthonycoleman1909 it was a kids tv show set in a little town in Scotland full of quirky people and had a catchy theme tune , it was a good few years ago, early 2000.
@@Observationistx thanks for that. Never heard of it here in Australia
Filmed on the Isle of Mull. At Tobermory. Hence the name balamorey. I’ve been it’s an amazing place. Mull not just Tobermory 👌
The variety of gear available today is overwhelming compared to when I first started solo camping on Dartmoor back in the (pre-Goretex) early 70’s.
Started out with army surplus gear, then saved up for various goretex models. Then switched over to Paramo gear, which with some TLC are still going strong after 20 years.
But in recent years have bought much lighter and cheaper Frogg Toggs for summer hikes, and either Buffalo pertex jacket (spring/autumn) or my Paramo kit in winter.
Still hoping for the next major technology breakthrough, which will FINALLY give us the ‘perfect’ waterproof jacket for all year round use...🤞
Keela military jackets are also great quality and keep you dry in anything and you dont end up soaked from sweat either which is a win win.
Mountain Equipment Lhotse jacket. Amazing piece of kit, highly waterproof and highly breathable 👍
Good informative video again.
I have the mountain equipment Lhotse, expensive but in the last 2 yrs, no water issues at all
I’ve got that coat. Best thing I ever bought. 👍
let me guess, it's a lhotse of money upfront but worth in the end.
i use a paramo alter 3 jacket and velez trousers, works great! ( as long as it's not summer)
Se a Ridgeline Monsoon Elite when the weather's really gnarly. Coat length, but very light. Loads of pockets. Wets out, but has a three layer membrane. Never get wet when I'm wearing it 👍🥾
Gotta love mrs Messner :D
I have an old Paramo summer lightweight jacket, for summer and winter, well worth the money over the years, nothing compares
Great video Paul, good bit of filming& lovely bit of wind & rain, thanks for sharing
I was just looking for some videos on the Rab waterproof jacket and of course Paul The Man Messner has a video on it. Cheers mate!
Paul loving the vids, encouragement to get back into the hill, always used to wear buffalo when i was expecting to get wet, waterfall climbing, or a good day out in the peaks.
Nice video Paul and good to promote outdoor adventures when the weather is less than perfect! I currently have Berghaus waterproof kit - a Pro shell jacket and the Hillwalker trousers. I only use the waterproofs if absolutely necessary as they do make you overheat and sweat very quickly. That being said, the other day I did an all day walk in the Hillwalker trousers and I kept totally dry with n moisture build up inside. We don't have the high peaks in the Cotswolds that you have further north so I don't really need a serious mountain jacket although it can still be very bleak out there in the winter time. The other important thing about having a decent jacket is that it will be windproof and often that can be essential to staying warm. Agree 100% with your comment on the boots - if you walk decent distances good boots are essential in my view, not just for keeping feet dry but for comfort. You need to pair them with good quality hiking socks - my favourites are Bridgedale. Not the cheapest but brilliant socks that enable all day walking with zero blisters.
I’ve just got some fairly cheap Decathlon waterproofs but kept me dry this afternoon having gone for a cycle and stoped for some food on the jet boil then it rained all the way back.
Very useful comments on jacket materials. Gaiters are useful in all weathers, if like me you kick small stones into your boots all the time. Take good care of Mrs M.
I love the Autumn colours of the Derwent area.
Buffalo jackets, Berghaus trousers, same Extremities gaiters as you (first used them when I was in the Army, on exercise), boots are Adidas / Salomon. Base layers are Gore Wear or Craft. Normal trousers are Craghopper Kiwi in 2 grades, depending on the season. One has a mid-leg zip, so can be used as shorts as well.
luv your video
luv the views
and all tbe information
about your waterproof
clothing.
take care.
Bought some Army Gortex, 10 years ago, for the average raining hike, not 100% waterproof, but also quick to dry, if it is really chucking it, then Frogg Toggs, but they are very fragile, so not great with a heavy rucksack.
Yeah great video again Paul /Jo love the orange paramo all the best guys take care stay safe 👍🏕️
Thanks, will do!
Adding to kit list..I have just purchased the new paramo evolution smock..absolutely fantastic but at 330 golden nuggets it needs to be.. paramo trousers.. osprey talon 33l pack and salomon gtx 4 boots always now my goto kit..
Thumbs up for the waterproof kilt!!!!! :))) I didn't know such combination exists...
Cheers Ed. Hope you are keeping well my friend
@@PaulMessner I'm fine, thanks. I hope you are well too! I can't travel far away, so working with the app already and trying to stay positive :))) Cheers!
Great video thank you
Nike air max 90s there winter boots are comfy rain proof when sprayed and do the job 👍
I have a Mountain Equipment Rupal and it kept my dry throughout my gold D of E expedition
Re gaiters, I find ankle ones a good compromise.
I'm onto my second pair of Scarpa SL M3. After these, I'll get something different because although I take care of them, they f**k too easily. Leather coming away at the rand.
Good vid 👍
Loved this video very much Pauly, very different to your normal videos. I learnt a lot here and thank you
You got a way there to know how to express the ideas.... I use a Coleman poncho. I got wet expending my tolerances.
Really like the Pertex Shield Rab gear - Mountain Outfitters is always good for waterproofs!
Awesome video and views you film at great places
Thanks for the very informative info!! Love the views;)
Always thought the area near the old bridge would be ideal for a wild camp 🏕
Up at Howden dam I see nice part off the Peak District 👍👍
I really need to improve my footwear, maybe santa will be good to me this Christmas 🎅
Good vid, like the shots around pack horse bridge. I have several RAB jackets all of them worth the money, but I would recommend investing in a good base/wicking layer, that’s what keeps me from feeling clammy.
Great advice, just one query on the paramo - i have one, (paramo analogy directional system), i dont think the water gets to my actual skin, did i hear that right? - maybe through the first layer, then back out as you describe, or is yours a single layer, not double layer like mine. I was pleased to see your other gear is exactly what i use - from scarpa boots through to the cap under the hood!
One old motorbikers tip i have used for decades - keep a plaggy bag handy - put your muddy boot in it before you put leggings on - stops boot snagging on the inside of the leggings, and keeps them clean.
I use Zpacks in the summer because of it breathability and slim fit. In the winter I use marmot, it’s a little heavier fabric but does the same thing as the Zpacks versilite. Both have pit zips to help ventilate when I’m getting to warm.
Try hicking here mate , have every thing here .
Mountains , forest , lakes , rivers , sun , rain , snow .
Bears , deer , moose. all kinds .
Canada .
Have a good day mate .
@@indochinajames3372
Moose and bears are magnifigante creatures , seeing them in the wild is an adventure. In it's self .
Anyway , I thouht we were comparing Indonesia to Canada .Why did You bring up UK ?
@@indochinajames3372
I doubt you have anything like the Yokon .
Anyway , We were talking about.
Indonesia vs Canada , Why did you bring up UK ?
@@donaldmichaellumsden2714 I don't live in Indonesia. I live in Vietnam. Which is part of Indochina. I'm British through and through and go back every winter and Paul's videos are helping get through this winter as unfortunately I've been unable to get back this year for obvious reasons.
@@donaldmichaellumsden2714 so when I say we I refer to us British. So am comparing UK to Canada . And I did admit the mountains of Canada easily beat the ones in the UK. If you read my original comment properly you'll see.
@@indochinajames3372
you did not say anything about UK in your 1st note .
I have read it 3 times .
you talked about how nice Idonisia was .
Shall I quote you word for word ?
And you will never be British , no matter how long you live there .
What about shorts instead of al the waterproof trousers etc?
I highly rate Decathlon...especially their Simond mountaineering range...high quality kit for half the price of leading brands! Something that's surprised me of late...is how good Adidas hiking boots/shoes are now...laughed it off when someone recommend them, but gave them a try, bought a pair and wear them all the time now...and I swear by Scarpa's! Great vid Paul👍
Totally agree on the Adidas stuff. I actually use some of their trail running shoes for light hikes and they are an ultra lightweight solution.
I think you've got your new intro for every video now Paul... 0:27
Edit: Really good delivery and edit, all the info but not all at once in a short video. Also, them shots on the 360 are really cool, almost drone like the way you handle it.
My biggest problem is I resist putting my waterproof jacket on get damp and then turn the inside of my jacket into a steam bath.
yeh-stop doing that....
Have you ever considered walking poles, as you look a bit like a toddler when walking on anything other than flat ground-they might improve your foot placement and confidence on rougher terrain Paul😃👍🏼
I'm still using an eons old Berghaus Mera Peak jacket - think it must be nearly 15yrs old now , just gets washed and reproofed as needed each season , not keen on waterproof trousers as never found any that are truly comfortable to walk in . Boots again an ancient pair of Brasher...still got great tread , just keep proofing them ...am starting to look at replacements though...
I don't mind walking in the rain, but I need to improve my rain gear, not always a priority in Australia
My problem with every waterproof I’ve worn during any kind of active hobbies is that I’m always as wet by my own sweat as I would have been from the actual rain. (Also with goretex for those fanboys) so I now just carry the cheapest durable waterproof I could find from the local “Hema”. It also functions as my multi purpose ground cloth.
Get a gaberdine smock windproof British military ones are the best and cheap as chips I even sprayed mine with fabasil and it's taken several soakings no problem and can take quite a heavy downpour and dries very quickly, I'm the same Gortex is great if you're not moving etc
if youre sweating enough to make you wet inside its not the waterproof thats at fault but the way you're layering usually
@@MudgeMiester what would be a good layering? Because I’ve tried many combinations, fabrics, etc. Same result.
@@Jonsoh811 personally I run very hot, so unless it's getting towards seriously cold temperatures I tend to almost always have a thin t-shirt under my waterproof layer. I tend to have a length of webbing close at hand to use as a scarf if I'm getting slightly cold but that's usually it tbh.
@@Jonsoh811 you should almost always start off your hike cold as well, because after 10mins or so you always warm up loads, so if you're starting the hike off comfortable then you're usually setting yourself up for a fall
Awesome Paul .. I like Rab stuff .. your hat is great .. luvit .. leave no trace .. brilliant .. cheers Chris & Sam
Thank you. The leave no trace is a great message to get out to people. Proving very popular too. Rab gear is very good. I have a fair bit now.
@@PaulMessner I’ve just brought a Helikon poncho in woodland .. Awesome ..got its own little sack .. hope I’ve not got use it lol .. cheers Chris & Sam
I've never in recent times experienced a truly waterproof jacket and trousers. I always seem to end up wet to the skin even with my top end Berghaus Extreme kit despite reproofing.
when you are sweating hard there arent really any waterproofs that will keep you dry, if the weather is bad enough water will get in, as for COMFORT in sideways rain up a big hill i never found anything better than my paramo jacket. only downside is if the weather is mild they are a bit warm.
@@leetshots yes I agree - only waterproofs I can recall that were great was a long, almost poncho style waterproof jacket I had aged about 14 in the scouts. Could wear it with shorts and wellies so stayed dry even when standing around in the rain on camp for hours
I've never had a pair of Goretex boots or clothes that actually kept proper relentless water out. I'm just getting leather boots next time - my mate got some Scarpas same as yours for £200 and he loves them. I got some Salomon Ultra 3 mid tops in wide fit and while they're the comfiest, lightest things I've ever had on my feet, a few miles through boggy ground and the tops of my feet were damp. Always seems to be the top of the toebox of Goretex fabric boots that let the water in, even after a lot of proofing. Maybe I'm just unlucky and keep getting shite boots.
Other problem is I have really wide feet, which makes finding a good fit exceptionally hard, especially in lockdown.
On a 14 mile hike up some mountains in the lakes near Brothers Water the other month, the only bit of kit that kept me bone dry was a Regatta pack-a-mac I impulse bought as a spare from The Range lol. Oh and an "Otter" waterproof beanie I found on the floor at work.
Great video Paul. Like you, I love the Paramo jackets for winter or cold days otherwise far too warm. I have a Rab Spark jacket with Pertex shield, not that impressed. Saving up for another Goretex jacket atm
Paul my friend , please advise where this walk was ? I'd imagine it's close to myself . Keep the content coming
Looks like Howden reservoir, crossing the bridge at the top. Am I right?
I’m sure we walked past you on Saturday at Howden/derwent reservoir, we said hello and then after we passed I said to the Mrs I recognise him 😂
That’s the day. Maybe catch you next time.
Nice video Paul, really interesting to see the type of waterproof clothing you are using. Appropriate for this time of year mate 👍🏻
Hi Paul, love your videos and learn so much from you! Where is this beautiful that you filmed this? And which month was it? Helps us to plan for our next hike. Thanks!
That was an interesting piece of kit that came out of the pack to sit on. What was it? Thats the one thing i cant seem to find is a waterproof padded item to sit on in all weathers.
Great video as ever pal! Gaiters are a must in the wet weather! No-one needs muddy pants! Ha Ha 👍 ATB JD
I have the MTP Goretex army over trousers with the full length side zippers, great quality and reliable, cost me £12 for a lightly used pair, only down side is no belt loops though am looking to get the hooded MTP Goretex Jacket for fishing, some have pit zips which is essential in the UK imo. Am betting they will outlast some of the expensive branded kit too, a great starting point for reliable kit on a budget, admittedly its not as smart or light as the branded stuff but around 80% cheaper by comparison. Also looking at the MOD Altberg Defender boots for cold winter use as they seem to get ok reviews and should be warmer than the Merrel Flex boots I have atm though they are good for 3 season use.
Also picked up a heavily discounted Mountain Equipment Odyssey - jacket on fleabay which is cut very well and proving reliable at around half the weight of my Berghaus Hillwalker which I now mostly use for cold/wet weather casual wear as it lacks pit zips.
Sealskinz... I swear by Sealskinz.. Try their socks and their gloves. Even when the water comes over the tops of your boots, your feet stay bone dry.. and they breathe just fine too 👍🏼
I've got the gloves mate and been looking at the socks so glad to see this comment
I tried this a few months ago in the lakes - brand new pair of sealskinz socks with normal non-waterproof boots as it was that bad the night before my Goretex boots were wet through. They lasted a good hour or so before my feet were absolutely soaked. The only thing I'll say for them is at least the merino wool kept my feet nice and warm for the next 14 miles, even if they were saturated.
Informative as always. Just checking shouldn’t you wear your gaiters underneath your rain pants though….? Won’t the rain just run down the pants….. walking trousers over and rain pants under…
Hey Paul. Try the rab eco downpour waterproof trousers. Best breathable and Waterproof trousers out there in my opinion. I got mine from go outdoors and saved £50 on price match at the till. Bargain
Lhotse and the paramo velez smock are my 2 that I have.
Dood that’s nuts!
Hey bro wat camera r u using
As usual quality mate.. keep thinking I'd bump into you as always walking derwent etc winhill...Sheffield side
cant go far wrong with paramo either!
Just stumbled across your account, watched a few videos and really like your content
Hello Paul, this was really interesting! I was wondering what you would recommend instead of a Paramo for winter use? I have a nice staff discount at the shop I work in, but we don't sell Paramo currently. Would you say a Pertex jacket and another heavier one is all you need for year round use? Love your videos and great to see Derwent featured!
Great video paul, i use the same waterproof trousers Berghaus Deluge teamed with a cap and a Mountain Equipment Rupal. Never thought of using gaiters but you've given me something to think about there.
Thanks again
John 👍
Hint. The gaiters go underneath the waterproof pants 👍
@@AndyWardle cheers Andy 👍can't wait to get "back out"
@@johnseagraves8700 same here. Dying inside 😂
Love the vids paul
:-) 4 to 5 season boots, when's the 5th season due? ;-). Bomber boots though all the same
I'm doing the west highland way in April. Will be covering the route over 5 days and staying in bunkhouses. Could you give me an idea what to take clothes gear wise. Would J be better wearing boots or shoes? Or taking both? As for a rucksack, would 55l be suitable? Thanks 😊
Aww lovely Jo, what a top lass you've got there Paul. Lovely couple. Thanks for the tips. Would love to see you two doing a long distance hike..go onnnnnnn :-)
Jo signed us up to the Mighty Hike again for June so plenty of training to come.
Karrimor weathertite 3in1 is pretty good.