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  • "In The Loop" presented by Jake Archibald at JSConf.Asia 2018
    Have you ever had a bug where things were happening in the wrong order, or particular style changes were being ignored? Ever fixed that bug by wrapping a section of code in a setTimeout? Ever found that fix to be unreliable, and played around with the timeout number until it kinda almost always worked?
    This talk looks at the browser's event loop, the thing that orchestrates the main thread of the browser, which includes JavaScript, events, and rendering. We'll look at the difference between tasks, microtasks, requestAnimationFrame, requestIdleCallback, and where events land.
    Hopefully you'll never have to use setTimeout hacks again!"
    Jake is developer advocate for Google Chrome. He's one of the editors of the service worker spec, so he's into offline-first, push messaging and web performance.
    JSConf.Asia - Capitol Theatre, Singapore - 27 January 2018
    Source: 2018.jsconf.asia/
    License: For reuse of this video under a more permissive license please get in touch with us. The speakers retain the copyright for their performances.
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  • @The9TKitsune
    @The9TKitsune 5 років тому +2456

    When you want to be a stand up comedian and life makes you a JS expert

    • @eritreanism
      @eritreanism 4 роки тому +15

      on point :)

    • @oleksii208
      @oleksii208 4 роки тому +7

      hahahahah

    • @markmhaslam
      @markmhaslam 4 роки тому +61

      Seriously! He's super funny. I would honestly love to watch him do stand-up.

    • @LethiuxX
      @LethiuxX 3 роки тому +37

      Comedy is his hobby, it seems.

    • @perfect.stealth
      @perfect.stealth 3 роки тому +2

      Lmao

  • @ronniesunshine1163
    @ronniesunshine1163 3 роки тому +897

    Tough crowd, this is probably one of the best programming talks I've ever listened to

    • @ReachByteBurst
      @ReachByteBurst 2 роки тому +1

      true

    • @stefanplusplus917
      @stefanplusplus917 2 роки тому

      what do yo mean with tough crowd?

    • @andy_lamax
      @andy_lamax 2 роки тому +10

      I agree. This was a tough crowd

    • @bro...5849
      @bro...5849 Рік тому +31

      @@stefanplusplus917 he means the crowd is difficult to make laugh

    • @TheMandySpace
      @TheMandySpace Рік тому +17

      I was there, more people laughed than you think. :D But i agree it is one of the best talks Ive ever seen

  • @anonwithamnesia
    @anonwithamnesia 4 роки тому +2354

    Who is here because of Fireship?

  • @buddhaburrito
    @buddhaburrito 3 роки тому +282

    Jake is a truly genius presenter, sliding in jokes in between heavy subjects (like microtasks) so that audience can take mental rests

  • @Nyromancer
    @Nyromancer 6 років тому +1008

    Humour is his hobby I guess. At least I find him funny, tough crowd...

    • @jakearchibald
      @jakearchibald 6 років тому +127

      In standup gigs they mic the audience too. They were more alive than the video suggests (but still pretty quiet)

    • @JAlexanderCurtis
      @JAlexanderCurtis 5 років тому +24

      Yeah I actually found his jokes to be pretty funny. I at least chuckled at most of them. My guess is the audience might have been giggling and chuckling too, but the laughter wasn't picked up by his lav mic. At 18:30 when he talks about the fizzy water, it's dead silent, but the way he rifted on it for a second indicates that he was probably getting a decent response from the audience.

    • @Litonfiredesign
      @Litonfiredesign 5 років тому +5

      @@JAlexanderCurtis Thats him that you responded too ;-) Great work on the presentation @jake quality. Thanks for your efforts.

    • @utsavprabhakar5072
      @utsavprabhakar5072 5 років тому +5

      @@jakearchibald Thanks for this !

    • @erikachurchman9417
      @erikachurchman9417 4 роки тому

      wow

  • @JaLikon65
    @JaLikon65 11 місяців тому +19

    Why on earth did people not stand up and cheer after this! This is EASILY the best talk I've ever seen on the JS event loop and related topics. Seriously, it takes other resources like 20x the time to explain this, and this is arguably more thorough then a lot of other resources. Just hats off man, WOW is this good.

  • @SamiullahKhan
    @SamiullahKhan 6 років тому +129

    He really hit the core of the event loop. Something that is so important to get hold of tasks, micro tasks.

  • @dakedres
    @dakedres 4 роки тому +26

    I love how it feels like he's going on completely unrelated tangents but it always seemlessly transitions back into the main idea

  • @atticoos
    @atticoos 6 років тому +209

    Hot damn, Jake.. this is one of the best talks I've seen. Well done.

  • @vishnusingh4118
    @vishnusingh4118 4 роки тому +157

    7:08 Task Queues
    8:55 render steps
    12:15 hence the timeOut loop is not 'render blocking'.
    12:29 but if you want to run code that has anything to do with rendering, a task is the wrong place to do it, coz it's on the 'opposite' side of the world from rendering, as far as the event loop is concerned.
    24:00 MicroTasks (RAF - RequestAnimationFrame finishes here )

  • @LichardD
    @LichardD 4 роки тому +72

    Came here to learn about event loops.
    I now fear those who drink fizzy water.

  • @maximlyakhov967
    @maximlyakhov967 2 роки тому +38

    This is the best event loop talk on YT.
    Well balanced mental load / mental rest.
    Thank you, Jake!

  • @benoitleger-derville4162
    @benoitleger-derville4162 6 років тому +322

    Best show and explanation ever about the the V8 event-loop / main thread / tasks / microtasks

    • @dinub8414
      @dinub8414 6 років тому +25

      Yep. Thanks to Jake! Worth mentioning, though, that the event loop doesn't run within the V8 javascript engine, but natively in the browser. The javascript runtime has no own event loop. I found Phil Roberts' talk very good, too: ua-cam.com/video/8aGhZQkoFbQ/v-deo.html

  • @InternetTips_bb
    @InternetTips_bb 4 роки тому +117

    Jake is an amazing asset for the JS community!

    • @codeaperture
      @codeaperture 3 роки тому +1

      I always watch this when I feel " you don't know JavaScript yet,,"

  • @ashishshubham
    @ashishshubham 5 років тому +86

    I wish I learnt all my CS courses from you Jake.

  • @thefuturejulio
    @thefuturejulio 5 років тому +114

    I feel like I just watched epic blockbuster with huge budget, Tom Cruise and stuff

  • @bg_x6558
    @bg_x6558 5 років тому +111

    This talk is soooo informative. A single effective visual plus narrative beats a thousand words.
    Could someone enlighten me of the tool or the way for the speaker to make the slides (or something else) ?

    • @DheerajBhaskar
      @DheerajBhaskar 5 років тому +11

      I'm also interested. I think he used HTML5 and js to make this

    • @ys5399
      @ys5399 5 років тому +3

      I think I know you from Columbus Ohio??

  • @kieran2347
    @kieran2347 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you for explaining event loops for all of us 5-year-olds, Jake! You the best!

  • @justinhalsall4077
    @justinhalsall4077 6 років тому +7

    Love Jake's talks, always super solid, informative and even include some giggles from time to time!

  • @JuanOrigami
    @JuanOrigami 5 років тому +5

    The piano chat part is totally relatable. When i do a talk in front of thousands of people I want to be as funny as this man

  • @sgwatyt
    @sgwatyt 6 років тому +199

    The main Fred.

  • @jlyunior
    @jlyunior 2 роки тому +2

    This talk has to be displayed in the best Cinemas :) amazing talk 3 years later and im totally sure that will be a good talk to watch again in 2035

  • @anjaliRaghavmgr8
    @anjaliRaghavmgr8 4 роки тому +10

    Loved the energy he brings to the talk. Informatively hilarious!

  • @mattscheurich1037
    @mattscheurich1037 5 років тому +8

    Super great explainer, whoever did the design for the animations deserves a massive shout-out. Well thought out and great visual metaphors too.

    • @jakearchibald
      @jakearchibald 5 років тому +23

      I do all my own stunts

    • @rizaldywirawan
      @rizaldywirawan 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@jakearchibald Full Stack Speaker, i guess :v ... Can you tell us what software do you use or how you create the animation, please?

    • @mreyybree
      @mreyybree 4 роки тому +1

      @@rizaldywirawan He uses HTML+CSS+JS+SVG

  • @XAbybai
    @XAbybai 6 років тому +11

    I repeat others, but I want to give the great thanks to that speaker. Very very nice talk about loop, promise, RAF and others tricky cases. Thanks you a lot!

  • @maximofernandez196
    @maximofernandez196 Рік тому

    "You don't want to write a code that is like a sneeze". Yeah, this is probably one of the best talks I've ever seen, actually pedagogical if we think about it

  • @markovujanic
    @markovujanic Рік тому +1

    This video sits much better after third time 'through the loop'. Thanks Jake for creating it.

  • @ananthakrishnanj729
    @ananthakrishnanj729 5 років тому +2

    Most informative and engaging talks on event loops! Kudos Jakes.

  • @Ashok-wc9be
    @Ashok-wc9be 4 роки тому +3

    This guy is super awesome and this talk is probably the best talk on the event-loop out there! Thanks a lot!

  • @AmandeepSingh-hd8iq
    @AmandeepSingh-hd8iq 5 років тому +6

    Now this is what you call a talk. Impeccable 👌

  • @SocksWithSandals
    @SocksWithSandals 4 роки тому +2

    I was that guy who would throw in a setTimeout and play around with the delay number until the manual test matched the automated test.
    It would raise an eyebrow at code reviews, but I'm a pragmatist not a purist.
    Now I know why I was right! Thanks Jake.

  • @faceupanddown
    @faceupanddown 5 років тому +7

    You can have a new hobby at which you are extremely good and it's technical presentations about JS and web.
    Aaaa, also, the how different queues are processed made shivers run up my neck. Really excited. Wife (who is senior QA) is getting jealous of you :p

  • @indylawi5021
    @indylawi5021 4 роки тому +11

    Great, fun to watch, very intuitive (with a good sense of humor) presentation for a deep insight into what is going on inside the JS event loop. Jake, you definitely nail JS event loop.

  • @MiltonSosa
    @MiltonSosa 6 років тому +1

    Amazing explanation on how event-loop, RAF and micro-tasks works!

  • @paavangupta3420
    @paavangupta3420 2 роки тому

    His way of explaining things with so much clarity and hilarious jokes in between, is on the next level 😂🙌 Amazing!

  • @c9988774455
    @c9988774455 6 років тому +13

    I never Heard about Microtasks even though I am using Promises, Great visual comparison between JSTasks, rAF and Microtasks. Awesome stuff Jake.

  • @MajorBreakfast
    @MajorBreakfast 6 років тому +36

    Thank you for including the part about microtasks! Very informative!

  • @Pupu._
    @Pupu._ 2 роки тому +4

    great video! I might need to watch again to wrap up the concepts but he's a great speaker with fun ! I hope he gives us more talks like this

  • @mr_ozio
    @mr_ozio 3 роки тому +1

    This is the must watch video before any js interview.

  • @ashokethapay
    @ashokethapay 8 місяців тому

    What an amazing talk. It cleared out lot of my queries around the event loop, when the browser prepares a frame, and how much javascript it runs before the frame. Thanks, Jake!!!

  • @dima9740
    @dima9740 6 років тому +1

    Oh my gosh, that's very simple, clear and informative. Great speaker, great presentation.

  • @karadelamarck6576
    @karadelamarck6576 6 років тому +21

    Thank you for an excellent talk! Fascinating, especially regarding promises and microtasks and how the microtask queue must run to completion before the event loop can continue. Could I ask how callbacks and promises (both of which generate short-lived objects) are affected by, or affect, garbage collection? When the new space is full how does the V8 engine handle the 'stop the world' technique in relation to the event loop? Is there a potential for callbacks to be more performant regarding garbage collection vs promises?

  • @shivam.mishra
    @shivam.mishra 3 роки тому +1

    Never had such a clear vision of the event loop. Thanks jake

  • @smitthakkar9837
    @smitthakkar9837 Рік тому +1

    One of the best talks till date on event loop! Thanks a lot!

  • @xingyuye0313
    @xingyuye0313 2 роки тому

    This is the best talk on the "event loop" I've ever seen!

  • @Gelio1234
    @Gelio1234 6 років тому +1

    What a great talk! So much useful information presented in a convenient and easy to understand way

  • @cli23
    @cli23 3 роки тому

    Amazing talk in so many ways. Incredible speaker, slides and diagrams, and content.

  • @raymondyoo5461
    @raymondyoo5461 Рік тому

    wow great lecture. Talking about deep and complex notions in such a concise tone, thanks for your great presentation

  • @__azt
    @__azt 5 років тому +1

    Wow! That is one of the most informative talks I ever heard.

  • @Textras
    @Textras 6 років тому +6

    Superb talk Jake. As always!! Now time for a lime soda water.

  • @dnav10
    @dnav10 5 років тому +5

    Didn't know anything about this. Now I feel like wanting to dig more into JavaScript

  • @jasonsebring3983
    @jasonsebring3983 5 років тому +1

    I feel like I just started learning this stuff and I've been doing it for so long. Amazing!

  • @dacao9240
    @dacao9240 Рік тому

    I want to download this video and save it in my laptop, just in case youtube goes down. That's how much I love this video.

  • @shenoynishant
    @shenoynishant 5 років тому +14

    This is awesome! I had developed a parallax feature using rAF, and I was wondering why it was smooth on Chrome but janky on Edge, this explains it :)

  • @johnlennon407
    @johnlennon407 7 місяців тому

    Wow, what a fantastic performance! Entertaining and informative, with deep philosophical thoughts like sneezing metaphor or orbits and sun animations. The lector is brilliant.

  • @ShahriarAnwar
    @ShahriarAnwar 6 років тому +26

    Just AWESOME. Jake you're my man.

  • @tinpham6413
    @tinpham6413 2 роки тому

    This is the best presentation so far i've seen from the badass talking and animation for slide, but sad for the dead crowd

  • @sudeep.g
    @sudeep.g 4 роки тому

    One of the best talks I have ever seen!

  • @stackdeveloper6614
    @stackdeveloper6614 5 місяців тому

    My life as a developer changed after this talk!

  • @mukeshsoni
    @mukeshsoni 6 років тому +1

    I was so stressed in the last 3-4 minutes looking at that guy standing besides Jake. I thought any second now he would pull the mic away from Jake and cuff him.
    side note - What a thoroughly enjoyable presentation 👏

    • @jakearchibald
      @jakearchibald 6 років тому +1

      Yeah, that was a bit weird. I told them in advance that I might run over ~4 mins. Although I really didn't notice them standing there.

  • @Imsganesh
    @Imsganesh 6 років тому

    Great talk. Elegant and simple explanation!! 👏👏

  • @nikosc
    @nikosc 4 роки тому +1

    Wow. After that talk I used many blogs and MDN docs to fully understand these topics.

  • @feihcsim7045
    @feihcsim7045 6 років тому +5

    my man jake killing it again

  • @SafetyLast-_-
    @SafetyLast-_- 2 роки тому

    The best explanation of the Event Loop out there 👍

  • @xerxius5446
    @xerxius5446 4 роки тому +11

    Finally, a JS expert with a sense of humor !

  • @s3340985
    @s3340985 3 роки тому +4

    Great humor, tough crowd :) But honestly, very informative, thank you!

  • @AhmadAwais
    @AhmadAwais 6 років тому +18

    Just like always, amazing presentation, especially when you magically swapped those lines around at 2:25 😲

  • @promatik
    @promatik 5 років тому +1

    What a great feeling, just learned awesome stuff. Thanks!

  • @user-db2bl1oj1v
    @user-db2bl1oj1v 3 роки тому

    Amazing video. You make the subject very clear

  • @norwen
    @norwen 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this amazing talk! Whole new world :)

  • @amanmavai99
    @amanmavai99 6 місяців тому

    one of the best talks I have ever seen. !!

  • @mweb7344
    @mweb7344 2 роки тому +2

    that looks and sounds like a real world Sheldon, Great talk !!

  • @shikharchaudhary6984
    @shikharchaudhary6984 5 років тому

    Amazing talk. Cleared my concepts. Good Job !

  • @yonoseespanol
    @yonoseespanol 2 роки тому +2

    For those who find this incredibly interesting, Jake and Surma have a talk show called HTTP 203

  • @NorthEagle
    @NorthEagle 5 років тому +2

    Why the F isn't this video watched 1 million times? This is amazingly informative and presented in a really really good way :-)

  • @saurabhmehta7681
    @saurabhmehta7681 4 роки тому

    Great talk! And his level of understanding is inspirational

  • @anirudhsreerambhatla6108
    @anirudhsreerambhatla6108 4 роки тому

    This is one of the best talks I have seen after Phillips Roberts What the heck is the event loop? Both these talks helped me understand the Event Loop and get better context
    I then took the JS the Hard Parts from Front End Masters by Will Sentence. It was great. I got a better understanding of the the async and concurrency model of JS

    • @kf88743
      @kf88743 4 роки тому

      I have followed the same path, except in reverse. I came here after watching all of Will Sentence's videos on Front End Masters. He is by far my favorite instructor there.

  • @EduardoWeidmanBarijan
    @EduardoWeidmanBarijan Рік тому

    That was easy to follow even though I get stuck a lot when it comes to frontend programming. Good job.

  • @RubenMiquelino
    @RubenMiquelino 3 роки тому +3

    fucking amazing. i wish every talker has this kind of humor

  • @havenoideawith
    @havenoideawith 6 років тому +4

    Love the main thread animation.☺️

  • @afca25
    @afca25 2 роки тому

    That's a tough crowd if i've ever seen one... My man is killing it there!!

  • @afca25
    @afca25 2 роки тому

    That piano bit was straight up Larry David-esque humor and I loved it!

  • @nukebarbarbarian3735
    @nukebarbarbarian3735 9 місяців тому

    This is the best video on event loop so clear!

  • @Munchyydl
    @Munchyydl 6 років тому

    Great visual explanation of the event loop! :)

  • @KaranSheth
    @KaranSheth 3 роки тому

    This is so good! Its like Simon Amstell coming to teach me about javascript stuff!

  • @mr.fishfish570
    @mr.fishfish570 Рік тому

    Thank you very much for doing this presentation!

  • @mryechkin
    @mryechkin 3 роки тому +1

    Man.. tough crowd! This was a great talk

  • @PaulShmaul
    @PaulShmaul 2 роки тому +1

    Best explanation of event loop, indeed

  • @1kounter
    @1kounter 5 років тому +1

    clear and simple explanation for a beginner to get a grasp of what is going on under the hood, well done! Correct if I'm wrong but I think there is a mistake in the little exercise at 30:32 . It should be promise.then('Microtask 1') instead of promise.then('Listener 1') and same for number 2.

  • @ihateslowcars
    @ihateslowcars 6 років тому +1

    The jokes were hilarious and were even funnier because the audience was so painfully silent. Without a doubt, it made the talk better and made me like you more. I'm guessing there was some sort of language barrier there with the audience.

    • @jakearchibald
      @jakearchibald 6 років тому +3

      Yeah, the audience was quiet in general. But also, since the audience wasn't mic'd, a moderate giggle turns into *silence*.

  • @rpmarin8933
    @rpmarin8933 4 роки тому +3

    This is a wonderful talk! A very illustrative and beautiful explanation of the javascript's internals. Do any of you know a talk about the internals of other languages like this ? Java? Python? PHP ?

  • @danieltroger1761
    @danieltroger1761 Рік тому

    This talk was SOOO GOOOd. TYSM 🙏

  • @herozero777
    @herozero777 8 місяців тому

    Yup this is really helpful, thanks for this awesome talk.

  • @shuvenduoffline
    @shuvenduoffline Рік тому

    Best explanation you can find

  • @MerrStudio
    @MerrStudio Рік тому

    I love this talk, great job

  • @HarshSingh-hk8fe
    @HarshSingh-hk8fe 2 роки тому

    this is the best explanation of even loops

  • @waldemarenns4874
    @waldemarenns4874 3 роки тому +1

    A classical Archibald. Great talk!

  • @dattugaade
    @dattugaade 5 років тому

    It's very informative. Thanks Jake.

  • @zubinix
    @zubinix 3 роки тому

    Great explanation. Thanks Jake.

  • @jomgranade8764
    @jomgranade8764 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for this! This will help me in my reactjs development!