It would be interesting to see the consistency of yardage from a forged iron head vs hollow & foam filled heads. I play off 7 but am getting older and will want more forgiveness but without giving up the accuracy of distance with a forged head. This video was very useful 👌🏻
I recently demoed both Callaway and Mizuno irons. I selected the Apex DCB. Why? With the performance being pretty much equal, I just liked the feel and looks better. These are all quality products and all perform well. In someways there are too many choices😜. My only recommendation is try multiple brands of clubs and within each brand try different models. You might be surprised. Thanks for the video!
Don't let the marketing fool you. The DCB's are excellent even for low handicappers. The only real difference one will notice is the bit more offset of the DCB vs. the 21's..both are amazingly accurate and can shape shots well. You also get forgivable distance with the dcb's. Love these clubs. BTW, many pro's are moving towards more forgiving irons and leaving blades in the dust.
Just bought a set of the Apex irons. Compared to the Rogue line up these feel so much better. Alot more feel through the club and far more consistency than the Rogues!
How do you like them? I just bought a set and I’m coming from ping eye 3 blue dot (old clubs). After seeing so many videos on UA-cam there are so many clubs out there I started worrying if I was getting the right one. What did you have before you got them?
@@meaneugenm4 well I’m a decent golfer little inconsistent in the ball striking , I found them a tad bit hard to hit and not very forgiving miss hits your gonna lose decent yards , so I sent them back for JPX HMP , more forgiveness and the size is in between the hot metal and forged . Hope this helps .
I just purchased a full set of the Apex 2012 DCB irons with graphite shafts based my tests of a 7 iron. Definitely easier to hit than my Epic forged irons which have longer shafts and stronger lofts. I hope I made a good decision. I can play them year round here in SW Florida.
I found that Mizuno’s MB HMB tick all the boxes for me. Played around with a mixed set but ended up 3-9 in HMB, PW in MB to blend into the T20 wedges. Love them and find all the irons pretty easy to hit. Look great for sure
What is interesting to me is the launch angle, descent angle and peak height. All are higher with the Callaway, even though the loft is less. Surely this is the crucial point, ignore the number on the club, even the loft, look at the descent angle. Currently playing MMC 18
I've been playing Mizuno for the last 15 years...went to a fitting and ended up with the Apex DCB...I was very surprised, but the numbers don't lie. The clubs haven't arrived yet, but looking forward to getting them out on the course. Keeping my Mizuno 225s just in case 😁(trying to convince myself maybe I just need to change the shafts)
Just got fitted for the DCB. Was hoping to get the Mizuno Hot Metal, but it ended up being between the DCB and the P790 for me, and ultimately I was carrying the DCB ten yards further and it just felt better in my hands and through impact.
Mid-handicapper. Upgraded to the DCB's after my srixon hand-me-downs were stolen. Had my eyes set on some pings and mizuno models but decided on these after a fitting. They are a bit more clunky looking and feeling compared to the other brands and superficially I think the minimalist designs of the other brands are sexier but the DCB's outperformed and felt better than the other clubs for me. The heavier feeling heads help me create lag and are great for my swing speed. Will continue to side-eye those sexier designs but love the feel, performance, and sound of the DCB's.
I will be purchasing a set of game improvement irons this year. Be nice to see a video comparing Ping G425, Sim Max 2, Callaway DCB Apex, & Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal irons. And, have the same loft/steel shaft for each brand/club to really truly see the differences in the technology of each club.
The DCB’s are a hell of an iron. I really like how the set is progressive in that the shorter irons don’t have a ton of bounce/width but the whole set has tons of help. They also look rather pleasing from the topline even though they’re on the thicker side.
You are looking very Canadian wearing the toque on your head, Mike. Lol. Always enjoy your videos. I’m curious how the apex 21 (not the dcb) compares to the mizuno. And if the apex 21 is an improvement over apex 19.
This is an oddly mismatched comparison; the Apex DCB is most closely situated to the Mizuno 921 Hot Metal irons, not the Forged irons. The JPX 921 Forged Irons fit most closely to the Apex or Apex Pro irons. What an odd review.
The review is just what I was looking for- I play forged Mizuno MX-200s but getting older and want more forgiveness - but can’t give up the feel of a forged club.
I am looking at both these irons to replace my 12- year old Mizuno MX-200s. I love the feel of a forged club. I know the Mizunos are going to feel great, but need to check performance on launch monitor .
I have the Callaway Rogue irons and absolutely love them. But I can't wait until the shafts break so that I can get the Apex DCB irons to replace them. 😂 I'm a 10 handicap but ALWAYS looking for forgiving clubs that feel great!
I don't think these 2 clubs are going to be considered by the same shopper. The Callaway is a definite game improvement club, with the thick topline, relatively wide sole, and generous offset. The Hotmetal and Hotmetal Pro would be the most comparable Mizuno products. The 921 Forged is more of a players distance club and will be compared to clubs like the ZX5, p770, Apex, and maybe the G425.
The Mizuno just looks better plus that softer sound and feel gives all that you need. I can see where the Callaway might be filling a niche and suit many players. I guess the price point would be the final determination as to whether it will be successful.
I was originally thinking on some Mizuno Hot Metals, but these DCB has caught my eye as I've only been playing 6 months but like the idea of a forged set. Which would you say are the best out of those 2?
I own the DCB's....absolutely love the look, feel, ball flight....spectacular club. Played Hogan Edge for years (forged) and these have that same buttery feel but shots are longer and directional even when hit towards the toe.
I have two sets of irons Mizuno 921 forged and Srixon ZX5s Bought them both in November. Not seen a range let alone a golf course Don’t know which set to put in the bag. The other set WILL be for sale as soon as I decide 🤔🤔⛳️🏌️♀️
@@malcolmfawcett8012 I’ll let you decide that one haha, I suppose the shafts would have to be right also. It’s between these 2 sets of irons for me aswell
Hi Michael, how about comparing the PXG 0211 vs Mizuno 921 Hot Metal Pro vs Taylormade P790’s? One of the 3 are on my target list and would love to know how they compare.
As always, brilliant content. Is it too much to hope for to see a review of the Srixon ZX4's in the future? Would I be stretching too far to throw the new Miura PI-401's in that request??
Great video. I am left handed and currently playing JPX 900 Hot Metal. Besides a select few clubs, did Mizuno stop making left handed irons? I can't find the JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro or JPX 921 Hot Metal in left handed anywhere.
Loads of tech and yet does absolutely nothing my 716MB 5 iron can't do at 29 degrees 👍 Oh wait, it does do something my iron doesn't....it looks ugly 😂 Always enjoy your videos Michael 👍
Mizuno all the way much prefer the sleeker look with a little longer blade length preferred to stockier look and shorter blade length, would you say the Callaway is more forgiving? Does the longer blade length of the Mizuno not offer more forgiveness along with the little bit of extra loft?
I was looking at the DCB and P770.. I’m just getting back into golf used to play when I was young. Do I NEED something that’s forgiving or can I get something like the P770s and just practice?
Who in the world wants a hot face on an iron? Look how consistent the distance is with the Mizuno. Plus the Mizuno looks better and obviously feels better.
@@MXJEFF94 I’m simply going by the exact review and quote by Michael. He prefers the looks and feel of the Mizunos. Even if he hadn’t reviewed head to head, I could make an educated assumption based on the irons of both companies in this category over the past 20 years.
I’ve now owned both so can compare. BB21 was easy to hit with great ball flight but they were chunky & heads felt heavy somewhat unbalanced with the graphite shafts I had but for a slow swing speed they played excellent but the offset & chunky heads was the main downside albeit good clubs. The Apex DCBs I now have feel more balanced & give more feedback with a thinner head & less offset. I had Proj X Catalyst 65 shafts on BB21 & now have SteelFibre fc80 on the Apex & the whole club is more balanced. Easier to get distance out of BB21 but the Apex DCB feels & looks nicer all round. BB21 slightly cheaper but not much. I’d say if older with slow swing the BB21 easier to launch but I’m a slow swing after strokes and still getting a lovely launch of DCBs & they just look amazing. Both fab clubs but I’m happier with DCB. Only disadvantage of DCB is they chip easier in bag with chatter so I use head covers whereas BB21s never marked chattering in bag.
Trying to get away from X hots since I have lowered my handicap and these would not be something I would use as a replacement. If I can’t hit something tidier, then I’ll stay with what I have.
Any whispers from Ping on a replacement for the i210’s? A great value iron at £650 for 6 irons compared to £850/£870 for the TM’s Apex Mizuno - great feel as well.
i have 10 hcp, atm i play with mizuno mp63 that i bought almost 15 years ago and i am looking for a new iron set, i play very stabile right now, but i want a little more forgiveness - will these help or should i go for taylormade or Srixon zx5 for more forgivness without compromise the length
Like all the elements of the Callaway, but as usual with Callaway, they’re way overpriced! Think I’ll wait a year or two and then pick up a used set off eBay!
I can’t take them serious anymore . I feel like the direction they go is always backwards . going back to green colored epics really made a confirmation
would have thought the 921 forged would match up against the regular Apex and the Hot metal and Hot metal Pro would go against the Apex DCB. The DCB has too much offset, don't think the same player would be deciding between these two.
the regular apex.. thinner top line vs the dcb.. 30 degrees on the dcb, 30.5 on the regular apex and the mizuno has 31 degrees. For a half degree I would go thinner top line
I was also confused by this comparison. Forged vs forged... ok... but regular Apex is also forged and is a better model to compare to 921 forged. There is just no comparison between Apex DCB and 921 forged if we r comparing just the feel of the club. Regular Apex would have been a better comparison. But thanks for the video. (A comparison between Apex 19 and Apex 21 would be nice to see if there is a real difference/improvement between the two)
Dont let the 'forged' terminology fool you. DCB irons are clunkers, plain and simple. Bought a set and am very disappointed. Ready to throw them away after two outings. Feel is 'pappy' and the much touted 'forgiveness' is over-hyped. All nonsense.
Both of these are amazing irons. I just can’t get over how great these DCB’s are. They make the game so much easier and fun.
Went thru a fitting with my Pro. We ordered 5-PW Callaway APEX DCB. Just a nice feeling iron.
Just bought a set of the apex DCB and couldn’t be happier. Feels great and Mishits are wayyy more forgiving
Would love to see 921 forged vs standard apex vs zx5 vs the new miura pi irons!
921, apex and zx5 are on my short list so this sounds like a great idea.
It would be interesting to see the consistency of yardage from a forged iron head vs hollow & foam filled heads. I play off 7 but am getting older and will want more forgiveness but without giving up the accuracy of distance with a forged head. This video was very useful 👌🏻
I recently demoed both Callaway and Mizuno irons.
I selected the Apex DCB.
Why? With the performance being pretty much equal, I just liked the feel and looks better. These are all quality products and all perform well.
In someways there are too many choices😜.
My only recommendation is try multiple brands of clubs and within each brand try different models.
You might be surprised.
Thanks for the video!
Nice ,light and funny way of delivering infomation. Thank you!
Don't let the marketing fool you. The DCB's are excellent even for low handicappers. The only real difference one will notice is the bit more offset of the DCB vs. the 21's..both are amazingly accurate and can shape shots well. You also get forgivable distance with the dcb's. Love these clubs. BTW, many pro's are moving towards more forgiving irons and leaving blades in the dust.
Yes please the callaway dcb irons are my dream set of clubs ,perfect for a 15 handicapper like myself
I play the Apex CF19 Smoke. Love the forgiveness without it sacrificing looks.
Just bought a set of the Apex irons. Compared to the Rogue line up these feel so much better. Alot more feel through the club and far more consistency than the Rogues!
I just bought the JPX921 forged 😁
How do you like them? I just bought a set and I’m coming from ping eye 3 blue dot (old clubs). After seeing so many videos on UA-cam there are so many clubs out there I started worrying if I was getting the right one. What did you have before you got them?
@@meaneugenm4 well I’m a decent golfer little inconsistent in the ball striking , I found them a tad bit hard to hit and not very forgiving miss hits your gonna lose decent yards , so I sent them back for JPX HMP , more forgiveness and the size is in between the hot metal and forged . Hope this helps .
@@wnfakind9197 The Mizuno forged are for a mid to low handicapper whereas the DCBs are for the high handicapper.
I just purchased a full set of the Apex 2012 DCB irons with graphite shafts based my tests of a 7 iron. Definitely easier to hit than my Epic forged irons which have longer shafts and stronger lofts. I hope I made a good decision. I can play them year round here in SW Florida.
I found that Mizuno’s MB HMB tick all the boxes for me. Played around with a mixed set but ended up 3-9 in HMB, PW in MB to blend into the T20 wedges. Love them and find all the irons pretty easy to hit. Look great for sure
What is interesting to me is the launch angle, descent angle and peak height. All are higher with the Callaway, even though the loft is less. Surely this is the crucial point, ignore the number on the club, even the loft, look at the descent angle.
Currently playing MMC 18
I've been playing Mizuno for the last 15 years...went to a fitting and ended up with the Apex DCB...I was very surprised, but the numbers don't lie. The clubs haven't arrived yet, but looking forward to getting them out on the course. Keeping my Mizuno 225s just in case 😁(trying to convince myself maybe I just need to change the shafts)
Nice review Big Mike. How about ZX5 vs. 921 forged vs. 425.
Just got fitted for the DCB. Was hoping to get the Mizuno Hot Metal, but it ended up being between the DCB and the P790 for me, and ultimately I was carrying the DCB ten yards further and it just felt better in my hands and through impact.
Mid-handicapper. Upgraded to the DCB's after my srixon hand-me-downs were stolen. Had my eyes set on some pings and mizuno models but decided on these after a fitting. They are a bit more clunky looking and feeling compared to the other brands and superficially I think the minimalist designs of the other brands are sexier but the DCB's outperformed and felt better than the other clubs for me. The heavier feeling heads help me create lag and are great for my swing speed. Will continue to side-eye those sexier designs but love the feel, performance, and sound of the DCB's.
Love your swing Michael, the release of the hands is what I aspire to!! Keep up the good content.....
It’s poetry isn’t it ?
I will be purchasing a set of game improvement irons this year. Be nice to see a video comparing Ping G425, Sim Max 2, Callaway DCB Apex, & Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal irons. And, have the same loft/steel shaft for each brand/club to really truly see the differences in the technology of each club.
You should look at the Mizuno hot metal PRO irons great option .
Mizuno is in a class of their own
2021 will be the first season for my JPX 921 forged irons. Can’t wait for the snow to go and the courses to open.
The DCB’s are a hell of an iron. I really like how the set is progressive in that the shorter irons don’t have a ton of bounce/width but the whole set has tons of help. They also look rather pleasing from the topline even though they’re on the thicker side.
You are looking very Canadian wearing the toque on your head, Mike. Lol. Always enjoy your videos. I’m curious how the apex 21 (not the dcb) compares to the mizuno. And if the apex 21 is an improvement over apex 19.
I chose these over the Cobra SZ. Love the feel, and sound, for a post beginner iron!
For me, it would be the Mizuno every time
The Apex DCB (deep cavity back) is a game improvement iron. A better Mizuno comparison would be their JPX 921 Hot Metal.
Wanted to compare forged against forged
Mizuno’s are on n my test list..... Callaway is too chunky for me. ⛳️👍🏻
Looks too offset.
This is an oddly mismatched comparison; the Apex DCB is most closely situated to the Mizuno 921 Hot Metal irons, not the Forged irons. The JPX 921 Forged Irons fit most closely to the Apex or Apex Pro irons. What an odd review.
The review is just what I was looking for- I play forged Mizuno MX-200s but getting older and want more forgiveness - but can’t give up the feel of a forged club.
Are the DCB's a bit clicky? Sound hard/loud.....
I am looking at both these irons to replace my 12- year old Mizuno MX-200s. I love the feel of a forged club. I know the Mizunos are going to feel great, but need to check performance on launch monitor .
I have the Callaway Rogue irons and absolutely love them. But I can't wait until the shafts break so that I can get the Apex DCB irons to replace them. 😂 I'm a 10 handicap but ALWAYS looking for forgiving clubs that feel great!
Jim from Canada. Have to take out a mortgage to buy.
Love the feel of these irons.
I don't think these 2 clubs are going to be considered by the same shopper. The Callaway is a definite game improvement club, with the thick topline, relatively wide sole, and generous offset. The Hotmetal and Hotmetal Pro would be the most comparable Mizuno products. The 921 Forged is more of a players distance club and will be compared to clubs like the ZX5, p770, Apex, and maybe the G425.
Yeh agree but the reason I put these together is because 921 is forged, HM aren’t. Wanted to compare the feels
Can you compare Apex DCB 21 to Big Bertha 21
The Mizuno just looks better plus that softer sound and feel gives all that you need. I can see where the Callaway might be filling a niche and suit many players. I guess the price point would be the final determination as to whether it will be successful.
I was originally thinking on some Mizuno Hot Metals, but these DCB has caught my eye as I've only been playing 6 months but like the idea of a forged set. Which would you say are the best out of those 2?
I own the DCB's....absolutely love the look, feel, ball flight....spectacular club. Played Hogan Edge for years (forged) and these have that same buttery feel but shots are longer and directional even when hit towards the toe.
I have two sets of irons Mizuno 921 forged and Srixon ZX5s
Bought them both in November. Not seen a range let alone a golf course
Don’t know which set to put in the bag. The other set WILL be for sale as soon as I decide 🤔🤔⛳️🏌️♀️
I’ll buy them off you 👍🏻
@@GTF85 I don’t know which set I’m keeping yet. Sorry. But I will sell one set, but for how much??
@@malcolmfawcett8012 I’ll let you decide that one haha, I suppose the shafts would have to be right also. It’s between these 2 sets of irons for me aswell
@@GTF85 the Mizuno have project x 5.5 shafts and the Srixon have modus pro 105
Both sets were £900
Looking for £775
Thank you 😊
Are these clubs like €1300? Madness
Hi Michael, how about comparing the PXG 0211 vs Mizuno 921 Hot Metal Pro vs Taylormade P790’s? One of the 3 are on my target list and would love to know how they compare.
As always, brilliant content. Is it too much to hope for to see a review of the Srixon ZX4's in the future? Would I be stretching too far to throw the new Miura PI-401's in that request??
Chasing to get the ZX4 iron to test but looking like March before I can get my hands on one. That review will come tho.
I would think the Mizuno HotMetal would be a better comparison to the Callaway DCB
Wanted to compare against a forged iron hence the 921 Forged 👍
Great video. I am left handed and currently playing JPX 900 Hot Metal. Besides a select few clubs, did Mizuno stop making left handed irons? I can't find the JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro or JPX 921 Hot Metal in left handed anywhere.
Game the Apex 19 Forged and like them. Don’t see any reason to upgrade although the Apex Pro is tempting.
the Apex Pro looks a lot better. The thick top line isn't a big deal but it doesn't look as tidy.
Loads of tech and yet does absolutely nothing my 716MB 5 iron can't do at 29 degrees 👍 Oh wait, it does do something my iron doesn't....it looks ugly 😂 Always enjoy your videos Michael 👍
I would guess it would produce more ball speed on an off center strike
Mizuno all the way much prefer the sleeker look with a little longer blade length preferred to stockier look and shorter blade length, would you say the Callaway is more forgiving? Does the longer blade length of the Mizuno not offer more forgiveness along with the little bit of extra loft?
I was looking at the DCB and P770.. I’m just getting back into golf used to play when I was young. Do I NEED something that’s forgiving or can I get something like the P770s and just practice?
I see the DCB a being more comparable to the Hot Metal than the forged personally
Who in the world wants a hot face on an iron? Look how consistent the distance is with the Mizuno. Plus the Mizuno looks better and obviously feels better.
So you've already hit the Apex 21's then....to make such a statement?
@@MXJEFF94 I’m simply going by the exact review and quote by Michael. He prefers the looks and feel of the Mizunos. Even if he hadn’t reviewed head to head, I could make an educated assumption based on the irons of both companies in this category over the past 20 years.
The muzunos do feel better.
Can you compare Callaway Apex DCB vs Big Bertha 21 as they seem the same
I’ve now owned both so can compare. BB21 was easy to hit with great ball flight but they were chunky & heads felt heavy somewhat unbalanced with the graphite shafts I had but for a slow swing speed they played excellent but the offset & chunky heads was the main downside albeit good clubs. The Apex DCBs I now have feel more balanced & give more feedback with a thinner head & less offset. I had Proj X Catalyst 65 shafts on BB21 & now have SteelFibre fc80 on the Apex & the whole club is more balanced. Easier to get distance out of BB21 but the Apex DCB feels & looks nicer all round. BB21 slightly cheaper but not much. I’d say if older with slow swing the BB21 easier to launch but I’m a slow swing after strokes and still getting a lovely launch of DCBs & they just look amazing. Both fab clubs but I’m happier with DCB. Only disadvantage of DCB is they chip easier in bag with chatter so I use head covers whereas BB21s never marked chattering in bag.
Would theses Callaway dcb be ok for a high handicapper like the Mavrik max.
yes
Debating if i should sell my new Epic Forged for these?
Trying to get away from X hots since I have lowered my handicap and these would not be something I would use as a replacement. If I can’t hit something tidier, then I’ll stay with what I have.
i was interested in the dcb but you didnt even mention what shaft you tested...
Sort of comparing apples to bananas, a little. The forger 921 is slim and a players iron, the DCB is really thick, hollow and a game improvement iron.
have oreded my dcb irons
I would love the Calloway but like all the new irons they are just priced out of the budget of the average guy.
Just get last years models
Any whispers from Ping on a replacement for the i210’s? A great value iron at £650 for 6 irons compared to £850/£870 for the TM’s Apex Mizuno - great feel as well.
I’m predicting Sept this year
i have 10 hcp, atm i play with mizuno mp63 that i bought almost 15 years ago and i am looking for a new iron set, i play very stabile right now, but i want a little more forgiveness - will these help or should i go for taylormade or Srixon zx5 for more forgivness without compromise the length
I dont think the blade is longer on the mizuno, the grooves are just longer
I thought the DCB was more in the category of the 921 hm pro
Are the standard apex and the 921 forged no a closer match?
Wanted a stronger lofted forged iron to compare against the Callaway without going hollow head. Yes, std Apex would also be a good compare 👍
@@MichaelNewtonGolf thanks for the reply. Always enjoy your content
Looks like a Rogue Pro revamp.
Not sure we are comparing clubs of the same class?
Like all the elements of the Callaway, but as usual with Callaway, they’re way overpriced! Think I’ll wait a year or two and then pick up a used set off eBay!
I think the JPX 921 would be more similar to the Apex 21 not the DCB ?
Wanted to compare against another forged iron for the feel aspect
I do not understand the direction Callaway is going with their iron line ups. I much prefer their offerings from 10 years ago...
I can’t take them serious anymore . I feel like the direction they go is always backwards . going back to green colored epics really made a confirmation
The DCB ticks every single box.
would have thought the 921 forged would match up against the regular Apex and the Hot metal and Hot metal Pro would go against the Apex DCB. The DCB has too much offset, don't think the same player would be deciding between these two.
Wanted forged against forged
the regular apex.. thinner top line vs the dcb.. 30 degrees on the dcb, 30.5 on the regular apex and the mizuno has 31 degrees. For a half degree I would go thinner top line
I was also confused by this comparison. Forged vs forged... ok... but regular Apex is also forged and is a better model to compare to 921 forged. There is just no comparison between Apex DCB and 921 forged if we r comparing just the feel of the club. Regular Apex would have been a better comparison. But thanks for the video. (A comparison between Apex 19 and Apex 21 would be nice to see if there is a real difference/improvement between the two)
I'm a high teen handicap.... just looking for the best irons for me... don't care about looks or cost... just performance - straight and distance
Get the DCBs. Much easier to hit than the Mizuno forged that are for a mid-handicapper of 15 or so.
I ordered the Mizuno then cancelled the order, got refitted two week later with a different shaft and ordered them again, got sent both sets of irons.
Srixon z4 v dcb
You’re hitting a 7 210???
Prefer the mizuno
All Callaway clubs look short, fat and round to me. Not a fan.
That Callaway iron looks horrendous....So "chunky" looking..
Dont let the 'forged' terminology fool you. DCB irons are clunkers, plain and simple. Bought a set and am very disappointed. Ready to throw them away after two outings. Feel is 'pappy' and the much touted 'forgiveness' is over-hyped.
All nonsense.
WTH is “pappy”
It’s all the boxes for me at 66 years of age. 🏌️⛳️😊
Can you compare Apex DCB 21 to Big Bertha 21