Hey man, my cpu will use 1.3 to 1.4 volts inside Need for Speed HEAT while being utilized around 40%, and other games as well. I know what I'm doing with my PC, so I usually clean reinstall windows for a fresh feeling of the things. The voltage that I said above is while using all stock settings in bios, using load optimized default settings, and without any other overclocking program. Also with a newer bios version, not the latest tho because I find it less stable for undervolting. I saw that amd says that 1.4 voltages can happen while gaming, and that ryzen 7000 uses more wattege than zen 3 or older. So my question is, since you said that your 7000 series cpus stay at around 1.25 volts, are they stock, and if so, is your ryzen 7 7700x also at 1.25 while gaming? Also, what do you think about this voltage? Idk, I usually stay with an CO of 20 on my ryzen 7 7700x while limiting the ppt and tdc, not edc tho, because I want my processor to give me that peak performance if possible, but staying generally at a lower temperature. And while gaming sits at around 1.30, only crossing 1.4 for a second very very rarely.
All what i did on R5 7600 was +200Mhz Auto OC and -60 CO in bios everything stable max core V is around 1.155v in prime/cb but when i try do it manually via voltage at first i would need much bigger voltage for cpu to be stable and temps went to 95C limit on stress test in the end achiving less performance
9:21 Nothing to worry about. Calling thing anyone married to you produces faster degradation and more time to spend by yourself or with your prefered silicone appliance.
@@AncientGameplays do you have any videos on oc and under volt the ryzen 5 7600. I run it with a rx 7800 xt and im trying to get the best performance. Mind you I’ve never had a pc before so don’t know a lot about what I’m doing
i was asking for this kind of video a few weeks ago, thanks for delivering. i was able to do a static overclock on my 7700x within the bios, of 5400MHz. i had to set the voltage to 1.250 though. it's faster than before, i can notice it especially with loading times of maps in online fps-games. also followed your gpu overclocking guide for nvidia and your guide on how to set the right ram-timings. now, i get about 10-15 fps more in games like cyberpunk. your channel is much appreciated.
I still use 5.4ghz 1.18v on my 7700x bcz you!! Tried every method and everything works very well but the static OC is the better option overall, for the 7700x at least!! Siga crl 💪
Love the channel the internet needs more AMD love on youtube, I also enjoy your lack of bias you just share the facts and your knowledge on AMD hardware shows
This is sort of how I oc'd my R5 2600 lol. People say not to use static voltage but either I'm too stupid to understand how off-set properly works or the way it works on this board is "wrong" (unintuitive). So I decided to stick with a safe, stable voltage and have had no issues (that I know of). For reference the "Optimized" results have it usually at 1.2v and then maybe it goes a bit lower when all cores are in use, but the processor never truly boosts or stays to 3.9Ghz as advertised. It barely touches 3.8 and stays usually in 3.725 or 3.75Ghz. Even with the new cooler (AK400 plus). For 3.9 with no issues, I can have it at 1.22V and it's more than ok. At 4.1 I do need to take it up a notch to 1.33 for full stability. I put it at 1.35 I believe just because it makes no difference and to be sure. It's an old boy but it still runs!
I had to turn SAM off on my 7900xtx to stop the stuttering every 2 to 5 seconds on warzone. My FPS would drop from 300 FPS to 150 FPS. Game was unplayable. It also caused issues on Helldivers 2 and starfield. Thanks for the video!
@@AncientGameplays I checked my bios and it was out of wack. With the latest bios,i loaded optimized default settings and so far i can have sam on now. Thanks for the help!
I play warzone on my music pc with a 13700k runs great, for some reason my 7800x3d system doesn’t Seam to like big maps or open world games you get really high average fps with terrible 1% lows.
@@brulaapgaapmeester8052 This is true but when games require more than the l3 cache can provide the single core performance of the 7800x3d isn’t good enough to keep up so you get inconsistent performance.
Very good video mate, exactly what I was looking for. Just recently bought a 7600x and I'm planning to use it with a Deep Cool AG400. It's the cooler I used with my 5600x 4.6 static OC and it performed amazingly, specially considering I live in a city that the normal temps are around 32~33ºC. I'm expecting mid 70sºC while gaming. Much love from Brazil ❤🇧🇷
I have tried to OC my 7800x3d twice (Ryzen Master and adrenaline) and both times just trying to enable the auto OC in those programs it bricked and I had to clear the CMOS. I have an MSI Mag B650 tomahawk mobo so I believe it should be capable. I have XMP profile 1 enabled for my Kingston fury 6000 mt/s (2x32). I'm wondering if that is causing the problem. I have fully tested the memory with memtest86, 4 cycles. All good. But I'm wondering if XMP and OC for the CPU is too much. Any thoughts? My power supply is a Seasonic Vertex 1200 so plenty of power
I have the same issue Pbo isn’t stable even as low as -15 offset Wondering if it’s expo on? And I heard LLC helps with stable pbo but I need to do more research
Thank you for the video as allways you explains are great and simple to understand, 10/10 fabio, you really help me to stop using Ryzen master and do it for the Bios.
Would curve optimizer work similarly? I have a ryzen 9 7900x, temps are all over the place (60 tp 90C with an 280mm cooler on an NR200p max) and I have seen it get to 1.5V in my Rog Strix X670I - E to 5.3 GHz. Lowering the voltages would give me a temperature drop, right?
Do you think you can get better efficiency by manually undervolting, or is AMD's Eco Mode already as good as it gets? With my 7950X, I've been using 105W Eco Mode and I hit 34700 points while drawing 145W in Cinebench R23. Do you think you could hit 34700 points while drawing even less power by manually undervolting? Or would that likely result in some instability?
@@AncientGameplays Okay thanks for the quick reply! To summarize your video, in order to undervolt without losing any performance, you'd need to both lower the voltage and raise the frequency, correct?
Thank you, your videos are always informative. Maybe you can help explain if I'm doing something wrong. I want to lower the temps of my new 7900X3D. It currently maxes out at 84C on Cinebench, and I'd like to get it down to 70-75C. I have a Gigabyte B650 Auorus Elite AX Ice. I've tried the PBO presets of 90 level 1, 80 level 1, 70 level 1 (all of which should limit temps), and have tried PBO Curve Optimizer -10, yet the CPU still maxes out at 84C regardless (Although my R23 score improved to 27500). Should I disable PBO and just look to change the voltage, or reduce the clocks? Also, should I use Process Lasso to optimize the usage? Will it improve anything if I tend to game at 4k and multitask at the same time (i.e. should I keep all cores available while gaming)?
I think I figured it out. I had to set PBO limit to manual and set the PPT mW to what I wanted (eg 115000 = 115W, which keeps me at 75C). I ignored the presets, but put the curve optimizer at -15. Still got 26980 in R23. I'm happy with that.
performance is around the same (from my tastings), but it is easier to measure static OC stability (as CO can crash in idle too) and usually temps are better on the 7000 series. Some odd CPUs like the 8700G are also better with static OC too
Great video, I just tried doing this for my 7500fz I have a couple of questions 1/ I noticed prime95 was making the cpu use more power (90w) than the tdp suggests. Comeback was using only 65w. Is this normal as I don’t think I changed my cpu power in bios. 2/ I was only able to get max 5.1ghz with static overlock at 1.22v. compared to 5.25 using pbo +200 and -25 CO. Does this seem strange? Temps are staying around 85-90deg using prime 95. Any help would be appreciated 👍🏼
Question, does a cpu overclock have an effect on memory oc, and vice versa? I'm considering tweaking the sub-timings of my ddr5 memory, and just thought I'd ask if messing around with my oc will do anything in terms of memory stability in a scenario where i've already tweaked the memory kit..?
Hi. I have a question regarding oc and uv. Im runnin my setup on ryzen 5 7500F I did undervolt in each core. 2 fastest cores -20mv and the rest -30mv. Thanks to this i have 20°c less on my cpu while playing demanding games. Can i add OC to this and have simultaneously OC + UV?
Hello sir, currently I'm new to tweaking CPUs, might ask if the Ryzen U series can undervolt too? or can it only raise the TDP to get good performance? I don't like increasing the TDP because the temperature will also be high *sorry for the poor english
@@AncientGameplays I tried PBO -20 all core and +100 MHz, but it wasn’t as efficient as setting the vcore to 1.2V and locking the clock at 5200MHz. When I adjusted it with PBO, the CPU-Z score was 5600-5700, but with the 1.2V 5200MHz setting, the score stabilized at around 5950. Cyberpunk 2077 also gave similar results, as there were no FPS drops to 6x-70 in the busiest city areas. The 1.2V 5200MHz setting gave a stable FPS above 7xfps.
I would have loved a comparison between the results you get vs. CO. I personally run my 7600 with -30, have been happy with it. My main reason for doing this is temps/noise. I know that there will always be individual differences, but you could have showed the difference between CO and static, using your own cpus, and the differences you got. Just an idea. You mentioned that the main difference are in terms of lower temps, which got me interested, but I dont know if its worth the effort/dealing with potential instability issues
i get rid of pbo and use manual overclock instead, but when idle it stays 5.35ghz how do i make it dynamic like pbo? 7500f 1.25v 5.35ghz asrock b650m pro rs wifi i gained 50fps in cs2 when i did manual overclock tho
What about 7800x3d what settings are best? Static OC doesn't work on x3d chips as far as i know. I have B650e-e motherboard from asus & 7800x3d. P.S. i bought a sapphire pulse rx 7900 xt after watching your reviews. Thanks!
I like undervolting because in factory they use voltage for worst case scenario cooling and hot climate so with good cooler you can save running cost. Overclock in past 4years is not a good idea factory push it behind best point so little underclocking to find best efficient point is good idea where linear Voltage starts turning exponential. Overclock should be recomended for old games that use 2 cores.
@@AncientGameplays Indeed it is an ASRock A620I lightning yadayada mini ITX mainboard. So no CPU OC. But as I understand the main thing is memory OC anyway so hopefully all okay. Got it for cheap so worth a try before buying a more expensive one. I put the savings in a better GPU so I have the 7900XT now instead of the original plan of buying an 7900GRE. Not sure if I optimized correctly in my from scratch build but it felt like the right choice.
Thanks for helping us out. With cure optimizer at -15 my system doesnt crash but after 30-45 minutes of games, system freze or crash. Is this better solution than curve opt. or just my 7700 cpu sucks?
Awesome video, been loving my 7800x3d but the 24.5.1 drivers made CPU temp stop reporting and ryzen master shows either all zeros or zeros and negative 1’s. Any info on why that might be happening or a solution?
Great video. Fabio, how are you? Man, I'm having a problem with my pc, which is hard to find information on the Internet. I have an R7 7800X3D, MSI B650 Tomahawk, 32 gb ram 2x16 XPG Lancer 6000 mHz CL40, 1 sata ssd for the system and had an HD for games and documents, 720p monitor from LG. I build the computer in July last year and I'm using the integrated graphics, To wait the launch of the new generation of gpus from AMD and Nvidia. Recently, I replaced the hard drive with a Crucial P3 plus ssd (I was unemployed and I needed to change my hard drive, but I was short on money). After I changed the hd for the ssd, the problem started to happen that, when I play, voltage peaks in the VDD_soc that reach 1.38 V. Before I made the switch from the hard drive to the ssd, in whatever bios I was in, I played games and never gave these peaks. It always stayed below 1.30 V. I even used override mode at 1.290V and there was never any problem. After I put in the SSD, reinstalled games, etc., the problem started to occur and I tried to return to the HD to check if the problem would continue, and, in fact, the problem continued to occur. but the problem persisted, so I went back to the ssd. I needed to reduce the processor voltage to 1.22V, with an offset of 0.05V. Would you or someone from the channel have any tip, information or help that may have happened? I'm afraid that something has happened to the motherboard or processor. Cheers from Brazil.
Your the AMD guy, amazing videos!!Took me a while to understand this video between CO and static. But I believe I did something wrong. I also used “Ryzen Master” to get the voltage values but now the settings from ryzen master are stuck somehow? Now the cpu is stuck on base clock, all the time. I deleted ryzen master with ccleaner and the cpu is not boosting anymore? I would love to hear any possible solution from you. thank you 🙏🏼
Hey man, I watched the entire video along with some others you have, and I’m still not sure how far I can undervolt/overclock my cpu. I got a ryzen 5 7600x with a b650 eagle AX mobo, 2x 16gb 5600 ram. I have gone as low as 1.12 volts and 5200ghz. I’ve been using the ryzen master to overclock/undervolt. Could you do a video on it?
I personally don't use Ryzen Master, and as explained in this video, ALL CPUS ARE DIFFERENT, meaning that you need to really lose some time and test the stability of yours :D
@@AncientGameplays I wanna do it through the bios but not everyone is using my mobo. It’s hard to find those settings when the mobo is different than the one you’re using. Any guidance using the b650 Eagle AX?
It was shame that I have no idea about PC parts for many years so I checked with my friend who is still catching up PC parts news. Because I wanted to get a budget desktop but not too budget last year. He suggested me to go for Intel CPU (i5-12400F which is good) since AM4 platform is nearly "ended", AM5 is expensive especially DDR5 RAM. But I just found out AMD has a few best value CPUs for gaming recently.... Anyway, I also believe my current CPU still can last me for many years😊
I have a ch 560 case i places 2 more intake bottom 2 more top exhaust fans my cpu temp didnt change i played today whit bios 1.25 voltage max 5.4Ghz stable clock Temps dropped from 78->66 Curve optimizer -20 Pbo T limit 85 Im happy know and saturday im going to place another fan to my CPU cooler
I took my 7800x3d and did just a flat -25 curve… works well enough… but then took a radiator (added to my water loop) and ran it into my house‘s AC duct. Idle temps on the 7900xtx 20c and cpu 22c with a max of 53-57c at full load 😂 it’s getting hot where I live and my cats only know a consistent 70f at all times so it’s beneficial for my desktop… lol
@@Slushkinat that time it was a 320+240 and a 120 inside the AC duct. Now it’s an Alphacool supernova 1260+320+240 and that 1260 has an AC duct with two 3in holes aimed at it. Max load sits closer to 30-40c now on the GPU with that amount of water and summer time AC pumping onto the big supernova
Obrigado, Jesus! Consegui fazer no meu Ryzen 5 7600. Estou usando em 5.35ghz a 1.130v. mais frio, consumindo menos e fazendo mais pontos no cinebench 🤝🏻
Hello dude, thanks for this video ! I juste bought ryzen 7900 (non x) for MAO ( music production )could you give me some advices for this one please ? Goal is ultimate silence and low temperature. Many thanks !
I assume static OC increases idle fan noise and power draw since it runs full tilt all the time, whereas curve optimizer dynamic OC keeps idle power/noise lower.
i didn't won the silicon lottery, my 7500F just handle 5.05Ghz at 1.17V if i set higher multiplier the temperature go beyond 95ºC or am i missing something? My board is Aorus Elite B650 AX RAM 6400 32-40-40-77 and fclock 2067
i forgot to mention with direct OC or PBO OC my power draw is less than 65W and OC'ing with PBO the maximum reached frequency was 4.9~ but scored on cinebench over 14k and with direct OC sometimes scored bellow 13.5K now i'm trying whith Fclock, Dramclk and latencies
Voltage and frequency is too high for your case to handle. Also I am not sure your performance increases. So try to find lower voltage and stable frequency for better and durable performance.
@@huseyin8751 I reached stable 5.1 @1.18v with some other tweaks like fclock dram clock, memory timmings and subtimmings. currently i think is not possible to perform more than this
Dude, hi! im here for another problem 🥲 can you helpme? is not my first time on the channel. I build my new pc, which have B650E Aorus Elite AX Ice. 16x2 LEXAR ARES 6800 Mhz. And CPU R7 7800x3D. My problem comes with the Boot. My computer is already working with BIOS updated.. But if i activate the EXPO profile the rams are working on 6800 mhz and i think thats is not stable. Can i set the speed manually? maybe i know where but this menú inside Aorus is complete new for me and i can't find any guide inside oficial page. Can i send you some mail with pictures, the only thing i want to do is to low the speed on my rams and do the undervolt to the ryzen later. Thanks for reed. Have a good day!
My 7500f processor crashes within seconds when running p95 using 5250 mhz and 1.17V. I use kingbank 16x2 6400mhz cl32 memories and the motherboard is a b650 gaming plus. So that it can withstand p95 low up to 5200mhz 1.17V where it reaches 91°C
Nice vid,man! Can you give me your 7500f overclocking values for low temp and same performance? I have my 7500f on an MSI B650M-B mobo. Thanks in advance!
I can do ccd0 5.4ghz and ccd1 5.3 ghz with 1.29v with my 7950x and it is stable in everything. But with AVX it goes to 323w and 110c and crash in 5 sec. I can do cinebench loop 30 min and never goes more than 87c.
I do not know either but I guess they are indicating the max temperature (90level... can mean 90 degrees max target but I still do not know what do the levels mean ). But do not touch this, it is quite misleading. PBO can be enabled with custom settings somewhere under CPU settings or AMD overclocking (can't remember from the top of head.) You can tweak the CPU package power (PPT) there too and that is also a good way to lower temps.
For ex. 80 level 4, it mean 80 degrees Celsius max temperature and pbo curve optimization -40, 70 level 5, it mean 70 degrees Celsius max temperature and pbo curve optimization -50 and so on.
Im trying to oc my 7700x bc it still says 4.5 :'3 im tryina up it for more fps. I used c.o. to put it to -20, less hot a bit more preformance and less temps. But i want to do what yall do wit it
Hi jesus my cpu gpu and ram have been stable but i am crashing on helldivers even at lower graphics settings need advice cpu 7600x ryzen master default gpu 6800xt 2400 to 2500 hz fast timings (does not even get stressed much actually) ram g.skill 6000 mhz expo profile vdd 1.35 Volt i am fairly certain it is a cpu thing but just why
5800x3d/ -30 all cores/ PPT limit 100 / TDC limit 70 / EDC limit 100 . On asus b550 rog strix-f, don't upgrade bios to last one , and cpu will hit 4959 on 6 cores 12 treads 4749 2 cores 4 treads I upgrade to the new bios, it's 4549 on 6 cors 12 treads 4449 on 2 cores 4 treds I'm just going to go to the bios I had , not the new last bios it locks it. My opinion.
Since the arrival of Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) v2.0 and the options (Curve Optimizer, Max Boost Frequency Offset, etc.) several years ago, manual overclocking on Ryzen has become completely useless and even counterproductive (particularly on single thread performance), the only manual overclocking which is still of interest is adjusting the frequency of the InfinityFabric (FClock) and again this is starting to lose power. interest since the arrival of CPUs with 3DV-Cache, their additional L3 cache allowing them to strongly compensate for slow RAM and IF.
As explained, no, that's false. Static OC was useless for the 3000/4000/5000/6000 Chips, but Ryzen 7000/8000 actually benefit from manual overclocking. I even test Curve Optimizer versus manual OC, and I very much prefer the static OC temperature wise
@@AncientGameplays I think HWinfo64 may not be polling the right sensors, I made sure everything was set properly, no EXPO or anything that can bump voltage. It runs fine and the temps are normal. The board is a Gigabyte B650M-D3SH.
@@Sightbain. The thing is, if I manually set it to 1.225V I can run it at 5.45ghz all day. Its been set that way for months. I went back and started over to see if I could get higher after watching this video and discovered the default voltages were nuts.
no you can't lol. The higher the boost clock with CO, the lower the mutli core will be. Also, most CPUs can only do -15 stable, and lots of people think they have their system "stable" but it just isn't. not even mentioning the temperature difference. MUCH lower on the 7000 series with static OC
If you want to overclock the Ryzen 1000, 2000, 3000 & 5000 Series, I also have this video :D
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Hey man, my cpu will use 1.3 to 1.4 volts inside Need for Speed HEAT while being utilized around 40%, and other games as well.
I know what I'm doing with my PC, so I usually clean reinstall windows for a fresh feeling of the things. The voltage that I said above is while using all stock settings in bios, using load optimized default settings, and without any other overclocking program. Also with a newer bios version, not the latest tho because I find it less stable for undervolting.
I saw that amd says that 1.4 voltages can happen while gaming, and that ryzen 7000 uses more wattege than zen 3 or older.
So my question is, since you said that your 7000 series cpus stay at around 1.25 volts, are they stock, and if so, is your ryzen 7 7700x also at 1.25 while gaming? Also, what do you think about this voltage?
Idk, I usually stay with an CO of 20 on my ryzen 7 7700x while limiting the ppt and tdc, not edc tho, because I want my processor to give me that peak performance if possible, but staying generally at a lower temperature. And while gaming sits at around 1.30, only crossing 1.4 for a second very very rarely.
So what can we do to the x3ds, apart from CO or dropping the tdp? x3d dips is a thing
All what i did on R5 7600 was +200Mhz Auto OC and -60 CO in bios everything stable max core V is around 1.155v in prime/cb but when i try do it manually via voltage at first i would need much bigger voltage for cpu to be stable and temps went to 95C limit on stress test in the end achiving less performance
@@kaisersolo76 In some motherboards you can use Curve Optimizer
Can u please do the OC demo on a Asus board please. MSI is so confusing.
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For sure, that reminds me my ex-wife.
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9:21 Nothing to worry about. Calling thing anyone married to you produces faster degradation and more time to spend by yourself or with your prefered silicone appliance.
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Just bought 7 7800x3d🎉 love from you poland jesus
awesome CPU!
How much did you pay for that CPU?
@@AncientGameplays do you have any videos on oc and under volt the ryzen 5 7600. I run it with a rx 7800 xt and im trying to get the best performance. Mind you I’ve never had a pc before so don’t know a lot about what I’m doing
@@gezimlimoni2319 380$
Same here. I had a 7700x-Php19k i just couldn't pass up a good deal 7800x3d for Php20k.
i was asking for this kind of video a few weeks ago, thanks for delivering. i was able to do a static overclock on my 7700x within the bios, of 5400MHz. i had to set the voltage to 1.250 though. it's faster than before, i can notice it especially with loading times of maps in online fps-games. also followed your gpu overclocking guide for nvidia and your guide on how to set the right ram-timings. now, i get about 10-15 fps more in games like cyberpunk. your channel is much appreciated.
i have also noticed that my cpu temps are about 10 degress lower than before. it really is a win win for me. thanks again for your advice Fabio.
Glad to help! Big hug
Just wanted to drop by and say that you're my goto youtube channel for anything AMD.
Thank you, always glad to help!
I got my 7600x to 5.7ghz. Its stable but man that thing is hotter than the sun 💀💀
I still use 5.4ghz 1.18v on my 7700x bcz you!!
Tried every method and everything works very well but the static OC is the better option overall, for the 7700x at least!!
Siga crl 💪
exactly my experience :D
I'm waiting for my 7900x and 6900xt so I can start playing with undervolting, to drop those temps a bit and power draw but keep the performance. 🥳
Agreed haha
Very good video. Can you please make a extra video on the 7800x3D how to lower temps and overclock?
Thank you my friend! Awesome video.
Glad to help!
Love the channel the internet needs more AMD love on youtube, I also enjoy your lack of bias you just share the facts and your knowledge on AMD hardware shows
Thank you. I am alwyas unbiased regardless of what people say
My 7800x3d come tomorrow to replace my burned out 13700k. Im really looking forward to it.
Masterpiece. Well done 🎉
Thanks!
Very good guide. Noticed that at fixed CPU speed some of my games load a bit faster than before. Like Ghost of Tsushima and Forza Horizon 5.
Awesome video as always, super helpful!
Glad to help!
This is sort of how I oc'd my R5 2600 lol. People say not to use static voltage but either I'm too stupid to understand how off-set properly works or the way it works on this board is "wrong" (unintuitive). So I decided to stick with a safe, stable voltage and have had no issues (that I know of).
For reference the "Optimized" results have it usually at 1.2v and then maybe it goes a bit lower when all cores are in use, but the processor never truly boosts or stays to 3.9Ghz as advertised. It barely touches 3.8 and stays usually in 3.725 or 3.75Ghz. Even with the new cooler (AK400 plus). For 3.9 with no issues, I can have it at 1.22V and it's more than ok. At 4.1 I do need to take it up a notch to 1.33 for full stability. I put it at 1.35 I believe just because it makes no difference and to be sure.
It's an old boy but it still runs!
Love your vids, keep it up!
Logical explanation, good tutorial.
Thank you
I had to turn SAM off on my 7900xtx to stop the stuttering every 2 to 5 seconds on warzone. My FPS would drop from 300 FPS to 150 FPS. Game was unplayable. It also caused issues on Helldivers 2 and starfield. Thanks for the video!
Odd, you have some issues there and I doubt SAM is the culprit. I would look into CPU and RAM stability and updating BIOS and chipset drivers too
@@AncientGameplays I checked my bios and it was out of wack. With the latest bios,i loaded optimized default settings and so far i can have sam on now. Thanks for the help!
I play warzone on my music pc with a 13700k runs great, for some reason my 7800x3d system doesn’t Seam to like big maps or open world games you get really high average fps with terrible 1% lows.
@@exception6651 Big maps are more a memory thing, not the CPU.
@@brulaapgaapmeester8052 This is true but when games require more than the l3 cache can provide the single core performance of the 7800x3d isn’t good enough to keep up so you get inconsistent performance.
Great video!
Hey sir just bought 7700X and im curious which voltage should I put for 5100-5200 mhz ?
I do have water cooling
Very good video mate, exactly what I was looking for. Just recently bought a 7600x and I'm planning to use it with a Deep Cool AG400. It's the cooler I used with my 5600x 4.6 static OC and it performed amazingly, specially considering I live in a city that the normal temps are around 32~33ºC. I'm expecting mid 70sºC while gaming. Much love from Brazil ❤🇧🇷
Mine 7600x ak500s 70 degrees call of duty 85 degrees in need for speed ....
@@sinanakar5170Stock or undervolted?
@@leandrotavares8463 stock
I have tried to OC my 7800x3d twice (Ryzen Master and adrenaline) and both times just trying to enable the auto OC in those programs it bricked and I had to clear the CMOS. I have an MSI Mag B650 tomahawk mobo so I believe it should be capable.
I have XMP profile 1 enabled for my Kingston fury 6000 mt/s (2x32). I'm wondering if that is causing the problem. I have fully tested the memory with memtest86, 4 cycles. All good. But I'm wondering if XMP and OC for the CPU is too much. Any thoughts? My power supply is a Seasonic Vertex 1200 so plenty of power
I have the same issue
Pbo isn’t stable even as low as -15 offset
Wondering if it’s expo on? And I heard LLC helps with stable pbo but I need to do more research
Thank you for the video as allways you explains are great and simple to understand, 10/10 fabio, you really help me to stop using Ryzen master and do it for the Bios.
Glad I could help!
Would you be willing to do a video on memory tuning? I'd like to improve my ddr4 ram to get a tiny bit more from my 5800x3d
Did that ages ago, but memory tuning (DDR4) is a pain in the ass
@@AncientGameplays ah okay no worries, thanks for letting me know
Nice video, my 7600x works stably at 5450Mhz 1.21v. Temperature under load cinabench r23 max 79c
Great!
Bro, did you make your settings like in this video?
Try prime 95 for 10 mins.
Would curve optimizer work similarly? I have a ryzen 9 7900x, temps are all over the place (60 tp 90C with an 280mm cooler on an NR200p max) and I have seen it get to 1.5V in my Rog Strix X670I - E to 5.3 GHz. Lowering the voltages would give me a temperature drop, right?
Not entirely as explained
hello nice video should i buy a 7600x or a 7600 ?
What is the best way to Over/underclock my Ryzen 7800X3D
Do you think you can get better efficiency by manually undervolting, or is AMD's Eco Mode already as good as it gets?
With my 7950X, I've been using 105W Eco Mode and I hit 34700 points while drawing 145W in Cinebench R23.
Do you think you could hit 34700 points while drawing even less power by manually undervolting? Or would that likely result in some instability?
Efficiency will be the same mostly, but manual tweaking will lead to more perf at the same powee draw usually
@@AncientGameplays Okay thanks for the quick reply!
To summarize your video, in order to undervolt without losing any performance, you'd need to both lower the voltage and raise the frequency, correct?
Thank you, your videos are always informative. Maybe you can help explain if I'm doing something wrong. I want to lower the temps of my new 7900X3D. It currently maxes out at 84C on Cinebench, and I'd like to get it down to 70-75C. I have a Gigabyte B650 Auorus Elite AX Ice. I've tried the PBO presets of 90 level 1, 80 level 1, 70 level 1 (all of which should limit temps), and have tried PBO Curve Optimizer -10, yet the CPU still maxes out at 84C regardless (Although my R23 score improved to 27500). Should I disable PBO and just look to change the voltage, or reduce the clocks? Also, should I use Process Lasso to optimize the usage? Will it improve anything if I tend to game at 4k and multitask at the same time (i.e. should I keep all cores available while gaming)?
I think I figured it out. I had to set PBO limit to manual and set the PPT mW to what I wanted (eg 115000 = 115W, which keeps me at 75C). I ignored the presets, but put the curve optimizer at -15. Still got 26980 in R23. I'm happy with that.
Most of the time i just use CurveOptimizer -20/30 allcore if i build Ryzen systems , i was lazy to measure the performance vs static OC .
performance is around the same (from my tastings), but it is easier to measure static OC stability (as CO can crash in idle too) and usually temps are better on the 7000 series. Some odd CPUs like the 8700G are also better with static OC too
Great video, I just tried doing this for my 7500fz I have a couple of questions
1/ I noticed prime95 was making the cpu use more power (90w) than the tdp suggests. Comeback was using only 65w. Is this normal as I don’t think I changed my cpu power in bios.
2/ I was only able to get max 5.1ghz with static overlock at 1.22v. compared to 5.25 using pbo +200 and -25 CO. Does this seem strange? Temps are staying around 85-90deg using prime 95.
Any help would be appreciated 👍🏼
Porra já vejo o teu canal a algum tempo só agora é que percebi que és português 😂. Parabéns pelo excelente conteúdo
Obrigado, um abraço!
Do some Ryzen master Underclock/Manual OC videos..
Question, does a cpu overclock have an effect on memory oc, and vice versa? I'm considering tweaking the sub-timings of my ddr5 memory, and just thought I'd ask if messing around with my oc will do anything in terms of memory stability in a scenario where i've already tweaked the memory kit..?
Hi.
I have a question regarding oc and uv.
Im runnin my setup on ryzen 5 7500F
I did undervolt in each core.
2 fastest cores -20mv and the rest -30mv. Thanks to this i have 20°c less on my cpu while playing demanding games.
Can i add OC to this and have simultaneously OC + UV?
From video - it is unclear where do you get wattages from. it is not shown on a screen. Can you add more highlighters in the vid?
Obviously hwinfo64 too.
Hello sir, currently I'm new to tweaking CPUs, might ask if the Ryzen U series can undervolt too? or can it only raise the TDP to get good performance? I don't like increasing the TDP because the temperature will also be high
*sorry for the poor english
Should you use PBO or adjust as you do to get the best results?
Curve as stated
@@AncientGameplays I tried PBO -20 all core and +100 MHz, but it wasn’t as efficient as setting the vcore to 1.2V and locking the clock at 5200MHz. When I adjusted it with PBO, the CPU-Z score was 5600-5700, but with the 1.2V 5200MHz setting, the score stabilized at around 5950. Cyberpunk 2077 also gave similar results, as there were no FPS drops to 6x-70 in the busiest city areas. The 1.2V 5200MHz setting gave a stable FPS above 7xfps.
@@AncientGameplays I also tried setting it at 5250MHz 1.195V, but it crashed. Should I try a lower vcore with the 5200MHz clock speed?, thank you
I would have loved a comparison between the results you get vs. CO. I personally run my 7600 with -30, have been happy with it. My main reason for doing this is temps/noise. I know that there will always be individual differences, but you could have showed the difference between CO and static, using your own cpus, and the differences you got. Just an idea. You mentioned that the main difference are in terms of lower temps, which got me interested, but I dont know if its worth the effort/dealing with potential instability issues
I did that before qith my 7700x
Hey, will you consider doing undervolting/overclocking video about ryzen 5700x3d?
X3D CPUs can't be overclocked/undervolted. Some motherboards allow it, but sometimes you get equal performance or even less (my experience)
@@AncientGameplaysso for 5700x3d nothing can be done? Because the cpu temperature goes too high sometimes😢
i get rid of pbo and use manual overclock instead, but when idle it stays 5.35ghz how do i make it dynamic like pbo?
7500f 1.25v 5.35ghz asrock b650m pro rs wifi
i gained 50fps in cs2 when i did manual overclock tho
What about 7800x3d what settings are best? Static OC doesn't work on x3d chips as far as i know. I have B650e-e motherboard from asus & 7800x3d. P.S. i bought a sapphire pulse rx 7900 xt after watching your reviews. Thanks!
Hey body 😊 I really enjoy your videos every time you post them keep it up 👍🏼
Q:What is the voltage limit value that I can’t go over it?
R9 7950x3d
I guess I forgot to mention but X3D CPUs can't do static OC, the best thing you can try is curve optimizer, and some boards don't allow it as well
Will there still be some power saving and low voltages when the cpu is idle like this?
I like undervolting because in factory they use voltage for worst case scenario cooling and hot climate so with good cooler you can save running cost. Overclock in past 4years is not a good idea factory push it behind best point so little underclocking to find best efficient point is good idea where linear Voltage starts turning exponential. Overclock should be recomended for old games that use 2 cores.
Watched this and near the end realised that my mainboard does not even allow CPU OC lol
Unless it is an a320/620, it does
@@AncientGameplays Indeed it is an ASRock A620I lightning yadayada mini ITX mainboard. So no CPU OC. But as I understand the main thing is memory OC anyway so hopefully all okay. Got it for cheap so worth a try before buying a more expensive one. I put the savings in a better GPU so I have the 7900XT now instead of the original plan of buying an 7900GRE. Not sure if I optimized correctly in my from scratch build but it felt like the right choice.
Thanks for helping us out. With cure optimizer at -15 my system doesnt crash but after 30-45 minutes of games, system freze or crash. Is this better solution than curve opt. or just my 7700 cpu sucks?
-15 may be too much for some states. Use this and see what you can get
Awesome video, been loving my 7800x3d but the 24.5.1 drivers made CPU temp stop reporting and ryzen master shows either all zeros or zeros and negative 1’s. Any info on why that might be happening or a solution?
Just use MSI afterburner, Nvidia and AMD overlays are way too limited
Afterburner + rivatuner goated software @@AncientGameplays
Great video.
Fabio, how are you? Man, I'm having a problem with my pc, which is hard to find information on the Internet. I have an R7 7800X3D, MSI B650 Tomahawk, 32 gb ram 2x16 XPG Lancer 6000 mHz CL40, 1 sata ssd for the system and had an HD for games and documents, 720p monitor from LG. I build the computer in July last year and I'm using the integrated graphics, To wait the launch of the new generation of gpus from AMD and Nvidia. Recently, I replaced the hard drive with a Crucial P3 plus ssd (I was unemployed and I needed to change my hard drive, but I was short on money). After I changed the hd for the ssd, the problem started to happen that, when I play, voltage peaks in the VDD_soc that reach 1.38 V. Before I made the switch from the hard drive to the ssd, in whatever bios I was in, I played games and never gave these peaks. It always stayed below 1.30 V. I even used override mode at 1.290V and there was never any problem. After I put in the SSD, reinstalled games, etc., the problem started to occur and I tried to return to the HD to check if the problem would continue, and, in fact, the problem continued to occur. but the problem persisted, so I went back to the ssd. I needed to reduce the processor voltage to 1.22V, with an offset of 0.05V. Would you or someone from the channel have any tip, information or help that may have happened?
I'm afraid that something has happened to the motherboard or processor.
Cheers from Brazil.
What about non X? I have Ryzen 7 7700. PBO with negative curve optimizer is better?
Listen to the video mate
@@AncientGameplays I watched all of this clip but might miss the info you said
Your the AMD guy, amazing videos!!Took me a while to understand this video between CO and static. But I believe I did something wrong. I also used “Ryzen Master” to get the voltage values but now the settings from ryzen master are stuck somehow? Now the cpu is stuck on base clock, all the time. I deleted ryzen master with ccleaner and the cpu is not boosting anymore? I would love to hear any possible solution from you. thank you 🙏🏼
Don't use ccleaner to begin with. Now go to bios and fix that. Don't use ryzen master
@@AncientGameplays got it 🫶🏼 much love
Hey man, I watched the entire video along with some others you have, and I’m still not sure how far I can undervolt/overclock my cpu. I got a ryzen 5 7600x with a b650 eagle AX mobo, 2x 16gb 5600 ram. I have gone as low as 1.12 volts and 5200ghz. I’ve been using the ryzen master to overclock/undervolt. Could you do a video on it?
I personally don't use Ryzen Master, and as explained in this video, ALL CPUS ARE DIFFERENT, meaning that you need to really lose some time and test the stability of yours :D
@@AncientGameplays I wanna do it through the bios but not everyone is using my mobo. It’s hard to find those settings when the mobo is different than the one you’re using. Any guidance using the b650 Eagle AX?
Let's go!
yeahhh
Good old times when you are testing with PBO, Curve Optimizer and telling which one is good.
Uh? Not the point here
The CPU Ratio field is inactive, it is set to auto and cannot be changed. r5 7500f, b650 carbon.
That is odd, try updating the bios. Also you need to change the tweak settings from normal to advanced in the top
not sure what exactly the label on English in HWiNFO for getting GHz? also, so many frequency here.
It was shame that I have no idea about PC parts for many years so I checked with my friend who is still catching up PC parts news.
Because I wanted to get a budget desktop but not too budget last year.
He suggested me to go for Intel CPU (i5-12400F which is good) since AM4 platform is nearly "ended", AM5 is expensive especially DDR5 RAM.
But I just found out AMD has a few best value CPUs for gaming recently....
Anyway, I also believe my current CPU still can last me for many years😊
You're still quite okay mate, don't worry
@@AncientGameplays Haha, QUITE only...😂😂
What FCLK are you using on the 6000MTs memory?
the usual 2000MHz
I have a ch 560 case i places 2 more intake bottom 2 more top exhaust fans my cpu temp didnt change i played today whit bios 1.25 voltage max
5.4Ghz stable clock
Temps dropped from 78->66
Curve optimizer -20
Pbo T limit 85
Im happy know and saturday im going to place another fan to my CPU cooler
I took my 7800x3d and did just a flat -25 curve… works well enough… but then took a radiator (added to my water loop) and ran it into my house‘s AC duct. Idle temps on the 7900xtx 20c and cpu 22c with a max of 53-57c at full load 😂 it’s getting hot where I live and my cats only know a consistent 70f at all times so it’s beneficial for my desktop… lol
Those are crazy low temperatures! How large is your loop?. Mine is 600mm total
@@Slushkinat that time it was a 320+240 and a 120 inside the AC duct.
Now it’s an Alphacool supernova 1260+320+240 and that 1260 has an AC duct with two 3in holes aimed at it. Max load sits closer to 30-40c now on the GPU with that amount of water and summer time AC pumping onto the big supernova
Obrigado, Jesus! Consegui fazer no meu Ryzen 5 7600. Estou usando em 5.35ghz a 1.130v. mais frio, consumindo menos e fazendo mais pontos no cinebench 🤝🏻
Isso sim é de valor! Fico contente!
Hello dude, thanks for this video ! I juste bought ryzen 7900 (non x) for MAO ( music production )could you give me some advices for this one please ? Goal is ultimate silence and low temperature. Many thanks !
i am running the R5 7600x on 5.5 Ghz with max. Temperatur of 75°C, due to curve optimizer. Should i leave it as it is? Thank you for your work!
You can always test it mate. Also, you sure it is 5.5GHz in all cores? Tested CB24 and Prime95 for stability too?
I assume static OC increases idle fan noise and power draw since it runs full tilt all the time, whereas curve optimizer dynamic OC keeps idle power/noise lower.
Full frequency doesn't mean full usage. The idle power draw increases like 5 to 8w usually. Zero difference
Nicce :D
i didn't won the silicon lottery, my 7500F just handle 5.05Ghz at 1.17V if i set higher multiplier the temperature go beyond 95ºC or am i missing something? My board is Aorus Elite B650 AX RAM 6400 32-40-40-77 and fclock 2067
i forgot to mention with direct OC or PBO OC my power draw is less than 65W and OC'ing with PBO the maximum reached frequency was 4.9~ but scored on cinebench over 14k and with direct OC sometimes scored bellow 13.5K now i'm trying whith Fclock, Dramclk and latencies
Voltage and frequency is too high for your case to handle. Also I am not sure your performance increases. So try to find lower voltage and stable frequency for better and durable performance.
@@huseyin8751 I reached stable 5.1 @1.18v with some other tweaks like fclock dram clock, memory timmings and subtimmings. currently i think is not possible to perform more than this
Dude, hi! im here for another problem 🥲 can you helpme? is not my first time on the channel.
I build my new pc, which have B650E Aorus Elite AX Ice. 16x2 LEXAR ARES 6800 Mhz. And CPU R7 7800x3D.
My problem comes with the Boot. My computer is already working with BIOS updated.. But if i activate the EXPO profile the rams are working on 6800 mhz and i think thats is not stable.
Can i set the speed manually? maybe i know where but this menú inside Aorus is complete new for me and i can't find any guide inside oficial page.
Can i send you some mail with pictures, the only thing i want to do is to low the speed on my rams and do the undervolt to the ryzen later.
Thanks for reed. Have a good day!
Does this apply on r9 7950x?
It does of course
My 7500f processor crashes within seconds when running p95 using 5250 mhz and 1.17V. I use kingbank 16x2 6400mhz cl32 memories and the motherboard is a b650 gaming plus. So that it can withstand p95 low up to 5200mhz 1.17V where it reaches 91°C
Nice vid,man! Can you give me your 7500f overclocking values for low temp and same performance? I have my 7500f on an MSI B650M-B mobo. Thanks in advance!
All CPUs are different man, follow the steps to keep your CPU safe :D
I believe I state my numbers in the video
I can do ccd0 5.4ghz and ccd1 5.3 ghz with 1.29v with my 7950x and it is stable in everything. But with AVX it goes to 323w and 110c and crash in 5 sec. I can do cinebench loop 30 min and never goes more than 87c.
I have a question, I have a 7600x with a gigabyte b650 elite v2 and I tried to enable pbo but it has a bunch of different profiles. What do they mean?
I do not know either but I guess they are indicating the max temperature (90level... can mean 90 degrees max target but I still do not know what do the levels mean ). But do not touch this, it is quite misleading. PBO can be enabled with custom settings somewhere under CPU settings or AMD overclocking (can't remember from the top of head.) You can tweak the CPU package power (PPT) there too and that is also a good way to lower temps.
For ex. 80 level 4, it mean 80 degrees Celsius max temperature and pbo curve optimization -40, 70 level 5, it mean 70 degrees Celsius max temperature and pbo curve optimization -50 and so on.
It is very easy with that profiles. I have same board but first version.
You have to enable one of that profile and that is all.
Im trying to oc my 7700x bc it still says 4.5 :'3 im tryina up it for more fps. I used c.o. to put it to -20, less hot a bit more preformance and less temps. But i want to do what yall do wit it
Im confused, is this a overclock video or a undervolt video, im trying to learn how to undervolt but youre talking about overclocking???
Listen mate, listen. You can do both at the same time
Hi jesus
my cpu gpu and ram have been stable but i am crashing on helldivers even at lower graphics settings need advice
cpu 7600x ryzen master default
gpu 6800xt 2400 to 2500 hz fast timings (does not even get stressed much actually)
ram g.skill 6000 mhz expo profile vdd 1.35 Volt
i am fairly certain it is a cpu thing but just why
What is the game at 1:58 ?
5800x3d/ -30 all cores/ PPT limit 100 / TDC limit 70 / EDC limit 100 . On asus b550 rog strix-f, don't upgrade bios to last one , and cpu will hit 4959 on 6 cores 12 treads 4749 2 cores 4 treads I upgrade to the new bios, it's 4549 on 6 cors 12 treads 4449 on 2 cores 4 treds I'm just going to go to the bios I had , not the new last bios it locks it. My opinion.
Since the arrival of Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) v2.0 and the options (Curve Optimizer, Max Boost Frequency Offset, etc.) several years ago, manual overclocking on Ryzen has become completely useless and even counterproductive (particularly on single thread performance), the only manual overclocking which is still of interest is adjusting the frequency of the InfinityFabric (FClock) and again this is starting to lose power. interest since the arrival of CPUs with 3DV-Cache, their additional L3 cache allowing them to strongly compensate for slow RAM and IF.
As explained, no, that's false. Static OC was useless for the 3000/4000/5000/6000 Chips, but Ryzen 7000/8000 actually benefit from manual overclocking. I even test Curve Optimizer versus manual OC, and I very much prefer the static OC temperature wise
Do you know what the cpu core voltage is called in ASUS bios?
vcore maybe
I have a ryzen 7 7700 sir what the max ghz and whats the perfect voltages?
Listen to the video
My 7700X is pushing 1.45V in CB24 and 1.320V in P95 🥵
What??? That's insane! You sure you're watching the right voltage? Time to put it down haha
@@AncientGameplays I think HWinfo64 may not be polling the right sensors, I made sure everything was set properly, no EXPO or anything that can bump voltage. It runs fine and the temps are normal. The board is a Gigabyte B650M-D3SH.
Mine does similar, no shot am I getting 5.4 stable without using Liquid Nitrogen lmao.
@@Sightbain. The thing is, if I manually set it to 1.225V I can run it at 5.45ghz all day. Its been set that way for months. I went back and started over to see if I could get higher after watching this video and discovered the default voltages were nuts.
Can i oc my r7 7800x3d and should i do it or the performance will not change a lot
x3D chips can't OC. You can use curve optimizer there for better temps though
@@AncientGameplays thank you for ur answer, so if i have good temps i dont really need curve optimizer i should just use it raw ?
@@ycf7870 just don't bother then, you have an excellent cpu
@@AncientGameplays thank u for ur time to answer and these videos since i discovered u i always watch ahah ❤️
My 7500f stock hits 1.32v on cinebench, guess I have a bad bin or something
nah, the cpu adjust themselves automatically, you can adjust things too as well
Why complicate things you can just set CO -30 and PBO +200 and have the same overclock.
no you can't lol. The higher the boost clock with CO, the lower the mutli core will be. Also, most CPUs can only do -15 stable, and lots of people think they have their system "stable" but it just isn't.
not even mentioning the temperature difference. MUCH lower on the 7000 series with static OC
so static oc dont work on 7800x3d?
nope, not on X3D CPUs (due to 3D cache)
@@AncientGameplays Thanks for the quick reply
So wait you can’t OC x3d chips? I have a 7800x3d
You can't. Never could. You can use curve optimizer, but not all motherboards allow it
@@AncientGameplays ah okay, thank you 🫡
wounder 5800x3d undervolted vs 7500f overclocked.
who wins =
5800x3d is equal or faster. Watch the videos I made before
@@AncientGameplays I did but forget xD
Speaker cones need vaccum cleaner to pull them out 😜
OCD lol
Any advice for a 7950x none 3d ?
Yes, follow these steps and see
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Can I do this on my legion go
if it allows OC
I have a ryzen 5 5600x with 4.85ghz when gaming and while having cynebech r24 it's around 4.8 ghz
That's a very good sample
Can we just do it with the PBO ?
Yes, but not better overall
Make a vídeo ao oc 5800x
watch the pinned comment
ENTER BIOS
PBO ENABLE
END
Pbo is always enabled by default. At least try to know what you're talking about
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Does this work with the 7800x3d as well?
X3D CPUs can't OC per se, at least not in most boards
@@AncientGameplays I have an msi x670e gaming plus, is there a way to make the cpu cooler? It's cooking me alive, sometimes 🤣