Roland TD-17 V-Drum Kit [In-Depth Demo]
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Miles Gibbons goes in-depth with new Roland V-Drums TD-17KVS electronic drum kit at the Roland Inspiration Centre in Toronto. Miles gives a tour of the updated pad set, discusses features of the new module, plays a few of the preset kits, demonstrates the practice functions, shows how to edit and create kits, how to add sound layers, how to import samples, and more!
Don't have 22 minutes to hang with Miles to learn about the TD-17? Check out the quick version here: • Roland TD-17 V-Drum Ki...
00:00 - Playing Preset Kit #1: Acoustic All Wood
01:01 - TD-17KVS Pad Set Tour
01:53 - New Module Features
02:50 - TD-17 Module Tour
04:07 - Playing Preset Kit #1: Acoustic All Wood
04:53 - Playing Preset Kit #3: Compact Jazz Combo
05:24 - Playing Preset Kit #10: Unplugged +Percussion
06:00 - Playing Preset Kit #49: Deep Groove +Percussion
06:25 - Editing and Creating Kits
09:49 - Importing User Samples
11:47 - Playing Custom User Sample Kit (w/ Loop)
12:26 - Playing Custom Kit #55 (Preset Kit #1 w/ Multi-FX)
12:41 - Layering Sounds
14:59 - Playing Custom Kit #54 (Preset Kit #1 w/ Layers)
15:46 - Metronome
16:52 - Rhythm Coach: Time Check
18:16 - Rhythm Coach: Quiet Count
18:43 - Rhythm Coach: Warm Up
19:28 - Playalong Songs and Recording
21:07 - Playing Along to Music
TD-17 Module: www.long-mcquade.com/106433
TD-17 KLS: www.long-mcquade.com/104932
TD-17 KVS: www.long-mcquade.com/114806
TD-17 KVXS: www.long-mcquade.com/114809
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Just purchased a set 3 days ago. At 57 years old, it a bucket list thing...learn to play drums. Always wanted to play drums, but always got the answer NO from parents or wife... now the ex. So now it's ME time. Can't wait to get started. Thanks for the great review.
Good for you Nathan, enjoy it!
Miles! That was a grade A+ demo! Watching you play is always such a joy! See you at the next show man!
12:25 THIS BEAT LEGIT TOUCHED MY HEART
Maaan, I so agree with you! I was watching along with great interest and then this came, and I made my mind up that this set is the sh*t. Credit to the drummer Miles too of course ;)
@@stivkapten5371 Are yo saying this set is bad? This is the one i am looking to buy and i kinda like the beat!
@@PEP. I'm saying that I was also looking into buying an electronic drumkit, and this demo made me make up my mind :) When the resources are available, I'll buy this one. I think this TD-17KV is good enough to not go for the the TD-17KVX.
00:00 - Playing Preset Kit #1: Acoustic All Wood
01:01 - TD-17KVS Pad Set Tour
01:53 - New Module Features
02:50 - TD-17 Module Tour
04:07 - Playing Preset Kit #1: Acoustic All Wood
04:53 - Playing Preset Kit #3: Compact Jazz Combo
05:24 - Playing Preset Kit #10: Unplugged +Percussion
06:00 - Playing Preset Kit #49: Deep Groove +Percussion
06:25 - Editing and Creating Kits
09:49 - Importing User Samples
11:47 - Playing Custom User Sample Kit (w/ Loop)
12:26 - Playing Custom Kit #55 (Preset Kit #1 w/ Multi-FX)
12:41 - Layering Sounds
14:59 - Playing Custom Kit #54 (Preset Kit #1 w/ Layers)
15:46 - Metronome
16:52 - Rhythm Coach: Time Check
18:16 - Rhythm Coach: Quiet Count
18:43 - Rhythm Coach: Warm Up
19:28 - Playalong Songs and Recording
21:07 - Playing Along to Music
Can you tune the cymbals on the TD17 like you can on the TD25? Thanks!
Yes you can!
Thanks a lot! :)
I’ve had the td17 kvx for 5weeks now..and I absolutely love this kit...started playing accoustic drums in 1979..and I still have my pearl set with Zildjian cymbals.they are nice and clean setting in their road cases...this Roland td17 kvx is very sturdy and very impressive...🥁🥁👍🙏✌️
Col Bastard yes
Best review!!! Great job explaining all the features.
Thanks for this video! Just ordered this kit, arriving in 2 days, and this really let me know what to expect (and got me even more excited).
Awesome Justin! We hope you really enjoy it!
how are you finding the kit? im thinking of getting one
Thank you for the informative introduction. i learned a lot on how to get the max out of my TD 17 Module.
Tyvm... I have the kit & beginning a New Drummer this has cleared up so Much for me... I Can't Say "THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH".... 🤘🥁💜🌹
Forget about the TD - 17 for a minute, I want to start playing the drums more like Miles does! Damn he’s good.
This is a video textbook on the module; fantastic! I like the way it's segmented for each topic. I would request a follow-up on how to tune and manipulate the module for different types, sounds and brands of cymbals, please, such as a Zildjian dark as opposed to an A. Thank you!
Thank you!!! Finally a video that explains this kit module!!!! I just bought this and have hardly played it yet. I also have my acoustic drums as well. Thanks so much!
You're very welcome Kari!
I think I'm really going to go for this kit. I've already got a vh-11 hihat with a stand so the pedal and the cy-5 will become extras for me. The sounds are best I've heard on a kit in that price range. It's a win
Great video, very impressed nicely explained sounds like a fabulous drum kit!
BEST DEMO EVER!!!! Thank you 😊
Great drummer- love your style
Rock on!
I love your distortion effect. Btw I ordered my TD 17 today- can’t wait!!!!
Great demo !
Thank you !
Great playing, Miles! I never thought of positioning the kick pad where Miles has it positioning for a more natural feel for some players (wider stance).
Just the intro had me hooked haha.. The sound quality
Sehr gut erklärt. Bis jetzt der beste. Good job Dude.
I'm convinced.
Thanks Miles, great job!
Thanks!
very cool set, good drummer too
Great demo; great groove; really solid bass drum :-)
Great video !!
This was really well executed
Thanks a lot!
This will be my first drum set of any kind and I’m excited to learn new instrument. I come from guitars, uke, keys background.
It’ll definitely be a while before I mess around with adjusting sounds. Think I’ll stick with preselects and try to learn basics for a good bit.
Seem kinda complicated.
It might seem complicated once you get into the more advanced features of this module, but we assure you that it doesn't have to be! You could just sit down at the kit, choose patch #1 and never move it from there and enjoy playing on this kit. The good thing is that this kit can grow with you as you learn more. For the first little while if it seems complicated, you can just play the preset kits which are easily accessible with the big knob and you wouldn't have to dive into menus or any other settings. But as you progress in your drumming skills, you'll also develop a taste for what sounds good to you and you'll also become more familiar with the module. So as you learn more, you'll probably be more particular about the sounds and settings of the kit. At which point, this video will still be here for your reference, so please come back if you want to learn more about the more advanced, "complicated" settings!
Long & McQuade Musical Instruments thanks much.
how you getting on
Well explained
Got the TD 17-KX. First electronic kit... amazing for its price
KVX? KV? KL? Which one is that?
@@PEP. The KVX. One year later: I confirm, Without a doubt one of the best value out there. I love that kit
-JuL- im saving up for it and that’s great to know!
@@PEP. I went through that too. It is worth the pain. You'll get there ;)
@@Chachekon I got myself the TD17KVX and can vouch for how amazing it is.
Thanks for your answer about my electric drum kit on Wii drama
I’ve had this kit for several years and hands down, this is the most in-depth and comprehensive overview I’ve found on UA-cam.
I’m a keyboardist who bought this kit primarily for recording, and I wanted to know how to adjust the stereo pan of both the toms and cymbals. After watching several other videos to find the answer (unsuccessfully), you hit on @7:40.
Another question I have is how to eliminate a weird leakage or false triggering of one of the toms coming out of the two right ride cymbals every time I inadvertently hit the bell/wingnut tip? I tried disconnecting the sounding tom but you still hear it.
If I could offer one gripe, it would be that you should’ve had a straight-on closeup view of the interface/panel rather than an angled set-back one.
Good job!
Thanks very much for the feedback! In response to your gripe, we actually did have a straight-on view of the module (3:10) but the clarity of the footage was less than desirable, so in editing we thought that the buttons, screen and menu options were more legible in the isometric angle. This video is also going on 5 years old, and our camera quality/production value has increased since then.
Crosstalk can be a natural occurrence with electronic drums. For example, if you hit one of the tom pads and it triggers the sound from a cymbal pad that's mounted nearby, the vibration from hitting the tom pad may travel through the rack/stand and trigger the cymbal pad. This is referred to as "Crosstalk." In the TD-17, there is a feature called "X-Talk Cancel" (Crosstalk Cancel) that can help prevent Crosstalk from occurring. When adjusting X-Talk Cancel, you increase the value for the pad that's being triggered by another.
Here's how to access and adjust the X-Talk Cancel parameter in the TD-17.
1) Press the SETUP button.
2) Press the cursor down button to highlight "Pad Settings," and then press the function 3 [F3] button (ENTER).
3) Press [F3] again (ADVNCD).
4) Cursor down to select "Xtalk Cancel."
5) Hit the pad that is being triggered by another. For example, if you hit the tom pad, and the cymbal pad is triggered, hit the cymbal pad to select it.
6) Turn the main dial to increase the value (0-80) as necessary until the crosstalk subsides.
7) Press the DRUM KIT button when you're finished. The new setting is saved automatically.
If this doesn't help, we'd recommend factory resetting the module.
Great video tutorial thanks! One issue Im having is that the drum volume is distorted when recorded with a song. Could you please advise? Thanks for your help.
Great video. Thank you for showing the sounds layering. Very nice addon. Can you assign different sound to the rim of pads?
This is now my top choice to buy after the Alesis Strike Kit pro because it's cheaper and most likely lasts longer & especially because it too allows the sound importing which was the reason why I waited so long and wanted to get the Alesis kit but that had enough issues even though the sounds are amazing and it looks awesome (a con for this Roland one).
I was wondering what is the max sounds you can import (max per file and total either in MB or length)?
Yes! You can apply different sounds to the head and rim; you can also layer a third sound on the head and fourth on the rim, so you can trigger up to four sounds from one dual zone pad.
Imported WAV files can be up to 295 seconds (mono)\148 seconds (stereo).
Awesome! Exact reply I was hoping for. Thank you so much!
the long gestures before he starts talking is sending me XD
Great playing Miles. After a lot of research and model comparison within an intermediate budget i sourced a used td15. A main feature within that budget was that the td15 had separate earpiece and monitor option - ready to gig. Does the td17 have this feature?
Hi Mark (thank you!)... This kit is gig ready. You can patch your TD-17 into front of house through the stereo master outputs, or just the left for a mono feed. You can plug a set of headphones or in-ears directly in to the headphone output of the module - if you wanted, you could also use the headphone output to send audio to a personal mixer or powered monitor (you might need to use an adaptor or Y-cable, depending on what kind of input the mixer\monitor has). Level control of the individual pads is instantly accessible with a dedicated button on the module, so building a good mix of the kit will be quick and easy. Does this help?
Thanks Miles. I don't always use a personal mixer and often rely on the module for the split - house and earpiece. Can i set the output/volume levels separately on the td 17 for the house/PA and the earpiece?
Unfortunately, no. There is only one volume knob that affects both outputs.
Oooof. 12:25
Sounds chunky 🥴
🔥🔥🔥
One of our favourite parts too!
I love my Roland , I didn’t know I could choke the cymbals though I’m going to try that out
Congratulations,
Is it possible to play the td17kv with the brushes?
Or is there a sound already programmed in the control unit that allows you to get the sound of the brushes playing with the sticks?
Thank you
It's possible to play the kit with brushes (we recommend nylon brushes only) but it would have no affect on the sound, except maybe a bit quieter. There is no brushes patch built in.
Great video, thanks, you sold me. But I bought it on eBay and got some accessories thrown in for free.
Definitely picking up the module and snare. But sadly, just like the TD25 module, there is no dedicated headphone volume knob.
i feel ya
www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-Extension-Control-Switch/dp/B004GIFBM4
but there is volume control right on the module system
Does the TD 17 have the option to choose the depth of the snare, for example 14x5.5, 14x6.5?
Quick question: When will the TD-17 line of drum-kits be available for purchase at L&M? The website doesn't appear to have any information just yet. Thanks! Cheers!
All three versions of the TD-17 are now available for order on our website!
TD-17 K-LS: www.long-mcquade.com/104932
TD-17 KVS: www.long-mcquade.com/105055
TD-17 KVXS: www.long-mcquade.com/105052
The TD-17 K-LS is in-stock and available for purchase now in stores, but the other two models we're still waiting for our initial order to arrive from Roland. They're available for order on our website and in-store.
Thank you. I appreciate the response. I either missed them on the site or I was a little early.
You were a little early - we just finished adding them to our website about half an hour after you posted your first comment. But you're welcome!
so wait. When you import a sample you are importing a single .wav file and then the module just plays that sample at different volume levels to give the impression of dynamic range? That must be why I haven't found it to be all that impressive.
Just got my td17,can you give idea on how to tune your td-17?its sounds amazing!just need help on tunning my edrums.dont have any idea how tune the snare,the 3 toms,whats the rigth EQ settings on each pad?plsssssss???thank you!
Except for the kit where Miles imported his own samples, he is playing the default preset kits with no adjustments to the tuning or EQ.
There’s no right way, it’s all about taste... the preloaded kits are all designed to be readily playable as is, but you can of course alter them to your liking. Copy a a kit you like to a few of the User Kit patches, and tune/EQ/etc them differently... this will help you establish what kind of adjustments you like.
First time I've seen the kick tower placed to the side of the rack versus product pics/other videos having it in center between the two narrow bars.
Personal preference or Roland recommendation to place kick on the side? 🤔
Great catch! It's personal preference. In the middle between the two bars is more aesthetically pleasing for their promotional product photos and whatnot, but offset is really much better ergonomically.
@@longandmcquade Great, thanks for the reply. I recall a UA-cam review of this kit, guy was saying you couldn't get a bigger kick pad because of the small space between this rack.
So, it looks like that doesn't really matter. 👍
@@zvoidx Doesn't matter one bit, as long as you're comfortable with the offset kick. But you should be, because when you sit down on a stool with your feet on the floor and no drum kit in front of you, take a look down at your feet and you'll notice that when you're looking straight ahead, your feet angle outwards. For maximum comfort and ergonomics while playing, you should position the parts of the kit where your body naturally goes, instead of adjusting your body to where the parts of the kit are. So if you sat on the stool, facing forward, feet on the floor, and placed the hi-hat pedal and the kick pedal under where your feet naturally land, your kick pedal and of course the pad too would be offset to the right just like Miles has here. And when doing so, you can use a larger kick pad like a KD-120 should you want to upgrade down the road.
Will you explain how to change the tempo for the metronome? Do you just use the trackwheel?
Yes. You can adjust the tempo by either using the knob while in the Click screen, or pressing the Fast or Slow buttons.
is it possible to connect a bluetooth headphone to play with it at the same time i connect a smart phone via bluetooth to play a song ?
corenight1 yes i do it everyday, you can even adjust levels to make the drums or music louder separately.. Badass drum set
Hi! Great review! I would like to ask you something that happens to me and I do not see anybody speaking about it. I have the TD17 module on a VAD 306. When I import my own sounds, for example a ride cymbal, if I hit it twice then the second hit mutes the first, creating a really weird and unnatural sensation. Typical situation when hitting the ride alternating one hard and one soft hit in a groove. The soft hit does not overlap and mix with the first, but it kind of replaces it creating a drastic decay between the hard it and the soft one.
I hope my explanation was clear enough so that you could give me an opinion of how to solve this. I was able to improve the performance by crating another sublayer but it’s not ideal.
Obviously, this behavior does not occur with the preset the TD17 comes with.
Thank you!
Imported samples are designated as “Mono” samples by default. Press the [USER SAMPLE] button, and then enter the “Play Type” menu. Change your sample to the “Oneshot Poly.” Additional strokes will now overlap, and no longer cancel out previous strokes.
Need help!!! when hit assign - hit rim - set sound I want- then go back to kit - the head and the rim have the sound I assigned, not jus the rim. What am I doing wrong?????
Is this drum kit still worth buying on 2021? Or should I wait for a new update from Roland?
In 2021 i would buy a atv kit, it is so much better!!
Got the same model but can’t get my hi hats synced with the open/closed to make that lovely sound
Make sure the HH cable is plugged into the hi-hat cymbal pad, and the HH CTRL cable is plugged into the hi-hat foot pedal. It's pretty common to get those switched around. If everything is plugged in properly, our next recommendation would be to perform a factory reset on the module.
Is it possible to have only the Metronome in my ears? And the drum sound out through speakers?
Unfortunately not. Metronome or audio routing is a feature of their higher-end modules only.
The TD-17KVXS is $2199. More realistic hi hat setup! Awesome set. Worth every dollar!.. I own it. Tighten up the heads as they are to loose from factory, or risk damaging triggers.
I don't like the amps from roland. No power.
I use a workingmans 12" bass amp and some alesis monitor speakers hooked up to the external output. Just cooks with a full range of sound.
Louder than my acoustic Mapex set.
sh m I just bought one new for 1600 @zzzounds.
Can you do cross stick on the snare?
Are you outside of the US? If not, $2199 is too high. The 17-KVX kit goes for $1,599 or less with discounts from some vendors.
@@HadEnough745 Canada it is 2199
something about that snare on the first kit sound as if it had some post production. I heard licks I didn’t see. Or was I mistaken?
If you heard licks you didn't see, that just means Miles' sticks are faster than the naked eye! ;) You can check out the "unedited version" (ie no camera switching) of the intro performance on our Instagram. instagram.com/p/BikMx2Jg8eb/
Ok, I was mistaken :)
Thanks for the reply
any settings there
This is actually my favorite Rolamd module to date. Great features for the price and most reasonably priced set and module from Roland. Sounds IMO are still dated.
Can you adjust the tempo on songs?
Thinking of buying this. who has it? and cons?
I have a TD-9KX2 with the VH-11 HH and additional crash and cowbell. I am considering replacing the TD-9 module with the TD-17 module (leaving all current pads). Good idea or not? Thanks
Our opinion is yes. The TD-9KX2 is a few years old, but the pad set it came with is still quite good and comparable to what you'd get on a new kit like the TD-17KVXS. However, the sounds on the TD-9 module are dated. Advancements in modules and built-in sounds in have outpaced the advancements in pad/trigger technology. The TD-9 module is still good, and the other features like playalong songs, recording, coach functions are all there on both modules, but the TD-17 does have more modern and authentic sounds, as well as the ability to layer sounds and import your own sounds.
lol ...
other features like ...percussion sets...are only on the td-9!
hlo my chocks not working in cymbols what to do
Make sure you're gripping the cymbal right at the edge with the thick rubber. If you feel the thinner plastic part underneath the cymbal in your fingertips then you're choking too far up.
I know you can play to songs via bluetooth from your phone, but can you pop a USB flashdrive in the module with songs to play along with?
There is no USB port to accept a USB flashdrive in the TD-17 module, but you can load songs on an SD card and play along to songs from there.
Yep, as mentioned by L&M, the SD card takes over for the thumb drive. SD is much more physically stable, and faster... you can even slow down or speed up the songs on your SD card to maximize your practice.
I am in between the 17 kv and 17 kvx, Is there a difference in sound? & does having a stand alone high hat stand makes a difference? and worth £500 Extra. I would really appreciate an advice
There is no sound difference between the TD-17KV and the TD-17KVX. The only difference is in the pad set - they both use the same TD-17 module. We definitly think that the KVX upgrade is worth the extra cost - not only for the VH-10 hihat, but the extra crash and the upgraded CY-12C and CY-13R cymbal pads. A lot of people who purchase the TD-17KV come back to us a little while after buying it asking about adding cymbals or upgrading the pads, and it's always more cost effective to do it from the get-go than to but the KV and start upgrading/swapping components. Hope this helps!
Does anyone know how to assign a sound from the multi affects to a single drum and not all of them? For example if I want an echo on just a snare the echo sound will go throughout every part of the drum kit?
There is an FX send menu in which you can choose which pads have the FX applied to them, and how much of the effect is applied. You could (for example) have no echo on your cymbals, a little echo on your toms, more on your kick, and tons on your snare.
can you change the sound of the hi hat and layer it etc? just like the snare and toms?
Yes
can we import sounds from the td30 into the td17
Theoretically you can, but the TD-17 already includes sounds from the TD-50, which is the latest-generation flagship model.
Hi could i upgrade my td-1 mkd module whit the td 17 module ?
Yes you certainly could! If you're happy with the TD-1DMK pad set, then this would be a good option.
However, the TD-1DMK kit is $899, and the TD-17 module alone is $849, for a total investment of $1748, and you still would have the smaller CY-5 cymbal pads, 6" mesh tom pads, and the 8" snare pad of the TD-1DMK pad set. The TD-17 KVS comes with the module you want, plus larger CY-8 cymbals, 3x PDX-8 8" tom pads (the same one you use as a snare now), and a 12" PDX-12 snare pad. The TD-17 KVS kit is $1599. You might want to consider trading in the TD-1DMK and trading up to the TD-17 KVS to get the better pad set as well.
Nice kit, does this replace the TD11 ?
I would imagine it does, although the crash and ride cymbals are cheaper models than the ones that came with the TD-11.
MusicMan11, that's not entirely true. The TD-11KS has the same cymbal pads as the TD-17KLS and the TD-17KVS, which are the CY-8 pads. The TD-11KV has the upgraded CY12C and CY13R cymbal pads that you're thinking of, as will the TD-17KVXS. But the TD-17KVXS will have an additional CY-12C that the TD-11KV didn't come with, and will have the VH-10 hihat, whereas both TD-11 models had a CY-5 cymbal pad with the FD-8 hihat foot controller.
The TD-17 will be available in THREE different pad sets in Canada. Starting with the TD-17K-LS, this is the "lite" model that includes a PDX-8 snare pad, PD-8A rubber tom pads, CY-5 hihat and CY-8 crash and ride cymbal pads. The module in the TD-17K-LS will not be Bluetooth capable. The TD-17KVS is the mid-level option, which Miles is playing here. It includes the new PDX-12 snare pad, PDX-8 tom pads, CY-5 hihat and CY-8 crash and ride cymbals. The module in the KVS outfit and above will be Bluetooth capable. Finally there's the TD-17KVXS package, which is the best pre-packaged pad set you can get with the TD-17. It has the PDX-12 snare pad, PDX-8 tom pads, two CY-12C crash cymbal pads, a CY-13R ride cymbal pad, and the VH-10 hihat pad that mounts onto a traditional hihat stand.
That's true. I have the TD-11KV model. I forgot about the other variations.
you guys have NONE in stock in all of Canada, when is delivery expected?
Actually, as of this moment, we have over 180 of the various TD-17 models in stock across Canada. Which configuration are you looking for and where are you located?
All you drummers,where does a newbie learn online that has a good plan?
I got this kit coming for Christmas present and not sure where to start.
Thanks.
Luckily, yours truly who moderates these comments is a drummer! ;)
We'd start with the Melodics software that Miles talks about in another video about the TD-1DMK. ua-cam.com/video/jyAqaZCNRs0/v-deo.html
. It interfaces very well with the TD-17 too, and it's free to start! ua-cam.com/video/5RJj1nF-NUg/v-deo.html.
melodics.com/
Long & McQuade Musical Instruments thanks brother! Appreciate it so much. Funds are limited at present with Christmas and all. Free is a great price 😂
is there somewhere i can get sounds others have made for my kit? im not a musician by any means so a lot of the settings here are just confusing, id like to be able to add new kit/drum sounds, or whole kits, that someone knowledgeable has made. i made 1 kit based off the preset sounds but it doesent sound great. thanks
Hi Kyle, unfortunately there aren't any officially-available add-on packs for the TD-17 module at this point in time. There are free "artist-tuned" kits for the TD-50, but a similar feature is not available for the TD-17. There are third-party options online that you could look into for download at an additional cost.
There are many free and commercial websites where you can download new drum kit sounds and import them into the TD-17 using the User Sample function. The files must be in a Wave file format, 44.1 kHz, and must be 16 or 24 bit. If they are not the right file format, use an audio editor like Audacity (open source) to convert them.
Just Google 'drum samples wav'.
@@longandmcquade what sites?
After 2 years on, can’t say I’m pleased with the durability of this kit…
What has happened to your kit? Generally we've been very happy with the durability of Roland V-Drums and we still have kits in our rental fleet that are 5+ years old that are still in good working order even after the use and abuse of being in and out of rents.
@@longandmcquade
1) Roland will no longer warranty damage they deem due to the cause of a ‘aggressive playing style’.
- my major problem with this is that this isn’t disclaimed prior to getting the kit. No where, in any of the UA-cam reviews etc do they say that metal/hard rock playing style will wear and tear the kit quickly.
So my first issue was with my snare drum. The rubber lip for rim shots started to bulge and protrude out in a very small, specific area. I sent it in for repair august of last year. Roland notified your store in Nanaimo that they would not fix this if it happened again, deeming it due to heavy playing style, and basically said other potential warranties issues would come under this scrutiny. And on a side note, 3 weeks after
I took the snare in to send off for repair, and before Roland got back to you guys deeming my damage due to ‘playing style’, I received an email from you guys saying my warranty was up in a month and That I could renew for $75 for the year, which at that point in time I thought this makes sense considering I’ve just used it.
Anyways, December comes and still no snare. I don’t blame you guys for this, it’s Roland taking their sweet ass time saying they can’t get parts for literally a piece of rubber.
One of your guys at Nanaimo ends up just giving me a new snare, partially because they still didn’t know when it would be ready and we were closing in on half a year, and also because I purchased a new warranty before finding out that any warranty work I wanted done in the future may not be covered again, because of my ‘playing style’.
I’ve been playing the drums since I was 10, I’m 37 now…
I by no means beat the hell out of my kit, but yes… I do play aggressively.
Had I known or heard or read Anywhere that this drum kit does not suite all styles of play, even though there are ‘metal’ presets in the kit selector (oh the irony), I wouldn’t have purchased the kit.
Now I have my cy-5 rubber is coming away from the adhesive and is muting my open hi hats randomly, and the kick drum sensitivity is fading because the pad is so heavily sunken in.
Meh.
@@ClihtYeastwood Sorry to read about all this happening to you. This is exactly why we offer our Performance Warranty, which is handled through us, not with the manufacturer. Although, we do send out products to repair by the manufacturer if it falls within their warranty. But our Performance Warranty extends the manufacturer's warranty beyond the time limit they have offered and also covers you under a wider set of circumstances. So we're glad to hear that a staff member at our Nanaimo store gave you a new snare pad - that's exactly how our Performance Warranty policy should work, should the manufacturer not come through for you. We understand that it is a hassle and ideally your kit wouldn't experience this wear and tear under "normal playing conditions" (or any playing conditions, really!) but we hope you take advantage of the Performance Warranty and return to the store with your degrading CY-5 and KD-10 kick pad.
Thanks for sharing your experience with your kit and it might influence other readers in their buying decisions, but also thanks for sharing your experience with our customer service and warranty program because we believe these are advantages we're able to offer over our competitors or online stores.
@@longandmcquade ok, we’ll I wasn’t even explained the performance warranty this way, but perhaps I should’ve read deeper. I will confirm with Nanaimo that they will continue to warranty these pieces, regardless of what Roland says, as I still have a month left on there warranty.
Thank you.
What parts failed? The mesh heads or the cymbols, or both?
Is the snare and Tom's dual zones? Can we assign two different sounds to head and rim?
Yes, the PDX-12 and PDX-8 pads are all dual-zone. You can assign different sounds to each zone.
@@longandmcquade thank you
Can this link up to superior drummer 3 in logic to use that library of sounds?
Yes!
So just to clarify. Can I play music from my phone on Bluetooth too the drum then listen to both the drum and the music through headphones plugged into the drum?
Yes.
@@howtoduit noice!
from where I can download and add drum samples and sounds? there is nothing online
Drum-tec
I found the module volume of my TD-17KV too low for my AKG headphones. Even at full blast it is not enough.
I still hear the noise from the rubber cymbals louder than the triggered sound.
@shady xyz Thanks for your answer. I did it and it's much better now.
Anyway, Roland could spare us from all this trouble by just increasing the output power on the module.
Best regards.
@shady xyz Hi there ! After I had the patience to increase the kit volumes from all the preset that I like to +6Db, I found another simple solution by sending the master output signal to my Fender Frontman 15-R guitar amplifier and hearing it from its headphones output, which disables the amp loudspeaker sound. Now I can have a huge volume in my ears even with the TD module volume at 50%. Thanks again for your advices !
@shady xyz Let me ask you another thing, please:
I play on the second floor but my wife told me that the bass drum was making a disturbing noise, even with the sound just on the headphones. At first I thought she was being bitchy but I asked her to come upstairs, lock the door and kick it hard, so I could evaluate the noise downstairs. To my surprise, there was a very perceptible low frequency sound coming from the ceiling, just as if someone was hammering a nail up there.
I know that Roland sells a "noise eater" small platform for an absurd 150 euros so I made one myself with 1/2" rubber mat and put it under the kick pedal and kick pad, which has reduced the noise a bit, but not completely.
Have you had the same problem ? If so, how did you solve it ?
Best regards.
I have the td17. I want to ask if there is China sound and splash on td17. And if so how can I find these sounds?
Press [ASSIGN] and then strike the pad you want to assign a splash or china too. Use the cursor to select the Instrument Group (ie KICK, SNARE etc) and use the dial to scroll to SPLASH\CHINA. Cursor down to the Instrument Name\Number, and you can scroll through the available splashes and chinas. There are some nice splash and china sounds - you can also use [TUNING] and [MUFFLING] to customize the stock sounds.
Is it possible to have a second crash cymbal on this version of the TD17?
Yes it is. There are two additional inputs on the back for CRASH2 and AUX. Buy a CY-8 cymbal pad, an extra boom arm to mount it and an extra TRS cable to plug it into the CRASH2 input, and all kits will automatically have an additional second crash sound assigned to the new pad.
Long & McQuade Musical Instruments ok thanks
Is it possible to run the main mix into my headphones?
Unless we're misunderstanding, the main mix is sent to the headphones by default.
I might sell my atv ad5 module and get this module
How big are the rack toms? And is the snare too close to the hi hat?
The toms are PDX-8 pads, which are 8" pads. The snare doesn't look too close to the hihat to us, but Miles set up his kit in this video so that it's comfortable for him. You can move the hihat further away if that's what you'd prefer!
What are the best active monitors for Roland kvx?
Try the Roland PM-100: www.long-mcquade.com/102019
Quick question. I am purchasing a 17 from your Richmond BC store. I have a set of Yu Kanto speakers that can be plugged in with RCA or bluetooth. Will the kit work if I bluetooth it to the speakers vs connecting it hardwired?
Bluetooth usually introduces latency. It'd technically work but it'd probably be a pretty frustrating playing experience if everything you heard had a delay. We'd recommend going wired.
@@longandmcquade kinda figured thx 4 quick response. Another question what folder on the SD card one loads play along mp3s in?
@@bobvanster No folder, put the files in the root level of the SD card.
@@longandmcquade In other words on the card directly thx.
Great kit but two things are a little annoying. 1) The headphone jack on TOP. Previous modules like the TD-9 had it on the bottom left which makes all of the sense in the world. 2) The screen is very small. It could've been a little bigger for so it's easier to manage from a distance. Otherwise, you have to lean in and kill your back while making changes. Most drummers will make changes while sitting on a throne which is FAR AWAY from the tiny screen. Doing a demo with the camera focused right in on the screen is totally different than a drummer sitting up on a stool & making changes.
Had Enough ridiculously small Panel
I have this drum set along with the PM-200 speaker. It sounds great thru headphones but thru the speaker, it sounds very fake/artificial…nothing like the way it sounds in this video. Any advice? I’m novice when it comes to electronic drum sets.
The audio in this video was recorded direct from the module into the camera, so you're hearing the actual sound produced by the TD-17 module, eliminating any outside factors. Similar to how it sounds in your headphones. It eliminates outside factors such as room acoustics and pad noise, and also represents a true stereo field, so it sounds more authentic in headphones.
Once you play with an amplifier, you introduce outside factors such as how that amp/speaker interacts with room acoustics, you hear your acoustic pad impact noise mixed with the electronic drum sounds, and the sound is coming from a single source (probably on the ground) which does not give you a nice wide stereo image with individual instruments panned based on their physical location set up on the kit.
Hearing the pad noise and hearing the drums coming from a mono speaker on the ground really reduces the "illusion" that you're playing acoustic drums and makes it sound "fake" as you put it.
What's the model of the Roland drum monitor?
That's the Roland PM-200: www.long-mcquade.com/102019. If you don't need that much power, there's also the PM-100:
How do i turn on rim shots?
Really quick terminology correction: A rimshot is when the stick comes into contact with the head and the rim at the exact same time, making a loud cracking sound. This is on by default, if you hit the mesh head and rim at the same time. A cross stick is the softer clicking sound by laying the stick across the drum and playing just the rim. If it's the cross stick feature that you're looking for, check out 6:20 and you can see in the lower left of the screen is the X-Stick label. The leftmost button under the screen when you're on the Kit screen will turn on and off the cross stick sound.
@@longandmcquade can you please demonstrate the cross stick on the TD-17?
@now what cheers
@@longandmcquade cheers
@@longandmcquade mine doesn't seem to be working. Is it because I have td-17 kl and not a higher variant because if the smaller snare on my kit? Sorry for being dumb I 12 years of, here 7 on guitar and a geek on guitar equipment but new to drums
Where do you find samples to put onto your own kit? Just download online?
Miles Koester I use all kinds of different samples... sometimes I record and create my own sounds, sometimes I download things from the internet, sometimes I just use samples from the collection that came with my DAW. I’ve literally recorded owls in the forest with my phone and sampled that. Any WAV file will work!
Miles Gibbons what are you calling DAW? Excuse the ignorance, been playing accoustic sets for 10 plus years but am considering the TD17 for practice, it would be my first electric set
Miles Koester a DAW is a “digital audio workstation.” These are computer programs that you can use to record or edit audio, sequence MIDI, program electronic instruments etc. Protools, Ableton, Logic, Cakewalk are all popular DAWS. They often come preloaded with a bunch of samples you can use in your music.
Miles Gibbons Miles, please mention Reaper when going through your DAW list. It’s the most affordable and best value DAW in many people’s opinion.
And for sure, EASY to get started with!
Thanks.
Hey Jim, didn't intend any slight towards Reaper (or any other DAW - there are many others I didn't mention!)... just listing a few obvious examples.
Does that drum set have dual zone pads
Yes it does!
Is it possible to add a cymbal to this kit?
Yes, you can add another crash cymbal. Or just get the KVXS which comes with the better cymbal pads, the extra crash cymbal and the VH-10 hihat upgrade.
my snare drum is falling down and it’s very loose idk what happened
Make sure all the wingnuts on the clamps and mounting arm for the snare pad are tightened. Don't overtighten because it could strip, but find out which direction the snare pad is falling and tighten the corresponding wingnut with your fingers or screws with your drum key.
I have the money for kvx. I am a beginner. Which of the two versions do I recommend for kv or kvx? .
I have the kv and its awesome.. I did add a used Roland ride cymbal.. The main difference is the snare.. The kvx has a real snare stand.. Im fine with my kv and can always add a real snare someday but it sounds greAt as is.. You can not go wrong with either set..
@@daveyboy8907 Which active monitor matches the kv and produces the best sound in both treble and k bass sound?
We always recommend getting the best base configuration that you can afford at the time, because it's always cheaper to get the upgraded/expanded pad set initially than to upgrade or swap out components over time. If you can afford the KVX now and prefer the better cymbal pads and extra cymbal on that configuration, that's the route we'd suggest going. Daveyboy is incorrect above - the KV and KVX have the exact same PDX-12 snare pad, and both are mounted on the rack. The biggest difference is the upgrade from the CY-5 hi-hat cymbal pad and the FD-9 hi-hat controller pedal on the KV, to the VH-10 hi-hat on the KVX which requires a real hi-hat stand. Plus, the 2 CY-8's on the KV are upgraded to 3 CY-12/13 cymbal pads on the KVX.
Can i play double bass in this kit??
Absolutely!
Does this sound module support VH11???
Yes it does. In fact, the TD-17KVXS version of this kit comes with the VH-11.
Roland TD17KVX is not imported in India by Roland. So I am going for TD17 KVL so was confirming whether it supports VH11. Thank You much for your reply appreciate it
This might be a silly question but,How much will this kit go for?
It's $1,599.
WOW! that's quite expensive,how do people afford these drums?
Starts at 1200, goes to 1600. Right between the TD11KV and the TD25K
We have 3 different configurations. The TD-17KLS is $1299. The TD-17KVS (which Miles is playing here) is $1599. The TD-17KVXS is $2199. If you want to learn more about the different configurations, visit these links:
TD-17 K-LS: www.long-mcquade.com/104932
TD-17 KVS: www.long-mcquade.com/105055
TD-17 KVXS: www.long-mcquade.com/105052
Thank you.
Can someone give me prices...How much...Together...and separate...Just the TD 17 and just the kit and how much Together...?!? Thanks...!!!
The "kit" (ie pad set) is not available separately. The TD-17 module itself is priced at $949.99CAD currently, and the TD-17K-LS is priced at $1399.99CAD. So the K-LS pad set adds $450 to the price, but it's not as if you could purchase the whole pad set and stands for that amount. You will always save money buying whole kits/configurations together.
Hope this helps!
Would you take this kit on tour?
Absolutely! Lightest and most compact kit you can take on the road and super easy for the FOH.
@@longandmcquade Thanks so much for your response. I'm about go on a US tour and I have to get an electric kit. I'm really nervous about it and overwhelmed with all the choices. I've been looking at the TD-17 KV. Which kit is this demo on?
@@warrenh This demo is on the TD-17KVS. (The KVS in Canada and the KV in the US are the same kit).
Is this unit play midi files?
You CAN send MIDI to it via USB, if that helps!
This my dream vdrums. But I dont have enough money to buy this one..😑
Same bro😢
Does this have a USB port??
Yes, on the side.
What are the midi notes for the Roland TD-17 electric drum set on rock band
0:00 thought he was gonna play something else there 😂
Which one? Fool in the Rain or Rosanna?
🤣
@@longandmcquade He probably meant the PH intro.