Great video that more or less matches my experience with the UK job market. Really agree that there's always going to be a lot of variability in the job market, particularly as you go from midlevel-senior. I'm on £45000 as a "midlevel" full-stack C#+React developer - not the best salary in the world but does allow occasional abroad working and a good work life balance working in a small friendly team. Like you I self-taught myself about 30 (4-5 years ago); one of the blunders I made was probably not specialising in what I wanted to do off the bat and moving about a lot between industries. I think if I stuck with React or C# for 1/2 companies I'd be in a better position. Great video again!
45k for a mid level is fairly decent. You may have been better of just sticking with one thing from the start but then again it’s good to try your hand at different languages to learn what you like. Salaries are definitely higher in finance / gambling industries but you do have to sell you soul. Thanks for watching and best wishes 🙏
jarring to see this as I was working in a non faang company as a new grad with 180k annual income, and the interview process was frankly very easy. unfortunately I didn't crack the harder interviews like HRT which could tripple the salary
I feel like I missed the boat big time with the tech industry. i'm trying to change career/upskill but like you say, I don't see any avenue into this job as an entry level/junior role. I wanted to specialize in Data engineering because I figured web dev/pure software engineering is over saturated, but even with that I'm not seeing many junior roles
It's hard if you look at specific role. You have to know or learning anything that's required to accomplish the requirements. I'm a software engineer, i still need to learn data, web, cloud, containers,. Different companies use different programming languages. I got a job and i don't any python. I just have to learn it. Getting the 1st job is hard for everyone
This is pretry accurate IMO. Most job postings ive see online for senior level is around 60k-90k. But then on social medoa I keep hearing junior level can get up to 100k, and if you're not then youre not doing it right.
I doubt anyone is getting 100k as a junior, at least not in the UK. You might get a starting salary of $100k dollars in the us but that only would only be a FAANG type companies
@@pattle theres a few companies hiring grads at ~100k in london, but its rare. im talking palantir, js citadel etc. google and meta are nearly at the 100k mark too
Thanks. Lots of people think even juniors earn £100K. But yours are real numbers. Before IR35 legislations, that money would be possible for majority of SWE but not anymore. Tax, tax, tax...
Great video! Do you think yould you do a video on the self-taught route? i.e. which courses you'd recommend (lots of crappy sites out there and scams) and how to build your portfolio? 😃
im learning python right now at 32 years old im a plasterer by trade but want to get out of construction , it hurts my head on the route i should take . is python a sought after skill , i need some guidance any information is appreciated . like will i have to do an IT help desk job first etc
Yeah python is probably one of the best languages to learn at the moment because of it’s had in machine learning / AI. You shouldn’t need to get a help desk job, just apply for junior engineer positions. Hope that helps
@@pattle ok and what would you assume a junior role could make me a year?? im going to have to take a big hit as i earn around 40/50 on a good year atm but im suffering with injuries which is why i need to get out of construction
@@___m16 You're going to be starting on about £30-£35k in London if you're lucky these days. Find a language which you enjoy and can put a lot of hours in on weeknights/weekends and try and come up with an idea to code around. Tech isnt what it used to be at all, good luck
The big question, do you find the job or does the job find you? aka recruiters vs job sites? I took at job as a tester who has time to learn code, I do also write programs for the company. 14 months later I "know" C++, C# and QML, but I'm not sure where is the best place to look for jobs. I'm also self taught via work and Udemy courses.
When you're starting your career using a good recruiter can make finding your next job a lot easier. Once you start building your network up often the jobs will find you (from my experience)
@@pattle By the way, I start a job as a Junior on Monday! A good Recruiter is important! I nearly didn't answer the phone call! Edit: 29K pay but I managed to also get a 1K signing bonus.
it is very difficult to live in London with this money for junior roles.
Great video that more or less matches my experience with the UK job market.
Really agree that there's always going to be a lot of variability in the job market, particularly as you go from midlevel-senior.
I'm on £45000 as a "midlevel" full-stack C#+React developer - not the best salary in the world but does allow occasional abroad working and a good work life balance working in a small friendly team.
Like you I self-taught myself about 30 (4-5 years ago); one of the blunders I made was probably not specialising in what I wanted to do off the bat and moving about a lot between industries. I think if I stuck with React or C# for 1/2 companies I'd be in a better position.
Great video again!
45k for a mid level is fairly decent. You may have been better of just sticking with one thing from the start but then again it’s good to try your hand at different languages to learn what you like.
Salaries are definitely higher in finance / gambling industries but you do have to sell you soul.
Thanks for watching and best wishes 🙏
Hey how did you got your first job in uk.I have experience in India ,but not getting any calls, I am on dependent visa
Enjoyed the transparency! As a data scientist in London I can say it's quite similar advice! Salary depends mostly on industry
🥇Thank you for sharing your insights, Chris.
Honest and realistic figures 👍🏻 thank you
As a graduate developer with 0 years experience, I got 2 offers, both outside of London. One for 30k and the other was 35k
Any part time jobs or impressive projects?
@@yahyamohamed5625no work experience but I had a few impressive projects
Great video mate, what you said matches well to what I've seen in the current market.
Appreciating , dude ❤
jarring to see this as I was working in a non faang company as a new grad with 180k annual income, and the interview process was frankly very easy. unfortunately I didn't crack the harder interviews like HRT which could tripple the salary
interview consists a couple rounds of leetcode easy-medium questions, and a round of behavior + talk about a project from school
180k GBP?
@@pattle USD
@@zuowang5185 That's good. I think US companies tend to pay about 1.5 - 2x UK salaries
@@zuowang5185 what company
I feel like I missed the boat big time with the tech industry. i'm trying to change career/upskill but like you say, I don't see any avenue into this job as an entry level/junior role. I wanted to specialize in Data engineering because I figured web dev/pure software engineering is over saturated, but even with that I'm not seeing many junior roles
It’s not late
look into apprentice roles
It's hard if you look at specific role. You have to know or learning anything that's required to accomplish the requirements. I'm a software engineer, i still need to learn data, web, cloud, containers,. Different companies use different programming languages. I got a job and i don't any python. I just have to learn it. Getting the 1st job is hard for everyone
Principal usually has more scope than a single team
Its crazy you guys pay just as much as we do for college but make 1/2 as much starting.
This is pretry accurate IMO. Most job postings ive see online for senior level is around 60k-90k.
But then on social medoa I keep hearing junior level can get up to 100k, and if you're not then youre not doing it right.
I doubt anyone is getting 100k as a junior, at least not in the UK. You might get a starting salary of $100k dollars in the us but that only would only be a FAANG type companies
@@pattle theres a few companies hiring grads at ~100k in london, but its rare.
im talking palantir, js citadel etc.
google and meta are nearly at the 100k mark too
obviously a large chunk of that is rsu as well
Thanks. Lots of people think even juniors earn £100K. But yours are real numbers. Before IR35 legislations, that money would be possible for majority of SWE but not anymore. Tax, tax, tax...
I don’t think anyone thinks juniors earn £100k
Not in the UK maybe out in the USA though @@veedjohnson
What about junior software engineers at meta and Google?
Great video! Do you think yould you do a video on the self-taught route? i.e. which courses you'd recommend (lots of crappy sites out there and scams) and how to build your portfolio? 😃
yeah sure. I had that idea already actually. I’ll make it happen
@@pattle brilliant! Looking forward to it!
im learning python right now at 32 years old im a plasterer by trade but want to get out of construction , it hurts my head on the route i should take . is python a sought after skill , i need some guidance any information is appreciated . like will i have to do an IT help desk job first etc
Yeah python is probably one of the best languages to learn at the moment because of it’s had in machine learning / AI. You shouldn’t need to get a help desk job, just apply for junior engineer positions. Hope that helps
@@pattle ok and what would you assume a junior role could make me a year??
im going to have to take a big hit as i earn around 40/50 on a good year atm but im suffering with injuries which is why i need to get out of construction
@@___m16 You're going to be starting on about £30-£35k in London if you're lucky these days.
Find a language which you enjoy and can put a lot of hours in on weeknights/weekends and try and come up with an idea to code around.
Tech isnt what it used to be at all, good luck
@@acidhauss7018 yeah ill pass thats pocket change can earn more cleaning windows thanks for advice
@@acidhauss7018when you say tech isn’t what it used to be, how do you mean? Good way or bad way? Just curious
The big question, do you find the job or does the job find you? aka recruiters vs job sites?
I took at job as a tester who has time to learn code, I do also write programs for the company. 14 months later I "know" C++, C# and QML, but I'm not sure where is the best place to look for jobs. I'm also self taught via work and Udemy courses.
When you're starting your career using a good recruiter can make finding your next job a lot easier. Once you start building your network up often the jobs will find you (from my experience)
@@pattle By the way, I start a job as a Junior on Monday! A good Recruiter is important! I nearly didn't answer the phone call!
Edit: 29K pay but I managed to also get a 1K signing bonus.
@@benlambert8481 Hey how did you got your first job in uk.I have experience in India ,but not getting any calls here, I am on dependent visa
awesome video
Thanks
Hey how to get first job in uk.I have experience in India ,but not getting any calls, I am on dependent visa
What is your tech stack?
@@emekaani8873 sql,pl/sql,power bi
thanks for the info
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How much taxes you pay ?
In the UK it's 20% over £12,500 & then 40% over £50,200 & 45% over £125,100.
My friend you look like: Monaco - what do you want from me 😊
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Bollocks is what you can earn
Lol what?