Lee’s greatest victory of the whole war but to him he did not see it as a win he said right after the battle “At Chancellorsville we gained another victory, our people were wild with delight. I on the contrary, was more depressed than after Fredericksburg; our losses were severe, and again we had gained not an inch of ground, and the enemy could not be pursued.”
this was the worst mistake that could have happened to General Lee. Stonewall being shot by friendly fire. The North got lucky that day. The loss of Jackson by far was the best thing that was in their favor in battle. Lee never got over this great loss of such a leader who Lee could depend on.
General Joe Hooker, on the other hand, had to be told of the loss of Jackson. I would bet when the word got around the camps of the Northern troops, that cheers were heard far.
Full blown out and out racist that he was.... "God ordained the Black Man to be subservient" to people like you... Yeah, a real hero. He'd have blended right in Jan. 6, 2021.....
*I'm related to Gen. Jubal Early, my Grandfather from way back when. You tell this in mixed company, these days and you just might get a dressing down, lol. But, I am **_NOT ASHAMED_** nor will I be made to be!*
Accounts of the time mention wildlife sprinting out of the woods in mass, much to confusion of the Federals. In retrospect, they should have known there was a reason for this and at least posted pickets at the woodline. Imagine being a federal infantryman, around 16:12 in this video, just realizing what's going on with your enemy in formation, armed and charging upon you at less than a stone's throw, while you're all still trying to just grab your (currently empty) rifle. That had to be utterly terrifying
My Great Grandfather was part of that XI Army, led by O.O. Howard that got routed by surprise.. originally the 45th Infantry Volunteers(The German Rifles), he signed a 3 year contract.. fulfilled it & signed then another 3 year contract.. then the war ended.
@@lukewalken1316 man, timely comment. Just got finished having a conversation about a video game coming out based on Fallujah. People are upset about it. Americans should be, in a way, proud of the ACW. One because it ended slavery, and two because keeping the federal government in check is a good thing. It was a tragedy, Ofc, but a better tragedy than allowing a totalitarian state. I want the country I immigrated to back. [I have no doubt the nuance in this comment will be missed by most]
Strange comment? As a former officer and West Point graduate, understanding the bigger picture (which seems to be the point you’re attempting to make, though, I believe misguided), it’s not that Lee had a great victory against an invading army but how he did it, the actual disadvantages the south overcame are much more than modern, incestuous historians would dare admit. Lee’s campaigns have been studied for centuries now, his leadership as well. But it was Lee’s unwavering commitment to Reformed, Biblical Christianity that, to me personally is most fascinating. Jackson much the same. Let us not make the mistake of remembering history as we’ve been taught by Hollywood, or more notable, State run indoctrination camps called public schools. It’s disingenuous at best. Don’t let hatred for ppl we’ve never met, induced by a ruling class that quite literally wants you dead cloud our judgement as we wrestle with contextual biases imbedded since we were children. Most of what we think of as historical fact is … well, a lie. The Springfield rifle, railroads and rivers, manufacturing, name and the Union had it, what most believe to be the Union’s advantage wasn’t even a consideration until much later by Lincoln and that is after he already said “If he could ‘preserve’ [what was, without doing what he did he wouldve]” thus what we see as the moral high ground most always established de-facto wasn’t so clear; for it was Lee who said “if I could end [it] to not fight this war I would.” Paraphrase of course.
Check out AMERICAN Battlefield history trust about Jackson's flanking march and how the flank attacked had some cost to the Confederates on the battlefield
I am sure they were primarily considering the math; 90,000 troops were sent running for their lives with heavy losses by a force of only 45,000. It was the humiliation factor talked about early in the video. Lee was correct in his assessment though in that they gained no ground and themselves took heavy losses, including General Jackson. I think I'd call it a no-win for either side.
One of the most incredible tactical successes in US military history. But since Lee didn't deliver a knock out blow, and Jackson was killed, Lee couldn't bring himself to any joy about this incredible victory. Lee knew he needed to deliver a decisive defeat to the Army of the Potomac to crush Northern morale once and for all so they would give up the fight, but he fell just short of that again. But it was an incredible victory, by any standard.
Will Outlaw maybe they consider it a victory...because it was? The side with less numbers and supplies, defeated better manned and equiped army. It was a very tactical battle that they won. It solidified Lee's ability and his men's ability. It opened the north back up for lee. Loss of men or a specific man makes it bad but doesn't stop it from being considered a victory. If that's the case then Grant shouldn't have anything. Plus lee was critical of a lot his victories and he also praised this battle.
General Lee's idea of how to win the war against the Union was very different from a lot of people's in the army at that point. He would have seen the big picture and been more able to realize the loss of his officers than some. In addition, as part of the strategy of invading the North, Chancellorsville was a tactical victory in that it turned away the opposing armies and allowed him to concentrate his forces for a grand offensive. In theory, if he had not lost Stonewall, Chancellorsville would have been a typical Lee victory. Daring, audacious, and with heavy casualties, but ultimately part of a larger defense project.
@@tobyoneil1969 Amen to that! Lee was a humble man, given to an often times, depressive outlook but the sheer willpower and grit of the South is what we're talking about here. Many do not get it, nor that the War was not fought primarily or just about Slavery. No, under different circumstance, we woulda whooped 'em real good, lol!
Very well done. Well written and narrated.
This is very well done. Sadness on both sides. Thanks for sharing
Lee’s greatest victory of the whole war but to him he did not see it as a win he said right after the battle “At Chancellorsville we gained another victory, our people were wild with delight. I on the contrary, was more depressed than after Fredericksburg; our losses were severe, and again we had gained not an inch of ground, and the enemy could not be pursued.”
Lee said after Jackson was shot. “He has lost his left(arm), but I have lost my right.”
*Brilliant but disparaging quote!*
Man, I knew there was more to this! Thanks, LionHeart.
Thanks!
this was the worst mistake that could have happened to General Lee. Stonewall being shot by friendly fire. The North got lucky that day. The loss of Jackson by far was the best thing that was in their favor in battle. Lee never got over this great loss of such a leader who Lee could depend on.
That's right. Lee's health actually began to fail from that day, perhaps psychosomatic.
Jonathan Begg didn't he get a spring fever?
I'm not sure it was all in his head.
Great video you can't stop watching ACW history shame about GEN STONEWALL JACKSON would like know what if stonewall Jackson was at gettysburg
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Let us cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees
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General Joe Hooker, on the other hand, had to be told of the loss of Jackson. I would bet when the word got around the camps of the Northern troops, that cheers were heard far.
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Stonewall Jackson was my hero.
Full blown out and out racist that he was.... "God ordained the Black Man to be subservient" to people like you... Yeah, a real hero. He'd have blended right in Jan. 6, 2021.....
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I participated in this one.
I'm related to Stonewall Jackson.
*I'm related to Gen. Jubal Early, my Grandfather from way back when. You tell this in mixed company, these days and you just might get a dressing down, lol. But, I am **_NOT ASHAMED_** nor will I be made to be!*
Accounts of the time mention wildlife sprinting out of the woods in mass, much to confusion of the Federals. In retrospect, they should have known there was a reason for this and at least posted pickets at the woodline. Imagine being a federal infantryman, around 16:12 in this video, just realizing what's going on with your enemy in formation, armed and charging upon you at less than a stone's throw, while you're all still trying to just grab your (currently empty) rifle. That had to be utterly terrifying
Stonwall Jackson: "A pious, blue-eyed killer."
My Great Grandfather was part of that XI Army, led by O.O. Howard that got routed by surprise.. originally the 45th Infantry Volunteers(The German Rifles), he signed a 3 year contract.. fulfilled it & signed then another 3 year contract.. then the war ended.
That was the worse unit in the Potomac Army, and Lee knew it. It also had the least soldiers, about 11,500
*Don't quote me on this, but I do believe that my Brother, Lt. Michael Wootten (RIP) was in this? I'd love to know for certain?*
Your maps do not show the movement of the armies. They are hard to interpret.
This was made in the 90s matey. Things like that weren't on people's minds.
In another 10 or 20 years people are gonna think this footage is actually from 1860
Today they probably consider this footage offensive
@@lukewalken1316 man, timely comment. Just got finished having a conversation about a video game coming out based on Fallujah. People are upset about it.
Americans should be, in a way, proud of the ACW. One because it ended slavery, and two because keeping the federal government in check is a good thing. It was a tragedy, Ofc, but a better tragedy than allowing a totalitarian state.
I want the country I immigrated to back.
[I have no doubt the nuance in this comment will be missed by most]
Win a battle, but lose the War. Ooooh!
Strange comment? As a former officer and West Point graduate, understanding the bigger picture (which seems to be the point you’re attempting to make, though, I believe misguided), it’s not that Lee had a great victory against an invading army but how he did it, the actual disadvantages the south overcame are much more than modern, incestuous historians would dare admit. Lee’s campaigns have been studied for centuries now, his leadership as well. But it was Lee’s unwavering commitment to Reformed, Biblical Christianity that, to me personally is most fascinating. Jackson much the same. Let us not make the mistake of remembering history as we’ve been taught by Hollywood, or more notable, State run indoctrination camps called public schools. It’s disingenuous at best. Don’t let hatred for ppl we’ve never met, induced by a ruling class that quite literally wants you dead cloud our judgement as we wrestle with contextual biases imbedded since we were children. Most of what we think of as historical fact is … well, a lie.
The Springfield rifle, railroads and rivers, manufacturing, name and the Union had it, what most believe to be the Union’s advantage wasn’t even a consideration until much later by Lincoln and that is after he already said “If he could ‘preserve’ [what was, without doing what he did he wouldve]” thus what we see as the moral high ground most always established de-facto wasn’t so clear; for it was Lee who said “if I could end [it] to not fight this war I would.” Paraphrase of course.
16:52 Scottish?
Check out AMERICAN Battlefield history trust about Jackson's flanking march and how the flank attacked had some cost to the Confederates on the battlefield
Since Lee did not consider Chancellorsville a victory why do Southerners consider it so? Perhaps they are desperate to celebrate anything.
I am sure they were primarily considering the math; 90,000 troops were sent running for their lives with heavy losses by a force of only 45,000. It was the humiliation factor talked about early in the video. Lee was correct in his assessment though in that they gained no ground and themselves took heavy losses, including General Jackson. I think I'd call it a no-win for either side.
One of the most incredible tactical successes in US military history. But since Lee didn't deliver a knock out blow, and Jackson was killed, Lee couldn't bring himself to any joy about this incredible victory. Lee knew he needed to deliver a decisive defeat to the Army of the Potomac to crush Northern morale once and for all so they would give up the fight, but he fell just short of that again. But it was an incredible victory, by any standard.
Will Outlaw maybe they consider it a victory...because it was?
The side with less numbers and supplies, defeated better manned and equiped army.
It was a very tactical battle that they won. It solidified Lee's ability and his men's ability. It opened the north back up for lee.
Loss of men or a specific man makes it bad but doesn't stop it from being considered a victory. If that's the case then Grant shouldn't have anything.
Plus lee was critical of a lot his victories and he also praised this battle.
General Lee's idea of how to win the war against the Union was very different from a lot of people's in the army at that point. He would have seen the big picture and been more able to realize the loss of his officers than some.
In addition, as part of the strategy of invading the North, Chancellorsville was a tactical victory in that it turned away the opposing armies and allowed him to concentrate his forces for a grand offensive.
In theory, if he had not lost Stonewall, Chancellorsville would have been a typical Lee victory. Daring, audacious, and with heavy casualties, but ultimately part of a larger defense project.
@@tobyoneil1969 Amen to that! Lee was a humble man, given to an often times, depressive outlook but the sheer willpower and grit of the South is what we're talking about here. Many do not get it, nor that the War was not fought primarily or just about Slavery. No, under different circumstance, we woulda whooped 'em real good, lol!
I don’t know anything about this