The reason people say Archie Sonic is OP is because in the Archie comics, Sonic’s speed is literally incalculable. Infinite. You ask how long it would take him to run from one place to another? The answer is “he’s already there.” Also, Chaos Control in Archie comics isn’t just about teleporting or time manipulation. It can straight up do ANYTHING. Including granting wishes and rewriting reality.
@@Flap_jacks69 Or maybe they actually read the comics and know that Archie's feats are way overblown out of the water to be accurate, cause if that man gets slapped around by a machine Eggman made, ain't no way he gonna win against Yamcha at best.
@@FluppietheRockruffFan you definitely don’t understand the material of the comics, that machine was quite literally made to counter Sonic’s abilities and over power his energy. And that was base form Sonic not his super forms base Sonic’s, and even base Archie Sonic was preforming against and beating uni-low multi characters and feats. Not to mention eggman is the same guy can make machines that can destroy universes and even multiverse, not to mention sonic has tons of other feats within Archie to place at those levels like 7D and even higher. Not only are you checking picking to fit an agenda, but your being disingenuous if your gonna act like dragon ball doesn’t have worse anti feats then sonic.
There is an upgraded version of various sonic mugen characters made by a dude named nitro mugen (he also made one of Vegeta), mostly he fixes the way the ai works making them much harder to fight, but in certain ones he adds certain new mechanics like dodging or dbzf dash, he made an edit of Mecha sonic that adds new moves and other stuff i mentioned earlier. Btw you guys made Sonic fight Goku op version 💀, that goku legits gets bar by standing still, I've made Sonic fight the normal version of that Goku and the match is a lot more fair
Sonic & Knuckle files from that Sonic Mugen might have their damage & defended value lowers. If you straight up pull from that mugen, then the characters might be imbalanced with this mugen. But generally All Form Sonic damage output always been so little, maybe because the creator though he might be overpower
true it might just be becuse the ai for those chareters are meant for their respected mugen and just like you said there is obviously imbalance and we seen loki play alot of sonic mugens so he knows sonic or god forbid shadic db, sonic.exe or the og shadic that had all the belts back then they are no jokes at all
@@ahritheninetailedfoxnaotos8246 I beg to differ, it’s always necessary that Vegeta has to flex on his prey after the fight. It’s for the Saiyan Pride.
Prolly the reason they were being gassed up is because they were talking about the op verisons who would've either had an equal fight or clapped altogether
Hey if you see this, In Sonic Battle HD can you do Ultra Ego Shadow and Hyper Shadow vs Master Ultra Instinct Sonic and Hyper Sonic. It would be a true battle of the gods
What an unfortunate day for Both Sonic and Knuckles, they also got robbed for getting clickbaited for expecting to go against nothing but DBZ characters when looking at the thumbnail.
Quick note: If goku WERE to go MUI he'd handle both knuckles and archie sonic, his damage is there, he has auto dodge (Doesn't even take bar) and he's faster than sonic which mugen can barely handle with bro moving across the screen
@@Diego_Brando3 1. CC Goku solos the sonic verse, you can cry about that And 2. Believing something doesn't make me a meat rider be smart and choose words before typing next time.
Bruh, this ass beating was too much. We need the ultimate lifeform to clap back for his verse. Let's also through Silver in there to reinact the death battle with Trunks.
And let's hope Loki fes plays silver like how he handled trunks in death battle. That is by keeping your distance from foes. You could probably take on everybody with silver when at distance. But I'm not sure because I've never played this game.
Can you do another one of these but this time you play as Surge the Tenrec? I’ve seen the video where you play as her and it’s one of my favorite videos from you
i think you should try the sa sonic mod for srb2 edit: go to the control configuration and map the pause / run retry button to a button on your keyboard or controller and read the text above the pause screen after turning on the mod and entering a level
as a Sonic fan... I gotta defend my team. Through the I noticed that Sonic doesn't do as much damage as Goku, he even takes alota damage. I'm pretty experienced in Mugen myself, kinda, and I'ma say somthing I'm sure you might know now, but may not have known 9 months ago. When editing a characters stats it can say the same numbers, but they wont be the same. This is actually pretty common among MUGEN characters, so balancing it out is mostly educated guesses depending on who made the characters. I think if Sonic and Knuckles had the same stats as Goku and Vegita MAYBE, just maybe, it would have been more fair. Goku and Vegeta do seem to have better AI's though, so I think they'd still win, it'd just be closer.
Sonic would fight better if he didn’t stand around doing his idle pose and transform his CPU isn’t really the greatness when it comes to transforming and Goku kept transforming to cheese his hit box and to escape Sonic’s combo therefore taking less damage it’s kinda unfair that Goku just transformed into every form to cheese the game
Super Sonic would literally kick Goku's ass easily because that form is powered by the chaos emeralds which has been stated to have limitless chaos energy within them so they could draw out as much power as necessary and have invulnerability which makes all form of harm or haxes either do absolutely nothing or have very little effect.
My question is what would Sonic do against Luffy because gear 5th just makes him into a cartoon so I don't know what Sonic would do against that if anybody has solutions please tell me
Sonic (All Forms) might be the best sonic mugen char, but his AI leaves a lot to be desired. He has access to waaay too many forms and he barely does anything with them. His damage output is also very poor. His power doesn't increase that much even in the more powerful forms (hyper, atomic) so he struggles with basically every other JUS char. Knuckles is a bit better in that regard (the dude actually uses his forms), but his damage output also kinda sucks.
There are cookies in the description go grab your self some Sonics and knuckles damage is too low in the Mugen you might need to buff them somehow or give them powers from the sonic mugen
Nah nah nah, sonic could lose to ichigo even cannonically, how? Ichigo is even faster than sonic, has a lot of attacks that are destructive and simply put, more stamina
Should of used Sonic OP. He literally fights better and makes better use of his forms. He also has clash mechanics with compitable characters. You're literally using the weakest version of the character lol. Also that's Goku OP he was fighting. The better version of that character. If he reached MUI he would auto-dodge EVERYTHING! So of course the regular version of Sonic has no chance :p
0:06 you heard that because it’s true in fact not a single anime character can beat sonic in a 1 on 1 let’s be honest 11:13 Hyper is stronger cuz ultra sonic is achieved by using 1 super emerald while hyper is achieved using all 7
Realistically, Base Sonic beats Goku’s ass until he goes Super Sayain. But the thing is, SSJ is a 50x boost (+ a bit more cuz of Mastered SSJ), but when Sonic goes Super, he is absolutely RAILING GOKU. Goku could probably be able to fight back if he transformed a bit further, but is Sonic is being powered up by *HEART,* *SOUL,* and the bonds of *FRIENDSHIP,* then it’s wraps (Sonic fans can confirm). If Goku don’t go UI, then Sonic is SPEED BLITZING GOKU.
Damn. Even Mario and Bowser did better, No wonder Sonic had to bring out the metal teacups of the cast just to beat them. Even Mario was able to beat Sonic. Mans just can't escape the beatings at this point.
Uhhhh Maybe you should change Goku OP to normal goku, cuz the guys behind Jump Force Mugen probably forgot to put default goku with all of his forms or they left it out on purpose, idk Goku OP is busted for no reason at all Also Sonic characters's stats are lower than the rest of the characters in Jump Force Mugen from what i remember Or put them slightly higher
I don’t think Super!Broly has any equivalent in the Sonic series (yet). But if we’re talking Z!Broly? Surge from the IDW comics definitely fits the bill. She has absurd levels of power, was used as a weapon by someone else, and wants nothing more than to turn the main character of the franchise into a smear on the pavement.
People severely underestimate even game Sonic. The feat mapping or whatever for game Sonic is done so terribly. People gotta keep in mind, The End has the power to destroy all of existence and Sonic one shot The End. One fuggin hit. As well, Super Sonic, Shadow, and Solaris were required to beat Solaris. Infinite was stated to be the strongest thing Sonic has ever fought at the time of Forces. He lost to him twice and in the same day surpassed him with his base form. The Phantom Ruby is comparable to the Seven Emeralds and slightly stronger. The Time Eater was insane enough to bring back the timeline of 06 that was erased completely from existence, base Modern and Classic sonic both survived being hit by it. Take that same Sonic, he's stronger then Infinite, has grown who knows how much stronger. The Titans are unphased by Sonic in his base state. Giganto with full power and intent to murder (keep in mind GIganto could keep up with Kronos Super Sonic) threw Sonic through walls and he survived. Durability check. Each successive Titan is significantly stronger then the last. Sonic struggles against Giganto in Super, and by the end of it he makes quick work of Supreme with no sweat. The strongest Titan there is. And since IDW and Prime are cannon. As Prime has stated, the different places are full blown realities. Sonic with his speed alone is able to run through them. Cyberspace is alternate dimensions. He ran out of Null Space (another area of space where literally nothing exist) with his speed alone. Speed feats check. Power feats check. Durability feats check. Battle feats check. Weapon mastery check. (Sonic could wield Caliburn and learned to use him immediately/intelligence feat check honestly). Yes base sonic is stronger at the time of Forces then all three 06 Super Hedgehogs combined lol
@@rafaelzavros4391 You see Sonic has a big ego and he really likes to go though Adventures no matter what the stakes, so if Sonic would endure what was happening at One Piece then Sonic would have a terribly boring time being with those characters. If you know anything about the Sonic franchise is that there a lot of questionable things about this franchise, I’m 100% positive that Luffy is going to make fun of Sonic because Luffy this the type of character to judge other franchises (mainly franchises that takes themselves seriously, which the Sonic franchise has some of that DNA). Also let’s not forget that Sonics main focus is Speed (it’s in the name BTW), being a character that focuses on Speed I’m positive that Sonic would highly dislike One Piece (And every other Shonen Jump) since those Anime are way too slow.
@@kirbyplier I mean, Sonic enjoys adventures more when he's with friends and both he and Luffy live with a carefree attitude. I'm sure that they both would have a good time together as long as they're having fun discovering new places along with their friends. I can't speak about VERY Shounen protagonist and his relationship with Sonic, but Luffy has made friends and allies throughout the story way more peculiar than Sonic.
It hurts to watch Sonic getting clapped. Like Knuckles already be scrappin' and being good at it. Sonic is barely trying. Also, lets be real. The actual stats for the characters are probably garbage without some tweaking.
Here’s the thing you forgot Loki hyper sonic has a ultimate special that can almost eliminate goku oh and both ultrasonic and hypersonic have ultimate ultimate ss so no sonic ain’t trash
Bro if you put sonic op all forms against Goku op sonic would go through his transformations bc the op version is designed to do/use everything in their kit in one fight
Amazing Thumbnail By - www.deviantart.com/cf2364
We need shadic
@@morgangammer1407 sonic AI needs to be update
Hey whats this mugen called can u put the link?
Let me lay it down for you super sonic after frontiers and Archie super sonic is stronger than mui Goku and manga Goku and Cc Goku and xeno Goku
That wasn't the best Mugen sonic the Mugen sonic is sonic tp
The reason people say Archie Sonic is OP is because in the Archie comics, Sonic’s speed is literally incalculable. Infinite. You ask how long it would take him to run from one place to another? The answer is “he’s already there.”
Also, Chaos Control in Archie comics isn’t just about teleporting or time manipulation. It can straight up do ANYTHING. Including granting wishes and rewriting reality.
Yeah, they really fumbled when making sonic in this mugen. Definitely not enough dmg
@@thevoidmagician6653fr my boy is doing literally no damage😭
@@Flap_jacks69 Or maybe they actually read the comics and know that Archie's feats are way overblown out of the water to be accurate, cause if that man gets slapped around by a machine Eggman made, ain't no way he gonna win against Yamcha at best.
@@FluppietheRockruffFan you definitely don’t understand the material of the comics, that machine was quite literally made to counter Sonic’s abilities and over power his energy. And that was base form Sonic not his super forms base Sonic’s, and even base Archie Sonic was preforming against and beating uni-low multi characters and feats.
Not to mention eggman is the same guy can make machines that can destroy universes and even multiverse, not to mention sonic has tons of other feats within Archie to place at those levels like 7D and even higher.
Not only are you checking picking to fit an agenda, but your being disingenuous if your gonna act like dragon ball doesn’t have worse anti feats then sonic.
@@Flap_jacks69 And yet all it took to beat Archie Sonic was attaching a bumper to a mech
There is an upgraded version of various sonic mugen characters made by a dude named nitro mugen (he also made one of Vegeta), mostly he fixes the way the ai works making them much harder to fight, but in certain ones he adds certain new mechanics like dodging or dbzf dash, he made an edit of Mecha sonic that adds new moves and other stuff i mentioned earlier.
Btw you guys made Sonic fight Goku op version 💀, that goku legits gets bar by standing still, I've made Sonic fight the normal version of that Goku and the match is a lot more fair
Yo please listen to this guy
He's right
Someone raise my boy's stats cause this crazy
I gotchu
No reason to, his hyper form has the damage, blame the CPU
Its done...
They need to balance out this game that's what they need to do
Sonic & Knuckle files from that Sonic Mugen might have their damage & defended value lowers. If you straight up pull from that mugen, then the characters might be imbalanced with this mugen. But generally All Form Sonic damage output always been so little, maybe because the creator though he might be overpower
which mugen is this?
If you play sonic mugens you know how busted the damage gets with the progressive forms
From the looks of it, the dps isn't the issue, more the cpu.
true it might just be becuse the ai for those chareters are meant for their respected mugen and just like you said there is obviously imbalance and we seen loki play alot of sonic mugens so he knows sonic or god forbid shadic db, sonic.exe or the og shadic that had all the belts back then they are no jokes at all
AF Sonic has crazy combo potential, so it makes sense that his damage output would be a little lower than other characters.
At the end of the day. We can all see that Knuckles put up a much better fight whenever he was on screen. And we got to admit he has good voice lines.
Too bad his strength feats doesn't scale to sonic's speed feats in the games or in the comics.
Sonic team didn’t deserve that disrespect from Vegeta at the end there
im saying
That flex was unnecessary Vegeta 😂
@@ahritheninetailedfoxnaotos8246 I beg to differ, it’s always necessary that Vegeta has to flex on his prey after the fight. It’s for the Saiyan Pride.
@@kirbyplier I know but the disrespect was funny
The best sonic, in my opinion, is tp sonic. Also, the sonic you were using had secret instakill moves in hyper and ultra
That’s so true
who’s tp sonic
Prolly the reason they were being gassed up is because they were talking about the op verisons who would've either had an equal fight or clapped altogether
Hey if you see this, In Sonic Battle HD can you do Ultra Ego Shadow and Hyper Shadow vs Master Ultra Instinct Sonic and Hyper Sonic. It would be a true battle of the gods
What an unfortunate day for Both Sonic and Knuckles, they also got robbed for getting clickbaited for expecting to go against nothing but DBZ characters when looking at the thumbnail.
Goku Solo's
Quick note: If goku WERE to go MUI he'd handle both knuckles and archie sonic, his damage is there, he has auto dodge (Doesn't even take bar) and he's faster than sonic which mugen can barely handle with bro moving across the screen
if you were talking about actual pwoer scaling and not the mugen game it would have been told you were a goku meat rider
power*
@@Diego_Brando3 1. CC Goku solos the sonic verse, you can cry about that
And 2. Believing something doesn't make me a meat rider be smart and choose words before typing next time.
@@skuforgottencap
@@Miabia2real It ain't cap, you just don't know how strong he is
Bruh, this ass beating was too much. We need the ultimate lifeform to clap back for his verse. Let's also through Silver in there to reinact the death battle with Trunks.
And let's hope Loki fes plays silver like how he handled trunks in death battle. That is by keeping your distance from foes. You could probably take on everybody with silver when at distance. But I'm not sure because I've never played this game.
This isn't death battle
Can you do another one of these but this time you play as Surge the Tenrec? I’ve seen the video where you play as her and it’s one of my favorite videos from you
Loki u do know there is the V2 of that sonic right?
Bro piccolo acted like he does in the show no time waisting just pure hands
Man I don't know why but does anyone remember sonic zombies
The sonic Mugen hd characters have a Stat and AI updated this Mugen sonic is the Old one.
Edit: I don't remember if they have Sonic OP on this Mugen.
Bruh the stats are actually heartbreaking
i think you should try the sa sonic mod for srb2
edit: go to the control configuration and map the pause / run retry button to a button on your keyboard or controller and read the text above the pause screen after turning on the mod and entering a level
can i have the link for the anime mugen
We need to see the ultimate team up. Sonic EXE and Fleetway they be caught in bodies
Great video man i'm sad that team sonic did terrible at least knuckles fought back....can't wait for shadow.
we need an upgraded version of sonic in this mugen his damage is piss poor
No Loki just forgot his ultimate specials
Also there's a sonic called super sonic choas op you can use that one he's beyond broken.
This video was absolutely amazing, just straight sarbarashi
Can anyone gave me the link for this game?
Nah bro Goku and Vegeta were just spamming ki blast and that did a lot of damage to both knuckles and sonic
Sonic vs. Jenny XJ9 would be a fun one to see
Just as a woke up he uploads, I can tell this will be a Awesome Day. W Man’s
You should do Sonic TP Next
It’s the fact that this Sonic’s mod damage isn’t high
Loki try beast Gohan vs mui goku
That was sad for team sonic but in real fight sonic and knuckle will clap them
In your fantasy world he's not clapping goku stop dick eating all your life.
Fr
Vegeta flexing at the end😂
as a Sonic fan... I gotta defend my team.
Through the I noticed that Sonic doesn't do as much damage as Goku, he even takes alota damage. I'm pretty experienced in Mugen myself, kinda, and I'ma say somthing I'm sure you might know now, but may not have known 9 months ago.
When editing a characters stats it can say the same numbers, but they wont be the same. This is actually pretty common among MUGEN characters, so balancing it out is mostly educated guesses depending on who made the characters. I think if Sonic and Knuckles had the same stats as Goku and Vegita MAYBE, just maybe, it would have been more fair. Goku and Vegeta do seem to have better AI's though, so I think they'd still win, it'd just be closer.
Sonic would fight better if he didn’t stand around doing his idle pose and transform his CPU isn’t really the greatness when it comes to transforming and Goku kept transforming to cheese his hit box and to escape Sonic’s combo therefore taking less damage it’s kinda unfair that Goku just transformed into every form to cheese the game
honestly I love mugen games with like almost every character whether it be cartoon to movies
How did you even download this 😅
I need the link to this Loki 😅
brother we need more rivals of aether on the channel with the boys also fire vid
True That Game Was HEAT
Super Sonic would literally kick Goku's ass easily because that form is powered by the chaos emeralds which has been stated to have limitless chaos energy within them so they could draw out as much power as necessary and have invulnerability which makes all form of harm or haxes either do absolutely nothing or have very little effect.
14:42 Screenshot potential.
The wah bomb and sonic transformed immediately sonic be like nuh uh I gonna get my get back
Do you have a tutorial for this game? I really want it
I wonder if cram could defeat EXE or shadic if she wanted to?
Ay Loki You Should Run It Back But Replace sonic all forms with Sonic TP.
Hey loki fes
Where was exe at plus I didn't see his dark form. Also if my favorite character is showing up for the next episode I need to see Shadic
My question is what would Sonic do against Luffy because gear 5th just makes him into a cartoon so I don't know what Sonic would do against that if anybody has solutions please tell me
No matter what happens to Sonic the hedgehog you still in against any anime character
Also do vegito and gogeta vs shadow and sonic (dark from)
Honestly against goku wasnt fair cause gokus ki blasts do insane dmg and in x10blue he has auto dodge.
Sonic (All Forms) might be the best sonic mugen char, but his AI leaves a lot to be desired. He has access to waaay too many forms and he barely does anything with them.
His damage output is also very poor. His power doesn't increase that much even in the more powerful forms (hyper, atomic) so he struggles with basically every other JUS char.
Knuckles is a bit better in that regard (the dude actually uses his forms), but his damage output also kinda sucks.
Oh nah that ending was too disrespectful initiate the ultimate life form
Hey Loki in jump force Mugen there is goku terror I’m telling you he is broken
oh i know he's beyond DISGUSTING
what mugen is this?
Oh moaaann !!! Sonic solo evErYoNe !!!!! Bro
🤨
How could you NOT bring out the Ultimate Lifeform to this Mugen?!
There are cookies in the description go grab your self some
Sonics and knuckles damage is too low in the Mugen you might need to buff them somehow or give them powers from the sonic mugen
you should use Sonic TP.
Nah nah nah, sonic could lose to ichigo even cannonically, how? Ichigo is even faster than sonic, has a lot of attacks that are destructive and simply put, more stamina
Gotta get sonic tp in here he actually transforms fr
what was the name of the game?
Don’t forget to give shadow his bible 😂😂😂
he really just called lightspeed sonic kiaoken smh
i know what i said, Not changing it
@@LokiFESwhy did you make sonic fight goku op at least use sonic op against him 😅
@@LokiFESout of topic what do you think about sonic frontiers update 2
You should of added sonic.ex’s
Bro hyper is more broken than ultra
Should of used Sonic OP. He literally fights better and makes better use of his forms. He also has clash mechanics with compitable characters. You're literally using the weakest version of the character lol. Also that's Goku OP he was fighting. The better version of that character. If he reached MUI he would auto-dodge EVERYTHING! So of course the regular version of Sonic has no chance :p
if hyper was in r
the comics he would be the strongest form since ultra sonic is equivalent to sonic using one super emerald and hyper is all 7
Bro battle of demons: devil Mario vs sonic.exe
We all know shadic is a God you should add him
Bro flexed tag the end
Pink looks good on knuckles
14:48 bro Goku did a Knuckles
Edit: for context, knuckles knocked sonic out of his super form
idk why but in most videos sonic all forms usually transforms into werehog and not any of the other forms
AI just knows how to box, rather than transform unfortunately
speaking of domain expansion did yall see the first episode of jjk season 2
i didn't, i normally wait for animes to finish then binge em
0:06 you heard that because it’s true in fact not a single anime character can beat sonic in a 1 on 1 let’s be honest 11:13 Hyper is stronger cuz ultra sonic is achieved by using 1 super emerald while hyper is achieved using all 7
Realistically, Base Sonic beats Goku’s ass until he goes Super Sayain. But the thing is, SSJ is a 50x boost (+ a bit more cuz of Mastered SSJ), but when Sonic goes Super, he is absolutely RAILING GOKU. Goku could probably be able to fight back if he transformed a bit further, but is Sonic is being powered up by *HEART,* *SOUL,* and the bonds of *FRIENDSHIP,* then it’s wraps (Sonic fans can confirm). If Goku don’t go UI, then Sonic is SPEED BLITZING GOKU.
Bring the other Mugen sonic to this Mugen. You will notice the difference :)
Damn. Even Mario and Bowser did better, No wonder Sonic had to bring out the metal teacups of the cast just to beat them. Even Mario was able to beat Sonic. Mans just can't escape the beatings at this point.
bro the dmg output of the sonic characters were bad here , he didnt get the newest version of them
Would you say tails is Gohan
Uhhhh
Maybe you should change Goku OP to normal goku, cuz the guys behind Jump Force Mugen probably forgot to put default goku with all of his forms or they left it out on purpose, idk
Goku OP is busted for no reason at all
Also Sonic characters's stats are lower than the rest of the characters in Jump Force Mugen from what i remember
Or put them slightly higher
Set the ai to highest level for both sides lol
The Sonic in the Jump Force mugen is ass 😂 you should've changed him to a updated version
fr
they did my boy sonic dirty bruh
Bro why did they nerf sonic to the max like that?
Also super tales isn't a thing if you're talking about classic
What game is this
Jump force mugen
Nazo is broly because if you think sonic and shadow had to fuse to defeat nazo
Actually he’s more like omega shenron
More Zamasu than broly.
@@TheLBat20that works too.
I don’t think Super!Broly has any equivalent in the Sonic series (yet). But if we’re talking Z!Broly? Surge from the IDW comics definitely fits the bill. She has absurd levels of power, was used as a weapon by someone else, and wants nothing more than to turn the main character of the franchise into a smear on the pavement.
Nazo was made before the super broly movie Nazo is more based on random dbz villains mostly Cell
People severely underestimate even game Sonic. The feat mapping or whatever for game Sonic is done so terribly. People gotta keep in mind, The End has the power to destroy all of existence and Sonic one shot The End. One fuggin hit.
As well, Super Sonic, Shadow, and Solaris were required to beat Solaris. Infinite was stated to be the strongest thing Sonic has ever fought at the time of Forces. He lost to him twice and in the same day surpassed him with his base form. The Phantom Ruby is comparable to the Seven Emeralds and slightly stronger. The Time Eater was insane enough to bring back the timeline of 06 that was erased completely from existence, base Modern and Classic sonic both survived being hit by it.
Take that same Sonic, he's stronger then Infinite, has grown who knows how much stronger. The Titans are unphased by Sonic in his base state. Giganto with full power and intent to murder (keep in mind GIganto could keep up with Kronos Super Sonic) threw Sonic through walls and he survived. Durability check. Each successive Titan is significantly stronger then the last. Sonic struggles against Giganto in Super, and by the end of it he makes quick work of Supreme with no sweat. The strongest Titan there is.
And since IDW and Prime are cannon. As Prime has stated, the different places are full blown realities. Sonic with his speed alone is able to run through them. Cyberspace is alternate dimensions. He ran out of Null Space (another area of space where literally nothing exist) with his speed alone.
Speed feats check. Power feats check. Durability feats check. Battle feats check. Weapon mastery check. (Sonic could wield Caliburn and learned to use him immediately/intelligence feat check honestly).
Yes base sonic is stronger at the time of Forces then all three 06 Super Hedgehogs combined lol
Mugen isn't what what would actually happened sonic dog walks anime easily
I feel like the they did the files wrong😭
Honestly Sonic and Luffy would be best friends if they ever met
i can actually see that
Nope, I’m pretty sure that Sonic would be fed up with Luffys BS and would just trash that Shonen Sloths ass under a nanosecond.
@@kirbyplier Nah, Sonic is easygoing with everyone he meets and Luffy makes friends wherever he goes so they'd definitely be best buds.
@@rafaelzavros4391 You see Sonic has a big ego and he really likes to go though Adventures no matter what the stakes, so if Sonic would endure what was happening at One Piece then Sonic would have a terribly boring time being with those characters. If you know anything about the Sonic franchise is that there a lot of questionable things about this franchise, I’m 100% positive that Luffy is going to make fun of Sonic because Luffy this the type of character to judge other franchises (mainly franchises that takes themselves seriously, which the Sonic franchise has some of that DNA). Also let’s not forget that Sonics main focus is Speed (it’s in the name BTW), being a character that focuses on Speed I’m positive that Sonic would highly dislike One Piece (And every other Shonen Jump) since those Anime are way too slow.
@@kirbyplier I mean, Sonic enjoys adventures more when he's with friends and both he and Luffy live with a carefree attitude. I'm sure that they both would have a good time together as long as they're having fun discovering new places along with their friends. I can't speak about VERY Shounen protagonist and his relationship with Sonic, but Luffy has made friends and allies throughout the story way more peculiar than Sonic.
YESSIR WE ARE BACKK
Goku solo 😊
Goku solo 😊
Man sonic got shafted, give knuckles all forms how own episode bruh
It hurts to watch Sonic getting clapped. Like Knuckles already be scrappin' and being good at it. Sonic is barely trying. Also, lets be real. The actual stats for the characters are probably garbage without some tweaking.
😂
Here’s the thing you forgot Loki hyper sonic has a ultimate special that can almost eliminate goku oh and both ultrasonic and hypersonic have ultimate ultimate ss so no sonic ain’t trash
You put them against the op versions of the anime characters pay attention to the name of them
Bro if you put sonic op all forms against Goku op sonic would go through his transformations bc the op version is designed to do/use everything in their kit in one fight