The Slow Death of GTA's Only Rival

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  • @haku_haku_haku
    @haku_haku_haku  17 днів тому +355

    Thanks for watching, I put a stupid amount of time into this vid so I hope it shows. Please sub and all that if you enjoyed.
    (Also about the GTA 4 posters, my point was that ingame they look so different from the adverts that they might as well be different people. Like Gravelli's ingame model doesn't even have legs lol)
    Playlist of my GTA videos:
    ua-cam.com/play/PLby1udQYSkC8bcSy-Z1zyXkqTN-Eb_bSO.html

    • @mazza-313
      @mazza-313 17 днів тому +5

      45 min ago?

    • @rispy4875
      @rispy4875 14 днів тому +2

      Your wrong, we also had mafia

    • @bushdid9-10
      @bushdid9-10 12 днів тому

      Saints row 2 was my favorite and saints row 3 was the last one I liked I dident care for saints 4 get out of hell or the other dlc for that game where u were the president lol

    • @qyb4555
      @qyb4555 11 днів тому

      Looks like it showed! Great video man

    • @semtexgnome12
      @semtexgnome12 10 днів тому

      It wasn't the Dev's fault for changing and killing Saints Row, it was the GTA SA and GTA VC fanboys...

  • @mjstwocents4568
    @mjstwocents4568 17 днів тому +3240

    There was a developer at Volition who wanted to fix the PC port of Saints Row 2 but unfortunately he died of cancer if I remember correctly. We were ALMOST there

    • @SecretMagician
      @SecretMagician 17 днів тому +476

      To top it all off, one member of his crew was underqualified for the work and basically lied about his experience, so barely any work was done if I'm not wrong.

    • @mjstwocents4568
      @mjstwocents4568 17 днів тому +62

      @@SecretMagician Geez, I didn't know that. What a bummer lol

    • @SecretMagician
      @SecretMagician 17 днів тому +115

      @@mjstwocents4568 Flippy made a whole video about it if you want further data.

    • @NwahEnjoyer
      @NwahEnjoyer 17 днів тому +20

      That's sad

    • @Puffypoo574
      @Puffypoo574 16 днів тому +21

      It’s the Gentlemen of the Row mod if anybody’s wondering

  • @TJfrmdaP
    @TJfrmdaP 17 днів тому +3791

    I’m just sad the saints row series is over 🥲

    • @haku_haku_haku
      @haku_haku_haku  17 днів тому +367

      Same man. It's not impossible for it to come back, but it is extremely unlikely.

    • @shhh5743
      @shhh5743 17 днів тому +18

      Same

    • @Assassino275
      @Assassino275 17 днів тому

      Go buy some cod points, that'll cheer your dumbass up

    • @KidneyStealer02
      @KidneyStealer02 17 днів тому +41

      Same, it make me question. Who cloud make Saints Row next?

    • @swakv
      @swakv 17 днів тому +45

      @@KidneyStealer02 Me

  • @RollingxBigshot
    @RollingxBigshot 16 днів тому +1679

    They let being called a gta clone get to them so much that they went way out of their way just to be called different.

    • @-landon931
      @-landon931 14 днів тому +143

      So, they're a teenage girl?

    • @crisprcas09
      @crisprcas09 14 днів тому +14

      @@-landon931lol

    • @TheWaynester101
      @TheWaynester101 13 днів тому +108

      In the end, the achieved the goal. They are different. GTA is good, alive, and loved by its players, saints row sucked, dead, and hated by its players.

    • @sukunawillstillwin
      @sukunawillstillwin 13 днів тому +7

      which isn’t bad. i liked 4

    • @ZaeOSWS
      @ZaeOSWS 13 днів тому +54

      @@TheWaynester101first 3 didn’t suck, just derailed afterwards

  • @mustafarassa898
    @mustafarassa898 10 днів тому +446

    “GTA had a serious gritty atmosphere!”
    *Shows Lady Liberty holding a coffee cup*

    • @dannylamb456
      @dannylamb456 9 днів тому +15

      Well, gritty-er than wacky San Andreas.

    • @StryderK
      @StryderK 8 днів тому +4

      Which clashed violently with its serious, gritty atmosphere to the point it distract from the game sometimes.

    • @Dalton_Boardman2000
      @Dalton_Boardman2000 7 днів тому +4

      I love to play GTA for it's gameplay and radio stations but idk, I've never found the satire that funny, not as an adult at least. Saints Row in comparison liked to develop it's characters who lived in a wacky world, helped by it not using the anthology format of GTA so they could grow over the years. There was satire but it usually wasn't jaded or too cynical. GTA 5 had the worse attempts at satire in my opinion for how forced and intrusive it was. It's unsubtle, unconstrunctive, and tends to come off as whinny to me, especially when they make characters that are a personified criticisms or stereotypes. I HATED Michael's entire family. The game gave me absolutely no reason to care about them. Jimmy was just "gamers are obnoxious" Tracey was "bratty girls are obnoxious" Amanda was "wives are obnoxious." The game is always like "Hey, isn't [_] stupid and annoying, here's a character who exists just to show that!" The reason Red Dead Redemption is my favorite Rockstar game series isn't just for gameplay but because the protagonist and NPCs are much more fleshed out and exist separately than just lampooning American culture. Abigail isn't a sexist caricature of a late 1800s/early 1900s woman but has actual importance by being part of John's conscience. Swanson wasn't just a slapstick comic relief drunk and his alcoholism was played for drama. I do love GTA and I'm gonna grab VI as soon as it's available but I'm hoping they do dial it back slightly and try to make the characters a bit more fun to be around. Hopefully not like Saints Row Reboot where the gang are an unbearably cringe group of buddies who always get along but just develop characters the player could get attached to even with unlikable traits.
      Edit: Sorry for making this so long. Time escaped me.

    • @brandonsteele2826
      @brandonsteele2826 7 днів тому +1

      I always thought the gta games dialed up the absurdity too much. Like CJ talking about how corrupt the cops are for framing him for a murder he didnt commit. But then he kills like 10 people every day. I was actually hoping red dead 2 would be more serious. Maybe it is a little bit, but it still has that absurdist tone.

    • @axel665
      @axel665 7 днів тому

      ​@@brandonsteele2826red dead has an honour system you cant actually murde people without consequences.

  • @nerolmars3701
    @nerolmars3701 5 днів тому +111

    Saints Row 3 is one of my all time favourite gaming memories. My life was trash, I was smoking waaaay too much, but this game was my only relief from living in a nightmare. I'm sad it's over, but happy my life is better now.

    • @GHOSTPRO7089
      @GHOSTPRO7089 2 дні тому +4

      I was growing up in a mentally abusive household, saints row 3 was a good break from it all, giving me a somewhat serious but funny game to play, 4 did too but it never felt right

    • @nerolmars3701
      @nerolmars3701 2 дні тому +1

      @ I’m sorry to hear you went through that kind of experience and I hope life has treated you better since then. I agree though 4 just didn’t hit the same.

    • @InglouriousFrogs
      @InglouriousFrogs 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@GHOSTPRO7089yeah gaming really is a safe space and makes u forget about it all for a moment, glad u made it trough hell

    • @GHOSTPRO7089
      @GHOSTPRO7089 День тому

      @ oh don’t worry, I moved out the second I graduated, like took a 180

    • @GHOSTPRO7089
      @GHOSTPRO7089 День тому

      @ gaming has helped many through worse, I’m lucky that moving out at graduation was an option for me

  • @davisfromthehills7521
    @davisfromthehills7521 17 днів тому +1316

    apparently, the SR reboot WAS supposed to return to the gangster roots of the series, but Deep Silver forced Volition to make the game into what it is today
    i really wish i could have seen the original vision for the reboot

    • @haku_haku_haku
      @haku_haku_haku  17 днів тому +211

      You probably know this already, but Mrsaintsgodzilla21 is currently making a video about all that behind the scenes NDA stuff. It'll probably be the clearest vision we'll get about what the reboot was originally meant to be and what exactly went wrong with it.

    • @commanderblack5045
      @commanderblack5045 17 днів тому +36

      ​@@haku_haku_haku i can't wait and really need to check it out since the deep silver thing sounds like if they are big GTA Fans and wanted Saints Row to fail, but at the same time it was said that they are reason too why Payday3 ended up bad

    • @stobeznog878
      @stobeznog878 17 днів тому +14

      ​@@haku_haku_hakuhes been making this video for more than a year at this point

    • @b1bbscraz3y
      @b1bbscraz3y 17 днів тому +19

      Saints Row 2 was so good, the greatest one in the series. I even love GTA 4 and still think SR2 is only slightly below GTA 4. if GTA 4 was a 10/10 I would give SR2 a 9/10. the third one was actually relatively ok for what it was. then the 4th one was just terrible and became way too cartoony

    • @Gogeta2501
      @Gogeta2501 16 днів тому +31

      Deep silver is trash

  • @CalebFrmDa615
    @CalebFrmDa615 17 днів тому +562

    i’ll never forget playing Saints Row 1 & 3 with my sister far too young to understand the storytelling but just having a blast with the soundtracks and gameplay. R.I.P Saints Row

    • @haku_haku_haku
      @haku_haku_haku  17 днів тому +41

      hold up you played 1, but then skipped 2 and went onto 3? I've never seen someone do that before lol

    • @CalebFrmDa615
      @CalebFrmDa615 17 днів тому +24

      @ actually no i played the 2nd game very early, so 2nd, 3rd, 1st, 4th

    • @nicholasclermont7390
      @nicholasclermont7390 14 днів тому +2

      @@haku_haku_haku well for me it more weird bc i played SR2 first, second was SR4 ( but it was my dad who bought it for me at launch, cuz he saw me playing SR2, thinking it was SR3....), but then i bought SR3 to understand the story. later on i bought back SR2,3,4 with all dlc including Gat out of hell on PC, never found SR 1 for xbox 360 anywhere and i didn't know i could buy it on the xbox store until microsoft close the online store. and the reboot...... i agree fun mechanic with the gun and other stuff, the map was awesome, the empire system was great, but the story and your gang from wish was so bad like it was a poor sitcom and felt like it was made by Ai, so i never finish it plus all the bug.

    • @-THE-REPENT-
      @-THE-REPENT- 13 днів тому +3

      SR1 AND 2 are the only good ones out of the series. Couldn't even bring myself to beat 3 forget the rest.

    • @kmk900___
      @kmk900___ 13 днів тому +1

      Yeah I remember me and my cousins would just play the 3rd for hours lol

  • @C_Engineer
    @C_Engineer 13 днів тому +201

    Saints Row 1 and 2 were some of my favorite childhood games. Miss them

    • @ShawnBond-jf9sr
      @ShawnBond-jf9sr 9 днів тому

      Agreed did not know the company went under but not surprised given how bad the Saints were reboot was that was his chance to get their shit together and instead it led to their destruction

    • @alexrivera633
      @alexrivera633 6 днів тому

      I loved saints row 1 had a lot of fun

    • @juxiex6387
      @juxiex6387 3 дні тому +1

      4 was decent

    • @ahriboy
      @ahriboy День тому

      GTAVC was my childhood game. But still, GTA is a cool franchise.

  • @TheWrathfulOni
    @TheWrathfulOni 13 днів тому +129

    The new Saints row game was a public execution, rip.

  • @bandalodyugitube
    @bandalodyugitube 8 днів тому +17

    "I've never seen a company make so many stupid decisions, and still get so many second chances. All the while refusing to learn anything from their mistakes, or listen to their fans."
    *Bathesda has entered the chat*

  • @Pyro-Moloch
    @Pyro-Moloch 17 днів тому +556

    Saints Row 2, despite being humorous at times, was still grounded enough to be taken seriously. Getting bigger and growing your empire actually felt like an achievement. Saints Row 3 was so wild that it almost felt like nothing you do matters, it's all a big crazy circus.

    • @Trendkilla
      @Trendkilla 14 днів тому +24

      Exactly lets not forget that the cartoonish approach they ended up taking was the ending of the series.

    • @derederekat9051
      @derederekat9051 14 днів тому +10

      this, for me it was like playing Scarface the world is yours all over again.

    • @lisaanimi
      @lisaanimi 14 днів тому +20

      I like being called out by how I like SR3 because it was my first Saints Row but later realised that 2 is actually batter

    • @kingjhove3710
      @kingjhove3710 13 днів тому +7

      FACTS Saints row 2 really my favorite felt like I was getting work done and it was leading to building my business💯

    • @CarlosDangerPowers
      @CarlosDangerPowers 12 днів тому +9

      Saints Row 2 felt real with crazy stuff thrown in. Once Saints Row 3 came out, every single thing became a punch line. I still had fun with 3 and 4 but it was a different franchise

  • @nobbyfirefly57
    @nobbyfirefly57 16 днів тому +275

    Competition is important. Now such competition no longer exists, Rockstar knows for sure that they can just sit on their asses all day while letting the GTA online money flow in.

    • @Pat12379
      @Pat12379 14 днів тому +14

      I'd like a game somewhere in England that's something like gta its also be better if ut was set in like the 60s it'd make it alot more unique

    • @dres
      @dres 13 днів тому +3

      pinned comment worthy take

    • @angrycinnamontoast794
      @angrycinnamontoast794 12 днів тому +12

      Without competition, Rockstar can let their games slowly simmer and cook without being disturbed resulting in a better product than when they had competition. Why'd you think Rockstar's best games were after the eliminated the competition?

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 11 днів тому +2

      But competiton to grand theft auto is meaningless when it’ll outsell it anyways

    • @nobbyfirefly57
      @nobbyfirefly57 11 днів тому +1

      @@staringcorgi6475 I meant competition that is big enough to actually count as a competitor. Ones that are big enough to actually threaten the profits of GTA.

  • @kanyejones3194
    @kanyejones3194 17 днів тому +581

    How can you remember gta advanced but not ballad of gay tony?

    • @Arqade420
      @Arqade420 17 днів тому +29

      It's a dlc not a game on it's own

    • @redlight3932
      @redlight3932 17 днів тому +140

      @@Arqade420 tell that to the load screen

    • @Puppy_Puppington
      @Puppy_Puppington 17 днів тому +44

      @@Arqade420well. Idk episodes from liberty city is its own thing ….

    • @kanyejones3194
      @kanyejones3194 17 днів тому +23

      He included lost and dammed tough

    • @galaxiiprotogen
      @galaxiiprotogen 16 днів тому +4

      @@kanyejones3194 and tlad and ctw came out after gta 4

  • @internetnobody6754
    @internetnobody6754 12 днів тому +37

    its crazy in these days that if you make one flop your publisher will just shut your whole studio down. This is why AAA games are no longer the ones pushing for innovation and are all just stale re-hash, reboots, or sequels. Indie games went from "hey remember that old game you used to love well here it is again" to the peak of new and interesting gameplay while AAA has gone the complete opposite direction.

    • @dominquedoty458
      @dominquedoty458 5 днів тому +5

      100% Agree with you. Rarely AAA games invent new stuff...Otherwise. Just copy and paste anymore.

  • @petermj1098
    @petermj1098 13 днів тому +90

    GTA games feel like AMC shows. Saint Row games feel like Netflix shows. Mafia games feel like HBO shows.

    • @cooliostarstache5474
      @cooliostarstache5474 4 дні тому

      That's... actually a perfect description

    • @skinnykid8524
      @skinnykid8524 3 дні тому

      What?

    • @KLINonskib
      @KLINonskib 2 дні тому

      What about sleeping dogs. Could be hulu or crunchyroll

    • @skinnykid8524
      @skinnykid8524 2 дні тому

      @KLINonskib This entire analogy makes no sense to me.

    • @MrJwoodzzz
      @MrJwoodzzz 11 годин тому

      @KLINonskib100% a Netflix show solid game

  • @GivvyOfficial94
    @GivvyOfficial94 17 днів тому +302

    I lowkey always felt like Rockstar paid Volition to take Saints Row sideways, they were literally killing it than switched up so much it never made sense to me

    • @QPoker-r1o
      @QPoker-r1o 17 днів тому +11

      I don’t think so

    • @evandaymon8303
      @evandaymon8303 17 днів тому +20

      Part of me feels like that could be plausible but deep down. They made nearly billons with gta 5 so doubtful that could be it. Why do that when you know your competition fuck up on its own?

    • @kilarymz4life772
      @kilarymz4life772 17 днів тому +10

      @GivvyOfficial94 exactly what I was thinking too. Rockstar has no competition. It's a no brainer. Saints row is their biggest runner up.

    • @thrashertrash7331
      @thrashertrash7331 17 днів тому +21

      Rockstar made so much money from the GTA games, most especially GTA V. I love Saints Row, but they were hardly a competition for GTA, even with 1 & 2.

    • @TheFivegoodemperors
      @TheFivegoodemperors 16 днів тому +10

      @@thrashertrash7331 that’s true but it was crazy that Saints could even compete with a juggernaut like GTA at any level at all. It was basically the closest thing it ever got to a rival.

  • @dvoslb1974
    @dvoslb1974 15 днів тому +644

    Not liking gta 4 is crazy

    • @thatguy3000
      @thatguy3000 15 днів тому +48

      Most gamers were kids when GTA 4 and Saints Row 2 came out. Adult gamers were very small across the region.

    • @allenparedes6132
      @allenparedes6132 15 днів тому +24

      GTA 4 is overrated. It was devoid of originality.

    • @Brunze
      @Brunze 15 днів тому +150

      @@allenparedes6132nah what are you talking about

    • @maxpayne4315
      @maxpayne4315 14 днів тому +6

      I am also not a fan but I still respect its cool mechanic.

    • @Meth4
      @Meth4 14 днів тому +24

      @@allenparedes6132bro what, every gta game is filled with cliches and content that cou- nevermind I’m disappointed in you

  • @robanator9083
    @robanator9083 17 днів тому +734

    I seriously hope that GTA 6 will include a joke about the SR Reboot in the same way that GTA 5 made fun of SR4

    • @oliverkoch8211
      @oliverkoch8211 17 днів тому +21

      how did they make fun of it?

    • @robanator9083
      @robanator9083 17 днів тому +332

      @@oliverkoch8211 the mission where Michael gets high on weed and guns down aliens with a minigun

    • @DingoXBX
      @DingoXBX 17 днів тому +27

      lmao i never even noticed that

    • @oliverkoch8211
      @oliverkoch8211 17 днів тому +40

      @@robanator9083 yeah i can see the connection now

    • @KidneyStealer02
      @KidneyStealer02 17 днів тому +20

      @@robanator9083how is that reference to saints row 4 lol

  • @1SheepishWolf
    @1SheepishWolf 10 днів тому +69

    There is no Saints Row after Saints Row 2

    • @MpMan-w5d
      @MpMan-w5d 8 днів тому +15

      I liked the 3rd part played it for an hour atleast always enjoyed pulling those wwe moves on NPCs

    • @Beantastrophe
      @Beantastrophe 8 днів тому +1

      Pimp slap with zero gravity was fun

    • @drlca6601
      @drlca6601 День тому +2

      @@MpMan-w5d 3rd was a fever dream with good features, but some terrible design choices. SR2 was the last SR!

  • @MattSinz
    @MattSinz 13 днів тому +12

    Saints Row: Gat out of Hell: Am I a joke to you?
    Everyone: Yes.

    • @RedxLilxSleepy
      @RedxLilxSleepy 13 днів тому +1

      Og saints row 1 players when the developers fumble another game: first time?

  • @12DAMDO
    @12DAMDO 17 днів тому +120

    "in Saints Row you can throw people off a bridge, in GTA IV the main character wants to throw himself off a bridge"
    it hurts how accurate this is..
    but you are wrong about "this guy wasn't in the game" that's Mikhail Faustin!

  • @jamesawwyea
    @jamesawwyea 17 днів тому +60

    Saints Row 2 is still one of my favorite games

  • @hommeboy
    @hommeboy 17 днів тому +75

    My uncle gave me all his 360 games as a kid which included SR 1 & 2 that remain dear to me.

  • @joemama6474
    @joemama6474 14 днів тому +39

    The saddest part about this is not even a month ago I was taking with my brother about how they should make a new saints row games because I honestly missed them 😭 we was thinking the same shit too. Come to find out they made one in 2022 and I never even knew because it was that bad.. sad days lol

  • @imaz0mbie_
    @imaz0mbie_ 13 днів тому +12

    >looks at faustin
    "yeah he's not in the game"

    • @ColinGarwood-ex6pq
      @ColinGarwood-ex6pq 5 днів тому

      I know how does he not know who he is?🤣🤣🤣

    • @DEANDRE_DTS
      @DEANDRE_DTS 4 дні тому

      Right , that’s straight up Faustin
      he even wearing the same clothes

  • @SzajKornik
    @SzajKornik 17 днів тому +216

    Iirc the idea for original Saints Row 5 was to go back to a more serious story, akin to GTA IV. Instead, we got a circus.
    Saints Row 2 was an amazing mix between serious (*) story and fun gameplay.

    • @danielsmokesmids
      @danielsmokesmids 17 днів тому +9

      definitely had to throw the asterisk on serious😂 the game was definitely over the top and wacky, but grounded at the same time. it felt like it was barely sticking to the ground, and that was the fun. then saints row 3 just flew off the ground and forgot about being grounded at all

    • @silkwind7618
      @silkwind7618 13 днів тому

      *A CENSORED Circus at that

    • @RedxLilxSleepy
      @RedxLilxSleepy 13 днів тому

      Saints row 4 is just a saints row 3 dlc ...

  • @faiyazhusain5912
    @faiyazhusain5912 17 днів тому +135

    Saints Row wasn't GTA's only rival...
    Driver be like: Am I a JOKE to you???

    • @omarrodrigomanzanares7474
      @omarrodrigomanzanares7474 17 днів тому +33

      Hate to be that guy, since Driver 2 was my introduction in the sandbox genre and I loved it, but... Yeah, Rockstar did considered Driver kind of a joke. There were jabs towards the franchise in Vice City and San Andreas.

    • @johnboi44
      @johnboi44 16 днів тому

      Tanner sucks ass

    • @nobbyfirefly57
      @nobbyfirefly57 16 днів тому +8

      It's a shame you can't play Driver San Francisco legally anymore. The concept of the body powers was pretty cool.

    • @yeaaahboii2527
      @yeaaahboii2527 15 днів тому +13

      I think Mafia is more of a serious rival than Driver

    • @faiyazhusain5912
      @faiyazhusain5912 15 днів тому +2

      @@yeaaahboii2527 won't consider that as a rival as Take Two owns both companies that made GTA and Mafia.

  • @sushm_7767
    @sushm_7767 17 днів тому +108

    Koch media is a crazy name..

    • @tytheyoutubeguy8415
      @tytheyoutubeguy8415 17 днів тому

      Haha cause it sounds like cock. Hahaha. 😝

    • @ChrisAegrim
      @ChrisAegrim 17 днів тому +19

      He just pronounces it wrong. It's CH at the end, noch CK. I mean fair enough that he did it wrong, I can't think of an example in the english language for how to pronounce it either, but it's not even close to cock like he said it

    • @sushm_7767
      @sushm_7767 17 днів тому +7

      @@ChrisAegrim nah i think i like the CK pronunciation better that shit funny

    • @Stylebender1989
      @Stylebender1989 15 днів тому +4

      Dicc media

    • @haku_haku_haku
      @haku_haku_haku  15 днів тому +6

      They actually had to change their name because people kept saying it wrong lmao:
      www.pcgamer.com/koch-media-got-so-sick-of-the-jokes-its-changed-its-name/
      www.ign.com/articles/publisher-koch-media-changes-name-plaion (less memey article)

  • @TexanElevators
    @TexanElevators 4 дні тому +3

    True story, I dated a guy whose college professor worked on SR 3 and 4. He said that he used to talk about how much of a mess the development was and how it is a masterclass in how NOT to produce a commercially successful product.

  • @gibbongood3281
    @gibbongood3281 7 днів тому +3

    I still vividly remember getting canonized at church so that i could later on swagger along with a pimp cane and four fine dames by my side

  • @CarTunedNetwork
    @CarTunedNetwork 15 днів тому +18

    What made saints row 2 even more better was GTA4 you couldn't do alot of stuff that you could do in San Andreas like buying multiple houses and apartments, customizing cars, and limited our clothes customization etc. RIP Saints row

  • @RKM-FLASH
    @RKM-FLASH 14 днів тому +31

    "The Slow Death of GTA's Only Rival"
    *Watch Dogs has entered the chat

    • @nicholasclermont7390
      @nicholasclermont7390 14 днів тому +7

      Watch dogs first and second was perfect, but again giant game company forgot to listend to the consumer so they decide what best for the fans...... LOOK ANOTHER AC or FC.....

  • @kilarymz4life772
    @kilarymz4life772 17 днів тому +89

    My theory is rockstar paid off volition to sabotage saints row.

    • @Killakay47
      @Killakay47 17 днів тому +20

      Why tf would they even bother? Not defending or glazing rockstar but had the new saints row been good their game ain’t going anywhere near gta 6 level hype people are buying that more sounds pointless

    • @Whereareyoujojo
      @Whereareyoujojo 17 днів тому +14

      Nah man the game was just bad, Rockstar had nothing to do with it. Stop defending SR

    • @Leon_SKennnedy
      @Leon_SKennnedy 17 днів тому +20

      Nut job conspiracy, even if the SR reboot was good it would never be up to quality with GTA

    • @kilarymz4life772
      @kilarymz4life772 17 днів тому +3

      @@Killakay47 think about it. They have no competition and would prefer to keep it that way.

    • @chriscollins550
      @chriscollins550 17 днів тому +9

      Gta was out selling SR by a lot more, SR wasn't really GTA competition. Rock star didn't need to pay off anyone, SR was just not good enough and then destroyed themselves.

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight 12 днів тому +8

    Let's hope Saints Row can be resurrected one day. Saints Rows 1~2 are so great. Then 3~4 are also so much fun, especially with friends 😭😭

    • @vallarfaxgaming
      @vallarfaxgaming 7 днів тому

      After the failure that was the reboot it isn't happening
      It's pretty well all but confirmed that saints row as an IP is dead
      Saints row 3, 4 and the reboot just weren't true to what saints row should have been about and there's no real major desire for it anymore

  • @inedibledorito
    @inedibledorito День тому +2

    Insane how this video is over 1mil views for an 6k subscribed channel. Bravo! Well done!

  • @Jo-Wilbe-Dina
    @Jo-Wilbe-Dina 17 днів тому +34

    Fun Fact: That guy on the right (3:39) is Jon Gravelli

    • @anaslossantos
      @anaslossantos 17 днів тому +3

      Isn't that faustin?

    • @Rachit8070-zv3of
      @Rachit8070-zv3of 17 днів тому +7

      @@anaslossantos No first Poster is Mikhail Faustin and Second poster is Jon Gravelli at 3:40

  • @newboyke200
    @newboyke200 16 днів тому +8

    Finally someone who know the DIFFERENCE between a rival ( competitor) and an copy cat clone 😭

  • @TripleTen
    @TripleTen 17 днів тому +16

    7:06 I remember that scene, I was 13 at the time, I still remember the dread I felt after it.

    • @haku_haku_haku
      @haku_haku_haku  17 днів тому +2

      I felt the same man I remember I always wore a purple beanie in his memory lol. I think the Devs said that they regretted putting it in the game which is crazy to me because it builds up the antagonists and the player's desire for revenge which is really important to keep you invested.

  • @ChrisSealy1997
    @ChrisSealy1997 5 днів тому +2

    Fun fact sr1 was originally going to be released on the ps3 in 2007 and it was fully complete but volition scrapped it in order to focus on developing sr2 for the console

  • @Minycart
    @Minycart 13 днів тому +4

    The guy you "didn't even see in the game" was Mikhail Faustin.

  • @TPJH850
    @TPJH850 17 днів тому +60

    3:38 I think that's meant to be Mikhail Faustin and the one after that is Jon Gravelli.

    • @tomaprd
      @tomaprd 16 днів тому

      Yeah

    • @Tholi
      @Tholi 16 днів тому +1

      Was about to type this.

    • @HeySlickThatsMe
      @HeySlickThatsMe 15 днів тому

      That's correct

    • @haku_haku_haku
      @haku_haku_haku  15 днів тому

      Yeah it's definitely them. My point was rather than Roman, Dimitri or someone really recognisable they put random side characters in the wrong outfits just to mess with people trying to buy the game lol

    • @bueniwalker94
      @bueniwalker94 15 днів тому +1

      ​@@haku_haku_hakuthey all were already present in loading screens

  • @yourwannaberockstar
    @yourwannaberockstar 17 днів тому +23

    I loved Saints Row because how gritty, how raw it was. As players, we may harbor for the characters in the game, but we also get to see their horrible deaths because of the lifestyle they’ve chosen to live. Carlos’ death still haunts me to this day.
    Edit: And as a player who enjoyed both of the franchises (although I only played SR2 and SR3), I have to admit this one thing. These games are only called “GTA Clone” due to the “open world do whatever you want” type of aspect. SR franchise only focused on Playa while GTA has showcased many other periods with different characters (sometimes), such as the dark era of 90’s, the colorful era of 80’s and the golden age of hiphop and one of the worst periods of the human life, crack c*caine epidemic.

  • @SupaVillanDaKidd
    @SupaVillanDaKidd 17 днів тому +9

    True crime should make a comeback fr

  • @StryderK
    @StryderK 8 днів тому +4

    I actually liked SR 2 BETTER than GTA IV! I still messes around that game time to time. Sad to see the entire series is now nothing more than a memory.

  • @deansheppard1104
    @deansheppard1104 9 днів тому +4

    13:32 the last thing I want in a video game about crime is to play has a university student that has to pay student loans.
    Saints row 2 had wacky side activities and was fun but the atmosphere was nailed and with good story , believable characters that actually feel like they are part of a criminal organization.

  • @tonytang4668
    @tonytang4668 17 днів тому +15

    This channel is criminally under-subbed. See you when you're at 100k subs mate. Great stuff.

  • @jakeneal7355
    @jakeneal7355 14 днів тому +27

    0:54 I love seetsrewtew

  • @South_park_boy
    @South_park_boy 17 днів тому +8

    Saints Row 2 is exactly like a free mode gameplay of GTA 4

  • @kyleboorer5794
    @kyleboorer5794 6 днів тому +2

    Man.... Saints Row 2 was my favourite story for a game like these... that one mission, the one where they drag Carlos around chained to the back of the car... man that still hurts my heart

  • @dqdq4083
    @dqdq4083 13 днів тому +3

    Rockstar kept the same formula
    Volition tried too hard to appeal to the widest base possible

  • @DisputeAmore
    @DisputeAmore 16 днів тому +11

    I was a huge fan of the first and second installment. SR1 is one of my favorite and most memorable games of all time. (Who remembers protect the pimp?) It's incredibly sad to see what happened to the series.

  • @Cuunke
    @Cuunke 15 днів тому +7

    if they didn't let "GTA Clone" get to their head we would've been on the good timeline, I never hear "it's a COD Clone" with a random fps (unless it literally is)

  • @LilXume
    @LilXume 17 днів тому +46

    Saints Row went to shit after Gat out of Hell

    • @davisfromthehills7521
      @davisfromthehills7521 17 днів тому +41

      you mean after SR3

    • @commanderblack5045
      @commanderblack5045 17 днів тому +16

      ​@@davisfromthehills7521yeah, SR4 was for Real the down fall, i can understand that some people don't like SR3 because we are more a Organisation than a gang but everything after that was just bad except the never finished game SR money shot since it actually was interesting

    • @LilXume
      @LilXume 17 днів тому +10

      @@commanderblack5045 I fw the 4th one. I like the super powers and shit lol

    • @commanderblack5045
      @commanderblack5045 17 днів тому +10

      @@LilXume actually in my opinion do i think that Saints Row 4 is a fun game but isn't a good Saints Row game

    • @coments101
      @coments101 17 днів тому +18

      ​@@davisfromthehills7521some would argue that SR2 was the last good one.

  • @nxel.9998
    @nxel.9998 10 днів тому +1

    Great vid man, hope you reach more subs because this is better than some YT channels with 100k+ vids. Keep it up 🤙

  • @Awptionss
    @Awptionss 12 днів тому +12

    The new GTA trailer looks exactly like the most recent saints row, its so over for gaming.

  • @BoredBoredman
    @BoredBoredman 14 днів тому +8

    I like gta 4 more than gta 5. GTA 5 Story is meh. I replay gta 4 and san andreas more than 5. GTA 5 story is forgetable

    • @bretwojarski5842
      @bretwojarski5842 12 днів тому +1

      Yeah GTA 4 was better than GTA 5 and I think Saint Row 1 & 2 were the best ones went down hill after that. But Red Dead 2 the story is amazing but online is shit and I hope GTA 6 is gonna have a good story!

  • @DouBBy-The-Great
    @DouBBy-The-Great 17 днів тому +18

    The guy on 3:38 is Faustin

    • @CursedMohawk
      @CursedMohawk 13 днів тому

      Came to say the exact same thing nice eyes

    • @KeaWealthy
      @KeaWealthy 5 днів тому

      When does he appear? like what mission ?

    • @DouBBy-The-Great
      @DouBBy-The-Great 5 днів тому +1

      @@KeaWealthy after vlad is killed, Nico and Roman are kidnapped, then you meet Dimitri and Faustin

    • @CursedMohawk
      @CursedMohawk 4 дні тому

      @@KeaWealthy he’s literally the Russian Mob guy you run into right after Vlad Demitri was his right hand man till he had you kill him

    • @akicarpecinkoawx5824
      @akicarpecinkoawx5824 2 дні тому +1

      And the second one is mafia boss in hospital, the G guy

  • @chibha96
    @chibha96 16 днів тому +12

    I've played both Saints Row 3 and GTA 4. I feel GTA 4 is more serious and more resource intensive. Sains Row 3 runs well on my Intel HD Graphics which is present on my Thinkpad Laptop and Thinkcentre Mini PC. For GTA 4, I play the game on a Dell Precision Workstation with Nvidia GTX GPU. The driving experience in GTA 4 is more realistic in contrast to Saints Row 3.

  • @plymouthrdrell
    @plymouthrdrell 4 дні тому +2

    Jonny almost dying still hurts till this day

  • @GameGlobalOfficial
    @GameGlobalOfficial 9 днів тому +4

    Saints Row 2 was a stand alone legendary game for me. It was the trailer you briefly show at 1:44 that convinced me to buy Saints Row 2 all those years ago when it was a new game.
    I was very excited for Saints Row 3 when it was announced, and it had some pretty cool stuff about it. But I hated the change of scenery and the lack of Gat. Shaundi just got super hot, and things got even sweeter. But it lacked the crazy substance and beautiful storyline that Saints Row 2 had. The gangs of Saints Row 3 were kinda cringe, and couldn't be taken seriously. Compare that to Mr Sunshine, Jyunichi, Kazuo, Shogo, The General and Maero.
    It was through Saints Row 2 that I discovered Panic! At The Disco, My Chemical Romance, Paramore, Deftones and so many other awesome songs and bands. The zombies in the abandoned underground place. The UFOs. The easter eggs. The unique safehouses and customization of them. It was the closest thing to perfect. I can't even think of anything bad about it.
    But disappointment hit very fast when Saints Row 3 got to the second mission. Things were being TAKEN AWAY, not worked towards.

  • @muki347
    @muki347 16 днів тому +5

    5:24 Teachers and parents do

  • @lucaixen
    @lucaixen 13 днів тому +15

    Personally, I loved Saint's Row IV, but it's just a huge mess on 3rd generation consoles like the PS3. The superpowers also took away the fun part about vehicles: their functionality and customization. There was really no point in driving vehicles unless you're platinum trophy grinding like I was because you could just outrun the cars anyway.

    • @natel42069
      @natel42069 7 днів тому

      Ya i love saints row IV but ya vehicles are kinda pointless except in the ones you can cause "mayhem" in

  • @mohamedkoubaa8337
    @mohamedkoubaa8337 11 днів тому +5

    The guys you said are not even in the game are Mikhail Faustin and Jon Gravelli. Also I'm just here to say GTA 4 is goated.

  • @Bouzsi
    @Bouzsi 9 днів тому +1

    I once sat in a Costco food court next to a Volition dev who worked on Saints Row (the 2022 one), and we organically struck up a convo "where are you from? Me? Here in [wouldn't be hard to figure out the town but I'm not volunteering it]! What do you do?", etc.
    I told him how great some of the games were and how cool I thought it was that he has that opportunity and asked him what kind of work he did on this specific Saints Row game (because i didn't want to offend him by asking him the next question if i didn't need to...) and he said "I'm the guy who does the menu and credits UI's."
    I said "ok, so none of the decisions made about the rest of the game, right?"
    He said "noooo. Nope, nope. So it's not my fault it's so bad! The UI looks goooOOOoood!" and we laughed and laughed and laughed. It wasn't extremely uncomfortable at all.

  • @fs_chris4692
    @fs_chris4692 11 днів тому +6

    2:18 goated @flippy mentioned my goat fr

  • @mattmmilli8287
    @mattmmilli8287 8 днів тому +3

    Was always the budget GTA, had some neat ideas though

  • @Rizzman655
    @Rizzman655 16 днів тому +17

    You know you're company is cooked when you're owner is called "Koch Media"😭🙏💀💀

  • @fugofugo5135
    @fugofugo5135 13 днів тому +2

    EVERYONE was GTA's RIVAL, in the times of GTA 4 and 5 EVERYONE was making open world car stealing shooting game.
    But NOONE went the extra mile to make them as good as GTA.

  • @emperortrevornorton3119
    @emperortrevornorton3119 17 днів тому +11

    If they were to kept more feeling like a Midwest Looney Tunes style of GTA instead going to science fiction then to college kids that can't shut up about college loan debt

    • @basidan4488
      @basidan4488 14 днів тому +2

      the foreshadowing of saints row 2 gang peds mentioning they’re in the gang to pay for college lool

    • @blackkennedy3966
      @blackkennedy3966 12 днів тому

      Fr San Andreas was the whackiest gta title and it’s a massive classic even today. There’s a market for whacky cartoony gta type games.

  • @skettinbutter3635
    @skettinbutter3635 17 днів тому +12

    Saints row 2 was light year's ahead of gta 4 in terms of customization and side activities.

  • @kamuisensei9045
    @kamuisensei9045 13 днів тому +3

    11:40 don't let this guy fool you it was that bad me and my friends wanted that game bad I saw the writing on the wall realized it was going to be trash but my friend doesn't pay attention to trailers and he left it in his cart by mistake and bought it with another game played it and couldn't even get past the tutorial I sat there watching through the share screen the game constantly crashed literally could not get passed the section where you quit being a part of that paramilitary job the shooting was wonky and you could stand writing from the hostile NPCs in they would not attack you all and if they fixed any of that but it was horrible

  • @Ramneek_Singh09
    @Ramneek_Singh09 3 дні тому +1

    Saints Row was no competition to GTA 4, GTA 4 was GOATED

  • @Arvid2022
    @Arvid2022 8 днів тому +1

    Never heard of anyone who didn’t like GTA IV’s serious and dark theme. It is what made that game so great.

  • @giuseppemaggio5894
    @giuseppemaggio5894 17 днів тому +9

    GTA never really had a rival. From VC onwoards it became and stayed way bigger than any other game that could be compared to it in terms of vibe, style and diversity.

  • @pixelqiwi
    @pixelqiwi 16 днів тому +11

    i remember the day i pre-ordered saints row IV, only to launch it and realise that it's just a wacky game that was supposed to be a dlc for III...
    ironically, there are quite a lot of improvements in IV, like better customisation options in Rim Jobs, just that you wouldn't know about them because you have super powers and stuff, what a wreck

    • @harrisonfrogshire5181
      @harrisonfrogshire5181 16 днів тому +2

      Jim Robs

    • @seaghann
      @seaghann 16 днів тому +1

      for real they wasted budget for more customization on vehicles that had no purpose to us

  • @NicoDouglas
    @NicoDouglas 4 дні тому

    These videos about Saints Row always break my heart

  • @DerSingh0329
    @DerSingh0329 3 дні тому

    Wow, I thought this channel had like 600k subs or a million or so, but to my surprise as I thought of subscribing after watching the video…. It’s ONLY FREAKING 6K !? Well…. I subscribed.

  • @KopperRook
    @KopperRook 7 днів тому +4

    I was a bartender in Champaign in the early 2000s. I was generally stuck working dead Monday nights along with a couple of waitresses. On occasion the Volition crew would come in and drop a few grand on the company credit card. I'd make 300 bucks plus in tips that night - unheard of on a Monday. And the rest of the bartenders were a bit peeved that I was making that much on what everyone knew was a garbage shift.

  • @briceavision
    @briceavision 12 днів тому +3

    You forgot about Gat out of hell

  • @phil_matic
    @phil_matic 7 днів тому +5

    To call Saints Row was a rival of GTA would imply that it was anywhere as good. The only Saints Row that was even remotely good was 2.

  • @kingz7151
    @kingz7151 7 днів тому +1

    Fantastic video, I've played all the games except for the reboot and there really was a big divide between the first two games and The Third, I actually enjoyed the games up until Gat out of Hell quite a lot but the way the story went after SR2 always left a lot to be desired. I would've played the reboot but after seeing the trailer I knew it would be terrible. Regarding story and characters, they could never live up to SR2.

  • @rikrdo141
    @rikrdo141 8 днів тому +1

    Saints row 2 is so iconic to me that each time someone mentions the game, I always remember the scene with gat at the cemetery saying " get up ", it is so fucking cool.
    Of everything i have played during these years nothing has come close to it, its just that good for me.

  • @switchclawblackvein
    @switchclawblackvein 17 днів тому +12

    the Mafia franchise still has the potential to rival GTA games especially with Mafia 4 or any future Mafia games. Too bad the separate story+freeroam and lackluster open world takes away most of the "good" things that people want in an open world game that is similar to GTA. But seeing the franchise's potential, I still have hope that one day they'll gather up enough resources (budget + talent) to one day make as good of an open world experience as any gta games. (hope being the keyword here.)

    • @danielsmokesmids
      @danielsmokesmids 17 днів тому +14

      mafia is a linear story-based game first, open world second. always has been. making it more like gta would be missing the point

    • @MrKyleb1997
      @MrKyleb1997 17 днів тому

      Very true ,Great points

    • @manukau5271
      @manukau5271 17 днів тому +16

      Take-Two owns Mafia, there’s no rivalry

    • @MerlautJones
      @MerlautJones 17 днів тому +12

      @@manukau5271 Exactly, Mafia is like GTA's cousin Vinny. Not a competitor.

    • @Freesyde
      @Freesyde 16 днів тому

      I would've liked if Mafia 2 had side activities. I wouldn't care as much now. Mafia went off the rails after Vávra's departure.

  • @deiselnoe1
    @deiselnoe1 16 днів тому +5

    Oh I remember volition they made my fav franchise.... Red faction, they flopped the sequel but the rest were good games

  • @SandevistanUser
    @SandevistanUser 8 днів тому +3

    SR3 was really the beginning of the end for the series, sure it was fun but it had very little to do with the previous titles other than name alone. The characters were completely different, the boss's personality was so generic and lifeless. SR2 really was the peak it the series

  • @doclouis4236
    @doclouis4236 12 днів тому +2

    And the biggest culprit of this downfall not only the mismanagement at Volition but primarily with Deep Silver and them wanting to sanitize the series.

  • @tryapopop6571
    @tryapopop6571 2 дні тому

    Volition closed on my birthday which imo for a birthday was the coolest gift ever

  • @Chr.Monika6469
    @Chr.Monika6469 16 днів тому +7

    Saints Row wasn't GTA only rival, you forgot the Driver series

    • @johnboi44
      @johnboi44 16 днів тому

      Tanner sucks ass 😂

  • @Puffypoo574
    @Puffypoo574 16 днів тому +7

    To be honest I was never that into the Saints Row games. I only played SR2 and I think it’s gonna stay that way lol.

  • @Christian_gam3r
    @Christian_gam3r 17 днів тому +6

    A truth gta fans gotta accept:had volition listened to their fans they could have surpassed rockstar at least a little bit

    • @senpaigoku1496
      @senpaigoku1496 17 днів тому +2

      No they won't😂 Saints row was always a knock off franchise of GTA

    • @Kaledrone
      @Kaledrone 17 днів тому +2

      No they wouldn't, keep believing what you want to though

    • @Christian_gam3r
      @Christian_gam3r 16 днів тому +1

      @@senpaigoku1496 it was but look at prime saints row and gta now,had volition kept saints row the same it would have been much better than gta

    • @AkiRalcolf
      @AkiRalcolf 14 днів тому

      ​@@senpaigoku1496Fuck GTA. I'm done with it's Fans and the "Fanbase" fuckery

    • @bretwojarski5842
      @bretwojarski5842 12 днів тому

      @@senpaigoku1496 I still had more fun playing Saint Row 2 then any GTA game and I love San Andreas when I was younger and my fav GTA is GTA 4 had a lot of fun on that game too but still prefer Saints Row 2. You say it’s a knock off but you customise your character and your gang and ring Zombie Carlos and got more respect if you wore purple clothes just little things like that is what separates it from GTA you numpty

  • @davidnelson.6037
    @davidnelson.6037 12 днів тому +2

    I’ve recently played through GTA again as a grown man and them Niko jokes in the beginning were pure gold have me dying in my living room🤣🤣🤣🔥

  • @coenisgreat
    @coenisgreat 12 днів тому +1

    Having never played the SR3 remastered version as I was told it was terrible, seeing all the less stylised characters in the remastered footage you showed really threw me off, lol.

  • @ezequiellopez8518
    @ezequiellopez8518 12 днів тому +9

    Gta 6 is headed the same direction woke garbage with a dei protagonist
    Btw 2008 was the greatest year for video games ever it’s not even close!!!!!!!!!!
    Gta 4
    Saints row 2
    fallout 3
    left 4 dead
    call of duty waw
    Super smash bros brawl
    Mario kart wii
    Fable 2
    I could keep going all day

    • @vallarfaxgaming
      @vallarfaxgaming 7 днів тому +1

      "Dei protagonist"
      How in the hell is Lucia a dei protagonist when she's a light skinned woman with a heterosexual partner?
      Playing as a woman isn't DEI, it becomes DEI when the main characteristics of said playable characteristics are purely about gender, sexuality etc
      You're just mad because despite the potential of Jason and Lucia, you don't like the idea of playing as a woman who isn't even within the definition of DEI

  • @masterdisciple6542
    @masterdisciple6542 8 днів тому +4

    Enough time has passed to where people are looking at GTA 4 with rose colored glasses and ignoring why it had the reception it had in the first place. In the quest for "realism" rockstar dialed back the fun factor. The main story missions, with very few exceptions, were flat out boring.
    Saints Row 2 got attention at the time because it was delivering what alot of people wanted from GTA that was simply absent in 4.

  • @sebastianhoward3304
    @sebastianhoward3304 12 днів тому +4

    6:00 just like assassin's creed 2

  • @BrotherSims
    @BrotherSims 13 днів тому +2

    Might be unpopular but I honestly would have embraced the “GTA clone” moniker if I were the developers and used it to challenge gameplay aspects as well as features included in gta. The bones were there in SR2, all they had to do was polish up the game and add some of the features that SR3 introduced. They tried so hard to distinguish themselves that they ended up killing the franchise.

  • @LeechyPlayStation
    @LeechyPlayStation 9 днів тому

    Incredible video man congrats on the deserved views! 👏🏻

  • @402verse
    @402verse 17 днів тому +8

    Hot take but I actually enjoyed playing saints row 2022 mainly the open world the customization the gameplay but the story and the new characters suck that’s one thing I hate about but everything else I enjoyed
    Even though I like saints row 2 way more than 2022 game

    • @redned4802
      @redned4802 17 днів тому +5

      I absolutely agree. I really enjoyed the customization & map of 2022. In my head canon the story doesn’t exist for my characters & just pretend it’s the saints row 2 playa expanding in A new city.

  • @theviperman1947
    @theviperman1947 13 днів тому +6

    They should not have gone woke. The superhero thing was bad. But the woke trash was the nail in the coffin.

    • @IfYUKnowww
      @IfYUKnowww 13 днів тому +1

      I wouldn't say being woke was actually the issue here otherwise we wouldn't have seen Dragon, Greedfall, Elden Ring, BG and Mass Effect succeed.
      Only thing remotely woke I remember is that pride flag in that apartment of theirs before they moved to the church