THE MOST CRAZY PRO MATCH $50,000 FINALS | HMBLE vs ZETA

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  • @Dixxon554
    @Dixxon554 5 місяців тому +923

    the fact that hmble defended the hotzone when zeta was on 97% and they were at around 38% is crazy

    • @LEONLOVESMUSIC
      @LEONLOVESMUSIC 5 місяців тому +6

      Ye

    • @JasonHamstred
      @JasonHamstred 5 місяців тому +12

      Castors curse

    • @mohammed-nb6cl
      @mohammed-nb6cl 5 місяців тому +22

      It s the piper problem who supredout

    • @אריאל-י6ע
      @אריאל-י6ע 5 місяців тому +5

      My honest reaction to this was crazy

    • @enjae2762
      @enjae2762 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@mohammed-nb6cl
      I said this exact thing in my group chat. Piper was kinda dumb for that

  • @ADudeNamedCaleb
    @ADudeNamedCaleb 5 місяців тому +390

    IMAGINE PICKING ASH AGAINST A SHELLY AND CHARLIE 😭😭 WHAT WAS LUKII COOKING UP

    • @bmb4024
      @bmb4024 5 місяців тому +38

      IM AN ASH MAIN AND IM EMBARRASSED😭😭😭😭

    • @scxm8825
      @scxm8825 5 місяців тому +71

      They completely sold with that ash pick ong

    • @HYDR0C0D0NE
      @HYDR0C0D0NE 5 місяців тому

      @@scxm8825Facts bruh SMH

    • @Brawlbooster
      @Brawlbooster 5 місяців тому

      You are saying this with lou pfp

    • @himonthebibi
      @himonthebibi 5 місяців тому

      walter white's in town?

  • @Grim_Reaper.
    @Grim_Reaper. 5 місяців тому +106

    HMBLE was great, especially their comeback in Hot Zone with 97%: it was SO epic.
    But… what was that Ash pick in BrawlBall?! I believe that Symantec is really good on him, but not against Shelly, Buster and Charlie.
    I’m not pro so maybe my opinion is cringe but in my sight, it literally was throwing.

    • @travisbrown9936
      @travisbrown9936 5 місяців тому +1

      Same thing with CR choosing squeak

    • @manojbagad5293
      @manojbagad5293 5 місяців тому

      Boss was cooking with colt . In both semis and finals he was the best player in heist

    • @Grim_Reaper.
      @Grim_Reaper. 5 місяців тому +6

      @@manojbagad5293 , I agree but I’m talking ‘bout BrawlBall. It’s not bad play from him or something’ , he just couldn’t do anything ‘cause of this awful Ash pick.

    • @saltybread7297
      @saltybread7297 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Grim_Reaper. yea don't know what he was cooking

    • @saltybread7297
      @saltybread7297 5 місяців тому

      @@manojbagad5293 stop waffling

  • @Unamed-xl4re
    @Unamed-xl4re 5 місяців тому +242

    [ Insert something about spen oiling up here ]

  • @TT_VyTy
    @TT_VyTy 5 місяців тому +80

    The CR vs NAVI reverse-sweep game was also absolutely insane

    • @blueacebrawlstars4299
      @blueacebrawlstars4299 5 місяців тому +22

      Cr lagged they were afk many times it’s unfair

    • @16grammisoloperte67
      @16grammisoloperte67 5 місяців тому

      ​@@blueacebrawlstars4299if u go in an hotel for playing an ONLINE tournament u have to make sure that your wifi is good enough...this is definitely not unfair

    • @lizardman1236
      @lizardman1236 5 місяців тому +5

      Yea especially on gem grap cr lagged

    • @teohyonghe5941
      @teohyonghe5941 5 місяців тому +1

      CR just lagging all the time,only tensai didn't lag

    • @jerryfailedtoload
      @jerryfailedtoload 5 місяців тому +11

      They played with the hotel wifi 💀

  • @Mattyserna
    @Mattyserna 5 місяців тому +25

    i am a Zeta supporter and seeing my guys to win it all like this, winning at the last secondo with oceanus, then playing really good with hmbl taking revenge for the march bsc, i was super happy because they finally came back and they didn't give up

  • @eduardpeeterlemming
    @eduardpeeterlemming 5 місяців тому +55

    Didnt expect a pro match so soon after the update

  • @lorrisnzouakeu5823
    @lorrisnzouakeu5823 5 місяців тому +137

    I am proud to say that I was 100% with my predictions for EMEA this month :D

    • @user_1O7
      @user_1O7 5 місяців тому +9

      I missed Sk vs Humble and Zeta vs Humble. Zeta looked a bit out of form vs Oceanus so I thought humble had it but I was wrong.
      Really close set overall except for the last map(brawl ball)

    • @Jmtz297
      @Jmtz297 5 місяців тому

      me too

    • @Pinku_Pawlette01
      @Pinku_Pawlette01 5 місяців тому

      I was 100% on apac, 4/7 on emea

    • @suleymanibra2908
      @suleymanibra2908 5 місяців тому +1

      Really? U picked hmble over sk??

    • @TheGoldenEgg69
      @TheGoldenEgg69 5 місяців тому

      I was 6/7 on apac and again 6/7 on emea​@@Pinku_Pawlette01

  • @smallbrain3567
    @smallbrain3567 5 місяців тому +26

    Spen promise us that U won't pull a cheif pat and leave us after U get married ofc U should take a break but don't leave for like two years with no explanation

    • @tjrillaz
      @tjrillaz 5 місяців тому

      Fr

    • @mazin5584
      @mazin5584 5 місяців тому +1

      He kinda doesn’t have a choice, bro was a pro player for a living and now he’s a youtubeur, what can he even do if he stops ytb

  • @ThePrimeYeeter
    @ThePrimeYeeter 5 місяців тому +118

    Spen with oil will solo both of these teams, let's be real here

  • @dontietienni9789
    @dontietienni9789 5 місяців тому +162

    Nah I'd win again 🤫🧏🏾‍♂️🗿

    • @叵
      @叵 5 місяців тому +27

      erm what the sigma

    • @zah_old_acc
      @zah_old_acc 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@叵 bro, erm what the sigma

    • @TheGoldenEgg69
      @TheGoldenEgg69 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@zah_old_accaint no way bro what the sigma

    • @DarkGamer-sx7gp
      @DarkGamer-sx7gp 5 місяців тому +1

      Stop guys this is getting out of hand

    • @TheGoldenEgg69
      @TheGoldenEgg69 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DarkGamer-sx7gp what the sigma are you talking about

  • @Megalore_XD0066
    @Megalore_XD0066 5 місяців тому +8

    The ash pick from the humble team at the end was the worse pick they did in all their carrier

  • @xaius4348
    @xaius4348 5 місяців тому +2

    Soloque ranked, even in masters, is just so astronomically different than pro-play.
    Maybe if the game added more communication in brawler select and in game match for stuff like calling lanes, we could see more organized play in soloqueue, and that might bring more people into pro-play and to spectate.

  • @dimitarsarvivel8194
    @dimitarsarvivel8194 5 місяців тому +23

    Spen you were right Byron is back in the maleta at least in the APACK region

    • @Qian.Ye.
      @Qian.Ye. 5 місяців тому +7

      what the hell is the maleta

    • @coolraygaming
      @coolraygaming 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Qian.Ye.meta * 😂

    • @Qian.Ye.
      @Qian.Ye. 5 місяців тому +3

      @@coolraygaming i know lol just teasing him

  • @zacharyalford8185
    @zacharyalford8185 5 місяців тому +21

    HMBLE vs SK was an amazing set, Zeta are still so strong in this year

  • @TT_VyTy
    @TT_VyTy 5 місяців тому +12

    Hey spen, what do you think about a series where u summarize the monthly finals or the world finals as a more long term goal because not everyone has the time the watch the full event
    If you want u could even to this on the second channel
    Everyone who would also like such a thing
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  • @Wasted117.
    @Wasted117. 5 місяців тому +3

    Symantec just does soo well on every team he joins. Lukii played incredible and boss did his job

    • @soreee41
      @soreee41 5 місяців тому

      Yeah I almost voted him for the mvp but went with nowy last second

    • @Wasted117.
      @Wasted117. 5 місяців тому

      @@soreee41 symantec is more than just a player. idk how but he just is the leadership and the rock that teams lack. it mainly just cause of how well he knows not only how to draft, but how to play drafts and that confidence is very very helpful(tho i am surprised by the ash last set. rico was open and maybe the better pick) and when he left jeton and sky you could see immediately how they really felt his departure. what he does for teams is what ttm is lacking right now. arguably skill wise ttm is better than hmble but with no person to take the wheel they are playing not bad but without coordination. ttm had that last year and the year before with joker and it seems for ttm ikaoss has to step up. but ofc even tho ikaoss like lenain is easily top 3 in eu it seems he is rn in the position that lenain was in (i think it was last year) with jeton and sky where they need him to step up.
      sorry for the ramble

  • @GSB_GAMING
    @GSB_GAMING 4 місяці тому +1

    Only started playing 2 months ago and you’ve been amazing help to my enjoyment thank you spen

  • @napalmbhoji
    @napalmbhoji 5 місяців тому +4

    HOW DID HUMBLE COME BACK FROM 18%-92% ON THE SECOND HOT ZONE GAME against ZETA💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @tsunamilami2515
    @tsunamilami2515 5 місяців тому +1

    Ur commentary was very chill but also insightful way to be a great commentator😄😄😄

  • @lmr9693
    @lmr9693 5 місяців тому +14

    spen PLEASE PLAY ESPORTS AGAIN AND TRY TO WIN

    • @nayreen17
      @nayreen17 5 місяців тому +1

      He plays for Tribe

  • @Viridian02
    @Viridian02 5 місяців тому +1

    for a HMB lastpick in dueling beetles, would squeak have worked? i feel like its a super good control pick and even with the piper and griff wallbreaks he would have been able to lock griff and pam up quite a bit

  • @notmoronic2993
    @notmoronic2993 5 місяців тому +6

    Spen, please move your facecam so I can see the ban, or oil up

  • @Just.SomeGuYontheweb
    @Just.SomeGuYontheweb 5 місяців тому +2

    It's great that you're back on Tribe

  • @aminamirihaddadene771
    @aminamirihaddadene771 5 місяців тому

    Happy you joined Tribe rooting for you this year🎉🎉🎉🎉 hope you win

  • @aldenstromberg7273
    @aldenstromberg7273 5 місяців тому +1

    now im no pro in fact ive never even gotten a brawler above 1k but i notice that both times humble lost the draft hard, it was because they tried too hard to counter zetas first pick
    maybe it wouldve been better to focus on making their own synergy instead of just plainly countering twice
    so like stu to counter shelly and then a wallbreaker so they can really make sure that the bush shenanigans just arent happening
    maybe even double down with a second wallbreaker
    personally i wouldve gone griff second pick since his business resiliance is soooo strong against brawlers that do low ranged damage
    so the griff walks up at the beginning to break the bushes and the stu just holds that side since nobody can walk up without feeding super

    • @masterspork3735
      @masterspork3735 5 місяців тому

      First thing i wanna say, shut up about not having rank 30, if i dont care no one should care.
      I think this is a really good anaylsis, i am confused on where their first bad game of draft was, do you mean the hot zone match? I think you are spot on, but for the hot zone i guess i did imagine it would go better than expected, since its wall break against two snipers, but the emz is the antithesis to emz in a way, even griff breaks her walls. That left her open, while pam, griff, and piper have really strong ranged capabilities

  • @upsidedown6096
    @upsidedown6096 5 місяців тому +6

    watched this one live. unfortunately I never saw spen oil up.

    • @LEONLOVESMUSIC
      @LEONLOVESMUSIC 5 місяців тому

      He did

    • @EnzoFerrari099
      @EnzoFerrari099 5 місяців тому

      he did it last week and he deleted the vid after like 10 mins

  • @stephenhan9680
    @stephenhan9680 5 місяців тому

    Whoa... Zeta drafts and plays were just *_Chef Kiss_* absolutely cooked and served Humble on a plate. That's a HQ esport dish.

  • @zander.latimer
    @zander.latimer 5 місяців тому

    Yo I’m the one that posted the Brock tech. Glad the word is being spread.

  • @idkwillneedtheusername
    @idkwillneedtheusername 5 місяців тому +4

    habibi wake up ❤ daddy spen has uploaded a new banger

  • @DivineBurger6510
    @DivineBurger6510 5 місяців тому

    25:05 The background music when last year champions are about to lose💀😂

  • @ilno
    @ilno 5 місяців тому +1

    Did I miss a patch on Sandy and Max? Did they got nerved and no pros ban and pick them?

  • @tomatensaf
    @tomatensaf 5 місяців тому +3

    We didn't got the Prawn™ in this Monthly Final😢

    • @alexcoolbeans8353
      @alexcoolbeans8353 5 місяців тому

      Its still might happen we have for tomorrow to look for

  • @cube3156
    @cube3156 5 місяців тому +2

    Challenge: Every time he says "waffle", chug 1 cup of creamy milk

  • @randomaccount6146
    @randomaccount6146 5 місяців тому

    I love seeing Pam and Buster being picked and working out in the game

  • @Loraxius
    @Loraxius 5 місяців тому

    wow spen! you really could be a commentator for real! nice commentating

  • @trakmas9915
    @trakmas9915 5 місяців тому +3

    Pro bs players, when is the final of the worlds?

  • @SakuraHougetsu28
    @SakuraHougetsu28 5 місяців тому

    Can't believe what HMBLE picked in the last match, they literally wasted their chance to win

  • @paul.w6392
    @paul.w6392 5 місяців тому +1

    i hoped you would cover humble vs sk it was one of the best matches ever

  • @Couch_potato513
    @Couch_potato513 5 місяців тому +1

    You should move your facecam to left side so we can see the 3rd red ban

  • @tidalwaffles
    @tidalwaffles 5 місяців тому +1

    By the logic of "It's just so hard to hit these players with piper" then why is angelo banned? I mean, if its hard hitting shots on pros, Angelo has to charge and if he misses its a huge downtime in between shots.

    • @imlatino4572
      @imlatino4572 5 місяців тому +8

      -Angelo's shot is easier to hit
      -Very fast movement speed on a pro, so you're never pinching them
      -Piper has exploitable weaknesses, while Angelo pretty much has none
      Also, the downtime between shots isn't as bad when you don't need to stop shooting to heal bc of super

    • @tidalwaffles
      @tidalwaffles 5 місяців тому

      @@imlatino4572 he does have a weakness. If you rush him he is weaker than piper

    • @hajimehinata5854
      @hajimehinata5854 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tidalwafflesnot that much, especially with gadget being basucally a piper super

    • @travisbrown9936
      @travisbrown9936 5 місяців тому +1

      @@tidalwaffleshis gadget makes it so that there’s no way to get close he gets out so easily

  • @Gabi-jh1zb
    @Gabi-jh1zb 5 місяців тому

    NAVI vs CR was a crazy game, had me on the edg(ing)e of my seat

  • @MisterySB
    @MisterySB 5 місяців тому +2

    I love these please make more :))

  • @Blue_bean4126
    @Blue_bean4126 5 місяців тому +3

    FIRST I SAW THE VIDEO 15 SECS AGO!!❤❤🎉

  • @Masterbaiter-t1j
    @Masterbaiter-t1j 5 місяців тому +4

    Why are you shining spen?

  • @sunner6110
    @sunner6110 5 місяців тому

    16:59 bruh the belle hypercharged super just dodget the piper

  • @mortisfangmain1
    @mortisfangmain1 5 місяців тому

    nani teleporting to the trap was funny

  • @SkylerDriver-u8r
    @SkylerDriver-u8r 5 місяців тому +1

    Spen it might be my ocd but moving your cam to the left during these videos would be great so we can see the bans better lol. Still Great Content keep up the Grind!

  • @Crowekk
    @Crowekk 5 місяців тому

    I got 4/9 predictions… i only guessed ZETA and HMBLE games

  • @Gendolf_UA
    @Gendolf_UA 5 місяців тому

    Every game in semis was crazy

  • @West-vlaanderen_mapping
    @West-vlaanderen_mapping 5 місяців тому +1

    Yo could u also look at the Navi vs Cr one bc Navi's comeback was great dude

  • @diablox16
    @diablox16 5 місяців тому +2

    Polska Gurom
    ZETA Kings!!!

  • @AquaticBrawl
    @AquaticBrawl 5 місяців тому +1

    Best hotzone set I have ever seen!

  • @Triggs2210
    @Triggs2210 5 місяців тому

    I can't believe that Navi beat Crazy Racoon

  • @RTSxSHAFT
    @RTSxSHAFT 5 місяців тому

    WHICH charlie star power is better now? no one in esports was using digestive

  • @toadstoolisgod7594
    @toadstoolisgod7594 5 місяців тому +2

    losing with 97% is crazy

  • @tabletalenovo9695
    @tabletalenovo9695 5 місяців тому

    nice timing, I just got clobbered playing colt on this map and almost smashed my phone

    • @hi-nb4uy
      @hi-nb4uy 5 місяців тому

      Smashing your phone over brawl stars is actually crazy. It’s a mobile game for 8 year old it isn’t that serious

    • @tabletalenovo9695
      @tabletalenovo9695 5 місяців тому

      @@hi-nb4uy nu ne distram in legendar

  • @TheNile7
    @TheNile7 5 місяців тому

    Surprised kit didn’t make an appearance on belles rock, once he attaches to a tank like buster or bibi it’s over for the other team

  • @jevonjemir3844
    @jevonjemir3844 6 годин тому

    One thing I noticed is they miss soooooooooo many shots💀💀

  • @AidenQt-s4n
    @AidenQt-s4n 5 місяців тому

    I watched this live at 2am so it was such a mix of emotions!!!

  • @himonthebibi
    @himonthebibi 5 місяців тому

    Hmble did really well to top it over Zeta at the start

  • @jibbevandeven9103
    @jibbevandeven9103 5 місяців тому

    Since when is safe zone asymmetrical?
    The bushes in front of the safe are larger on the top side

  • @ilyas8409
    @ilyas8409 5 місяців тому

    wow charlie is still a very strong pick even after being nerfed for 2829 times

  • @tristanwagner6917
    @tristanwagner6917 5 місяців тому

    Spen,
    I love these videos! I learn more about the meta then I do during a week of your streams ❤❤❤
    You could consider commentator job if you enjoy it enouhh!

  • @ashrithchirnalli
    @ashrithchirnalli 5 місяців тому

    Bro u gotta check out the apac monthly finals

  • @wise-man-vc1ig
    @wise-man-vc1ig 5 місяців тому +1

    Symantec is goated🐐🐐

  • @vaib223
    @vaib223 5 місяців тому +4

    me personally enjoying twitter beef rn it is more entertaining than zeta vs hmble

  • @radhastarr2228
    @radhastarr2228 5 місяців тому

    Was this the worldies I don’t understand 😅
    Edit: also why do I only see 2 hmble players in the irl player cam

  • @hahayayak3620
    @hahayayak3620 5 місяців тому

    Anyone else notice that you literally only get brawl stars UA-cam ads when u click on a brawl stars video 😂😂 i swear every time… they gotta rework their advertising

  • @JoshIsSad
    @JoshIsSad 5 місяців тому

    Man i will never forget i picked hmble rather than sk

  • @zeeshaniqbal2763
    @zeeshaniqbal2763 5 місяців тому +2

    Nice Brock tech

  • @3dotsxd32
    @3dotsxd32 5 місяців тому +1

    spoiler
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    spen coming back to esports

  • @JD-wv1yi
    @JD-wv1yi 5 місяців тому

    the entire world is trying to beat zeta, they're basically mocking us at this point, they keep telling us to "get in their level", and we can't ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ

  • @jajatisarma3252
    @jajatisarma3252 5 місяців тому

    Hey Spen, why don't you, Symantec, and Drage make a new team? we want to see you back in competitive bs

  • @The444Allstar
    @The444Allstar 5 місяців тому

    Zeta are set 5 merchants, teams gotta finish them while up at 2-1 or else they will comeback.

  • @arsenchilingaryan5630
    @arsenchilingaryan5630 5 місяців тому

    Boss with Colt is too op. Also what should they have picked instead of Ash in the last game? Maybe Emz?

    • @Angaro-79
      @Angaro-79 5 місяців тому

      Probaly griff in my opinion as he can destroy grass which can limit buster and shelly a lot. It also benefits stu and Charlie. Also a decent counter to buster I guess.

    • @pixiehunter5724
      @pixiehunter5724 5 місяців тому

      @@Angaro-79griff couldve worked, i feel like max or rico worked too

    • @Angaro-79
      @Angaro-79 5 місяців тому

      @@pixiehunter5724 I feel buster would be a pretty good of a counter to max and rico . Buster gaget and super is very good against them. Also charlie would get good matchup against them . Just my opinion but still I guess pros could have made max and rico work.

    • @Keepcalm-lovesports
      @Keepcalm-lovesports 5 місяців тому

      Anything but a tank would be better honestly, but Zeta had the draft when they got Shelly and Buster against Stu and Amber. They needed to destroy the grass early to give them vision on Shelly and Buster and to slow them down OR go aggressive really early before Buster gets super. Zeta basically got the meta counters to their own picks.

  • @BART_G
    @BART_G 5 місяців тому

    If gero didnt jump away from the zone at 97% would they get it?

  • @Viridian02
    @Viridian02 5 місяців тому

    bruh zeta should have swapped brock and 8bit lanes at the start. brock would have easily beat colt lane if he were in that little corner... smh

  • @Neuroveil
    @Neuroveil 5 місяців тому

    It was mostly the comp diff zeta had more experience... Idk what was HBMLE on tho ash againts shelly? bea in hot zone?

    • @jan2230
      @jan2230 5 місяців тому

      Pam carried twice and yeah Ash wasn't good. I think they played way better

  • @okz9844
    @okz9844 5 місяців тому

    That was mental bruv init.

  • @chargegarg8234
    @chargegarg8234 5 місяців тому +2

    Where tf were max and sandy? Are they overrated?

  • @Lucas_18
    @Lucas_18 5 місяців тому +1

    I just went afk in a ranked match to comment on this video :)

  • @LarryLawrie-uk9it
    @LarryLawrie-uk9it 5 місяців тому

    Spen try the new Gus change his super that knockback enemies if they get close

  • @batongsankhuvucmiennam7103
    @batongsankhuvucmiennam7103 5 місяців тому

    What game?

  • @Masterbaiter-t1j
    @Masterbaiter-t1j 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm sad for hmble 😢

  • @um8078
    @um8078 5 місяців тому

    Yo spen can you just call those player by the brawler they are playing? The names get kinda confusing sometimes

  • @ShereOsman09
    @ShereOsman09 5 місяців тому +1

    No Hank pick this time😕

  • @Arknsus
    @Arknsus 5 місяців тому

    Nah I'd say SK vs HMBL was more closer if you ask me

  • @conz2078
    @conz2078 5 місяців тому

    lowkey lukii couldve gone maisie with a vision gear

  • @timsayer9067
    @timsayer9067 4 місяці тому

    Rank brawlers based off how much you like playing them!

  • @NovasGaming527
    @NovasGaming527 5 місяців тому

    Who knows how to claim the rewards for esports thank you to anybody responding btw love you spen

  • @HesOneTap
    @HesOneTap 5 місяців тому

    "I'm not trying to become pro anymore. I just wanna give the pros a chance, I'd just be to good.. 😂😂 oil up

  • @DaLing731
    @DaLing731 5 місяців тому

    I think zeta should’ve went a thrower instead of Brock on belles rock idk if you agree

  • @frog605
    @frog605 5 місяців тому

    that hz set was so intense

  • @sebashoupst3603
    @sebashoupst3603 5 місяців тому

    34:33 who tf is Rosie? I mean, I do know Rosie Charlie, the skin...

  • @Harbin_07
    @Harbin_07 5 місяців тому +1

    7 minutess and not even a thousand views, smh

    • @LEONLOVESMUSIC
      @LEONLOVESMUSIC 5 місяців тому +1

      30 mins 4k views spen rly did fell off

  • @williamnduka1026
    @williamnduka1026 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi Spen!

  • @monolouge1944
    @monolouge1944 5 місяців тому

    Can you move your face cam somewhere else so it doesn't block red side ban 😢

  • @YzPinda
    @YzPinda 5 місяців тому

    I thought today was only APAC

  • @kitcat6-27
    @kitcat6-27 5 місяців тому

    I’m zeta fan hamble did very good job