So true. I was considering not buying the game in the first place, but then i thought what the heck, frst time in sinnoh, let go. I went in with no expectations and i was still disappointed!
@@SnowyIsSillyRule of thumb: if your comment doesn’t have a point or if it’s a waste of time save it for Twitter. The fact you hit enter/return/send on that comment is just sad. That’s one of those things you think to yourself and forget about as if it never happened.
I think there will be the platinum dex, as the trainer that gives you the flower to turn shaymin into its sky form is in the trailer, but isnt in the original games, only platinum. That and porygon z makes me believe so.
Honestly I think the overworld (especially the protags) looks like an rpg maker lowkey like the flowers in floaroma, I was hoping for a let’s go style with “normal” mechanics
Yeah, I've more or less decided I'm not buying it along with a few friends. I replayed Platinum instead. Same thing except slightly better story with no 3ds looking theme.
Honestly, when I first saw that hair, it made me think of an egg yolk for some reason. It's like a hard-boiled egg color. Hard-boiled egg jello wig 🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚
Genie: What is thy wish? Gen 4 fans: We want Pokemon Diamond and Pearl remakes Genie: Your wish is granted. You'll get your _"remakes"._ *Laughs mockingly*
So my biggest issue with Barry’s ‘LGPE’ style model is not only the lineless model, the colours are more darker and feel like mud when together. Also his hair looks like slime plopped on his head with how translucent it is in sections.
Yeah I remember first seeing the trailer and thinking that the coloring was odd. Some colors were so drastically lighter than the others that it kinda made my head hurt. And I knew Barry looked a bit weird until I saw a comment saying there was no lining. Overall, I don't really have an issue with the game itself, and who knows, they might actually fix them
@@castform7 I definitely agree, lines over the models would make them fit with the backgrounds much better along with a lighting and shadow pass over them.
Seems pointless to call this a “remake”. A remake should represent the game as its best version (ie platinum not two separate inferior versions) if it were to be made today. Not a “faithful” remake of how it looked in 2007. Especially when it’s art style was so limited back then because of the technology it was made on.
@JustSomeGuyOnTheNet dude, I can replay Gen 4 and Cynthia is still a hard battle, even after all this years and knowing about type effectiveness, EVs, IVs, natures, and abilities
@JustSomeGuyOnTheNet What's your point, then? The commenter just said they wanted her to be hard, not "AS hard" or whatever you're trying to say. And if you were a kid who couldn't tell which types were more effective (fire beats grass, grass beats water, water beats fire, etc.) then maybe you were just "bad at Pokemon" like you accused them of.
Unless Gamefreak holds off on new Pokémon till the postgame, Cynthia’s Garchomp, her usually hardest Pokémon, won’t be nearly as hard as it was, so the rest of her team would have to get a boost to retain her difficulty.
Gen five fans might be in the clear, it's been 2 years and so far there's no mention of remakes. I pray we never have to see N give a speech about truth and ideals as a tiny little guy
@@reelkanha ilca are actually a pretty talented studio (look at one piece odyssey), it's just the pokemon company is rushing these devs. i refuse to believe ilca wouldnt have wanted to make a remake like ORAS if they were able to
@@mrrowwmeowwbased on leaks ILCA did in fact want to do much more with DP instead of a faithful remake, it was GF that said “Make a faithful DP remake”. ILCA probably did as much as they could get away with to make them somewhat worth it
I found the gameplay of lets go broken (can get extremely overleveled after shiny hunting for half an hour) but I think the art style was my favorite part of the game.
Why? I love the fact they’re keeping the original design I missed the top down view but obviously with the updated 3D battles and better resolutions etc
@@doukzu honestly Unova got seriously shafted for megas and g-max. I like Garbodor but I know a lot of people don’t, and Mega Audino, seriously? Where’s mega Hydreigon, mega Haxorus, heck I’d take a mega Gigalith.
“Get ready Unova fans, it’ll be your turn to beg for remakes in less than a year” People were already begging for Gen 5 remakes the day after Gen 4 announcement, though most were memes.
As a Gen 5 fan, Gen 5 remakes will be actually very bad, because it means they won't remake Black 2 and White 2 probably, leaving great part of the plot of the region out. And even if they do, several things will be probably cut, like the Pokemon World Tournament and Pokestar Studios.
As a Gen 5 fan, I see more people asking for a Gen 5 Legends game about the Original Dragon, that people wanting Gen 5 remakes. Not to mention that they can't remake only BW or only BW2 yet provide a good Unova experience. Basically remaking Gen 5 is a sh*t idea. Remaking in the style of a remaster like SPBD could be ok I guess tho, as it would fix most problem Gen 5 graphics had with the DS resolution. But playing Gen 5 with correct emulator settings is just more worth it lol.
@@pokemonkarma Yeah, Gen 5 is the only gen that has a sequel title, so is the gen that is the most complex to make a remake of. Either they remake BW and it's sequels, remake BW BUT include it's sequels as a new mode after beating the game, or don't remake them at all, because really, you can't experience Gen 5 without playing both.
Bro why you guys really hate diamond and pearl remake I love it more then pokemon legend arcues also I hope it is a co op one so I can play it with my brother
It's just feels weird because they definitely have the money to make it look good but what we get just looks a bit lukewarm compared to what we've seen in the past
5:27 You nailed this perfectly, this clearly not a new experience, it just the old game but now with 3D models instead of sprites, and honestly I am the ones who are dissapointed. I really wanted for Sinno to have a treatment like ORAS with improved Sword and Shiled's graphics, but we're not getting any of it, and I'm a little bit sad.
@@velconx15 kinda like of Gen 7's battle tree and Gen 8's battle tower but way more fleshed out. It was "under construction" in or/as which is game freak's way of saying they're too lazy
OG Diamond/Pearl had just a Battle Tower with him rocking Cynthia's battle theme, likely if they do the minimum as expected, we'll have that single location as has become standard. Though reality may indeed be different in the end...
Personally I don't need new versions of D/P that are so slavishly "faithful" to the originals because I still have the actual originals. To me the biggest reason to remake a game is getting to see everything reimagined in whatever the current gen engine is. If everything is gonna look, and maybe even play, the same as the original games they might as well not have bothered with the "remake" and instead just ported the originals. Call me cynical, but this feels way too much like a minimal effort nostalgic cash grab, just a way to markup a pair of 15 year old games to sell at an inflated $60 price point. Legends Arcius has me somewhat excited, but Brilliant & Shining are probablably gonna be a hard pass.
Isn't that how the remakes work? Beyond that, I'm surprised nobody figured out that every remake comes out in a generation divisible by the original title. Kanto is the exception, given that we get that region pretty much every time, but gen 2 remakes in Gen 4, gen 3 in Gen 6, gen 4 in Gen 8
Arceus* but yes, I agree. As someone who did not buy a switch or SWSH, I was prepared for 2 years to buy a switch for JUST this in hopes that it would have the graphics of gen 8 or even gen 6.
I'm in the entirely same mindset about BDSP as you. It's a reskin at best - not a remake, and an underwhelming one at that which is *quite* disappointing. Legends could be great and has lots of potential but with action rpg you can make a lot of mistakes if you don't know what you're doing or how to inhabit the world correctly so I'm wary of it, but excited nonetheless.
The gens 1, 2 and 3 remakes breathed new life into the originals with new features, zones and graphical upgrades to enjoy. This just feels like Nintendo trying to rerelease Wii U games onto the Switch with no remastering... Editing this to say that after finally being shown some actual gameplay and seeing how they're handling the old features and adding new ones I'm a lot more interested. Gonna actually consider buying one if things don't tank like Sword and Shield did closer to release date.
Yeah...everything will be off. It’s just the small models are so tiny and cute but too cute so when the world is about to end everything just looks...Goofy
Your idea regarding "it's not the choice in artstyle, it's the execution" is just... EXACTLY how I'm feeling. I wish they had outlines, or some nicer colors, or just... I don't know, I've seen games do this exact style so much nicer and I just wish it wowed me! Pokémon can _absolutely_ go full cutesy, but there's a level of execution that I'm not getting here. I wanna see more gameplay, I feel like that trailer absolutely did not give me enough to go off of.
I think when they show off more game play we can better tell what it'll look like in the final product. Right now, its kinda just quick shots of early places
I feel like whenever you say "I'm gonna wait and see, I wasn't impressed with this" people ALWAYS jump up to tell you "IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK BETTER" but, like... I _genuinely_ mean that I'm gonna wait and see. Zero expectations. I'm not gonna avert my eyes when the game comes out! I'm still gonna at least check to see if I still don't like it.
The official website mentions that BDSP will have “player-friendly conveniences of the modern Pokémon series” so I’m pretty confident there will be some new features
Yeah I have a small feeling they had some artwork for wii designs of d/p stuff. And they based alot off of that. Really silly theory, but....... I have no other excuse for this art style to be like this.
Yeah but that "smol" is not looking good with these 3d graphics. I'm gonna be honest here, I know it's still in development but the overworld characters look very ugly, especially the boy character.
This has really felt like a monkey's paw curls situation. I've wanted a remake for so long now, but this made me regret all the time I spent wishing for that.. I don't want negative thoughts invading my mind when thinking about my favorite pokemon gen.
NO. We do NOT need Unova remakes. Not if they're just going to relegate the game'a development to what is essentially the "B-Team". I'm more of the opinion if you want to have adventures in Unova, just play B2/W2. (Especially because if there is one fact becoming evident; Game Freak simply doesn't want a National dex any more due to the fact that we have so many Pokemon now and apparently they can't figure out how to make it work for the Nintendo Switch.)
I saw a post somewhere that talked about how one of the big factors that makes it look odd it the lighting, everything seems kind of washed out and weird, lights seem to be in places that don’t really highlight the beauty of the world, for instance you can see on all the houses that the roofs are well lit but the sides are all dark, it makes to game feel weirdly cramped and boxed in. Lighting can be a difficult thing to pinpoint but when it’s done wrong things undoubtably feel off
The chibi artstlye doesn't bother me - I'm more concerned that these remakes will be so faithful to the point of keeping all the flaws of the originals that Platinum mostly fixed. Seeing Porygon-Z in the trailer suggest at the very least the unbalanced Pokedex might not be an issue so that's a positive.
Lol the colors were also one of the things that bothered me the most when I saw the trailer. The DS version color palette was waaaay prettier, cohesive, and unoffensive than the remakes. I'm glad that someone else noticed since video games are like an interactive work of art. Thus the language and principles of visual art should be respected when designing a video game.
Update from the future: the graphics and art direction have improved DRASTICALLY. I’m still not interested in such a close to the original remake, but it actually looks good now.
Personally, if the "remakes" are in fact "remasters" I see no point in buying them. I still have Platinum here. With Giratina cutscene and Battle Frontier to experience to my hearts content. Updating to 3D graphics and puting on Switch won't make a buyer out of me.
@Wiley Midura yeah, that's the problem of the Pokemon fanbase. "Nobody cares", as such, we will continue getting subpar products never worth of something like a Award in any type of premation. Imagine if Pokemon had the same prestigue as Zelda or Mario?
I didn't get a chance to play the originals. I was repulsed by 90% of the Pokemon designs. Many have grown on me since, though. So I'd like to experience the game. That said, I'd have no problem experiencing it with better graphics and extra bits.
I'll admit, I actually think the chibis look cute, kinda reminds me of nendoroids and early HM/SoS. The colors are a bit... concerning, though. Same with the battle models being lineless.
I'm glad that they improved the graphics from this trailer a lot for the final release now that I'm looking back on it However...I still wish that if they went this direction it looked like Link's Awakening Switch does. Or at least a similar amount of effort into stylizing the graphics.
@@oscarbelmare_22 lento didn’t have 7 when Gen - was made is my point blac and white are not the same as black and white 2 but they came out in the same generation. So when it comes to the remakes will they do 4 games or combined 1&2 in each remake?
If I have to choosebetween the n castle bits happening in chibi cutscenes or the 3d my character staring soullessly with a smile cutscene, the chibi face wins every time
i’m holding out hope for bw to get the next “legends” treatment but set back to the start of the unova region with the focus on the original dragon and the two brothers
I feel like they only did this because of the backlash on sword and shield but I feel like it was only the graphics and not the models but either way I'm just excited to play this because I never played Sinnoh
@@jorgehuertas3995 with emulation you can also speed up the game so it's not so slow. If there really is nothing new in BDSP then playing DP on emulators would be the same thing
Since they aren't making in the style of gen 8, I think it was a missed opportunity to copy Octopath traveler aesthetic. A lot of people really miss sprites and I am really tired of seeing the same models since X/Y.
@@THGMR-ox7sd ofc they are because they wanted a remake not a remaster because chibi models and random encounters were never asked for, and have no place in 2021.
I just can’t believe it. I’ve wanted gen 4 remakes ever since I was 13 years old. And now, they’ve somehow completely shifted my opinion to where these gen 4 remakes are gonna be the first main line pokemon games I don’t bother playing.
@@bladeexe Nah, I'm not the type of person who complains and then buys. I loved Sword And Shield, despite the criticism. I loved X and Y despite the criticism. I'm totally buying Legends. I love Pokemon. But there is literally 0 reasons to buy this new "remake" over the original games. So why would I bother?
@@just_op6983 I expected a remake of diamond and pearl that makes use of modern hardware to show it in a full 3D, explorable world. Eterna forest as a vast woodland. Jubilife city as a bustling metropolis. Mount Coronet as a towering dungeon. Not... the same game but less pretty bc there's no sprites.
@@just_op6983 "what did you expect" you are the kind of person that saw lets go eevee and pikachu and was astounded when you discovered they werent just a re-release of red and blue right?
@Uncle Ho ??? It look way worse than the 3ds games and Lets Go, even accounting the smaller resolution of the 3ds. Yes the 2d looks better than anything 3D, but BDSP has to by far the worst artstyle for Pokemon I've seen.
So bummed and surprised. DP In lets go art style would’ve been amazing. Pokémon legends (although using the “sinnoh” name), it is sinnoh before it was built up. So it will be open grassfields/nothing extremely recognizable. Pokémon legends doesn’t make up for diamond and pearl not getting a true remake with full proportion graphics Many fans anticipated to see the sinnoh as they know it in a let’s go style graphic with full proportion overworld characters and Pokémon, follow/ride Pokémon. It’s a bummer that this isn’t happening. They could have given us a modern let’s go graphic sinnoh for a new experience/true remake, and put the original DP on the eshop for people who want nostalgia. I understand some like the chibi remaster, but many are disappointed this region isn’t getting a true remake that utilizes modern technology to upgrade us from the chibi visuals that were only present years ago because it was what we were limited to. I hope DP gets a real remake one day. Pokémon legends will be amazing, but it’s a completely different region than sinnoh when it is built up.
Yes! Even Platinum was kind of slow in battles! I like Pokémon Platinum, but even I have to agree that the slow battles are not a good thing! It especially gets annoying running from many wild Pokémon! A faster-running Sinnoh game would be great!
Guys, it's a new game which has most of the elements of an old game but updated and with better graphics. It is literally the definition of a remake, even if it isn't a usual pokemon remake
If they just did chibi characters like Oras no one would have a problem. Additionally these remakes do not look like the links awakening remake, open your eyes people
Its like Linksa awakening because it looks like the original game rather then updating it to look like newer entries in the series. Thats what we mean when we say that.
Unova don't need remakes in my opinion they're perfect. Gen 3 needed remake cuz the mechanics and old pokemon movesets needed updates. Gen 4 kinda needed remake cuz it's pretty slow and the dex needs updating (2 fire types in dp, 1 if you didn't choose chimchar). B/W are great as is, even without older pokemon in the main story. B2/W2 are perfect they don't need anything more
imo bw and b2w2 are the best looking games. the moving sprites and the 3d were really nice and I don't want them to remake it in the 3D chibi aesthetic
I have a very soft spot for Sinnoh and it’s games as it was my first Pokémon in game I ever played. So when they announced remakes, I was ecstatic, then they showed the art and I was slightly let down. Like, I would have gladly waited a few more years if it meant better quality. Sorry if this sounds rude, but these are my thought.
I dont think you're being rude BDSP is disappointing even for non sinnoh fans. The gameplay is so similar to D/P to the point that im asking why bother if you have platinum? A game made ages ago? They could have waited to make this a more finished game but they didn't. Honestly? Why bother with the remakes for now? Postpone it! Legends arceus is great enough, push the BDSP until they're ready! But they didnt and now we have this disappointing unfinished feeling game
@@SanderEvers I know but that's not what I meant ! In Pokemon Legends we won't get the same characters, the same map, ... It's gonna be an entirely new game that's still in Sinnoh, but that's pretty much were the similarities end. The diamond and pearl games most people probably wanted was a game that's really close to the original ones but that brings something that can make them want to play it even though they already played the original games. It's pretty much what they did with OR/AS with the new graphics, the added episode at the end, the newest mechanics included into the game, new Megas, etc etc. Here, they did two games : One that is pretty much an exact copy with new graphics and one that is really really different.
As someone who lives in a super dimly lit house and sticks to very dark colors I’m very happy they seem to be going with darker tints but I know not everyone is a vampire like me.
the problem isn't so much that it's dark, dark colors can look good. The saturation is weird, the color palette doesn't match well and it overall looks muddy. From an artist's perspective it just looks like there wasn't much thought put into the colors, I agree with Lucy. It doesn't bother me too much though im still very excited, the only thing that really bothers me overall is Barry's model xd
"Get ready Unova fans, because in less than a year it's gonna be your turn to beg for remakes for the next 6 years." nah, gen 5 is already perfect as is
Gen 5 needs to be like legends Arceus and they could talk about N back in his days or go way back to the creation of the Dragons. It's my favourite and we need more.
When let’s go pikachu was a little newer, my cousin straight up just found a wild Zapdos just chillin in the air. Don’t know how he did it, but it happened.
I love the look of Sword and Shield and I was hoping it WOULD look like them, even if slightly updated/fixed in some ways. I just wanted a game that's part of the current generation, but set in an older region, to explore it again from a new perspective of a modern Pokémon game.
These games just feel...so lazy and sterile. As somebody else said, it's basically just a reskin of D/P from what little we can see. If this were made like HG/SS were over 10 years ago you can bet there'd be new routes, a butt ton of new features and more. I don't see the greed for cramming in new stuff to improve on the originals, I only see the greed for nostalgia pandering, again.
It's a reskin? Have you seen some of the images on the website? There are actual cutscenes in the remake, and if anything the game looks more 3D than the original. The website says this: "The story of Diamond and Pearl has been faithfully reproduced than the original.' Focus on the story being the same. Not the postgame, Pokedex, or additional features. Just the story.
You're totally right. If it's just the same game but now with 3D what's the point of buying it? People will be paying full price for basically a mod of a handheld game that probably will have less features. They didn't even change the characters designs like they did in ORAS and HGSS.
I think all of us reacted like that. My friend and i immediately thought "yeah, this is another modern videogame remake that's going to fuck up our happy memories".
I could honestly see the only difference in the Pokedex is that it is the Platinum Regional Dex + Sylveon because why would they include all the Eevee evolutions except Sylveon
I kinda hope we get Galarian evolutions as well. I did a Mime Jr Masuda to get ready for these remakes and now I don't know if I'll get to use Mr Rime...
@@Zachanator1213 you never know though since they are really stressing "faithful recreation" in all the marketing so far so I do hope that there is a fairy type since thats kinda tied to megas in a way and I want those
Everyone wants to hate on stuff early to seem cool but change their minds either because its changed their mind or its cool to like something. Like going with the flow. I barely ever change my opinions and its why I still haven't bought lets go cause they don't interest me.
Eh kinda. Although while Wind Waker got hate because "It wasn't Twilight Princess's edgy realistic look" aka hate because of what came before, this is getting flack because of the game's that came after it. Tbh I think it's in reference to how chibitized the character models were in the original game. Now let's talk about what everyone SHOULD be worried about: How boring the story of Diamond/Pearl was. Platinum majorly upped the story so I pray they go with that story.
I agree! I actually did think it looked kinda off when I saw the trailer but I didn't know why because I had nothing against chibis, but I totally agree with Evie that it's the colors. Hopefully that'll get changed so it's a bit easier on the eyes, but I do really like what they already have!
When I saw the trailer and the overworld showed up I totally went "ew." I mean the trees don't look too bad. The houses are really....meh. What extremely bothers me are the tiny cliff thingies. They look incredibly off and awful. And the flowers. Why?
@@maplemiles3381 Actually that profile picture is from 6 years ago. I'm sorry it offended you. And no, if I don't like the graphics of the game I am not going to buy it. I own a copy of Platinum for the Ds and will lovingly replay that. Thanks for your opinion.
YES OMG! I thought i was the only one who noticed the lighting and colors! Theyre fart too dark and smudgy for me. Anyway great video per usual, loved the depth and all the topics you brought up.
I have to say that I was in the hesitation camp as well when I saw the first trailer. Though I found the new trailer has made me pull a 180. The colors feel a lot more vibrant and despite the chibi style, the characters seem a lot more expressive. I would love to hear CandyEvie opinion on the new trail.
See, I think the colors in the game are dull. And I'm lowkey disgusted by the human characters. I feel like nothing pops out and grabs hold my attention. And i really want to like this game, i really do! But I'm not going to drop $60 for a game i own already and find so much better in terms of aesthetics for a waterdown game. I'll wait till i get the verdict, but I've felt like the last couple of pokemon games have been let downs for me.... please don't be bad....
@Just a Piranha Plant with Internet Access people can complain, regardless of how much YOU spend on something. That aside, why do you have to spend 100 dollars?
@@timekeeperz9714 No that is false lol, they are a support company not a real gamedev at least not until quite recently. Some people clearly don't use their brains.
As someone who does challenge runs on Platinum, which is also my favorite of all the Pokemon games I've played, I agree with you almost entirely. I fear that there will be no improvements on it at all by release and would honestly prefer if it was delayed to be improved to it's limit. Instead of the chibification I wish they had just gone for a retro 2D aesthetic if they were determined to do it this way. Still, woulda preferred Millenniumloops's version more. Ya should check out his Sinnoh concept trailer he made. He did such a better lookin' trailer in about a week alone -.- it breaks my heart that I can't play his version!
I still prefer the graphics other than the fact they look weird when they move, the sword and shield style graphics take away from making the games feel big because they simply don’t have enough time to make a world look so big with such complex graphics and 360 camera angles.
_EXACTLY_ my thoughts ... It's just better when things are two dimensional ! You can manage proportions so much better and with the more powerful consoles they could make Kyorge Vs. Groudon look amazing without going 3D Do you think they could?
@@seraphimsforge-master5433 But like... This is still 3D. And if you mean top-down rather than strict 2D, that's what the routes and towns were like in SwSh
@@tristanneal9552 Don't you think they could just do a two dimensional game and have that top down angled gameplay?! I think they could and it would be a lot cooler as well because that's the OG feel of a Pokémon Overworld ! I think maybe once you get into battle ...you could have like Smash Ultimate graphics! What do you reckon?
@@tristanneal9552 issue is that even if that is the case, they would then have to make the towns double the size because the characters are double the size and they just don’t have time, take ballonlea for example, think about how much bigger that place would have felt if, 1, they had the characters at at lest x and y size and 2, had a top down camera view.
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I'm going to absolutely lose my shit at Chibi Cyrus talking about how life, souls, and the universe are awful in a chibified rant about nihilism.
“IM NOT CUTE! I HAVE AN IMPORTANT BUSINESS TO RUN!”
Lol I know right! Especially with Sinnoh being the most grandiose region in lore!
Or is it ....
@@moshi_EN Lol
What about post game regional travel ?
Like going back to Sinnoh for more badges?
Do you think that'd be cool ??
@@moshi_EN *Imagine Castelia City*
I didn't get fwuit gummy so I need deeth of humans
“Are you ready for small Hilda...?”
That cracked me up. Lol
I’m ready for small Herbert.
I’m ready for small Herbert.
Who is hilda...l. I have not played diamond and pearl
@@markers7965 it’s the canonical name for the female protagonist of the gen 5 games.
Oh deym
I love how the expectations where low. Yet we still got less
So true. I was considering not buying the game in the first place, but then i thought what the heck, frst time in sinnoh, let go. I went in with no expectations and i was still disappointed!
True
Bought it used to avoid giving the Pokémon company my money. *Vote with your wallets!*
@@No_Direction-99 okay I guess?
@@SnowyIsSillyRule of thumb: if your comment doesn’t have a point or if it’s a waste of time save it for Twitter.
The fact you hit enter/return/send on that comment is just sad. That’s one of those things you think to yourself and forget about as if it never happened.
Looks like we'll have another Version Differences soon!
Yo I love your Duke profile picture
Yeah, maybe we will get up to 7 minutes this time!
@@sobblewobble3886
Thanks!
*soon*
If by soon, you mean a year after the game's release, then yeah.
I think there will be the platinum dex, as the trainer that gives you the flower to turn shaymin into its sky form is in the trailer, but isnt in the original games, only platinum. That and porygon z makes me believe so.
You also see porygon
@@umburon they said that lol
I'd say Porygon Z doesn't necessarily mean platinum dex and could just mean we're getting a national dex and the battle island
Porygon z is a 4th gen pokemon, so it doesn't mean anything, really.
@@rex_melynas But it was only in the platinum dex, rather than the diamond/pearl dex.
Honestly I think the overworld (especially the protags) looks like an rpg maker lowkey like the flowers in floaroma, I was hoping for a let’s go style with “normal” mechanics
When I first saw the overworld view it reminded me of a fan made pokemon game on pc. Not what I expected from a professional team.
@@j.844 Well, from what I hear ILCA develops mobile games, and that’s exactly what this looks like.
Yeah I thought of RPG maker as well
@@izzyotto8044 agreed, let’s go is gorgeous compared to this
Yeah, I've more or less decided I'm not buying it along with a few friends. I replayed Platinum instead. Same thing except slightly better story with no 3ds looking theme.
Fans: Nostalgia!
GameFreak: Smol
Fans: Not like that!
Gamefreak isn't the one making the remakes for god's sake. It's ILCA. Only Masuda is assisting them, as well as probably the music composers.
@@MariOmor1 ILCA develops but GF still makes the desicions
@@Elitus Only Masuda does
Pretty sure GF didn't decide that at all
@@user-hb7bo4mr2i Yeah you're right. Good to see someone who doesn't blame GF pointlessly.
The way they did Barry's hair makes it look like he's bald and wearing a jello wig
Why did you have to put that awful image in my head.
Well that image in my head just made me giggle thanks for that
@@ricketchu9603 The World of Final Fantasy looks more Ambitious Thant the remakes.
Honestly, when I first saw that hair, it made me think of an egg yolk for some reason. It's like a hard-boiled egg color.
Hard-boiled egg jello wig 🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚
Remember while staring at small dawn that this was the first trainer to catch god in the Pokémon universe
What about smol Lucas?
@Michael Afton no its smol I don't make the rules.
who also probably had 999 master balls, 69 bad eggs and a glitched shiny
arceus is not legit
Dawn wasn't able to catch arceus in the originals. The arceus event was programmed into the game but it was never utilized.
Genie: What is thy wish?
Gen 4 fans: We want Pokemon Diamond and Pearl remakes
Genie: Your wish is granted. You'll get your _"remakes"._ *Laughs mockingly*
Ahaha funny and original and very well thought out
Chief this is a UA-cam comment calm down
@@theweakestbrazilianmale3398 his channel name stands true
These remakes were the monkey's paw
@@granddidit But it is tho, like unironically
A lot more then some comments
Nintendo:”You wanted these graphics..”
Us:”We didn’t want this..”
Most people were probably expecting slightly realistic proportions like all the other 3D games and better colors and character design and new features
@@wysp272 Yw
U were just expecting god but you know its not ps5. Sometimes i wish that pokemon gets buyed by some company and comes to ps4/5
@@oceanustheprotogen1997 yeah.
@@bethterry9540 like idk ATLUS they made Shin Megami Tensei that is basiclly edgy pokemon so I think they could work with it
So my biggest issue with Barry’s ‘LGPE’ style model is not only the lineless model, the colours are more darker and feel like mud when together. Also his hair looks like slime plopped on his head with how translucent it is in sections.
I was going the more bootleg SSJ route with Barry. Overall, wish therewere some outlines cause and other characters in battle don't look right at all.
Yeah I remember first seeing the trailer and thinking that the coloring was odd. Some colors were so drastically lighter than the others that it kinda made my head hurt. And I knew Barry looked a bit weird until I saw a comment saying there was no lining. Overall, I don't really have an issue with the game itself, and who knows, they might actually fix them
@@castform7 I definitely agree, lines over the models would make them fit with the backgrounds much better along with a lighting and shadow pass over them.
More darker
My Brother Put it in the best way possible to describe the trailers:
"It Looks Like A Flash Game That They Put effort on"
Oof but true
yeah! like how legends looks like a unity fangame!
The Chibi style does not work with the graphics
Seems pointless to call this a “remake”. A remake should represent the game as its best version (ie platinum not two separate inferior versions) if it were to be made today. Not a “faithful” remake of how it looked in 2007. Especially when it’s art style was so limited back then because of the technology it was made on.
more like unity
If Cynthia isn't hard, I'm going to be very upset
@JustSomeGuyOnTheNet dude, I can replay Gen 4 and Cynthia is still a hard battle, even after all this years and knowing about type effectiveness, EVs, IVs, natures, and abilities
@JustSomeGuyOnTheNet What's your point, then? The commenter just said they wanted her to be hard, not "AS hard" or whatever you're trying to say. And if you were a kid who couldn't tell which types were more effective (fire beats grass, grass beats water, water beats fire, etc.) then maybe you were just "bad at Pokemon" like you accused them of.
They should give Cynthia's Garchomp Iron Head so it can counter Fairy types.
Unless Gamefreak holds off on new Pokémon till the postgame, Cynthia’s Garchomp, her usually hardest Pokémon, won’t be nearly as hard as it was, so the rest of her team would have to get a boost to retain her difficulty.
@@chilzer5612 You mean Illc, Gamefreak isn't designing these remakes.
Gen five fans might be in the clear, it's been 2 years and so far there's no mention of remakes. I pray we never have to see N give a speech about truth and ideals as a tiny little guy
Let's hope that stays true, but I could time this comment poorly and we get an announcement real soon
If I see the ILCA logo at the announcement for those. Ima just cry. My childhood ruined. Twice.
@@reelkanha ilca are actually a pretty talented studio (look at one piece odyssey), it's just the pokemon company is rushing these devs. i refuse to believe ilca wouldnt have wanted to make a remake like ORAS if they were able to
@@mrrowwmeowwbased on leaks ILCA did in fact want to do much more with DP instead of a faithful remake, it was GF that said “Make a faithful DP remake”. ILCA probably did as much as they could get away with to make them somewhat worth it
Who's sad because Barry's hyperactive battle animation didn't make it
Tbh his animation would be hilarious in 3d but it's a safe move not to move those arms so crazy 😂
Im sad he even made it in the remake at all, i was hoping he would have been thanos snapped
big sad
You never know it might get added in later on. The games are still in development.
Me.
As someone who wasn’t crazy about let’s go, even I would have much rather had something in the style of let’s go.
I found the gameplay of lets go broken (can get extremely overleveled after shiny hunting for half an hour) but I think the art style was my favorite part of the game.
Why? I love the fact they’re keeping the original design I missed the top down view but obviously with the updated 3D battles and better resolutions etc
@@hatchell18 The art style for the Sinnoh remakes looks like shit. It looks like a mobile game from 2011.
@@HarshDude126 no it looks the same as the originals just a little more 3D. I like it.
@@HarshDude126 it looks like the originals just touched up a bit and with 3D battles I love that
“Get ready Unova fans” nah I’m cool, B/W were super cool and they got their own round of shit from the internet. Mega Bisharp would be super cool tho.
I'm not hounding for any unova remakes because it's wonderful as is, but I'd love to see one, especially a mega Zoroark
@@doukzu honestly Unova got seriously shafted for megas and g-max. I like Garbodor but I know a lot of people don’t, and Mega Audino, seriously? Where’s mega Hydreigon, mega Haxorus, heck I’d take a mega Gigalith.
@@TheKingsPride Audino needed the mega, Hydreigon and Haxorus in no way do lol
@@giancarlocaballero7684 if that was how it’s determined then why do 3 pseudo legendaries have megas? It’s not a balance patch, it’s a cool feature.
@@TheKingsPride Because GF literally sucks at balancing. I didn't say that's how it is, I said that's how it should be.
I love how she uses only like seven different positions for her animated character but somehow they are always perfect
“Get ready Unova fans, it’ll be your turn to beg for remakes in less than a year”
People were already begging for Gen 5 remakes the day after Gen 4 announcement, though most were memes.
As a Gen 5 fan, Gen 5 remakes will be actually very bad, because it means they won't remake Black 2 and White 2 probably, leaving great part of the plot of the region out.
And even if they do, several things will be probably cut, like the Pokemon World Tournament and Pokestar Studios.
I mean played black and white/2 a million times but of it gets a remake I'm totally buying it just to see kyurem
I'd honestly get it just to see N and I'm not ashamed to say it
As a Gen 5 fan, I see more people asking for a Gen 5 Legends game about the Original Dragon, that people wanting Gen 5 remakes.
Not to mention that they can't remake only BW or only BW2 yet provide a good Unova experience.
Basically remaking Gen 5 is a sh*t idea. Remaking in the style of a remaster like SPBD could be ok I guess tho, as it would fix most problem Gen 5 graphics had with the DS resolution.
But playing Gen 5 with correct emulator settings is just more worth it lol.
@@pokemonkarma Yeah, Gen 5 is the only gen that has a sequel title, so is the gen that is the most complex to make a remake of. Either they remake BW and it's sequels, remake BW BUT include it's sequels as a new mode after beating the game, or don't remake them at all, because really, you can't experience Gen 5 without playing both.
Me when I saw the direct: “AYYYY DIAMOND AND PEARL!!!! wait what the fu-“
Bro why you guys really hate diamond and pearl remake I love it more then pokemon legend arcues also I hope it is a co op one so I can play it with my brother
I don’t hate it I’m just wary about the art style of the new game
Bruh this is so true
@@wikk07 why people don't like the design man 😡
@Kirankumar Atom it is just a very weird change of styles I HATE THE NEW BABY SPRITES
It's just feels weird because they definitely have the money to make it look good but what we get just looks a bit lukewarm compared to what we've seen in the past
⭐⭐Truee ⭐⭐
it feels like a scam for your money
@@femto859
thats pokemon for ya
It's their first time making a game, give them a break
@@katchupp5067 no not every remake
5:27 You nailed this perfectly, this clearly not a new experience, it just the old game but now with 3D models instead of sprites, and honestly I am the ones who are dissapointed. I really wanted for Sinno to have a treatment like ORAS with improved Sword and Shiled's graphics, but we're not getting any of it, and I'm a little bit sad.
Pokémon doesn't care about his fans anymore.
Who here's willing to bet that Battle frontier doesn't exist in the remakes.
I will cry
I'd like to toss down 3 Honey-Roasted Peanuts on "Battle Tower only a la OG Diamond/Pearl" please.
What's a Battle Frontier?
@@velconx15 kinda like of Gen 7's battle tree and Gen 8's battle tower but way more fleshed out. It was "under construction" in or/as which is game freak's way of saying they're too lazy
You have now cross the boycott minefield.
Those pancakes look a little bit dodgy, you wouldn’t want one of them to pop......
If there's no Battle Frontier Barry's dad is jobless
or he experiences pokemon protagonist syndrome and his father is just g o n e
*_Finally a comment that doesn't make me want to eat glass and wash it done with a cement smoothie......._*
Closed for covid
See you next year
OG Diamond/Pearl had just a Battle Tower with him rocking Cynthia's battle theme, likely if they do the minimum as expected, we'll have that single location as has become standard. Though reality may indeed be different in the end...
Personally I don't need new versions of D/P that are so slavishly "faithful" to the originals because I still have the actual originals. To me the biggest reason to remake a game is getting to see everything reimagined in whatever the current gen engine is. If everything is gonna look, and maybe even play, the same as the original games they might as well not have bothered with the "remake" and instead just ported the originals.
Call me cynical, but this feels way too much like a minimal effort nostalgic cash grab, just a way to markup a pair of 15 year old games to sell at an inflated $60 price point. Legends Arcius has me somewhat excited, but Brilliant & Shining are probablably gonna be a hard pass.
Preach
Yep
Isn't that how the remakes work? Beyond that, I'm surprised nobody figured out that every remake comes out in a generation divisible by the original title. Kanto is the exception, given that we get that region pretty much every time, but gen 2 remakes in Gen 4, gen 3 in Gen 6, gen 4 in Gen 8
Arceus* but yes, I agree. As someone who did not buy a switch or SWSH, I was prepared for 2 years to buy a switch for JUST this in hopes that it would have the graphics of gen 8 or even gen 6.
I'm in the entirely same mindset about BDSP as you. It's a reskin at best - not a remake, and an underwhelming one at that which is *quite* disappointing.
Legends could be great and has lots of potential but with action rpg you can make a lot of mistakes if you don't know what you're doing or how to inhabit the world correctly so I'm wary of it, but excited nonetheless.
The gens 1, 2 and 3 remakes breathed new life into the originals with new features, zones and graphical upgrades to enjoy. This just feels like Nintendo trying to rerelease Wii U games onto the Switch with no remastering...
Editing this to say that after finally being shown some actual gameplay and seeing how they're handling the old features and adding new ones I'm a lot more interested. Gonna actually consider buying one if things don't tank like Sword and Shield did closer to release date.
Ironically they already did that they brought miitopia to the switch
@@nathanwalton340 Pikmin 3 too.
@@nathanwalton340 Miitopia was a 3DS game. NSMBU would be a better example.
Yea I hope Unova isn't like this,it's tol good of games to just do what they are doing to dp
I do like the ports, games I wanted to play but never did or good games that never got the light due to being on the WII U.
T I N Y Cynthia is going to be super weird
even better she's B I G like using the sun & moon model
Yeah...everything will be off. It’s just the small models are so tiny and cute but too cute so when the world is about to end everything just looks...Goofy
I'm just imagining a shitty midi keyboard version of her piano theme.
cant be worse than small wailord
I am convinced she will be normal height
Your idea regarding "it's not the choice in artstyle, it's the execution" is just... EXACTLY how I'm feeling. I wish they had outlines, or some nicer colors, or just... I don't know, I've seen games do this exact style so much nicer and I just wish it wowed me! Pokémon can _absolutely_ go full cutesy, but there's a level of execution that I'm not getting here.
I wanna see more gameplay, I feel like that trailer absolutely did not give me enough to go off of.
I think when they show off more game play we can better tell what it'll look like in the final product. Right now, its kinda just quick shots of early places
@@jessecouch yes but... pokemon SwandShield didn't get any improvement on the wild area showed in the trailer to the one in the game
@@jessecouch so im gonna keep my expectations extremely loooow
@@wail2774 But this time it’s not Game Freak developing it so who knows
I feel like whenever you say "I'm gonna wait and see, I wasn't impressed with this" people ALWAYS jump up to tell you "IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK BETTER" but, like... I _genuinely_ mean that I'm gonna wait and see. Zero expectations.
I'm not gonna avert my eyes when the game comes out! I'm still gonna at least check to see if I still don't like it.
The official website mentions that BDSP will have “player-friendly conveniences of the modern Pokémon series” so I’m pretty confident there will be some new features
I think so too. Just hoping that by that they don’t mean the new exp. share introduced in XY, that would be a deal breaker to me
@@terrorifero just turn it off?
I just hope its faster than the original
@@BookWyrmOnAString Oops, I said XY but I was actually referring to LGPE and SwSh. You can’t turn it off in those games
@@terrorifero for me it would ideally be left as an option
Evie: "I want my big penguin."
Me: "MONKE."
A Friend: "W O R L D T O R T L E"
I don’t have a problem with the smolness, just the shading and stuff.
Yeah I have a small feeling they had some artwork for wii designs of d/p stuff. And they based alot off of that. Really silly theory, but....... I have no other excuse for this art style to be like this.
I like *smol*
@Vishnu PM I think they will because it isn't gen 9
Yeah but that "smol" is not looking good with these 3d graphics. I'm gonna be honest here, I know it's still in development but the overworld characters look very ugly, especially the boy character.
@@shinyhunterclara6287 I think the game has the simular graphics as a link between worlds
This has really felt like a monkey's paw curls situation. I've wanted a remake for so long now, but this made me regret all the time I spent wishing for that.. I don't want negative thoughts invading my mind when thinking about my favorite pokemon gen.
Your negative thoughts:
(Its kinda trashy)
(Why is Dawn built like that?)
(The flowers looks horrendous)
Pokemon Legends Arceus Starters Be Like:
Samurott: He protecc
Decidueye: He attacc
But most importantly....
Typhlosion: _I got the fire bacc!!!!!_
I love typhlosion fire back makes him more intimidating
Original but underrated
You are the same guy who commented on memega's video and came on tts
@@elementaltreon512 typhlosion without fire is basically a gigantic rat thing, and I say that with cindaquill's line being one of my favorites
I wonder how they'll do Unova remakes. Seeing as there's two completely seperate pairs of games with entirely different stories and progression.
I want Unova remakes, even if they're just as bad as BDSP its still better than no remakes at all
NO. We do NOT need Unova remakes. Not if they're just going to relegate the game'a development to what is essentially the "B-Team". I'm more of the opinion if you want to have adventures in Unova, just play B2/W2. (Especially because if there is one fact becoming evident; Game Freak simply doesn't want a National dex any more due to the fact that we have so many Pokemon now and apparently they can't figure out how to make it work for the Nintendo Switch.)
@@Phoenix_Destiny_KaiOh they know how to figure it out, they just can't be arsed to do it anymore
@@Typhoon_Lex ....then that's even worse.
I saw a post somewhere that talked about how one of the big factors that makes it look odd it the lighting, everything seems kind of washed out and weird, lights seem to be in places that don’t really highlight the beauty of the world, for instance you can see on all the houses that the roofs are well lit but the sides are all dark, it makes to game feel weirdly cramped and boxed in. Lighting can be a difficult thing to pinpoint but when it’s done wrong things undoubtably feel off
The chibi artstlye doesn't bother me - I'm more concerned that these remakes will be so faithful to the point of keeping all the flaws of the originals that Platinum mostly fixed. Seeing Porygon-Z in the trailer suggest at the very least the unbalanced Pokedex might not be an issue so that's a positive.
That's exactly what I think
I’m sure it’s faithful to a certain point, it wouldn’t make sense to make a remake with all the problems.
Just give them fire types for Arceus' sake
Community: “*NO GIRATINA?!!? DUMB*”
Me: GIRATINA IS POSTGAME YOU IDIOTS
@@tionaus Yeah, I'm hoping Giratina gets the same treatment Rayquaza did in ORAS.
Also, I'm worried about the HMs.
Lol the colors were also one of the things that bothered me the most when I saw the trailer. The DS version color palette was waaaay prettier, cohesive, and unoffensive than the remakes. I'm glad that someone else noticed since video games are like an interactive work of art. Thus the language and principles of visual art should be respected when designing a video game.
These are the kind of graphics and art direction we've come to expect from freemium mobile games
You mean the normal graphics of every 3d pokemon game
No0e
I think the graphics look great in my opinion. I like the
s m o l l
Update from the future: the graphics and art direction have improved DRASTICALLY. I’m still not interested in such a close to the original remake, but it actually looks good now.
Smh genshin impact is waaay better graphically
Personally, if the "remakes" are in fact "remasters" I see no point in buying them. I still have Platinum here. With Giratina cutscene and Battle Frontier to experience to my hearts content. Updating to 3D graphics and puting on Switch won't make a buyer out of me.
@Wiley Midura yeah, that's the problem of the Pokemon fanbase. "Nobody cares", as such, we will continue getting subpar products never worth of something like a Award in any type of premation.
Imagine if Pokemon had the same prestigue as Zelda or Mario?
@@NataliaNeeSama They don't want the prestige if they sell more w/o. Money trumps all, and that's why fans get what they get. Not enough complaining
The only reason i get it is because i can have 12 different saves simultaneously xD
@Wiley Midura Yeah, that's why Pokemon will continue to be bad forever.
I didn't get a chance to play the originals. I was repulsed by 90% of the Pokemon designs. Many have grown on me since, though. So I'd like to experience the game. That said, I'd have no problem experiencing it with better graphics and extra bits.
Soon furret can take a break
@Undertelando com Bulby - Roblox since June 17 2019
@@idksomerandomguyontheinter2875 That Furret deserves a rest.
@@Jessica_Schweser ikr
The thing is... they switched the Furrets. I was reading the chat. The entire thing is scuffed.
@@the_real_tabby Then all those Furrets can finally rest
I'll admit, I actually think the chibis look cute, kinda reminds me of nendoroids and early HM/SoS. The colors are a bit... concerning, though. Same with the battle models being lineless.
I agree! I felt like everyone was making a big deal out if smol dawn but i deffo agree with how horrible the colour pallets look lmao
I'm glad that they improved the graphics from this trailer a lot for the final release now that I'm looking back on it
However...I still wish that if they went this direction it looked like Link's Awakening Switch does. Or at least a similar amount of effort into stylizing the graphics.
Me 2 seconds after watching the trailer: I can't wait for Black and White Remakes!
Thsts going to be interesting to see how they handle unova remakes since that region has 4 games already
@@oscarbelmare_22 lento didn’t have 7 when Gen - was made is my point blac and white are not the same as black and white 2 but they came out in the same generation. So when it comes to the remakes will they do 4 games or combined 1&2 in each remake?
@@Dragonmaster0118 most likely scenario is they just drop 2 all together. Would be cool to have them combined though.
If I have to choosebetween the n castle bits happening in chibi cutscenes or the 3d my character staring soullessly with a smile cutscene, the chibi face wins every time
i’m holding out hope for bw to get the next “legends” treatment but set back to the start of the unova region with the focus on the original dragon and the two brothers
I feel like they only did this because of the backlash on sword and shield but I feel like it was only the graphics and not the models but either way I'm just excited to play this because I never played Sinnoh
You know you can buy a DS and a platinum copy for 40 bugs/euros, right? Without even talking about emulation.
@@jorgehuertas3995 with emulation you can also speed up the game so it's not so slow. If there really is nothing new in BDSP then playing DP on emulators would be the same thing
Since they aren't making in the style of gen 8, I think it was a missed opportunity to copy Octopath traveler aesthetic. A lot of people really miss sprites and I am really tired of seeing the same models since X/Y.
Still, best sold games, so...
@@THGMR-ox7sd ofc they are because they wanted a remake not a remaster because chibi models and random encounters were never asked for, and have no place in 2021.
I just can’t believe it. I’ve wanted gen 4 remakes ever since I was 13 years old. And now, they’ve somehow completely shifted my opinion to where these gen 4 remakes are gonna be the first main line pokemon games I don’t bother playing.
See you on launch day.
@@bladeexe Nah, I'm not the type of person who complains and then buys. I loved Sword And Shield, despite the criticism. I loved X and Y despite the criticism. I'm totally buying Legends. I love Pokemon. But there is literally 0 reasons to buy this new "remake" over the original games. So why would I bother?
@@calistusjay60 What did you expect from the game.
@@just_op6983 I expected a remake of diamond and pearl that makes use of modern hardware to show it in a full 3D, explorable world. Eterna forest as a vast woodland. Jubilife city as a bustling metropolis. Mount Coronet as a towering dungeon. Not... the same game but less pretty bc there's no sprites.
@@just_op6983 "what did you expect" you are the kind of person that saw lets go eevee and pikachu and was astounded when you discovered they werent just a re-release of red and blue right?
a new era has begun: the Unova Confirmed era.
As a unova fan, I don’t want shitty remakes
@dry bones studios but it’s gonna be shit chibi remakes
Nooooo
"I don't think I want this"
“3 minutes ago”
Sleep deprivation has it’s benefits sometimes
these poor europeans, all the americans are getting this at a nice 3:00pm
It really does huh
This went over my head. Someone please EXPLAIN.
2:25 God that transition from RSE to ORAS really makes me sad for DP remakes :( that's exactly what I wanted just for Sinnoh
Hey *Tristan*
@Uncle Ho But this hit rock bottom.
@Uncle Ho ??? It look way worse than the 3ds games and Lets Go, even accounting the smaller resolution of the 3ds.
Yes the 2d looks better than anything 3D, but BDSP has to by far the worst artstyle for Pokemon I've seen.
@Uncle Ho This man just said it looks better than Let's Go...
@Uncle Ho Sun and Moon looked perfectly good
Smol Dawn gives me life. And I get to look at her throughout the entire game. I think my heart might explode.
That's how I feel! Everyone complaining but my heart's just uwuing
Same here. I don't get why people are mad
Ikr.
@@Placeholder_. because its ugly?
@@harrisonyates2223 How the heck do you think a world where all of the characters are Nendoroids is ugly?
So bummed and surprised. DP In lets go art style would’ve been amazing.
Pokémon legends (although using the “sinnoh” name), it is sinnoh before it was built up. So it will be open grassfields/nothing extremely recognizable. Pokémon legends doesn’t make up for diamond and pearl not getting a true remake with full proportion graphics
Many fans anticipated to see the sinnoh as they know it in a let’s go style graphic with full proportion overworld characters and Pokémon, follow/ride Pokémon.
It’s a bummer that this isn’t happening. They could have given us a modern let’s go graphic sinnoh for a new experience/true remake, and put the original DP on the eshop for people who want nostalgia.
I understand some like the chibi remaster, but many are disappointed this region isn’t getting a true remake that utilizes modern technology to upgrade us from the chibi visuals that were only present years ago because it was what we were limited to.
I hope DP gets a real remake one day. Pokémon legends will be amazing, but it’s a completely different region than sinnoh when it is built up.
“I want my big penguin”!
_Empoleon is a Water/Steel type Pokémon introduced in Generation 4. It is known as the Emperor Pokémon._
Honestly even just having a Sinnoh game where I don't have to speed up the emulator during battles is going to make me happy at this point
Yes! Even Platinum was kind of slow in battles! I like Pokémon Platinum, but even I have to agree that the slow battles are not a good thing! It especially gets annoying running from many wild Pokémon! A faster-running Sinnoh game would be great!
imagine playing on emulator
@@123stevehead that's pretty much the reason why a lot of people playing on emulators cause speed options.
@@123stevehead imagine playing Gen 4 on a DS where it takes 30 minutes for a Blissey's HP to go down
@@123stevehead imagine feeling superior for waiting 30 minutes so see an HP bar go down lmao
Let's Go is definitely a remake, just not what we're used to with pokemon remakes.
Let’s go doesn’t count.
Actually it's been confirmed to be it's own game, even though that doesn't make sense because Giovanni was still running team rocket.
Guys, it's a new game which has most of the elements of an old game but updated and with better graphics. It is literally the definition of a remake, even if it isn't a usual pokemon remake
It’s a remake/weird multiverse thing...
does anyone else prefer how pokemon looked with pixel sprites?
"WHAT KINDA PIPSQUEAK MOMENT-"
If they just did chibi characters like Oras no one would have a problem. Additionally these remakes do not look like the links awakening remake, open your eyes people
Lets go had the good “chibi” designs
I find it hilarious when people try to compare to Link’s Awakening. Just pull up a picture of them and contrast. It’s pretty obvious.
Its like Linksa awakening because it looks like the original game rather then updating it to look like newer entries in the series. Thats what we mean when we say that.
Because the Oras ones look good 💀
It isn't even chibi it's just fucking Duplo.
Now I can’t wait for the Unova remake hounding to immediately begin!
That region had 4 games right out the gate so wonder how they’ll do that.
I cant wait for pokemon z
Unova don't need remakes in my opinion they're perfect. Gen 3 needed remake cuz the mechanics and old pokemon movesets needed updates. Gen 4 kinda needed remake cuz it's pretty slow and the dex needs updating (2 fire types in dp, 1 if you didn't choose chimchar). B/W are great as is, even without older pokemon in the main story. B2/W2 are perfect they don't need anything more
@@Enzed_ gen 3 doesnt need a remake
They already made 1
I thunk x and y deserves z
imo bw and b2w2 are the best looking games. the moving sprites and the 3d were really nice and I don't want them to remake it in the 3D chibi aesthetic
I have a very soft spot for Sinnoh and it’s games as it was my first Pokémon in game I ever played. So when they announced remakes, I was ecstatic, then they showed the art and I was slightly let down. Like, I would have gladly waited a few more years if it meant better quality. Sorry if this sounds rude, but these are my thought.
I dont think you're being rude
BDSP is disappointing even for non sinnoh fans.
The gameplay is so similar to D/P to the point that im asking why bother if you have platinum? A game made ages ago?
They could have waited to make this a more finished game but they didn't. Honestly? Why bother with the remakes for now? Postpone it! Legends arceus is great enough, push the BDSP until they're ready! But they didnt and now we have this disappointing unfinished feeling game
Fans: "DIAMONDS AND PEARL REMAKES NOOOOOOW!"
ILCA: "K here ya go"
Fans: "Thanks I hate it"
I think that’s because most fan wanted new games in the universe of diamond and pearl, not an exact copy with odd graphics. Kind of like a B&W 2
@@chamallow989 no, we wanted areamke like oras
@@chamallow989 There IS a new game coming in the universe of Diamond and Pearl. It's called Pokémon Legends Arceus.
@@SanderEvers I know but that's not what I meant ! In Pokemon Legends we won't get the same characters, the same map, ... It's gonna be an entirely new game that's still in Sinnoh, but that's pretty much were the similarities end. The diamond and pearl games most people probably wanted was a game that's really close to the original ones but that brings something that can make them want to play it even though they already played the original games. It's pretty much what they did with OR/AS with the new graphics, the added episode at the end, the newest mechanics included into the game, new Megas, etc etc. Here, they did two games : One that is pretty much an exact copy with new graphics and one that is really really different.
Because is not even the same, honestly i would rather play platinum than the new remakes
As someone who lives in a super dimly lit house and sticks to very dark colors I’m very happy they seem to be going with darker tints but I know not everyone is a vampire like me.
Nah i get ya😹💙I like the cartoon style with realistic lighting kinda thing
i have a big problem with the saturation. i think id look nice if they just lowered that but kept it dark, would look decent
the problem isn't so much that it's dark, dark colors can look good. The saturation is weird, the color palette doesn't match well and it overall looks muddy. From an artist's perspective it just looks like there wasn't much thought put into the colors, I agree with Lucy. It doesn't bother me too much though im still very excited, the only thing that really bothers me overall is Barry's model xd
@@__loveball yeah Barry’s model really needs work.
Holy fucking cope
highlight of my evening- candyevie vid!!
"What kind of pipsqueek moment?!"
🤣
Oh my god this was randomly recommended for me and it’s so nostalgic because I used to watch this channel all the time when I was 10
Same. Now I’m 14 lol
When she said the word “gacha” I felt a chill go down my spine.
Me too
same
Why
@@neonroll2583 because I don’t want Pokémon to be associated with gacha life
@@martyc3447 Ok? There is nothing wrong with gacha tho, just *some* people in the community are toxic
o_o
Smol
SMOL
ONE OF US ONE OF US
I swear, I see you in EVERY comment section on any video
SMOL
We should call it the International Dex because we left the Japanese regions of Pokémon since Gen 5
"Get ready Unova fans, because in less than a year it's gonna be your turn to beg for remakes for the next 6 years." nah, gen 5 is already perfect as is
Gen 5 needs to be like legends Arceus and they could talk about N back in his days or go way back to the creation of the Dragons. It's my favourite and we need more.
No PKMN game is perfect IMO
@@okoder sadly yeah, but gen 5 us the closest we've got
Gen 5 games are one of the worst
@@jancyvargheese5351
B-b-based?!? 😳
Pokemon: *Doesn't have new outfits*
Luvie: Aight, I'ma head out. 8:48
When let’s go pikachu was a little newer, my cousin straight up just found a wild Zapdos just chillin in the air. Don’t know how he did it, but it happened.
same
When it was a little newer, a lot of shiny fails happened due to a stupid bug.
I found alot of legendary birds just flying while playing through the post game
Yeah that happens.
"What kind of pipsqueak moment" IM
BDSP is dangerously close to the word BDS-Marry.
And this isn't the first time, remember Pokémon S&M?
(Sun & Moon)
@@autobotstarscream765 What's S&M?
Well originally was DP so BDSP is not that weird
@@MochaFatTart your to young for that child.
@@MochaFatTart sun and moon
So people were saying that they didn't want Gen 4 remakes if they would look like Sword and Shield...
I hope that they are happy...
I am
i don't know who those people are, i would be really happy with SwSh graphics
I love the look of Sword and Shield and I was hoping it WOULD look like them, even if slightly updated/fixed in some ways. I just wanted a game that's part of the current generation, but set in an older region, to explore it again from a new perspective of a modern Pokémon game.
@@__loveball swsh might have looked good but the terrain and the Pokémon popping might have led people to believe it's trash
@@cybercery5271 it definitely had its issues that's true, but i loved the colors and art style
These games just feel...so lazy and sterile. As somebody else said, it's basically just a reskin of D/P from what little we can see. If this were made like HG/SS were over 10 years ago you can bet there'd be new routes, a butt ton of new features and more.
I don't see the greed for cramming in new stuff to improve on the originals, I only see the greed for nostalgia pandering, again.
It's a reskin? Have you seen some of the images on the website? There are actual cutscenes in the remake, and if anything the game looks more 3D than the original. The website says this:
"The story of Diamond and Pearl has been faithfully reproduced than the original.'
Focus on the story being the same. Not the postgame, Pokedex, or additional features. Just the story.
You're totally right. If it's just the same game but now with 3D what's the point of buying it?
People will be paying full price for basically a mod of a handheld game that probably will have less features.
They didn't even change the characters designs like they did in ORAS and HGSS.
@@nopatiencejoe6376 Well the underground has been confirmed for the remake, as well as probably contests.
@Wiley Midura The Virgin $60 4th Gen Remake Supporter VS The Chad Dastric/Demu Emulator Lover.
@@extinctwarriorrace1755 yeah but emulators are gotta get taken down so dont be a stupid child and accept that u cant always emulate everything
I think all of us reacted like that. My friend and i immediately thought "yeah, this is another modern videogame remake that's going to fuck up our happy memories".
Nostaligia is the worst thing to base criticism on.
@@GeteMachine You're right... You're so right...
You can still play the originals
I could honestly see the only difference in the Pokedex is that it is the Platinum Regional Dex + Sylveon because why would they include all the Eevee evolutions except Sylveon
if there is no fairy type then they wouldnt include sylveon 😳
I kinda hope we get Galarian evolutions as well. I did a Mime Jr Masuda to get ready for these remakes and now I don't know if I'll get to use Mr Rime...
@@Zacvh I don't see why they wouldn't include fairy type they included fairy type in Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire
I'm sure pokemon like clefairy will be updated to be fairy type but the let's go games didn't have sylveon so no shot this game does either
@@Zachanator1213 you never know though since they are really stressing "faithful recreation" in all the marketing so far so I do hope that there is a fairy type since thats kinda tied to megas in a way and I want those
Can't tell where his head ends and his hair begins? OMG! Barrie is a Simpsons character!
Lucy: I hope i'm good with predictions: Lucy in 2017: I hope weg et a region based on the UK
Gen 4 remake "smoll"
Me "if they do this to gen five I swear..."
The trailer reaction in a nutshell:
Yay sinnoh remakes!
Oh god WHAT DID THEY DO DO DAWN
WHY IS EVERYTHING SO DULL
OH NO
CandyEvie: I hope it would be more than a "Gacha" game
Me: *A horrible chill goes down to your spine*
*The Eater of Worlds has awoken!*
Reminds me of when wind waker released everyone bashed on the graphics and now everyone loves it
Even BW/BW2 and LGPE were bashed when they came out originally, but most people really do love them now. People are finicky..
Everyone wants to hate on stuff early to seem cool but change their minds either because its changed their mind or its cool to like something. Like going with the flow.
I barely ever change my opinions and its why I still haven't bought lets go cause they don't interest me.
and Links Awakening Remake, lesson here is, do not judge until you play it.
Eh kinda. Although while Wind Waker got hate because "It wasn't Twilight Princess's edgy realistic look" aka hate because of what came before, this is getting flack because of the game's that came after it. Tbh I think it's in reference to how chibitized the character models were in the original game.
Now let's talk about what everyone SHOULD be worried about:
How boring the story of Diamond/Pearl was.
Platinum majorly upped the story so I pray they go with that story.
@@abloodcorpse3318 uhm... Twilight Princess came after Windwaker. You got it the wrong way around.
If let’s go just had full wild battles it would be in my top 3 Pokémon games .
*Everyone:* I HATE CHIBI
*EVERY Pokemon Game except SM, USUM and SwSh:* who's gonna tell em?
Bruh it looks bad in 3d
They took it way too far, at the very least they should have done something like ORAS
@@mr.preston1632 too bad, babey mode
The 3d chibi is uggy lmao
The 2D doesn't transfer well into 3D
I think everyone had the exact same reaction to these games, lol. I'm still looking foward to it tho!!
Oh it's you! I know you! Hello!
@@Cheesyboi Hey!! 😁
I liked the cute visuals.
Smol Protagonists are something of value and precious.
I like the chibi artstyle (I mean, look at my pfp, it's simplistic.)
Same
I agree! I actually did think it looked kinda off when I saw the trailer but I didn't know why because I had nothing against chibis, but I totally agree with Evie that it's the colors. Hopefully that'll get changed so it's a bit easier on the eyes, but I do really like what they already have!
Barry and his hair-head is going to be the Jotaro hair-hat of this fandom
When I saw the trailer and the overworld showed up I totally went "ew."
I mean the trees don't look too bad. The houses are really....meh. What extremely bothers me are the tiny cliff thingies. They look incredibly off and awful. And the flowers. Why?
They look fine and your still going to buy the game no matter what you sound toxic and spoiled Pokemon fan from that anime profile picture alone
@@maplemiles3381 You’re*
@@maplemiles3381 Actually that profile picture is from 6 years ago. I'm sorry it offended you. And no, if I don't like the graphics of the game I am not going to buy it. I own a copy of Platinum for the Ds and will lovingly replay that. Thanks for your opinion.
did you see the game links awakening looks like that
The grass makes it look like eterna forest from dp but its everywhere
Smol Hilda?
Yeah, I'm down for that.
YES OMG! I thought i was the only one who noticed the lighting and colors! Theyre fart too dark and smudgy for me. Anyway great video per usual, loved the depth and all the topics you brought up.
I have to say that I was in the hesitation camp as well when I saw the first trailer. Though I found the new trailer has made me pull a 180. The colors feel a lot more vibrant and despite the chibi style, the characters seem a lot more expressive. I would love to hear CandyEvie opinion on the new trail.
See, I think the colors in the game are dull. And I'm lowkey disgusted by the human characters. I feel like nothing pops out and grabs hold my attention. And i really want to like this game, i really do! But I'm not going to drop $60 for a game i own already and find so much better in terms of aesthetics for a waterdown game. I'll wait till i get the verdict, but I've felt like the last couple of pokemon games have been let downs for me.... please don't be bad....
@Just a Piranha Plant with Internet Access people can complain, regardless of how much YOU spend on something. That aside, why do you have to spend 100 dollars?
@Just a Piranha Plant with Internet Access Ah, gotcha. that does suck
@Just a Piranha Plant with Internet Access lol, get it on the nintendo store for 60 instead
@Flari money there works different in scaling yes? So technically u spend the same? In the EU tripple A games are 55,- but thats in euros
Let’s go was more of a reimagining than a remake
I didn’t know that a different company was making the remakes.
Actually now that I think about it it makes sense
Same. I was wondering how GF was making two games at once.
They say it on the reveal
this is the same company that made yakuza 0
@Fabio Mora I wasn’t paying attention to it
@@timekeeperz9714 No that is false lol, they are a support company not a real gamedev at least not until quite recently.
Some people clearly don't use their brains.
As someone who does challenge runs on Platinum, which is also my favorite of all the Pokemon games I've played, I agree with you almost entirely. I fear that there will be no improvements on it at all by release and would honestly prefer if it was delayed to be improved to it's limit. Instead of the chibification I wish they had just gone for a retro 2D aesthetic if they were determined to do it this way. Still, woulda preferred Millenniumloops's version more. Ya should check out his Sinnoh concept trailer he made. He did such a better lookin' trailer in about a week alone -.- it breaks my heart that I can't play his version!
You've really made me think, I will now associate these remakes as a "remaster" instead. And you know what? It makes me feel better. ^_^
“my perfect thoughts about why mindy shouldn’t be in the remakes”
2) refer to 1
5) her head looks like lasagna
6) she is probably adopted
7) wouldn’t you like to know
8) she was abusing her haunter on her ***yfans
I still prefer the graphics other than the fact they look weird when they move, the sword and shield style graphics take away from making the games feel big because they simply don’t have enough time to make a world look so big with such complex graphics and 360 camera angles.
_EXACTLY_ my thoughts ...
It's just better when things are two dimensional ! You can manage proportions so much better and with the more powerful consoles they could make Kyorge Vs. Groudon look amazing without going 3D
Do you think they could?
@@seraphimsforge-master5433 But like... This is still 3D. And if you mean top-down rather than strict 2D, that's what the routes and towns were like in SwSh
@@tristanneal9552 Don't you think they could just do a two dimensional game and have that top down angled gameplay?!
I think they could and it would be a lot cooler as well because that's the OG feel of a Pokémon Overworld !
I think maybe once you get into battle ...you could have like Smash Ultimate graphics!
What do you reckon?
2.5D
@@tristanneal9552 issue is that even if that is the case, they would then have to make the towns double the size because the characters are double the size and they just don’t have time, take ballonlea for example, think about how much bigger that place would have felt if, 1, they had the characters at at lest x and y size and 2, had a top down camera view.
Gen 4 is the GOAT but lately in understanding how amazing Gen 5 was. Honestly, if they had the battle frontier, it would be the best Gen hands down.