1980: BUZZ ALDRIN - After the MOON LANDING | Change of Direction | Classic Interviews | BBC Archive
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- Buzz Aldrin - the second person to walk on the moon - talks to Ludovic Kennedy about his career with Nasa, and his struggles with mental health following his return to Earth.
Clip taken from Change of Direction, originally broadcast 4 March, 1980.
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I so miss the old BBC.
Amen to that.
I bet you two do
😂😂
Always admired his bravery but him being so open in a time when it wasn’t as normal. He has gone up even more in my estimations. My opinion here doesn’t matter much but I’m sure he feels good about himself which is really what matters. To provide that insight at that time means he must have learned a lot I think. Legend
It is normal that this miserable liar suffered from depression, anxiety and paranoia... You cannot deceive humanity and not have a guilty conscience.
Yeah seems such a shame that he’s now selling his autograph for a few dollars a pop…he’s done more book signings than NASA’s had missions to space!
@@dannyboy621 saying something like that shows what a peasant you are mate
@@jesus4400 Calling Aldrin a liar is pretty dumb, as his claims are backed up by tons of evidence. The moon landing deniers, on the other hand, have been exposed as liars over and over again. They are the deceivers here.
What an incredibly amazing man.
What an eloquent and interesting man, I enjoyed his openness and such a frank interview. It's nice to know that he still survives to this day. God Bless you Buzz!
Same here, check David Icke's book Human Race Get off your knees the Lion Sleeps no more, that I have translated in albanian...
As someone who suffers from several mental disorders, i love how vulnerable Buzz Aldrin is as he speaks about this. Extremely classy, intelligent, and graceful! We love you Buzz!
Understand where he is coming from. I have similarities with Buzz...although I had a troubled home life as a kid, which I've come to realize is where the lion's share of my future troubles came from. I was a career AF officer, nuclear ICBM crewmember ("Perfection is the standard"), then later a space operations crewmember (no mottos about perfection, but when the vehicles you are flying are each multi-billion dollar assets...the pressure to know the system cold and not screw up remains very strong), worked in the aerospace industry as a consultant, and got to a point where the pressure simply became too much for me to bear (thanks to an unexpected external set of events). That was in September 2018. I immediately entered therapy and dedicated myself to learning and healing (best thing that ever happened to me), and have kept at it. And I have had my battles self-medicating with alcohol. So it resonates with me. I can certainly empathize with what Buzz must have had to go through-- especially back in the 70s.
Buzz Aldrin is a very rare beast indeed: gung ho and brilliant (in no particular order).
If we could reverse or even reset the aging process for just one person in the entire world, I'd try to make an argument for Dr Aldrin every time.
I mean, someone has to take us to Mars. That is, someone brave enough to do it, and smart enough not to screw it up!
Correction. NO ONE "has" to take us to Mars @@Ingens_Scherz
@@scootertooter6874If this isn’t all smoke, that’s a hell of a career. Well done sir, well done.
Buzz Aldrin, fighter pilot, test pilot, astronaut, talking about mental health. Excellent.
he had an appearance in the comedy show 30rock, making fun of himself, yelling at the moon with liz lemon
@@tonyclifton265 awesome. tnks for the tip
He has some experience about mental health. This dude think he walked on the moon, so its nice of him to talk about the subject. 😂
@@Mega_Trond every aerospace engineer on Earth agrees with Buzz and says you're the crazy one
@@gives_bad_advice Do you really think, the cardboard lunar module landed on the moon? We dont know have to make a space-suit these days. Ops, sad that they throw away the Blueprint for the space-suit. we really need your grandmother's needle and sawing machine, to make some good suits.
6:09 He didn't blink for at least 17 seconds describing seeing the Earth from the moon. He's one cool cat and it's very entertaining listening to him talk.
Accessing the memorized script. Also looks down and away (mute) when LK mentions the dreaded trigger word. Land/landed/Landing.
@@MrMjolnir69 Oh my God!!! He looked down!!! AND away!!! I knew that meant something! I just didn't know what. Thank you for explaining. Without you, I would have thought it all just a dream.
“intellectually the earth appears 4 times bigger than the moon does to us” ?!?! script indeed!
It really was an incredible experience! I also miss the old BBC too!
"Magnificent desolation." Words spoken from the moon, by Edwin 'Buzz' Aldrin, July 1969.
he had script to learn
@@MrDaiseymayFilms in Hollywood use scripts.
@@toastedterps They also have a Hollywood studio at NASA.
@@MrDaiseymayAnd you need a new one. Grow up already.
@@toastedterps Moon landings filmed ON LOCATION.
Buzz Aldrin wrote a worthy book about the experiences that he describes in this interview: _Return to Earth_ (1973).
Yes I read that book it's a good read
In his book does he talk about the mission to the moon. Thanks
@@rockystelone21 , in _Return to Earth,_ yes, Buzz Aldrin talks about the flight of Apollo XI; but most of the book is taken up with the time _after_ Apollo XI, starting with the quarantine at NASA and then the worldwide tour. A lot of it is about the next few years, including other jobs he took on, alcoholism, trouble in his marriage, and his depression and the treatment for it. All this is just in a few years, the period from July 1969 to whenever the book was finished for publication in 1973.
@@rockystelone21 , PS. It's been some years since I've read it; but my recollection of the basis of a lot of the problems he had after Apollo XI is that it boiled down to "I have _been to the moon._ How am I ever gonna top _that?_ Nothing I do next can compare."
@@smadaf good point! Thanks
What a great guy , part of history but taking freely about feelings , which is even more remarkable when this interview was filmed
Legend and very interesting.
Was it filmed or taped?
He's been to the Moon with 32kb computer.
They had a 32kb computer and 500 Giga byte brains.......😊
Exactly😂
Yeah and now with all the advancements in technology we can’t get there? That’s because we never did go there!
30. 30 kb even. 😂
@KimSenior the Russians begrudgingly acknowledged NASA's achievement of going to the moon and congratulated them as they knew it had happened due to lunar based radio transmissions they intercepted. Go back to bed you absolute numpty, find a conspiracy theory with a shred of credibility
What a great interview of a great man. His candor is admirable. I needed to hear that…
It is normal that this miserable liar suffered from depression, anxiety and paranoia... You cannot deceive humanity and not have a guilty conscience.
What.a great interview by a man who put his life on the line in the cause of science and advancement of mankind's understanding of the cosmos. The risks taken by the Apollo astronauts living and working in the vacuum of space with just millimetres of protection don't bear thinking about. I had the privilege of meeting Buzz at the Leicester space centre many years ago and he was a great speaker and very modest about his part in the Apollo program.
It is normal that this miserable liar suffered from depression, anxiety and paranoia... You cannot deceive humanity and not have a guilty conscience.
😂😅😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Buzz seems very honest about his trouble with all the attention after the Moon Landing.
As he says, the crew were just the men who landed on the Moon because that was where the Apollo program was at that time. Some perfectly capable astronauts between others - it was just their turn.
And Aldrin is/ was a serious, hardworking dedicated engineer and test pilot.
Not hard to imagine how all the focus gave him trouble. He wasn’t a pop star seeking attention...
I read his PhD thesis, loved it
Dr Rendezvous 🙂
Such an amazing interview. Buzz answered every question with such thought and straight forwardness. I loved his answers to every question.
I've learned something from this interview. I was in the camp of thinking depression was something people experienced because they couldn't handle everyday life and they should "get a grip". How wrong was I. My bad
It can be both. Here to help.
Psychiatry pushed by bigfarma, no such thing as depression, it's people who flourish in this rotten world who need to have their heads examined.Loneliness is no 1 malady.
Hey nice to hear and honest comment on the Tube - someone who can admit they perhaps had the wrong idea on something, and who is open minded enough in the first place to accept that possibility. It's an increasingly rare trait these days. Fair play to ya 👍
I agree potential financial gain has impacted the idea and influence and understanding of depression - and not for the best. But it certainly does exist. People may differ on the name, method of dealing with it etc...but it's very real. Of course it's not simply black and white - there is a huge variation in it's severity. Sadly, there are now so many people just having a bad day or week, and adopting the term/excuse, that it devalues and drowns out the folk who are genuinely dealing and living with it.
@@godsoneus Thank you
Buzz and all others associated with Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and all other NASA projects, were and still are amazing people.
What a great interview! Thanks for posting this.
I’ve just learned when on the surface of the moon, you would need to look up to see earth in the same way you look up to see the moon.
Thank you for the support I received in dealing with some very cruel comments about the reality of Buzz Aldrin having walked on the moon. This man, along with Neil Armstrong and Michael Collins put there lives on the line in making the hazardous journey to the moon and back and deserve nothing other than praise for their historic achievement.
Their lives.
A great interview with a great man.
His deadpan comment abut talking with the President cracks me up.
What an incredible thing to watch, fantastic interview and so amazingly genuine.
What an eloquent and succinct guy.
Fantastic interview
He ended up in a Christchurch, New Zealand hospital as i flew in,i thought about visiting him...i still regret not trying! :)
The one and only Buzz
I know they were all hardcore test pilots with athletic fitness, but quite a few of the Apollo astronauts did comment on how violent the shaking was during a Saturn V launch.
The Apollo 8 crew got quite a shock because they hadn’t been warned. It was one of the few issues not predicted by the designers.
I don't think there were two launches of a Saturn 5 that were identical. Some Apollo astronauts say that the noise at launch was unbelievably loud. Others say the noise wasn't so bad but the vibrations were. A lot were concerned about the outboard engines rocking the stack around so close to the launch tower. Some flights suffered from bad pogo oscillations, others didn't.
In Al Worden's book, Falling To Earth, he mentions how some Apollo astronauts were uneasy crossing the access arm to the white room and Command Module because it was so unnatural to be so high up with just a metal grate underneath them. He said that some of their gloved hands gripped the railing like a vice...
8 was the first to moon, hell of feat that goes uncared for.
So appreciate what these guys did. My brother and I religiously watched every launch from mercury to Apollo. We were kids completely enamored. My Brother Became a physiologist and as it turns out studied under the guy who originally tested those mercury astronauts. He got his PhD from University of Illinois Champaign Urbana. He ended up working at NASA and does it experimentation in major work with the physiology of astronauts on the space shuttle program. There was a mixup and then he ended up at the CDC but those were great years for him. I would’ve loved to have done something like that but as it turned out I had dyscalculia which Was not diagnosable back in the day. so I thought I was too stupid but as it turns out I had a really high IQ ha ha ha ha. I just couldn’t do numbers without turning them all around. I really like how he saw his fellow astronauts as very equal to him and that being the first man on the moon was just a matter of timing. I think I also had an idea back then the thieves were super pilots who were looking at this as just another figure faster affair for them to take on. I really love that. They were my heroes back then as a kid and still are😊 And I’m about to turn 70.
I should have double checked after voice. Siri makes some really crazy mistakes like Theives😆 honestly
Can't believe that some lessons i had to learn the hard way are right here ... in a short interview with Buzz from 1980.
Amazing interview! Learned the hard way about imposter syndrome and depression similar myself.
Thank you Buzz for reminding us that we are all just human! And deeply sorry for the unnecessary spotlight on you and wife.
Back in the days when the BBC was worth watching.
A TRUE AMERICAN HERO along with The Late Apolllo astronauts ! Salute To Buzz Part of first MIT grad class
Que manera tan natural de hablar de sus emociones. Excepcional documento que muestra la humanidad de éste hombre… gracias 🙏 thank you very much
Nadie fue a la Luna.
Despierta!!!!!!!
Such great and honest messages. Thanks, Buzz.
How powerful is it when a man who has been to the moon admits he feels and battles the exact anxieties you do?
Legend.
My heart goes out to this guy. Can totally relate to the combination of feelings and pressure, from suddenly being one of the most famous people on Earth and for one time truly having to live with a possible feeling of AntiClimax. Thankfully he came through it.
Yeah--his father put a ton of pressure on him and made him feel bad for not being the first man on the moon. His mother also suffered depression and actually killed herself if memory serves.
Absolute legend!
Great chat, very open and honest 👍
This is precious. Since the moon is 1.2% earth mass, you can feel it is round. It is the first time I hear about that. You really have to experience it to realize that. Wow I always tell my students the reason earth is round is because of the curvature of spacetime, but Aldrin just said he experienced it.
He said you can *see* the curvature. And he's right: this is obvious in Apollo photos.
@@zounds010 True, I checked but it is difficult to realize that without a gauge (the Earth covers 2 degrees in the sky, much bigger than the moon on Earth, that too is difficult to realize). What he said is that it was difficult to be sure they were straight up, that is they were not sure what was vertical. This is because with only 1/6 Earth gravity, our natural gauge is not balanced. That again you can only realize by directly experimenting it. This is really somebody that went to another world.
Fascinating
Don't kill Buzz, please! 🙂
“It struck me as odd that we were going to have to stop what we were doing to take a call from the POTUS
haha loved that one.
What are you, 7 years old? You don;t think the first Moon landing deserved recognition, or are to too stupid to understand a radio link?
He makes a lot of sense in this interview. Explaining his depression etc. this puts some of his recent behaviour in context. Must have had a lot of pressure on him after his return from the moon. 🌙
What an amazing man!
If Dr Aldrin ever decided to become a British subject (who knows why he would, but you never know), he'd instantly be titled with something like "Earl Aldrin of Tranquility".
I think Britain should change its nationality rules, just this one time, and give him this title regardless!
😂
I loved Buzz from the first moment I heard about him getting in trouble for punching a moon landing denier. I’m sure he didn’t feel the same way I did at time but it was a learning experience for both of us. Here I am, decades later, listening to his struggles and learning from him again. I wish I could thank him in person, have a chat and a laugh but I wouldn’t want to intrude on his privacy.
Love him tons
Giant of a man.
He was so different here compared to later years.
How so?
@@JamesKonzek-xr5zy Much more stoic and reserved. Nowadays he's more eccentric and outspoken
I met him once in Paris, in a conference with fellow French astronauts. Great guy. Very relaxed. He was wearing a Hawaian shirt and tons of rings around his fingers. 100% different from his very serious appearance in this 1980 interview. He was kind of body-guarded by his girl-friend of the time. I think that this was shortly before he appeared in the TV show "Dancing with the Stars" in 2010.
Any rings big and skull-like?
Buzz is as tough as it gets, A true American hero….!!!!
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Great interview!
Im surprised i havnt seen this or birnt brain cells..great interview hes a hek of a man....he knows more
An absolute gentleman - incisive interview.
He punched Bart Sebrel when Bart proved him a liar.
Pls explains how that was proved?
@@JamesSmith-qs4hx How did he prove him a liar pray tell?
@@gunternetzer9621 Watch - A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon...... 🤔🤔🤔
@@jacqo817 Watch - Astronauts gone Wild...... 🤔🤔🤔
he was a peak human at his time. his gemini 12 eva was awessome
He's still working on future mission design plans, his mind is awesomely powerful.
I could listen to this man all day. What a hero.
Buzz, the Man, the Myth, the Legend. 🙏🏻
Why are you calling him a myth and a legend? He is real, not fake.
He's talking about the landing.
@@neilarmstrongsson795 ahahahaha
... the Liar 😱
Authentic
Dr Rendezvous!
Thank you for sharing you experiencia Buzz, we love you!
12:29 The meaning of life, right there
Great interview.
Idiot 😂
What a great interview.
Buzz.. courage, talent, focus. These test pilots/astronauts loved adventures and not caring for risks, only the mission.
Amazing man!
Buzz we luv ya.
I can see how landing on the moon and coming back then facing large groups would make Buzz unsettled. I wouldn't have wanted to be paraded around as a hero either.
I also have perfection disorder and realized that I have to settle for the best I can do.
Some people call me MacGyver and say I can fix anything. I tell them, like Samuel Clemens did about his reported death, that the rumors of my abilities are greatly exaggerated. I heard that one gentleman from India thought I was genius that I could do a project with out drawings. No just experienced.
Buzz was just doing his job.
Obviously the interviewer is way over his head. The first crew didn't die on the launch pad on their mission to go around the moon.
That man is a legend
He found the soul harvester
Crazy
So Marvel got the slogan "Faster, Higher, Further" for Captain Marvel from Buzz Aldrin 🤯
Handsome Hero
3.44 - We are on stage......I played that role.......
Because it's all a play.
Maybe one of the best Buzz interviews I’ve ever seen.
How it feels to not click on the reply section under comments talking about the moon landing
I found the end of this video to be very revealing.
I admire Buzz Aldrin above Neil Armstrong. It was Buzz who kept them on course for the moon landing (under incredible pressure).
HERO
Engineer, test pilot, fighter pilot, astronaut, moonwalker, writer, dancer.
"Nothing special" 1:34 One guy who kept getting out of scrapes just before the became mortal and the other guy who could dock and get home by lining up behind his thumb is a special crew. And the guy waiting for them back in the ride home was an all time great second seat.
Standing on the moon, looking around and really thinking about where you are could be overpowering for some people. The first few minutes you might close your eyes and tell yourself "relax, one step at a time". Nevermind the thousand different ways to die.
Sounds like the truth was eating you alive. Tell the truth it will set you free, I hope you do 🙏💯
did your mother tell you the truth that you were accidentally created in a back street porn movie that she starred in...
10:00 The Overview effect is described.
Never knew he became agoraphobic after being on the Moon. It does make sense though. I love Buzz and I follow him on Facebook 🎉🎉
Thanks for this..Gemin 12 toured NZ in the early 70's and Buzz Aldrin visited was a crew member on that flight and I was just a kid and Buzz Aldrin visited NZ in 2010 and spoke about his experience ON the Moon and in space and I was in awe!👍🚀🇳🇿
The Right Stuff
Indicates that it's the good stuff, rather than the right stuff, that really matters.
7:04..Luncheon..sounds like a city in South Korea 😅😅
I wish the moon landing and flat earth conspiracists could just talk to him in person...
The biggest one tried. He got cracked in the teeth 😂
@@justinholmes5614 Exactly. 😉
But then I wouldn't wish the hassle on Buzz. Let him live in peace. He deserves it.
Talking to conspiracy nuts and showing them evidence doesn't work. Deniers always gotta deny, no matter what the verifiable facts say. They're on an ego trip and they won't let little things like facts stop them. Moon landing deniers have got a lot of their ego invested in perpetuating their stories.
He’ll always be Dr. Rendezvous
You can tell, he really went to the moon.
You could if there were photos, movies or videos of him with the Earth in the same shot, like the one's of him on the Gemini missions.
You can?
I’ll admit he seems very credible. Especially when compared to Neil Armstrong. But he did honestly describe the situation with the subsequent circus as “having to tell people what they wanted to hear”. If he’d really been, I don’t think that would have been a concern, he’d have just rattled off the truth and not cared about how it was perceived.
Also, feelings of inadequacy?? When you’ve personally achieved the greatest feat mankind has ever achieved? Or could it have been because he’s under orders to repeat a huge lie over and over?
@@5piral0utI’ll tell you one thing. I would NOT have wanted to be dragged around for weeks and put on stage to answer the same questions over and over and over..you have very little insight into how people’s minds worked. No man who worked in his profession would think of being forced to tell lies. He’d be more likely to say, look guys, things didn’t work out. Let’s see what happens with the next mission. Those guys spout factual information naturally. It’s how they’re trained.
@@shaunrobertson1064 which is why I’d argue he had his breakdown. And Neil became a recluse.
Great man. Though Ed is a perfect man, he learned to be a not always perfect man.
For Buzz I think luck played a big roll. Very intelligent man and competent astronaut but had it not been for the deaths if the original Gemini 9 crew he wouldn't have been on Gemini 12. His first flight most likely would have been on one of the later Apollo flights and possibly as a Command Module pilot. It was his rendezvous and docking experience from Gemini 12 that landed him Apollo 11...
Beautiful ❤️
It blows my mind these World Heros did this in 1969!
Hoax
they may have been high echelon people but no one landed on the moon if they had , youd be going on vacation there by now
@@vincec3773 By your (let's be generous and call it) 'reasoning' there's no such place as Patagonia, as you've never been there yourself.
@@vincec3773 Are you slow or something ? We've been to the challenger deep a few times already too... Do you go on vacation there ? The Apollo mission took 400 000 people involved to make the program work and was one of the most expensive missions in human history. Try do that in today's world with the inflation rate and NASA's much more reduced annual budget from income tax. They can still go there if they want but then they are going to bankrupt themselves for a couple years to go to the moon and do what exactly ? Going to the moon holds no value to us and goodluck maintaining a moon base in it's clearly harsh elements going back and forth to the moon everytime. you guys don't use your head. That's the problem. You're either listening to your friends over actual scientists or you are "thinking for yourself" on a subject you know nothing about to begin with. Which is backwards logic.
@@vincec3773 Well, ain't you a slow one. We've been to the challenger deep a few times already too... Do you go on vacation there ? The Apollo mission took 400 000 people involved to make the program work and was one of the most expensive missions in human history. Try do that in today's world with the inflation rate and NASA's much more reduced annual budget from income tax. They can still go there if they want but then they are going to bankrupt themselves for a couple years to go to the moon and do what exactly ? Going to the moon holds no value to us and goodluck maintaining a moon base in it's clearly harsh elements going back and forth to the moon everytime. you guys don't use your head. That's the problem. You're either listening to your friends over actual scientists or you are "thinking for yourself" on a subject you know nothing about to begin with. Which is backwards logic.
So nice to read the comments on a space topic without it being polluted by low-IQ flat earthers and moon landing deniers.
I can imagine it was particularly hard for Buzz as everyone would be comparing him to Neil Armstrong, who, if he had any internal concerns, kept it to himself.
To me he is the most interesting of all of the Apollo astronauts. A very intelligent and complex man.
Complex in his lies.
@@gardencornrobber : LOL. No, son. I get that you're jealous of many people in life but that's your choice of being uneducated.
Yes and punching Bart just cemented his position in Apollo lore. Loved that.
What about the Craft that were parked on the edge of the Crater ! "Those Babies are Huge" I believe was the Transmission ! Aldrin Relayed ! 🌚
There was no such transmission. You have been lied to.
You're a gullible rube.
Capricorn One great movie.