any idea what a battery this size would cost to just buy? was wondering about how much its worth to build vs buy..also what price would make sense vs what some may charge
I feel you bro on that one.... you could clean it up yes, but it's an ever changing process which I happen to love doing it will eventually be all nice and tight on your time!😎
I have a really similar one, just a different balancer and custom Buss bars but I’m not sure why it won’t charge? I have a 400 alt with a power wire going to it and it won’t charge past 13.2
Hey man, i just got a 64ah headway bank. I currently have 3 agm batteries and a xs power super cap and getting bad voltage drops. So i bought the headway. Should i just take out the 2 agm inside and leave the super cap with the headway? And keep agm under the hood obviously. Any help is appreciated. I have a stock alternator as well. So what configuration should i use?
What does your alternator charge your cells to? Im trying to come up with a fast way to charge my 96ah headway module after discharging it with a inverter while camping and stuff
@Mark Woods thank you, hopefully my alternator holds up ti the task! There's no bms to mess anything up just a balancer so I'm thinking it should be fine
@@markwoods212 😲 any issues? How do they handle the alternator charging? I just got 12 cells today, building a Harley battery that will also double as my stereo battery.
@@manuelperez4130 I got you make sure its at least charging at 13.5 to 14.9 volts check the bank every two weeks if possible the cells do go bad after a good while.
thanks for the information....I have the nvx XAD16...8000rms??? and I was wondering if I had to buy an extra super beast, but because of your channel it seems one hopefully might be enough.....hopefully
@@markwoods212 no did you delete the auxiliary battery for the start/stop? I have the same car 2021 and I’m running 80ah yinlong and 390 alt with my factory lead battery, but the lead is draining my lithium
@@greggmoultrie2009 No I didn’t eliminate my battery and my car is a 2015 but I’ll advise you to eliminate the lead battery and you should be fine my car came with agm battery and agm works well with headway but ying long works well by itself with 15 plus voltage.
I definitely like my 96ah headway bank, it's perfect considering my amp makes rated at 12.8v. I will say that the 64ah bank I had before I built this 96ah ran my 8k really well.
I’m having trouble understanding amp hours. So my alt does 240 amps and my taramps smart 3k pulls 150 amps I think. so I subtracted both numbers and got 90 ah, so do I need only 90 ah or Do I need to double it to 182 ah to play for 2 hours.
Very satisfied with my '64 amp hour lithium. I have another box balancer bars about to start another 64 amp hour and do a battery delete up front 👍🏿 but the AGM still holding it down for me up front 😁
Id never delete the battery upfront, at least not on a vehicle you drive on the regular. Reason being you're not supposed to jump start a vehicle lithium batteries, so if your battery runs low you're stuck with paying to have it towed home. I keep my AGM under the hood
Just put fuses on all the wires to the battery. My Hook up guy taught me " you fuse it or lose it. Fuses can and will save the day . If you do it right
@@myrontaylor77, it's not just the wiring. The battery itself is not enclosed. The aluminum plates are energized, exposed, and fractions of an inch from each other. If anything conductive bridges those plates it's going to be bad. just dropping something like a car key, a coin, or a hand tool on it is going to send molten metal flying all over the place. That battery has enough amperage to vaporize any metal that causes a short very much like a welder, but all at once and uncontrolled. Obviously, anyone near that could end up with bad burns, missing limbs, eye damage, or just plain dead.
I'm going to take your advice which haltech balancer did you buy... I will be buying the super beast 24 volt system and of course turning it into the 12 volt 96 amp hour system
You not getting any performance out of that lithium with those tiny jumpers lol.. my man got 0g wire to the buss bars and then 22g wire bridging the bars together lol.. how those jumpers haven’t melted blows my mind
@@drvictoria07 yes I use a input converter by using the speaker wires from the head unit then ran all rcas from the converter to the amps plus I had to use splitters
I have ninety-six hours of headway. On a 8K I will say it does the job but I sure wish I would have went a different route and went with a different chemistry. I wish I would have purchased C-Max. But I guess we live and learn....
Lol no you dont. You arent clamping 10k on that bank and i bet you have huge voltage drop. Even with a 400a alt, 96ah is capable of handling 10k max, not rms. That is at the limits of a 96ah headway bank, i know for a fact. You laugh cause you know you drop into low 13s, high 12s and pushing that bank to the limits.
There is nothing wrong with the headway cells, keep doing your thing, just so you know everyone had to start out somewhere. Just to let you know the headway cells out perform the first JY batteries and Limitless when they used the A-123 cells.
Limitless still uses a123. But most they have is 56ah retro, cyber 12k is like 45ah, so of course a 96ah headway outperforms, match the ah bank size and headway doesnt outperform. Headway is the weakest lithium for car audio.
Those balancer fails...the light shoud be on whene its on....12.5 is too low...if ou check each cell row you may find a voltage difference....mine ijuat changed out 2 headway units...1 was leaking ....the other depleted...so I'm replacing it with a 350 amp balancer
Apparently, you're running a stock alternator? Stock alts dont charge hardly anything at idle. Something like 50 amps while an after market one will triple that. And at 1200 rpm be putting out full amps. Different lithium chemistry will result in different power curves. Say the headway is made to be work with a normal car charging system of 12.8- 14.4 volts while cmax needs 14.8-16.8 volts. Lot of guys with cmax run a seperate alternator system to get the 16.8 volts. Also looks like you had just 1 ground wire on the bank? Thats a good sized amp prob a 5k? Im running a 40AH different chemistry with stock alt on a 5k and it dips into the 12s pretty quick. Got another system with a 5k and a mechman 320 alt and it hardly moves the voltage.
@@markwoods212 I have an 07 JGC, I was thinking of putting my battery bank and amps in the same location but decided to put them in the rear basically for safety reasons and i m thinking i want to wall mine off behind the C-pilar. Im not running lithium, 2-140ah agms and a couple ioxus ultracaps, only 1 is installed currently tho and i dont have any voltage drop running 2 teampie tp-2504's. I am debating on lithium just to save space so i can add the other two 2504's and the other two ultimax 18's and build a wall.
any idea what a battery this size would cost to just buy? was wondering about how much its worth to build vs buy..also what price would make sense vs what some may charge
About 400 if you buy the bars they’re called bus bars you’ll be able to find the headways everywhere you’ll need 24 of them
I feel you bro on that one.... you could clean it up yes, but it's an ever changing process which I happen to love doing it will eventually be all nice and tight on your time!😎
You right in time it would come together
I have a really similar one, just a different balancer and custom Buss bars but I’m not sure why it won’t charge? I have a 400 alt with a power wire going to it and it won’t charge past 13.2
Wow I wish I known but maybe you need regulator on the alternator and the headways are known to charge low in the summer time.
Hey man, i just got a 64ah headway bank. I currently have 3 agm batteries and a xs power super cap and getting bad voltage drops. So i bought the headway. Should i just take out the 2 agm inside and leave the super cap with the headway? And keep agm under the hood obviously. Any help is appreciated. I have a stock alternator as well. So what configuration should i use?
Yes you can try that and it should be good for almost 8k
What does your alternator charge your cells to? Im trying to come up with a fast way to charge my 96ah headway module after discharging it with a inverter while camping and stuff
14.5 on idle
@Mark Woods thank you, hopefully my alternator holds up ti the task! There's no bms to mess anything up just a balancer so I'm thinking it should be fine
@titoham-DCXLs 🤣 ok man, thanks for the tip
Are you running a battery management system, aside from the balancer?
No all I run is one balancer
@@markwoods212 😲 any issues? How do they handle the alternator charging? I just got 12 cells today, building a Harley battery that will also double as my stereo battery.
@@manuelperez4130 I got you make sure its at least charging at 13.5 to 14.9 volts check the bank every two weeks if possible the cells do go bad after a good while.
How much total watts are you supporting with the 48ah bank?
Probably 5k watts
Cool man. I tried to find you on Facebook and couldnt
@justinbyrd8401 my name is Marcus Woodfork on Facebook
Can you run this with stock battery? Or do i need to completely disconnect stock battery
@@bryson1992 Yes you can
Just ordered some 48ah bars from ill customz to build a headway bank to support a pair of audio legion 1600s.
Sounds good Brother
thanks for the information....I have the nvx XAD16...8000rms??? and I was wondering if I had to buy an extra super beast, but because of your channel it seems one hopefully might be enough.....hopefully
Yeah just get the beast that cost 225 and you’ll get 96ah
Bro what did you do with the aux battery for the start/stop
If you’re talking about the remote wire it’s hooked up to the 12volt plug in the back of the hatch
@@markwoods212 no did you delete the auxiliary battery for the start/stop?
I have the same car 2021 and I’m running 80ah yinlong and 390 alt with my factory lead battery, but the lead is draining my lithium
@@greggmoultrie2009 No I didn’t eliminate my battery and my car is a 2015 but I’ll advise you to eliminate the lead battery and you should be fine my car came with agm battery and agm works well with headway but ying long works well by itself with 15 plus voltage.
I definitely like my 96ah headway bank, it's perfect considering my amp makes rated at 12.8v. I will say that the 64ah bank I had before I built this 96ah ran my 8k really well.
That’s what’s up brother gives me confidence cause I’m planning on getting a 8k with 96ah lithium
@@markwoods212 that's gonna be awesome 👍🏿
@@markwoods212 go for it bro, it's a great combo!
What kind of alt do you have ?
@@xXxREDEEMEDxXx-yc9ne power bastards 250 +
I’m having trouble understanding amp hours. So my alt does 240 amps and my taramps smart 3k pulls 150 amps I think. so I subtracted both numbers and got 90 ah, so do I need only 90 ah or
Do I need to double it to 182 ah to play for 2 hours.
Sounds like you’re OK with the alternator do you have a second battery?
@@markwoods212 no, currently I’m using my agm car battery. I was just needing to know if I got my math right so I can build me a headway bank.
@@TKO-FentLacedBigMac Yeah you have enough amp hours but a lithium bank would be good to have
@@markwoods212 yea
Very satisfied with my '64 amp hour lithium. I have another box balancer bars about to start another 64 amp hour and do a battery delete up front 👍🏿 but the AGM still holding it down for me up front 😁
That’s the good thing about headway lithium you can use agm but a battery delete would be nice
@@markwoods212 I'll have it ready by spring🤞🏿
Id never delete the battery upfront, at least not on a vehicle you drive on the regular. Reason being you're not supposed to jump start a vehicle lithium batteries, so if your battery runs low you're stuck with paying to have it towed home. I keep my AGM under the hood
hey bro do you got the stock alternator
Yes I have a stock alternator
Cut a piece of plastic/plexiglass:to cover the top of the headway bank .
System looking good!
Thank you Brother for the advice
Did you delete the under hood battery?
No I was going to try it but the engine started running bad
As in electrical bad or mechanical
@Headhuncho621 mechanical
@Headhuncho621 I never figured out how to do a battery delete yet but I will try it soon as I get a chance
Cool, do you have an upgraded alternator
Stock alternator
Nice video. How do you charge it ? By alternator directly or at home by AC power supply ? TIA
Either way is cool
@markwoods212 Is it safe to charge by alternator directly ? It won't get fried? That's whY they made DC-DC charger
@@amerkhafagiable it’s going to charge off the alternator as soon as you hook it up
@markwoods212
But they said, "You can't use an alternator to charge lithium battery directly as IR of battery is too low. Hence, alternator may burn".
@@amerkhafagiablethe batteries are rated to charge 300+ amps continuous so he good on stock alt
Your highs sound great what are they? I have 128 ah in back and d3400 up front. Headway works
Thank you and I have 2 prv 6x9 2 Timpano 6.5 bullets 4 super tweeters 3.5 power by the Jensen 1k
How many watts will a 192 ah bank support with a 270 Ohio Gen and a 370 singer alts?
@@FinsleysCustomCarAudio 10 to 15k
Setups like these bother me as a electrician…You’re just one little “accident” away from a nasty short..
I’m working on changing it right now as we speak
I have seen these go up in flames you must be careful
Just put fuses on all the wires to the battery. My Hook up guy taught me " you fuse it or lose it. Fuses can and will save the day . If you do it right
@@myrontaylor77, it's not just the wiring. The battery itself is not enclosed. The aluminum plates are energized, exposed, and fractions of an inch from each other. If anything conductive bridges those plates it's going to be bad. just dropping something like a car key, a coin, or a hand tool on it is going to send molten metal flying all over the place. That battery has enough amperage to vaporize any metal that causes a short very much like a welder, but all at once and uncontrolled. Obviously, anyone near that could end up with bad burns, missing limbs, eye damage, or just plain dead.
I love my headways I’m running a hcca 8000.1 on zv5-18s crazy power and it’s holding over a 100ah
That’s what’s up Brother
one of these headways super beasts will hold 8000 watt rms???
No you’ll need the one that has 96ah to cover 8k
@@markwoods212the super beast IS 96ah
@@ruthless378 Yes after conversion
I got a 64ah one in mine. Invest in a heltec balancer. Way better than those 1.2a ones! You got a high output alt?
Well, guessed u answered that one lol. That makes a big difference!
@@1ohmwrecker What’s up Scott but no I don’t have a high input alternator yet but planning on getting one soon
Awesome thanks because I have the same 1 from Parkers how to video 😁
I'm going to take your advice which haltech balancer did you buy... I will be buying the super beast 24 volt system and of course turning it into the 12 volt 96 amp hour system
can you charge it to 15 v
@@djjermagicstick It charges to 13.3 as it stands if you’re talking about being idle in a car at 15 volts yes
You not getting any performance out of that lithium with those tiny jumpers lol.. my man got 0g wire to the buss bars and then 22g wire bridging the bars together lol.. how those jumpers haven’t melted blows my mind
Awesome my G 💯. How did you connect all your RCA cables? Did you have to get a RCA distribution block?
I use a input converter it’s from Walmart very basic
@@markwoods212 I'm talking about like your RCA cables from your amplifiers and head unit.
@@drvictoria07 yes I use a input converter by using the speaker wires from the head unit then ran all rcas from the converter to the amps plus I had to use splitters
I have the same setup I'm trying do my balance
I got a video showing how to do the balancer and there’s other videos
I have ninety-six hours of headway. On a 8K I will say it does the job but I sure wish I would have went a different route and went with a different chemistry. I wish I would have purchased C-Max. But I guess we live and learn....
Yeah we live and learn but headway is still the best budget option hands done but not the best option period
What was the reason you wished you had gone with another chemistry? What was lacking in the headway for you?
@titoham-DCXLswhat is c rate.
I put liquid tape on my bus bars and put a Christmas blanket over it. I have jag35 lev60F 148ah batteries though
@@lacboiatl sounds good 👍
Ive got 96ah of headway on 10k rms, its does good!
That’s what’s up Brother
Lol no you dont. You arent clamping 10k on that bank and i bet you have huge voltage drop. Even with a 400a alt, 96ah is capable of handling 10k max, not rms. That is at the limits of a 96ah headway bank, i know for a fact. You laugh cause you know you drop into low 13s, high 12s and pushing that bank to the limits.
@@FuckUA-camCensorship2024 hahahahahahaha and again hahahahahahahahahahahaha
There is nothing wrong with the headway cells, keep doing your thing, just so you know everyone had to start out somewhere. Just to let you know the headway cells out perform the first JY batteries and Limitless when they used the A-123 cells.
Thanks for the information brother I didn’t know that and thanks for the encouragement
@titoham-DCXLshow many ah are the batteries though, he had stock alt in video so the bigger capacity is helping his setup.
Limitless still uses a123. But most they have is 56ah retro, cyber 12k is like 45ah, so of course a 96ah headway outperforms, match the ah bank size and headway doesnt outperform. Headway is the weakest lithium for car audio.
Working on my system now....cp
Keep me posted
Those balancer fails...the light shoud be on whene its on....12.5 is too low...if ou check each cell row you may find a voltage difference....mine ijuat changed out 2 headway units...1 was leaking ....the other depleted...so I'm replacing it with a 350 amp balancer
Thank you for the advice brother and yes I have a few bad cells
I dont like headway. Still drops. Its built to do just that. Its built to drop n then plateau. Called flat discharge.
Thanks for the honest feedback
We know it's you ICE T 😂👍🏽
Apparently, you're running a stock alternator? Stock alts dont charge hardly anything at idle. Something like 50 amps while an after market one will triple that. And at 1200 rpm be putting out full amps.
Different lithium chemistry will result in different power curves. Say the headway is made to be work with a normal car charging system of 12.8- 14.4 volts while cmax needs 14.8-16.8 volts. Lot of guys with cmax run a seperate alternator system to get the 16.8 volts.
Also looks like you had just 1 ground wire on the bank?
Thats a good sized amp prob a 5k? Im running a 40AH different chemistry with stock alt on a 5k and it dips into the 12s pretty quick. Got another system with a 5k and a mechman 320 alt and it hardly moves the voltage.
Thanks for the honest feedback brother
Awesome 👍. How many ah is your lithium battery bank?
Thanks 48 ah
@@markwoods212 Yes sir. That's the super beast right? How many watts does your battery bank support my G?
@Erik Victoria the superbeast is 96ah
Im finna do battery delete in my navigator and put 144 ah in back for my two 2 15s
Sounds great brother keep me posted
@@markwoods212 i got you brother
Change the injectors and it will run why better when it's cold
Thanks for the advice appreciate it
that first song with the robot rapping is horrible
lol thanks for the honesty
@@markwoods212 I have an 07 JGC, I was thinking of putting my battery bank and amps in the same location but decided to put them in the rear basically for safety reasons and i m thinking i want to wall mine off behind the C-pilar. Im not running lithium, 2-140ah agms and a couple ioxus ultracaps, only 1 is installed currently tho and i dont have any voltage drop running 2 teampie tp-2504's. I am debating on lithium just to save space so i can add the other two 2504's and the other two ultimax 18's and build a wall.
@@crushjenkinsinnovations6044 Yeah I don’t know how you’ll like the lithium but it did save tons of space coming from 3 100ah agm batteries myself