Timestamps below. Make sure to fully unlock Willpower before unlocking the suicides! Also, do not put points into Recoil until you can max at least one of the masteries behind it! (Liquid Courage or Double Edge). Half suicides is something I don't recommend for most people due to it really being 2/3 suicides because of recoil, but some people do like to run half suicides. 00:00 - Intro 01:40 - Recoil 02:55 - Liquid Courage 03:54 - Double Edge/Coagulate 07:21 - Suicide Friendly Champions 16:46 - Suicide Builds Start 19:24 - Alliance War Swap Build (Most recommended) 25:25 - Unit Price of Suicides 25:59 - Suicides + Deep Wounds 28:32 - Suicides + Mystic Dispersion 29:38 - Raw Damage Build 31:39 - Other Possibilities 33:03 - Closing Thoughts Alliance War Swap Build - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwoAHQMOwIsODwogAw7AMXQAAAAA= Suicides + Deep Wounds - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwoAHaMOyIsODwogAw5AMHQAAAAA= Suicides + Mystic Dispersion - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwoAEQMOwIsODwogAw6AMTQAUAAA= Raw Damage Build - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwqANSMO6IsODwogAw4AMHQAAAAA=
New to your channel, been playing for almost 4years & almost all the characters i use would benefit from Suicides & i don't use them. Now that I'm getting into 6.3 & 6.4 & eventually Act7 & an Abyss run, I'm working on investing in Suicides & maxing Assassin's. I'm really glad i came across your Video.. Appreciate all the detail you put into this, especially considering i was just at the Auntmai website & it wasn't loading( everything loaded on the website except the mastery part lol ).
Another character I love with suicide masteries is Cap Marvel Movie, with her indestructible she shrugs off the bleed and is poison immune, plus she won’t take recoil from specials while it’s active.
Devesh Bhomia the indestructible buff, when you enter binary when at 20+ charges you get it and won’t take the recoil as long as its up which lasts for 12 seconds at max sig
They really should just make it so that these masteries don't cost this much to swap around. Either keep them free like they did this last week, or make it so you can remove a single point from a specific mastery
Once again BG you have hit this out of the park. Learnt SO much stuff that is background like the bleeds. Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this so thoroughly. 9.3/10
Magik wasn't mentioned, and she is great for suicides simply because her Limbo triggered on specials lasts just long enough to heal back the recoil damage so spamming her special 2 is no problem. Plus running her with Warlock synergy is underrated and never talked about. Love taking power gain unblockable SP2 mini with her in AW. Great video as usual BG, keep it up!!!!
Another amazing video BG! I was surprised that you didn't cover the "Restoration Kit" synergy with Fury and Deadpool. To be able to use a God tier champion that isn't as suicide-friendly, drop that bleed/poison debuff , AND THEN heal 10% of your max health each fight is simply incredible!
First of all, I wanted to say this is an EXCELLENT guide and I really appreciated the Coagulate numbers. I'm also considering based on this tweaking some of my numbers to get that second point in coag and possibly taking that one point away from cruelty (5/5->4/5) to get that one point in courage. That being said, for several of these builds, I don't agree with the max limber having more points and petrify being left bare bones. To me, this should be flipped (I normally have 3 in petrify and 1 in limber). You're almost never stunned and if you are, you seriously messed up. On the flip side, parry is a gameplay staple, everyone is putting 3 in stupefy to further extend the duration, and many champions like Domino (trinity) rely on parry or stun from specials. Reducing power rate and regen rate by 30% during a stun is massively undervalued here. Limber saved me MANY times when I was a newer player but as players advance (and screw up less) the expectation is that you're playing properly. Since, again in my opinion, suicides are more of a late game setup, I think limber should hit the backburner over more utility in shutting down the opponent during (frequent) stuns vs the off chance I get stunned.
Truly appreciate the time, effort and bananas you put into these vids. The in depth method of information delivery and experience you bring to these videos is invaluable and you are awesome for giving back to the community. Keep being awesome BG! Can't wait for what you come out with next.
Thank you so much Brian. I can only run about a half-suicide mastery since I’m level 54 (Uncollected) but what a difference already!! Am saving Units to get more open as this will help so much on my cavalier run! Thanks for the vid much appreciated! 😎✊
Thanks for putting this out! I just re-planned out my masteries the other day to finally unlock suicides so it’s super helpful to have advice from a top level free to play player that is actually current. Most of the things I had to look at were either a year old or by whales who could easily afford them
I’ve been running suicides for a few months now and completely didn’t know about coagulate. Thanks for informing of that, i’m literally buying that and throwing it on asap. That’s going to be a game changer for a lot of my champs for their durability.
I freaking love this. I have never used suicides before mainly because of the cost but I am slowly unlocking them. I just took Ghost to 5/65 and I have OR at 4/55 so I am ready to reck some shit. I am hoping to get Corvus next. Thanks for the valuable info. Edit: Also have Quake at 5/65 so my account is made for suicides
Thanks a lot Brian hope everything is going good in life man. I been using the bleed build bc I have a lot of bleed champs. Works well, I was skeptical about physical resistance. Bc I usually use a point in perfect block to get to last stand. I’m a fan now of physical resistance I have noticed a nice decrease in damage I take when getting hit. Probably my favorite setup. Hope to see more videos from you. Again thanks man really good information as always.
Good video Brian! As always you explain it very well. Personally also am running something similar to your 1st recommended build, only with a few twists that give some more PI and other utilities... In stead of maxed Despair I have the points in maxed Precision, 1 in Despair and 1 in Deep Wounds. Then in stead of Limber personally prefer maxed Pacify (with 1 in Petrify). Then if you wanna swap to none-suicides, leave your Defence and Utilities the same and swap out the 8 points of DE/LQ with maxed Despair, maxed Deep Wounds and the rest in Assassin (in my case 2) or something else you like.
I would put BWCV in with your CG,OR,quake category. And I would put sentinel in same boart as vi$ion, both double immune but rely on spamming specials if your using them.
If you have 1 or 2 champs poison or bleed immune its perfect if i dont have that champs u set half suicides only liquid courage without double edge but u must have willpower maxed
Hey Do u have a video About showing What are the best Mastery tree Maxed Up for Level 60??? What are the best Mastery tree.... For Level 60 Player ?..... & after level 60 do we get leveling up points??? Because it's Max level right....soo...???
Yes your right but still it doesn't mean the units you used to buy them are also wasted coz after u recover your mastery points,your unlocked masteries remain unlocked so no need to buy those damn mastery cores again for example:if I unlock willpower,and I recover my points I don't need to spend more 1000+units to buy the cores to get it back,only the amount you spent to rank up or level up in that specific mastery is wasted (Edit:I don't exactly mean the amount you spent for ranking up in that mastery is wasted coz after all you recover for your benefit only so your mastery can get more better it's just better to say it's gone rather than wasted)
How do suicide masteries fit in with the mid-to-late game content? To me it would seem recoil would be a huge negative in LOL, Abyss, Act 6 and Variant fights. Do you just throw SP3s in long fights?
I did not know you could take suicides off then place defenders then put them back up that is something I wish somebody would have told me what about when I use omega on defense though
I think this could have been even more useful while mastery resets were still free. Can't help but feel like you missed an opportunity for increased views there.
Cuz that's not how CAIW works, his kinetic charges shrug off debuffs as they are applied, getting kinetic charges when you already have debuffs on you does not remove those debuffs
@@joedeertae4126 u can with new longshot synergy . Couple with nick fury deadpool synergy , congrats , instantly purified both debuffs and heals up 10% max health
My top champs r CGR ,Quake ,Stark Spidey ,Red Hulk, hit monkey , nick fury ,x23 , venompool,kitty pryde , magik, nebula and looking to rank up spider ham , blade ,aegon ,falcon , kingpin ,cap iW & void (both unduped) , is suicides good for me ? My only problem is the recoil 😢 due to red hulk as i have to spam sp1 ,or else i would have upgraded to recoil and how helpful or awful is that in alliance wars & quests where we don't have many health potions and opponents already give us enough damage ?😂 i guess i have the patience to finish a fight for a bit long than to have the need of having to use health potions to recover the loss of health due to recoil/suicides . Moreover i just finished Cav and need to start from 6.2.1 ... So to make it till thronebreaker or so , are the suicides worth it for me ? My major concern is my red Hulk 😢 and recently acquired Sorcerer supreme 😐
Maybe if you do arenas which I don't, What about questing?? My main struggle with this game is getting heal and revive potions and this seem like it will make it worse. Unless your rich or UA-camr who can just buy them.
I don’t understand why you like despair so much. Most champs in questing don’t heal. Also, it would be nice to be able to have a setup that can do both AW and arena. I really don’t want to have to reset my masteries for every single AW. Also, why don’t give Max out glass cannon?
Timestamps below. Make sure to fully unlock Willpower before unlocking the suicides! Also, do not put points into Recoil until you can max at least one of the masteries behind it! (Liquid Courage or Double Edge). Half suicides is something I don't recommend for most people due to it really being 2/3 suicides because of recoil, but some people do like to run half suicides.
00:00 - Intro
01:40 - Recoil
02:55 - Liquid Courage
03:54 - Double Edge/Coagulate
07:21 - Suicide Friendly Champions
16:46 - Suicide Builds Start
19:24 - Alliance War Swap Build (Most recommended)
25:25 - Unit Price of Suicides
25:59 - Suicides + Deep Wounds
28:32 - Suicides + Mystic Dispersion
29:38 - Raw Damage Build
31:39 - Other Possibilities
33:03 - Closing Thoughts
Alliance War Swap Build - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwoAHQMOwIsODwogAw7AMXQAAAAA=
Suicides + Deep Wounds - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwoAHaMOyIsODwogAw5AMHQAAAAA=
Suicides + Mystic Dispersion - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwoAEQMOwIsODwogAw6AMTQAUAAA=
Raw Damage Build - auntm.ai/masteries?a=EVJFwqANSMO6IsODwogAw4AMHQAAAAA=
ContestChampion hey bro, wud u say suicides are good for all paths in act 6 so far?
Hye Brian, do you now how to save the masteries setup in auntm?
Why you put a point in courage over 5th point in cruelty?
New to your channel, been playing for almost 4years & almost all the characters i use would benefit from Suicides & i don't use them. Now that I'm getting into 6.3 & 6.4 & eventually Act7 & an Abyss run, I'm working on investing in Suicides & maxing Assassin's. I'm really glad i came across your Video.. Appreciate all the detail you put into this, especially considering i was just at the Auntmai website & it wasn't loading( everything loaded on the website except the mastery part lol ).
In your comment, do you mean “in front of it”(instead of “behind”) cuz Liquid Courage n Double Edge aren’t behind Recoil?
“Suicide mastery guide” that title will disappoint a group of people clicking on the video thinking it is one thing than realising it’s for a game.
😂 that got a real laugh out of me. Well done sir!
It is sad to hear that you think like that about Christians and other groups.
*_Oh god oh no_*
@@wasiazmi603 what do Christian’s have to do with it?
😂😂😂
Just now getting a chance to watch this and I must say these are great guides on different setups and how they each benefit. Great job BG
I can’t believe I’ve gone this long in this game without this mastery build (first one)...it’s like all my champs are juiced up now😂Thanks a ton
Does mastery increase the base rating
@@Hycee_0209 yes
Another character I love with suicide masteries is Cap Marvel Movie, with her indestructible she shrugs off the bleed and is poison immune, plus she won’t take recoil from specials while it’s active.
While it's active, what active ?
Devesh Bhomia the indestructible buff, when you enter binary when at 20+ charges you get it and won’t take the recoil as long as its up which lasts for 12 seconds at max sig
They really should just make it so that these masteries don't cost this much to swap around. Either keep them free like they did this last week, or make it so you can remove a single point from a specific mastery
Once again BG you have hit this out of the park. Learnt SO much stuff that is background like the bleeds. Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this so thoroughly. 9.3/10
Magik wasn't mentioned, and she is great for suicides simply because her Limbo triggered on specials lasts just long enough to heal back the recoil damage so spamming her special 2 is no problem. Plus running her with Warlock synergy is underrated and never talked about. Love taking power gain unblockable SP2 mini with her in AW. Great video as usual BG, keep it up!!!!
I know! I run magik with warlock all the time and nobody acknowledges it
I want a 5* Warlock to team-up with my Magik.
Another amazing video BG! I was surprised that you didn't cover the "Restoration Kit" synergy with Fury and Deadpool. To be able to use a God tier champion that isn't as suicide-friendly, drop that bleed/poison debuff , AND THEN heal 10% of your max health each fight is simply incredible!
First of all, I wanted to say this is an EXCELLENT guide and I really appreciated the Coagulate numbers. I'm also considering based on this tweaking some of my numbers to get that second point in coag and possibly taking that one point away from cruelty (5/5->4/5) to get that one point in courage. That being said, for several of these builds, I don't agree with the max limber having more points and petrify being left bare bones. To me, this should be flipped (I normally have 3 in petrify and 1 in limber). You're almost never stunned and if you are, you seriously messed up. On the flip side, parry is a gameplay staple, everyone is putting 3 in stupefy to further extend the duration, and many champions like Domino (trinity) rely on parry or stun from specials. Reducing power rate and regen rate by 30% during a stun is massively undervalued here. Limber saved me MANY times when I was a newer player but as players advance (and screw up less) the expectation is that you're playing properly. Since, again in my opinion, suicides are more of a late game setup, I think limber should hit the backburner over more utility in shutting down the opponent during (frequent) stuns vs the off chance I get stunned.
Truly appreciate the time, effort and bananas you put into these vids. The in depth method of information delivery and experience you bring to these videos is invaluable and you are awesome for giving back to the community. Keep being awesome BG! Can't wait for what you come out with next.
I've been waiting so long for this kind of explanation on suicide masteries , Thank you so much !
Thank you so much Brian. I can only run about a half-suicide mastery since I’m level 54 (Uncollected) but what a difference already!! Am saving Units to get more open as this will help so much on my cavalier run! Thanks for the vid much appreciated! 😎✊
Best how to vid I have seen for some time. Thanks BG...I'm sure this was a lot of work, but will be very helpful for folks. You're awesome!
This was amazingly helpful! I'm about to go into the suicides for the first time. Thanks!
How was your experience!
You're one of the smartest players out there. Mad respect BG! Keep up the good work. Your videos made me a better player, hands down!
Thanks for putting this out! I just re-planned out my masteries the other day to finally unlock suicides so it’s super helpful to have advice from a top level free to play player that is actually current. Most of the things I had to look at were either a year old or by whales who could easily afford them
Problem is, now I have to save up about 10,000 units
"Today I want to talk about the most powerful masteries in the game"
_Doesn't even cover Pure Skill_
Its broken
It honestly needs a nerf tbh
@@kaorii1577 No, let my skill champs alone.
Bruh dexterity and parry is the most powerful
@@beargamer155 Facts.
Great video bg, appreciate all the knowledge and time that went into this!! Always appreciative of your work!!
TY man, i just got ghost r5 and i was thinking about suicide... u explain me better than anyone.
Im relatively new to the game and kept hearing about suicides but had no clue how to do this till now Thanks BG great explanation/ tutorial big HELP!
Its very rare to find such detailed content. Keep up the good work and “spread sheets” 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I’ve been running suicides for a few months now and completely didn’t know about coagulate. Thanks for informing of that, i’m literally buying that and throwing it on asap. That’s going to be a game changer for a lot of my champs for their durability.
BOSSmanSmeagZ OG 2 points in coagulate with max willpower will work good for all your champs.
Even just 1 point in coagulate is helpful.
I freaking love this. I have never used suicides before mainly because of the cost but I am slowly unlocking them. I just took Ghost to 5/65 and I have OR at 4/55 so I am ready to reck some shit. I am hoping to get Corvus next. Thanks for the valuable info.
Edit: Also have Quake at 5/65 so my account is made for suicides
This is amazing, simple, and precise. Thanks, BG.
Tough fitting everything in with suicides and MD. I found with suicides on, 3 in MD, 3 in WP, and 3 in DW seems to be a good mix for me.
Thanks a lot Brian hope everything is going good in life man. I been using the bleed build bc I have a lot of bleed champs. Works well, I was skeptical about physical resistance. Bc I usually use a point in perfect block to get to last stand. I’m a fan now of physical resistance I have noticed a nice decrease in damage I take when getting hit. Probably my favorite setup. Hope to see more videos from you. Again thanks man really good information as always.
Good video Brian! As always you explain it very well. Personally also am running something similar to your 1st recommended build, only with a few twists that give some more PI and other utilities... In stead of maxed Despair I have the points in maxed Precision, 1 in Despair and 1 in Deep Wounds. Then in stead of Limber personally prefer maxed Pacify (with 1 in Petrify).
Then if you wanna swap to none-suicides, leave your Defence and Utilities the same and swap out the 8 points of DE/LQ with maxed Despair, maxed Deep Wounds and the rest in Assassin (in my case 2) or something else you like.
0:27 good luck with getting any good offers and stuff in the future
"It's almost as if you sold your soul to the Devil, the devil in this case being *Kabam* ..."
More fantastic content, thank you! Awesome guide!
great vid as always, greeting from Thailand. stay healthy and safe.
Hey BG do you have a arena build that focuses completely on Pi?
Great question! I'd really like to see that build.
@@jalderink I feel like it would be impractical.
KM + Void helps mitigate some of the damage for both the champs. Void gains some health from the initial bleed and KM will eat the debuffs.
Thanks!
been waiting on this video days now
L A Z O C I T Y I watched every single minute 😎
Big help bro to explain as well. Thanks for this video
Would love to try them out but they are so expensive to unlock and I would need to sacrifice masteries like deep wounds.
Thank you ❤
Nice man, thanks for this info
I just unlocked offense side of mastery and put all my points into it only to realize I need will power too and don’t have any more carb cores
Why no Dark Hawk? I have suicides and he is one of my top damage dealer at r5 5*
Where does it say in game that poison debuffs decrease healing effects by 30%?
Millions of places where poison debuffs are mentioned in descriptions
I would put BWCV in with your CG,OR,quake category. And I would put sentinel in same boart as vi$ion, both double immune but rely on spamming specials if your using them.
Do you have a suicide mastery set up for no-alliances players?
Thanks BG I thought this video was very useful 👍
Do the double edge effects still work even after the bleed is gone ?
Yep it does
why didn't you include black widow clairvoyant? I would list her as required
Yup agreed
Is it safe/recommended to use suicide mastery for the story mode?
If you have 1 or 2 champs poison or bleed immune its perfect if i dont have that champs u set half suicides only liquid courage without double edge but u must have willpower maxed
while recovering mastery points do we recover mastery core as well ?
Yes
I was convinced n now I’m back
Hey Do u have a video About showing What are the best Mastery tree Maxed Up for Level 60??? What are the best Mastery tree.... For Level 60 Player ?..... & after level 60 do we get leveling up points??? Because it's Max level right....soo...???
Hey if i recover my mastery points it's not gonna give me my mastery cores back..am i right?
Yes your right but still it doesn't mean the units you used to buy them are also wasted coz after u recover your mastery points,your unlocked masteries remain unlocked so no need to buy those damn mastery cores again for example:if I unlock willpower,and I recover my points I don't need to spend more 1000+units to buy the cores to get it back,only the amount you spent to rank up or level up in that specific mastery is wasted (Edit:I don't exactly mean the amount you spent for ranking up in that mastery is wasted coz after all you recover for your benefit only so your mastery can get more better it's just better to say it's gone rather than wasted)
@@MrDuh-zz1ty oh oh i got it... thanks for explaination..that means nothing is gonna waste..
If I have ghost, warlock, Clare voide, doom , venom and iceman , havoc on my front line should I use suicide?? Please recommend me
How about black widow clairvoyant
Everyone will really skip Recoil if it was skipable
Great video, BG
Are these masteries effective in act 6 like taking on the champion?
Very helpful
Wish I had known all this stuff before. I used to just try and get lucky off premiums. Before they were discounted. I’d already have a bunch of these
What happened in your alliance? Why you are not in 4Loki?
I Been Waiting On This Video For Years - Thanks BG P.S. I Am Now LIVE!!!!!!!
How about Longshot?
Great video like the setup except for the 4 in cruelty thats guaranteed extra damage given away
Thanks man. I now have to waste more time on this stupid addiction that I can't get over...
How do suicide masteries fit in with the mid-to-late game content? To me it would seem recoil would be a huge negative in LOL, Abyss, Act 6 and Variant fights. Do you just throw SP3s in long fights?
I thought you didn’t lock your masteries when you placed War defense?
is the first one makes you faster in arenas?
If I have every points but don't want to run suicides. What masteries can I use?
How can I turn suicides on and off without recovering my mastery points?which then takes the resources I use to put them there?
So since champs like warlock have poison n bleed immune arent those just free 60% more damage?
do suicide masteries need to ba maxed out
Who is better to rank up with suicide, iceman or Emma? Btw I ve warlock ghost and Clare voyant
I've had liquid courage for a long time and today I added liquid courage and my champions pi all went down, do you know why?
Recoil
Damn good video!
When should we expect 5* arena guide please.....!
wait... you place your defenders with EIGHT mastery points missing??
Why not mention diminishing returns on certain masteries.
How many units do all of the cores you need cost
If i just on my will power and recovery does it worth it?
I did not know you could take suicides off then place defenders then put them back up that is something I wish somebody would have told me what about when I use omega on defense though
If we unlock the suicide masteries but then recover all our points, will we have to buy the mastery cores over again?
Justice Stokes no, just need to use units to reopen them again
How about killmonger/ void sinergy?is good for suicide
Why despair over bleed or assassin?
I think this could have been even more useful while mastery resets were still free. Can't help but feel like you missed an opportunity for increased views there.
Which one should I unlock first, glass cannon, despair or willpower?
Willpower
Is suicide mastery good for Magik?
Yes. She’s amazing with them
starlight
Even unawakened she instantly heals back recoil
Yes the limbo on every special will heal almost all the recoil damage back
1203scott
She actually heals from Recoil if you only run Double Edge.
Frisky _ Dart she need to be duped?
Why can’t I get awakened CAIW w skill to nullify suicide effects when getting kinetic charge?
Cuz that's not how CAIW works, his kinetic charges shrug off debuffs as they are applied, getting kinetic charges when you already have debuffs on you does not remove those debuffs
Ah, thx for info.
Wish it was more specific in description. Suicides (to me) are gained upon entering fight.
@@joedeertae4126 u can with new longshot synergy . Couple with nick fury deadpool synergy , congrats , instantly purified both debuffs and heals up 10% max health
I took a year long break and have recently started playing again. I'm stuck on 5.2.2 . I think my mastery needs changing. Is suicides good for 5.2.2?
yea, it’s pretty good
If i max out greater strength and glass canon...will they add up the increase of all champ basic attacks? (8% + 7.2%)
Despair to me is not what i would call one of the most powerful in the game. Am i crazy!?
My top champs r CGR ,Quake ,Stark Spidey ,Red Hulk, hit monkey , nick fury ,x23 , venompool,kitty pryde , magik, nebula and looking to rank up spider ham , blade ,aegon ,falcon , kingpin ,cap iW & void (both unduped) , is suicides good for me ? My only problem is the recoil 😢 due to red hulk as i have to spam sp1 ,or else i would have upgraded to recoil and how helpful or awful is that in alliance wars & quests where we don't have many health potions and opponents already give us enough damage ?😂 i guess i have the patience to finish a fight for a bit long than to have the need of having to use health potions to recover the loss of health due to recoil/suicides . Moreover i just finished Cav and need to start from 6.2.1 ... So to make it till thronebreaker or so , are the suicides worth it for me ? My major concern is my red Hulk 😢 and recently acquired Sorcerer supreme 😐
How to get mistry point plzz tell me
Maybe if you do arenas which I don't, What about questing?? My main struggle with this game is getting heal and revive potions and this seem like it will make it worse. Unless your rich or UA-camr who can just buy them.
I don’t understand why you like despair so much. Most champs in questing don’t heal. Also, it would be nice to be able to have a setup that can do both AW and arena. I really don’t want to have to reset my masteries for every single AW. Also, why don’t give Max out glass cannon?
Thought Suture only took affect if an enemy placed a bleed on you...
How to get point for mistry progress
Why 4/5 Cruelty and not 4/5 Precision?
5/5 precision but only 4/5 cruelty? I usually run it the reverse as hitting harder on a crit is worth more than a very small crit chance increase imo.
i have recovery and whe i get a debuff i dont regenarate can you tell me you?