On 'Succession,' Everyone Got What They Deserved (Kind Of) - Series Finale Spoiler and Review
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2023
- David Chen discusses the series finale of 'Succession.'
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I keep seeing in video after video Shiv is just going to be a housewife like her mother. Why does everybody forget that this show started out with Shiv not working at the company, she was a nationally known political consultant working for a senator who was considering running for president. It never occurs to anybody she can just return to politics.
Great video! Tom’s success is not only nepotism, he is also a sycophant, a yes man. In movies and tv we are used to the sycophant getting their comeuppance but in real life they often do well. That is what made this ending great.
He’s not a nepotist he wasn’t born a billionaire… as Shiv says, he’s a spelunker
Tom is an empty suit & future fall guy....
@@ShaneMichealCupp When he married Shiv, it became partly nepotism.
@@marilynjarvis8228 Roger Ailles could always be a fall guy for Rupert Murdoch but Fox News made money so Roger lasted 20 years and was even protected for a time.
@@bgeardigital fair enough
Mercurial is an underrated word
Great video. Arevyou going to do more with patrick h eillems, been missing yoir interviews with him
Great analysis Dave. I think Roman probably ended up the ‘least’ unhappy out of the Roy Kids. Great show, hoping to miss it. Maybe a Spin-Off one day? Tom & Greg?
That would probably be Con lol
Great video Dave!
Jolly interesting. Im your fan. Thank you.
I was satisfied with the ending though I guess I was expecting something more definitive. Yes the deal is done and the siblings are out, but if the creators wanted, they could continue on with season 5 where Kendall and Roman make another power grab.
The show was already getting repetitious thank god it ended when it did.
@@MXM194 Haha I agree it was repetitive but still it was never boring always entertaining.
I wonder if there's a cut scene that would have filled in a bit of Shiv's decision process. Just before the vote, Shiv and Stewy to off to talk to Sandy, because she might be wobbling. But then in the board meeting Sandy votes for the GoJo deal, saying she wants out. What happened in the conversation we don't see? Did she use that "getting out" language, which echos words Caroline, Shiv's mother, used the day before? I couldn't help thinking Shiv looked around at these people and realized she wanted out. Except, of course, she doesn't really get out, because she then returns to Tom. No happy ending for her.
Agreed - felt like something was missing there
You know what story line they dropped: PIERCE! They can still buy Pierce and navigate toward a lateral takeover of Waystar again.
yeah i'd like shiv to go on with the Pierce takeover, with Rome maybe as an investor (but they might not have the money without Ken's share, and Ken is, umm, not very likely to want to team up with them again at this particular moment haha)
Everyone got what they WANTED at the beginning of Season 4. This is what’s ironic about the ending of Succession.
At first I was sad about Shiv’s fate. Then I remembered that she’s chosen this and maybe deserves it. They all lose. Mark Mylod is not optimistic about Roman even though he seems fine. It was foolish of me to want a happy ending. I liked the finale.
Yeah Roman was the least affected, but maybe was the worst off to start with. He's right where he always was.
Wish cousin greg got a W. Now he's absolutely nothing
I disagree with this eval of TOM...Tom is not a the TOP..he is a buffer CEO for the AMERICAN part of the company. He may be "uninspiring" but he is very good at his job. The CEO job is not to COME UP WITH new idea neccisarily. Some times the CEO's job is simply to take the flack for the company and make sure it runs smoothly..we have seen that TOM is VERY hardworking and competent. AND he will eat sh!t which is totally the job of this kind of CEO. Tom is very talented actually...why ..he is "EXACTLY" what his environment demands him to be...HE is a VERY competent buisness man actually and you can see throughout the series that he is poised, humble, courageous and extremely hardworking. There is an element of Nepotism but cetainly far far far less than anyone else.
Humble, poised and courageous are not necessarily great words for Tom (it's enough to see how he treats those under him, with his "human footstools" and "skulls to cut", and how he flounders in front of those who have more power than him, desperately trying to say the right thing to please them - I'd say he's more like "servile", but maybe he'll get a little bit over it now that he finally has less to prove). But yes, he's clearly good at what he does. He got his ATN job completely through nepotism, but he kept it because he delivered, and he got picked by Matsson because when Shiv was talking about him, she inadvertently sold him as the perfect candidate for what Matsson was looking for: competent, but obedient and ready to eat shit.
@@AW-uv3cb The footstool is humble in this enviroment is humility...how he treats those under hime is also humiity ..how he "flounders" is also humility in this eenviroment...ie he is does what his enviroments dictates he is not above the game ...this is humility for this environment
@@AW-uv3cb If you want to see how poised, humble and courageous he truly is then take a look at his conversation with kendall at the diner and afterwards in parking lot.
@@KingMinosxxvi I genuinely think that we have very different understanding of what it means to be "humble" and "poised".
@@AW-uv3cb Humility is the opposite of hubris. Poise is a little more subjective but I still maintain it describes him.