Most Interesting Debate on the Topic Of "Is Jesus God?" Ahmed Deedat VS Erik Bock

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  • @happyrevert5015
    @happyrevert5015 11 років тому +86

    I converted from Christianity to Islam in 2012. I thank ALLAH every day that I'm a Muslim. My anxious soul has found peace and tranquillisation. Jesus says in the Lord's Prayer ( Matthew 6:9-13 & Luke 11:2-4) that our Creator forgives us our sins. Jesus never said that he is a God and that he want to be worshipt. The church has made Jesus a God. Dear Christians read the Gospels with open eyes and realize that Jesus is a messenger of our Creator.

    • @MuhammadAbdullah-em5ry
      @MuhammadAbdullah-em5ry 6 років тому +6

      Masha ALLAH practice Islam and do dawah in shaa ALLAH, may ALLAH swt guide you

    • @dookitsarah9913
      @dookitsarah9913 6 років тому +4

      Happy Revert ;)

    • @jamalkhan3708
      @jamalkhan3708 4 роки тому +4

      @ Happy Revert. It’s okay, we choose what we believe. I left the cult of islam in 2017. I’m Christian now, and Jesus Christ is my Lord and savior.
      Salvation only through Jesus Christ.
      Jesus calmed i am the way the truth the life.
      Jesus name above all names.

    • @suleimanomar1096
      @suleimanomar1096 4 роки тому +5

      Jamal, why do you say that Jesus is your lord and savior? R you afraid to say that Jesus is your"god"!!!??? Hahahaha

    • @alihemed4484
      @alihemed4484 4 роки тому +6

      @@jamalkhan3708 you leave the true religion and you are running after the hell now, turn your mind before its too late( death), death can be just be sudden, accident , fell sick whatsoever, we cant know

  • @azbando
    @azbando 12 років тому +12

    Cool to see ppl still watching these :) Go deedat :) His spirit still lives on !!!

  • @hassankh1655
    @hassankh1655 11 років тому +17

    Deedat shows the truth :)

  • @benaissamustapha8014
    @benaissamustapha8014 11 років тому +6

    TAHANK YOU MY SISTER IM MUSLIM AND IM HAPPY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITH US

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому +7

    The Gospel of Luke, chapter 11 verse 20
    "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
    The Gospel of John, chapter 5 verse 30
    "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому +5

    "When Truth is heard against Falsehood, Falsehood perishes. For Falsehood by its nature is bound to perish." Al-Qur'an 17:81

  • @huzar237
    @huzar237 4 роки тому +6

    You can see how nervous Erik was as soon as it was his turn knowing Deedat had already won.

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому +3

    Sheikh Ahmed Deedat ! you are such a gem who have made it easier for us muslims to defend our faith and stand up for what we believe in and not be ashamed for who we are. You survived longer than you were expected to by the doctors and even gave dawah when you were nearing death. you are awesome ! You are a soldier indeed. May Allah grant you Jennathul firdhouse.

  • @StarZedMusic
    @StarZedMusic 4 роки тому +13

    😂 OMG
    Christians are preaching in comments too.

  • @Baron8199
    @Baron8199 8 років тому +8

    Christians don't understand simple fact : Jesus ( HIMSELF ) doesn't say in the complete I AM GOD. Don't cote another person saying Jesus is God.

  • @maksudans
    @maksudans 11 років тому +6

    If Jesus said "No one comes to the Father except through me. "
    then tell me one thing you christian brothers...why you worship Jesus why not to The Father ( ALLAH )

  • @hassankh1655
    @hassankh1655 11 років тому +9

    MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU

  • @doityourownway
    @doityourownway 12 років тому +5

    Thanks for making this full lecture available.

  • @Abz73
    @Abz73 11 років тому +7

    I love this guy Deedat.

  • @zabibaburi1149
    @zabibaburi1149 12 років тому +5

    Mashaallah my great teacher!!!

  • @FehadBilgramiChannel1
    @FehadBilgramiChannel1 11 років тому +2

    Seriously, what a great debater Deedat was, mashAllah - his memory.

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому +2

    When a man addressed Jesus as “Good Teacher”, he replied “Why do you call me good? No one is good except the one God.’’ [Mark 10:18]

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому +2

    Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you:
    give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers:
    smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
    GIVE THE CONTEXT OF THE VERSE DONT TRY TO LIE ABOUT MY BOOK. These verses are about the battle of badr whis jahad meaning self defense...

  • @Changethethinking
    @Changethethinking 11 років тому +3

    "The Father and I are one."

    • @StarZedMusic
      @StarZedMusic 4 роки тому +12

      "I & My disciples are one" - so you have 15 gods.

    • @StarZedMusic
      @StarZedMusic 3 роки тому

      @Ash Solomon
      Because when they read the bible, they never see it like we do. Verses for them be like;
      Jaisbaisbaiq soabsosbaoa siabais aiabqisbao JESUS jaizbaoabsia ziahaoapzhsusvais sisusbw IS baisbaosbsisbsoab sn ksjsbsjs sjshsis osheis zihs jshe sjs snsbs si GOD.

    • @iliyazkamal8597
      @iliyazkamal8597 3 роки тому +1

      Which father ? What Is one ?

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому

    In the same way, when the word ‘Father’ is used to refer to God it shouldn’t be taken literally. Instead it’s a way of saying God is the creator, sustainer, cherisher etc. There are many verses for us to understand this symbolic meaning of the word ‘Father’, for example: one God and Father of all. [Ephesians 4:6].

  • @jameswatt73
    @jameswatt73 11 років тому +1

    John 10:30 "I and my Father are one." what is the context of this, please read John 10:22-30 and you will understand why Jesus said that.

  • @normannordin3659
    @normannordin3659 3 роки тому +2

    I was born in Muslim... But before this I was only Nominal Muslim. I myself was not know about the Mukjizat of Quran.
    Until I hear Ahmed Deedat then Zakir Naik speeches. Once I know the truth I am pity those good Christian people.
    I pray May Allah open their heart to search and find the truth. Now, I really understand of Brotherhood although you are not Muslim.
    Its like I want all those who is not Muslim to hear and share the truth. May Allah forgive us all.

  • @bobsilverstone
    @bobsilverstone 12 років тому +1

    128. Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad ) from amongst yourselves (i.e. whom you know well). It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty. He (Muhammad ) is anxious over you (to be rightly guided, to repent to Allah, and beg Him to pardon and forgive your sins, in order that you may enter Paradise and be saved from the punishment of the Hell-fire), for the believers (he is) full of pity, kind, and merciful.

  • @shay4068
    @shay4068 11 років тому +1

    Alhamdullelah thank u ahmed deedat for ur info

  • @viktorva
    @viktorva 12 років тому

    "Oh, that you know ,in your time, way to peace, but you didnt recognized it. It will come days when your enemies will rise up ramparts , and hunt you down from all sides. And inside of that ramparts will destroy you, you and your children also. There wont be a stone on stone, cause you didnt recognize time when you where chased." That were Jesus words before he came back to Jerusalim. My heart is breaking when i see how much Jesus, Son God, and also Father God, Holy Spirit loves us. God is love!

  • @comptonjapan
    @comptonjapan 2 роки тому +2

    3:01:00 This is the funniest part where the guy keeps blabbering about consciousness.

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому +2

    Maryam, Thanks for exchange; I need to go for my dinner now; peace be with you.

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Your point is you are looking for perfection in humanity ... there isn't any ordinary human being who is perfection...the only perfection is in the message. The whole mission of Jesus was to point this out to us; no-one has ever had any message like Jesus; he didn't need an army, didn't ask someone to kill on his behalf, offered equality to all, clarified the relationship between God and Humanity (who speaks the best for God do you think?) and commanded his apostles to pray in his name

  • @shaheengk5352
    @shaheengk5352 8 місяців тому

    May Allah Ta’ala bless Sheikh Ahmed Deedat the highest place in Jannahtul Firdoos. Ameen

  • @ABDULLAH-oi3mw
    @ABDULLAH-oi3mw 6 років тому +4

    Samosa is delicious

  • @BonjourNuit120
    @BonjourNuit120 12 років тому

    @mrlogicalman1 Christianity is unlike any other faith on earth, for God offered all believers to experience God for themselves (John 1: 12) When People experience God, it ends their sorrows, sufferings, fears, hardships for God gives us the answers and solutions to our questions and our problems.
    The true meaning of Heaven or Paradise is experiencing God Revelation 21:3
    As there is no greater experience in life that gives true love, peace and joy than experiencing God who once came as Jesus

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    What you need to watch out for is reductive literalism; in not contextualising or taking one line out of a paragraph or reading, just before V30, is "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man" (John 5:26-27)....Identifying himself with God as equal

  • @viktorva
    @viktorva 12 років тому

    Man if there was not for Orthodox Christianity, i would be new Al Capone or worse. Today people live hard, every day when i see injustice i would kill cause of that. Every day there is a lot of hatred between people, i found out many people hate me when i want to do good to them. And when i need to calm down, when i need love, or anything else only Jesus is with me. Before i didnt realized, but when i sit and think how many things happens to me, i found it out easy.

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    Yes, obviously any person with a straight brain would choose a book which has been preserved for all these years and passes the test of time is far better than a book in which Christian scholars are constantly produced revised standard versions after the discovery of manuscripts.

  • @8675309ggg
    @8675309ggg 11 років тому

    There is only one God, but He consists of three distinct persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Matthew 28:16-20 is a passage referred to as “The Great Commission.” In verse 19, Jesus states, “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”

  • @kevinoteltv9399
    @kevinoteltv9399 11 років тому

    Maksud, why does the qur'an say the earth is flat in Sour 88:20 and that the sky is a solid object and tha if allah did not hold it, it would fall on us. Sourate 37:6-10 says that the stars are allah's missiles against demons, false teachings and huundreds of contradictions. If Mohammat did not commit idolatary(shirk), can you please explain me Sour 53:19, read the hadiths for explanation. Mohammat's problem was sex: why did he seize his adopted son's wife(Zaina) etc..etc

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Quite right too; take nobodys word for it, check it all out yourself

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    The closest verse regarding "Trinity" in the Bible, has now been thrown out of the Bible
    The verse in the Bible which is closest to "Trinity" and is often quoted by Christian missionaries is the first Epistle of John, chapter 5 verse no 7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one."

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    In the OT; God was referred to metaphorically as The Spirit of God, The Word of God and the Wisdom of God; all without jeopardizing God's unity and transcendence. There are references in Psalm 51,Job 28, Prov 8, Sir 24, Wis 7....leading to the Jewish concept of God at the time of Christ; Yahweh as a transcendent God of all

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    The Gospel of Mark ,chapter 12, verse 29
    "Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonia Ikhad"
    It is a Hebrew quotation which means:
    "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."
    The Gospel of John, chapter 14 verse 28
    "My father is greater than I."
    The Gospel of John, chapter 10 verse 29
    "My Father... is greater than all."

  • @sutonchef
    @sutonchef 11 років тому

    NONE CAN CHANGE WHAT ALLAH SENT DOWN OF THE INJIL OR TORAH The Word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His Words: for He is the One who heareth and knoweth all. al - An'am S. 6:115

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Absolutely agree about terrorism; I marched along with Muslim brothers and sisters against the War's in Iraq and Afghanistan and Gaza as well as a Jewish group who supported the Palestinians; I've worked in an International Aid Agency and travelled the world; I know where terrorism comes from...an abuse of power from leaders in the east, the west, the north and the south and the poorest suffer all the time

  • @TikoTaka1
    @TikoTaka1 12 років тому +1

    The Prophet Muhammad (saws) said, "Fear Allah in respect of women." [Sahih Muslim]

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    An example of where Jesus is called God (Theos) is in Hebrew 1:8-9, John 1:1,John 20-28. There are many instances where Jesus is referred to in the OT version of divine immanence; Col1:15-20, Heb 1:1-4. In Kyrios usage this referred to the Lord as God. There is a whole list of reasoning and confirmative texts and references for the Trinity. Jesus himself commands the Apostles to preach in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Thomas who doubted called him My Lord and My God

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    It is clearly one of the points; we also have a Theology of a God who is limted in certain things; God can not do evil for example; wouldn't want to harm any of his creation I suggest and that is why we should not do it either; this is the reasoning; but Jesus came to serve; God worked for us in creation in effect; he made us, so there is a whole plethora of Theology and understanding of a God who serves; that is not weakness; that would be helping your neighbour; giving of your life is strength

  • @MrBogusSmogus
    @MrBogusSmogus 12 років тому

    The greatest marvel of all between the "Arab/Palastinian" faith and the Israel/Judeo faith is that both are descendands of the Patriarch Abraham, who was a friend of God for his obedience to the Father.
    Question: Does Islam recognize this fact.

  • @mikecorbeil
    @mikecorbeil 12 років тому

    True Christians must be open-minded, good conduct, true individual conscience, & truly peace & justice workers. It has to be true peace, true justice, never injustice that's disguised.
    They must always endeavour to avoid being fooled in bad ways, which means they must always be very vigilant. It requires developing & exercising a good individual conscience.
    It doesn't do us any good to fight among each other. Instead, debate in the mind & resist, using the mind.
    Even Atheists screw up, in USA.

  • @TikoTaka1
    @TikoTaka1 12 років тому

    Muhammad (saws) said: "None but a noble man treats women in an honorable manner, and none but an ignorant treats women disgracefully." (Sunan At-Tirmidhî)

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    first Epistle of John, chapter 5 verse no 7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one."

  • @azbando
    @azbando 12 років тому +3

    @mrlogicalman1 so true :)

  • @Capulett25
    @Capulett25 11 років тому

    Matthew 7:22-23
    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

  • @incelemeTRe
    @incelemeTRe 12 років тому

    The problem is, nobody answer him at all, christians usually say that "he is evil" and that's all. So, please, how can a holy book "words of god" can have so many different versions? They did not even match in meanings.

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому

    So the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said ‘I am God, worship me’, but he didn’t. He merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

  • @FehadBilgramiChannel1
    @FehadBilgramiChannel1 11 років тому

    can you either give me reference online (I don't want to google and risk of looking up something unauthentic) please?

  • @jameswatt73
    @jameswatt73 11 років тому

    What version of Bible you are using because in John 8:58 it says that .Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." and John 17:11 says that ". .And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are." Where in these two verses of the Bible did Jesus claim he is a God?

  • @Changethethinking
    @Changethethinking 11 років тому

    Today the head covering for women is not customary, but we should still be careful to act in a manner that pleases the Lord and is acceptable in His sight, especially in worship.
    Paul said in 1 Cor. 11:15 he said that a woman’s long hair is her covering. I’ve read that Greek women were beginning to cut their hair short and wear men’s clothing in those days as a show of their independence and that Paul was really writing against the blurring of sexual distinction that continues to this day.

  • @Capulett25
    @Capulett25 11 років тому

    So do you know your own book, the bible?
    Matthew 7:22-23
    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому

    God is All-Knowing but Jesus by his own admission was not All-Knowing. This can be seen in the following passage when Jesus says “But nobody knows when that day or hour will come, not the heavenly angels and not the Son. Only the Father knows.” [Matthew 24:36]

  • @shahadah2203
    @shahadah2203 11 років тому +2

    allahu akbar.....!!

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Why no direct reply ? Anyway I am addressing the issue, it is very plain and simple, even today if you were to ask 4 witnesses to a crime or an event you would get 4 different versions; each one an individual seing things differently. This is exactly the case in the Gospels, 4 different people seeing the same event in their own way, each with an individual message to convey all about the same truth ... this has been known for a long time before Islam came to be and is relevant today

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому

    The truth is that Jesus preached the same message that the Prophets in the Old Testament preached. There is a passage in the Bible which really emphasises his core message. A man came to Jesus and asked “Which is the first commandment of all?”Jesus answered, “The first of all the commandments is Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.’’[Mark 12:28-29].

  • @shininglamb
    @shininglamb 12 років тому

    The Justice of God remains the same, whether in Old and New testament. It is still eye for an eye. If God do this to all humans, NO ONE WILL REACH HEAVEN. It is the MERCY OF GOD to the humans,that God showed through Jesus. And Jesus simply don't say turn others cheek, he SHOWS it, how to do it. You can still attack anyone who do bad to you, but you should also be READY TO ACCEPT THE SAME PUNISHMENT FROM GOD, if you do bad...

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Hebrew has 3 words for God; el, elohim, and eloah. Part of the reason for the cross is the joining of heaven and earth symbolically, and it makes complete sense to me that if God were to come he would come as a human being to signify us being made in his "image and likeness"...the OT refers to a Messiah and saviour; Jesus fullfils the OT prophecy, and Jesus was a man; the perfect man....appropriate for the times and the society then; who else better to come as God ?

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    I know them well; the Bible is written in a variety of ways, there is poetry, symbolism, metaphor and all this was known long before Islam came to be. How do you take a parable literally ? You have to be aware of the deeper meaning and context and the relative society and history; this applies to any book. Genesis was well known to be a story, not a literal piece of work, even in the time of Augustine they understood creation to have been an instant event; how near to the Big Bang is that ?

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    If you cannot perceive of his nature in any way then we are just guessing; his nature is revealed to us in the Genesis story and throughout the Bible and our encounter. I have to confess I don't agree with polygamy, the Mormons have it as well in part of their system, but for me a monogamous relationship is the same as a Monotheistic God; and the ideal family is shown with Jesus , Mary and Joseph in many ways, not just the literal sense.

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому

    God is independent and he doesn’t need sleep, food or water. Jesus however ate, drank, slept and depended on God: As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father. [John 6:57]. Another sign of Jesus’ dependence on God is that he prayed to God: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed [Matthew 26:39].

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    @no1hoopsman I dont think you are addressing it properly then. You yourself say that various people recorded the same events differently, So the same God inspired people to write differently? the same God inspired authors to include sidenotes which are removed today ?

  • @miketelz
    @miketelz 12 років тому

    Isaiah 43:3 says 'For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Savior.' There is no dispute (as far as I know) that Jesus is the Holy One of Israel,the anointed one, the Christ or Messiah. Doesn't this scripture and others in Isaiah present the Holy One of Israel as God? I a confused and dismayed that we as humans, with finite minds, think we can define and totally understand God as to how He decides to interact and reveal Himself to man.

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    If you are so worried about our God who changes his word then what about the problem with your bible which changed an ‘eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth’ with ‘turn the other cheek’? Why didn’t your God send Jesus (peace be upon him) before Moses (peace be upon him) and other prophets ?

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    And in response to the issue of contradictions; it is these contradictions that allude to it's truth, the contradictory nature of the encounters Jesus had and how they were recorded differently is testimony to true human nature; not a media friendly concoction; this was different people seeing the same event differently; this is reality

  • @mikecorbeil
    @mikecorbeil 12 років тому

    Well, some New Testament scripture describes or speaks of Yeshua having at least sometimes debated with Jews. I don't know about "all the time" though. After all, he also did other things and got some sleep once in a while, f.e. When he ate, slept, women washed his feet, or he traveled, he wasn't always debating. 1 time he didn't debate is when he threw Jewish money changers out of a temple of worship. No time for words. Just throw them out. :)

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    If he is beyond our " human mentality "..... it is entirely reasonable not to put human limitations on him; no problem for a Father to visit his creation; how would we recognise God otherwise ? A cloud of smoke with a voice booming out ? It makes absolute sense God can visit us as spirit and word; that word being Jesus

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Matthew, 28:18-19 is the most notable verse

  • @mikecorbeil
    @mikecorbeil 12 років тому

    Yeshua wasn't taking credit for having healed the leper. Instead, he told the leper that it was thanks to his faith & God the Father, or Mother, if you prefer (after all, He lacks no qualities, since He's a complete God), & to thank only God the Father who sent Yeshua, aka Jesus. At the Garden of Gethsamane, he prayed to God the Father to remove the "cup" of death, but then relinquished his will to that of God the Father & said, "May your Will be done".
    Many Christians don't pay ATTENTION.

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Because they would see things differently....don't we ? It points to the uniqueness of each individual person which is in itself a testimony to the Greatness of God...wouldn't you agree with that view ?

  • @gniwoed6494
    @gniwoed6494 11 років тому

    Your God & my God is the same. There must be only one God of all humankind so there's no use to argue which is the real & better one. Since our religion is attached to our way of life, therefore, those countries that have good quality of life can tell the world that they have a religion that have good influence in their lives. Books & teachings can become obsolete, we must open ourselves to new ideas & better thinking in order to improve ourselves with this modernizing world.

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    That is correct, but at the beginning of John he proclaims the Word of God as Jesus, the one who came to proclaim God; and gave us the Our Father and the beatitudes and the parables whihc resonate today; he did not come as a King like some, did not lead an army like others, did extraordinary things with ordinary people, how good is that for each and every person irrespective of religion or none ?

  • @ilyatesvityan3810
    @ilyatesvityan3810 8 років тому

    Colossians, 2:6 - As therefore you received Christ Jesus, the Lord, walk in him,!!!!!!!!!!

  • @dormjo10
    @dormjo10 11 років тому

    3rd Jesus demanded to his mother's feeding when he was born on his mother's womb could he died before the cross if he didn't ate? 4th when Magdalene saw Jesus(pbuh) he said to disciples that she saw him and Jesus said if you not trus me come handle ME or give me some meat to eat this is a proof that he did that he didn't died

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    Do you think the Christian Theologians didn't know these things ? Why do you think it was in parenthisis ? Taking it out makes no difference to what is claimed in that passage anyway; if you have read it you will know this. The characteristic is of humanity; any human person can make an error and it does not detract from the central message, irrespective of which language it is in

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    God has no image ! He appoints righteous men among us to tell mankind about the nature of God and what he needs from us. and do you know how problematic the reductive literalism is ? How do we decide if it is a commandment of God or means something else ?. Thanks to you too. Assalamu Alaikum (Peace be upon you) :-)

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    What does it matter ? This is the historical narrative element, it is like asking a man how many children he has; do you know how many children are illegitimate today ? Who don't know their real father, some women have 3 children and a father for each one...this type of behaviour has not changed ... it is historical narrative...read it as such ...the bit about God is where David listens to his conscience and does the right thing

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    And yet God is with us...all the time. There is a story that God wanted to hide from man who was always looking for help and forgiveness...so he hid in the heart of man so no-one would find him and he could have some rest....this would be true regrettably in so many cases

  • @rotaryman2144
    @rotaryman2144 12 років тому

    Well said brother, jazaak allah khair

  • @ilyatesvityan3810
    @ilyatesvityan3810 8 років тому

    “I will make him my firstborn” (Psalm 89:27; emphasis added). If Christ was the “firstborn” (Son) literally and eternally, how can this be portrayed as a future event? no biblical text speaks of an “eternal generation” or an “eternal procession” of the pre-incarnate Christ. Isaiah declared that the virgin would “conceive” and “bear a son,” whose name would be called Immanuel (7:14; Matthew 1:22-23).Later Isaiah prophetically declared, “a child is born, a son is given” (9:6). Does not this connect the role of being “son” with that of the birth of the child? If not, how can one ever have confidence in the meaningful interpretation of language? And if the “son” of this text is an “eternal son,” would this also imply that the “child” is an “eternal child”? The “eternal sonship” notion contradicts the explicit testimony of scripture. The angel Gabriel informed Mary that her miraculously conceived child “shall be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:32, 35) - not that he always has been such.“By the word also (‘therefore also’) the angel alludes to his preceding words: He shall be called Son of the Highest because God by the power of the Holy Spirit caused this supernatural conception, and created baby as Son for Himself! “Son of God” Prior To Physical Birth.The expression “son of God” is applied to Christ more than 40 times in the New Testament. In not a single case is it used of his existence before he was born of Mary (Barnes, 21).It is important to note that in the Prologue of John’s Gospel (1:1-14), the Second Person in the Godhead is referred to as the Word (logos) in depicting his pre-incarnate state; it is only after the reference to the Word becoming “flesh” that the apostle begins to use the term “Son”

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    @no1hoopsman yes of course I stand for justice for everyone but MUslims have a duty to convey the message of pure monotheism and fight to remove our misconceptions.

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    so which verse in Samuel is true then? how many children did Michal the daughter of Saul have ?

  • @shininglamb
    @shininglamb 12 років тому

    God has no image //
    God created Human in His Image. I don't think there is any problem with reductive liberalism, because those who seek God, will find it anyway. Like for example, in Jesus times, it was the fishermen who knew and accepted Messiah , not the Jewish scholars .

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    do you at least get my point. This is exactly why I say that the bible is not preserved. How many more parenthisis type stuff are included ? when are we gonna isolate the pure word of God ? You yourself and all christians prove my point.

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    More Literalism !! Taking the passage and others into context it is clear that Jesus is showing this person the way; it is not a denial of himself, that would have been put differently anyway if it had been, and these passages are minute in comparison to the overall confirmation of Jesus as God, not only in word but in action

  • @r3pect4p1mp
    @r3pect4p1mp 11 років тому

    ‘Son of God’ is a term used in ancient Hebrew for a righteous person. God calls Israel his ‘son’: This is what the LORD says: Israel is my oldest son.[Exodus 4:22]. Also, David is called the ‘Son of God’: The LORD has said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.’ [Psalm 2:7]. In fact anyone who is righteous is referred to as God’s ‘son’: All who are led by God’s Spirit are God’s sons and daughters. [Romans 8:14].

  • @fredycharles7910
    @fredycharles7910 11 років тому

    Watch the last days of Deedat (pbuh)...just google last days of deedat ....... and decide for yourself...life is full of decisions whether you take,believe or not!!!!
    y

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    John 4:5-42, This encounter is like an Iraqi Muslim meeting a US Soldier who has not only burned the Koran but killed some of the Muslim kids for no reason...you get the picture ? She is an outcast as a lady of loose character, she recognises Jesus slowly, calling him a Jew, then a Man, then Sir, then Lord, then she goes back to tell her village...some say she should be the first Apostle

  • @maryamkhan2162
    @maryamkhan2162 12 років тому

    Not necessarily. If we understand that God is One and is beyond imagination and it is impossible to perceive his nature, that I think is sufficient. Of course I investigate these contradictions and the reasons that are given to me did not satisfy me just as at first the concept of polygamy in Islam did not make sense. It took months for me to realise God's wisdom in accepting polygamy.

  • @IgboAbroad
    @IgboAbroad 11 років тому

    I think that you are old enough to understand that this is about your lives . It is either that you humble yourselves and obey or die the everlasting death ...while you wait for the lake of fire ,where you shall be tormented for eternity. Come ,learn about The True Christ ..the ONE that was crucified and died on The Cross . Come and show him that you love him by keeping the Commandments AND YOU SHALL LIVE !! The God of the Holy Bible shall keep His promise that He made to you in Isaiah 56.

  • @niyas65
    @niyas65 12 років тому

    you said jesus and father in heaven and the holy sprit are one and the same thing ...is tht rite..?? if tht is the case how come the word trinity is not mentioned in the bible.
    the verse john 10:30 he says i and my father are one in the purpose of keeping his disciples on the straight path not in terms of equlity in devinity or power like wat u think... 17:21 says all things are equal to god (common ppl ,satan, father,jesus)
    other 2 verses he sady ye are gods not i am god. there is a difference

  • @no1hoopsman
    @no1hoopsman 12 років тому

    I wasn't thinking of Jihad; I just wonder why you would use a word like "fight" if you want to attract people to your beliefe system,the word fight doesn't fit in modern vocabulary in any other sense than a physical one, it has that "crusade" element about it; this is just as abhorent a word in my opinion, Struggle would be a much more apt meaning as we will always struggle to fully define God...don't you agree ?

  • @sabahsafar4056
    @sabahsafar4056 11 років тому

    i used to be a Christian, & i left Christianity embraced Islam in 2004, why i chosed Islam, here is the reason, Islam is the only religion who believe in only 1 true God the 1 who created Jesus, i have read the Holly Bible so many times, Jesus never claimed DIVINITY, Mark12 verse29 Jesus said Hear, O Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is one? Mark11 verse12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry, if Jesus was God, what kind of God is that he gets hungry, come on explain to me

  • @Gordenfremaniswahaj1
    @Gordenfremaniswahaj1 11 років тому

    no thats not what he said it is that he said to not give ayesha in marrige untilll she was of age you are quoting the exact opposite hadith

  • @DrClayOptimus
    @DrClayOptimus 4 роки тому +2

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    ALLAH says in the Qur'an to prophet Muhammad, and also to all those who believe:
    "Tell them: 'O people of the book (people of the law and gospel), come to common terms as between us and you - We worship none but ALLAH, We associate NO partners with Him and we donot erect among ourselves lords and patrons other than ALLAH' then if they turn back, tell them: 'You bear witness that we are Muslims (bowing our will to ALMIGHTY ALLAH)'"
    - QURAN Ch:3 V:64
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    ALLAH says in the Qur'an:
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    for him is the Hell fire, therein he shall neither live nor die"
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