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  • @shinecomics
    @shinecomics  20 днів тому +1296

    GO BUY PUBLIC DOMAIN BY CHIP ZDARSKY!

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. 17 днів тому +2

      @@shinecomics I gotta buy this book!!!

    • @blobfishman977
      @blobfishman977 16 днів тому +2

      Bro you gotta fix your mic I feel like you're standing right behind me

    • @TheFunnyDictator
      @TheFunnyDictator 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@blobfishman977 Is that a bad thing or a good thing, bruh, dude?

    • @TheFunnyDictator
      @TheFunnyDictator 16 днів тому +1

      ​​@@blobfishman977Also, what does that bio mean, bruh, dude?!

    • @blobfishman977
      @blobfishman977 16 днів тому +1

      @@TheFunnyDictator not so good because your cutting in and out of both

  • @nathanhernandez1126
    @nathanhernandez1126 3 місяці тому +10278

    Bill finger and batman

  • @miguelperez9906
    @miguelperez9906 3 місяці тому +9090

    Didn’t the guy who made the Thor movies say he hadn’t even read Thor comics at all. So this really fits.

    • @paladinluke37
      @paladinluke37 3 місяці тому +179

      Which one? There's been three directiors

    • @elmisfit09
      @elmisfit09 2 місяці тому +1009

      ​@@paladinluke37 Taika, he said je tried to read one but full asleep, and that he doesn't care about Norse mythology nor culture

    • @afro4640
      @afro4640 2 місяці тому +600

      @@elmisfit09 It shows.

    • @tacotuttle
      @tacotuttle 2 місяці тому +558

      @@elmisfit09 Jesus, why would he ever even admit to that

    • @shoopydoopy6062
      @shoopydoopy6062 Місяць тому +69

      @@elmisfit09 that’s so based to admit that

  • @gp-1542
    @gp-1542 Місяць тому +4770

    Moral of the story
    Get a lawyer, a good lawyer

    • @JoaoMarquinhoooooooos
      @JoaoMarquinhoooooooos 23 дні тому +141

      BETTER CALL SAUL!

    • @vihuynhquang5204
      @vihuynhquang5204 21 день тому +37

      And a gun

    • @jestyo0o
      @jestyo0o 21 день тому +31

      @@JoaoMarquinhoooooooos I instantly knew there was gonna be reply like this lmao

    • @Mysweetdoppio
      @Mysweetdoppio 21 день тому +9

      A Good(man) lawyer, I would say

    • @TheSalemCrow
      @TheSalemCrow 21 день тому +21

      A better idea would be to NOT work for any of the big companies who own anything you create (DC/Marvel). With Image you get to keep the rights, but you'd still need a good lawyer if you wanted it adapted into anything past comics.

  • @isabellebread9773
    @isabellebread9773 3 місяці тому +2388

    Jack Kirby, Steve ditko

    • @Kind_of_Human
      @Kind_of_Human 2 місяці тому +34

      Thank u I thought I wouldn't see Steve here he fr the goat

    • @EEAEE616
      @EEAEE616 2 місяці тому +14

      Until ditko read those ayn rand thingies

    • @dolier2802
      @dolier2802 2 місяці тому +54

      @@EEAEE616 That's really irrelevant to his involvement in the creation of Spider-Man and Doctor Strange

    • @YIOMMI-oo5yb
      @YIOMMI-oo5yb 2 місяці тому +2

      didn't he plotted
      That protesters issue?

    • @edgonlo17
      @edgonlo17 2 місяці тому +3

      You mean the issue where he didn’t care about the protesters? Also Didn’t Romita SR era did almost the same?

  • @alejandrogonzalez00
    @alejandrogonzalez00 3 місяці тому +3937

    This needs to be adapted into either a movie or a tv series so that it can be seen everywhere to how comic creators have been treated for the longest time

    • @BalancedtheScales
      @BalancedtheScales 3 місяці тому +180

      That the actors and director won’t care about and then botch the message to put themselves in a better light

    • @alejandrogonzalez00
      @alejandrogonzalez00 3 місяці тому +70

      @@BalancedtheScales then I guess they’d hav to find the right people who would actually care about making it

    • @BalancedtheScales
      @BalancedtheScales 3 місяці тому +35

      @@alejandrogonzalez00
      I guess
      I just don’t have that much hope in film media right now

    • @alejandrogonzalez00
      @alejandrogonzalez00 3 місяці тому +6

      @@BalancedtheScales I know what you mean man

    • @notproductiveproductions3504
      @notproductiveproductions3504 3 місяці тому

      Hollywood would do everything in their power to prevent production

  • @living_migz
    @living_migz 3 місяці тому +5304

    Spiderman was not a good example we all cried when Stan Lee died

    • @stephonmanny7555
      @stephonmanny7555 3 місяці тому +1163

      He had to sued marvel in 2002 because they weren’t paying his share from the movies.

    • @AmphotericcMike
      @AmphotericcMike 3 місяці тому +511

      It's not that people dislike/dont care about him, its about the fact that he among other writers often get shafted on their own creations, losing rights, profit or even acknowledgement from the big corporations outside of maybe a cameo or big event

    • @hoodlum4511
      @hoodlum4511 3 місяці тому +486

      How about Steve ditko?

    • @stephonmanny7555
      @stephonmanny7555 3 місяці тому +181

      Apparently he was abused in his last years of life by his business partners according to his family.

    • @That_Web_Guy1810
      @That_Web_Guy1810 3 місяці тому +389

      The Irony that you didn’t mention Steve Ditko. 😔

  • @D3A7h518
    @D3A7h518 2 місяці тому +1176

    Steve Ditko comes to mind, being a vital part of the industry but in life he never really got what he deserved or even wanted until he went indie, but even that was more of an underground thing away from all the glitz and glamour of his former repute

    • @freehamm
      @freehamm 21 день тому +11

      he also had a thing for femdom and incorporated it into the comics

    • @edgarsalazar5521
      @edgarsalazar5521 15 днів тому +4

      To be fair Steve really didn’t speak much he just let his work speak for itself and even when offered money for the Spider-Man films he declined it now does have to do with anything no clue just wanted to add this

    • @D3A7h518
      @D3A7h518 15 днів тому +1

      @@edgarsalazar5521 that’s true but there’s more to it. Him not taking money from the movies probably a byproduct of him not checking checks he got from spider-man back when he was writhing him, plus him not publicly speaking has to do with Objectivism’s view of art, that being that the artist shouldn’t have explain one’s art, let it speak for it self. And he carried that out further than even it’s own creator

    • @14DANESSJ
      @14DANESSJ 15 днів тому

      Atleast Stan Lee acknowledged him.
      Unlike Bob Kane

    • @edgarsalazar5521
      @edgarsalazar5521 15 днів тому

      @@14DANESSJ well kinda Stan still considers himself as sole creator because he had the idea but yeah bob kane is real way worse

  • @marvellexikon8843
    @marvellexikon8843 2 місяці тому +486

    RIP Bill Finger😢

  • @RichardWilliams-zb4eo
    @RichardWilliams-zb4eo Місяць тому +520

    This is a pretty true comic. And here's a real view on the realistic aspects of this. When Hugh Jackman was asked to play Wolverine, he thought he was literally going to be an animal. He showed app and he didn't even know who Wolverine from the x men was yet. He continued to play the character, not knowing who this popular character was that was around way before his career and made his career. True story

    • @andreimario5632
      @andreimario5632 23 дні тому +147

      @@RichardWilliams-zb4eo yes, except Hugh Jackman actually cares about Wolverine now, and has grown fond of him

    • @ginogatash4030
      @ginogatash4030 23 дні тому +80

      I really dont see the ussue with him not knowing Wolverine, like directors are there for a reason, you don't need to research and study decades of publication to get ready for the role, it certainly helps if you got that knowledge, but I don't agree with the notion that everyone on a production needs to be fan of the material adapted, being a fan doesn't mean you automatically know how to tell a good story, or even understand the character you're a fan of, Spiderman Lotus is painful proof of this.
      At the end of the day it's a creative process, and professionalism and creativity are the most important, a wikipedia knowledge of the source material for the sake of fan service alone is worthless, some of the best movies aren't that faithful of an adaptation but still rock, plus current superhero adaptations tend to suck because of all the money in the industry, every producer wants to ensure it sells and end up suffocating the project with bad decisions in serve of profit.

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 21 день тому +20

      @@RichardWilliams-zb4eo well in the end he is considered one of the best casting for a character

    • @theGhostSteward
      @theGhostSteward 20 днів тому +10

      ​@ginogatash4030 yes and no... like... I don't have much formal study in theater but it's enough experience to know how much teather actors care about the characters. Maybe the reason is how many times they do the same character and expose themselves to it (you definitely see this in some works from Hugh Jackman such as les Miserables and the Greatest showman). But with hero movies it's seems like the show biss people tell: they just go to the gym, put a coolant and show up...

    • @ginogatash4030
      @ginogatash4030 20 днів тому +10

      @@theGhostSteward well I don't know what you expect, getting trained in theatre means you learn shit about theatre and famous plays meaning they're likely to be into theatre stuff more, though they still obviously can fall in love with superhero roles too, and if not for the series for the acting job at least.
      It's like being surprised at superhero comicbook writers and artists being absolute nerds of Marvel and DC stuff while knowing nothing about manga and anime, it's not impossible to be into both but most creatives are just more likely to enjoy stuff relative to their specialization than other stuff.

  • @SketchIsBored
    @SketchIsBored 3 місяці тому +406

    Superman is the best example of this

    • @lukefortune8314
      @lukefortune8314 Місяць тому +5

      how. i do wonder

    • @dumbly-stupid
      @dumbly-stupid Місяць тому

      @lukefortune8314 superman was bought for only $2,814 (that's counting for inflation since 1938) and the creators were reaped of royalties

    • @FLAMEBERGE-LCB
      @FLAMEBERGE-LCB 22 дні тому +12

      @@lukefortune8314 Kid named Injustice Superman:

    • @GloriousSquizoKing.
      @GloriousSquizoKing. 22 дні тому +35

      @@lukefortune8314 Just look at most of the popular series today. The Boys and Invencible, even Injustice Superman are main examples we have of people taking a "piece" of the idea of Superman and just making it dark and edgy.

    • @adarshsridhar6051
      @adarshsridhar6051 22 дні тому +34

      @@GloriousSquizoKing.That’s different, it’s taking the idea of Superman and twisting it and showing a different way to portray him. It’s not actually having him, in his original form, in that way. The injustice Superman is an AU of him. Invincible and boys aren’t even in the same continuity.

  • @YumeArtysie
    @YumeArtysie 13 днів тому +15

    This why we get so happy when an actor confesses they're a fan of the character they're playing

  • @MichaelJEngelmann
    @MichaelJEngelmann 3 місяці тому +486

    I’m a bigger DC guy than Marvel but I loved both since a kid. When Stan Lee died & his daughter said Disney didn’t treat him good, other fans said Disney did treat him good because they put him in their movies. They wouldn’t have those movies if it weren’t for him & others. And just bc they publicly loved him doesn’t mean he was always treated that way. A multi billion dollar company I can easily see them having a show pony but behind closed doors they treat them less than dirt. I can see that.

    • @Joey-vs4fr
      @Joey-vs4fr 3 місяці тому +18

      I heard from a UA-camr called Charles Peralo that even his own daughter overworked him
      Did you mistype something

    • @Inventorcoyote
      @Inventorcoyote 2 місяці тому +46

      I wouldn’t trust the word of Stanley’s daughter she has done some pretty horrible things with her father’s fame and status while he was alive

    • @Joey-vs4fr
      @Joey-vs4fr 2 місяці тому +5

      @@MichaelJEngelmann excuse me, I was just asking if you mistyped something, because that’s certainly not what I heard
      What makes you think we’re bots

    • @Joey-vs4fr
      @Joey-vs4fr 2 місяці тому +4

      @@MichaelJEngelmann what’s with you calling us bots

    • @Joey-vs4fr
      @Joey-vs4fr 2 місяці тому +3

      @@MichaelJEngelmann 🙄

  • @jtjelani
    @jtjelani 16 днів тому +8

    The sad reality of the relationship between comics and Hollywood makes me incredibly grateful for actors like Downey, Hamill, Boseman, and even those dudes who made Clone High and now work on Spider-verse because their projects would be NOTHING without them and others actually respecting and loving the stories they build on

  • @GuiltlessGear
    @GuiltlessGear 3 місяці тому +184

    Thanks for shining a spotlight on this.

  • @darthazgorath9570
    @darthazgorath9570 3 місяці тому +179

    I can't remember if it was Joe Schuster for Jerry Siegel that this story is referring to, but after selling the rights to Superman, one of them was found as a bellow minimum wage usher at a New York movie theater showing Richard Donner's Superman movie.

    • @ExemAwkan
      @ExemAwkan 17 днів тому +5

      @@darthazgorath9570 damn that's got to hurt

    • @edgarsalazar5521
      @edgarsalazar5521 15 днів тому +2

      No they were paid for the flocks by that time but yeah they were fucked over

  • @BeorOng
    @BeorOng 16 днів тому +8

    Actors who actually loved comics and pushed back on producers made their characters more iconic and loved in the end - henry cavills superman, ryan reynolds deadpool, all 3 spidermen, and im gonna throw in inaki godoy as luffy as a manga adaption...when a character is actually treated the way it deserves those adaptions have done well cause it lives up to expectations

  • @salimstibbsstibbs9354
    @salimstibbsstibbs9354 Місяць тому +192

    Superman sitting in the corner like he wasn’t the first and most known hero ever

    • @T_Dragon7777
      @T_Dragon7777 22 дні тому +14

      What about The Phantom? He was made before Superman.

    • @TakeMinamoto
      @TakeMinamoto 21 день тому +40

      @@T_Dragon7777 as much as I love that people call attention to The Phantom, as he was the progenitor of many tropes we now associate to comic book heroes (tight bodysuit with trunks, domino mask with white eyes), it was Superman the one that exploded in popularity and established the super hero genre as we know it

    • @T_Dragon7777
      @T_Dragon7777 21 день тому +5

      @@TakeMinamoto agreed. But we can’t forget The Phantom.

    • @Another_Hibiki
      @Another_Hibiki 21 день тому +6

      Golden Bat predates Superman by 8 years and Phantom by 6, making his debut on traveling shows... even if he is not as popular as Superman (outside of Japan).

    • @noonerulesmeBLUD
      @noonerulesmeBLUD 20 днів тому +1

      @@salimstibbsstibbs9354 what about golden bat? He was literally the first

  • @fadillah6014
    @fadillah6014 2 місяці тому +217

    Artist really can't get rest didnt they

    • @dr.ludvigmaxis2636
      @dr.ludvigmaxis2636 2 місяці тому +5

      What?

    • @themanonthewallgammairradi8763
      @themanonthewallgammairradi8763 2 місяці тому +2

      @@dr.ludvigmaxis2636 Huh?!

    • @fadillah6014
      @fadillah6014 Місяць тому +8

      @@dr.ludvigmaxis2636 I meant isn't that clear enough? From past till now they either had miserable life or straight up exploited.

    • @micahchaplin536
      @micahchaplin536 23 дні тому +2

      @@themanonthewallgammairradi8763 I think they are referring to the terrible grammar.

    • @fadillah6014
      @fadillah6014 23 дні тому

      @@micahchaplin536 is my grammar really that bad? How should I typed it to make it better?

  • @thedarkpixel6087
    @thedarkpixel6087 22 дні тому +5

    I don't think using AI in the video helps getting the respect for creators point across, seems contradictory, if you value artists and creators who put their soul on characters and Art don't use AI

    • @RjGoombes
      @RjGoombes 22 дні тому +1

      Exactly what i was thinking.

  • @skits2240
    @skits2240 2 місяці тому +74

    Bill Finger

  • @MoroccanRose85
    @MoroccanRose85 2 місяці тому +39

    And this is why Image comics was created. Shoutout to Wildstorm.

  • @popeye697
    @popeye697 15 днів тому +2

    Steve Ditko. Jack Kirby is a close second. Jack is the one who actually designed Spidermans costume

  • @sandflame5811
    @sandflame5811 21 день тому +3

    This is why I am grateful that Twitter exists, you can publish your work yourself, yes you may not have that many followers but you will have some and that is already a start

  • @Noobnormality
    @Noobnormality 2 місяці тому +48

    Heroes really had it rough these days, even the people i know would favor ridiculously comical characters for the sake of shock value over those that actually inspire.

  • @sitthefreakdownboi1873
    @sitthefreakdownboi1873 25 днів тому +5

    I mean we did get The Batman(2022) and we are soon getting Spider-man 4 in the MCU and on the plus side did you know that Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man is the closest we have on a live action comic accurate Spider-Man

  • @Zminator1986
    @Zminator1986 20 днів тому +2

    Sounds like what Disney and Warner Bros are doing nowadays.

  • @shinecomics
    @shinecomics  3 місяці тому +652

    FULL VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL!

    • @Deimosviva
      @Deimosviva 3 місяці тому

      Now imagine some talentless hacks make a raceswaped knock off of said character and morons like you eat it up 🤡

    • @miekwavesoundlab
      @miekwavesoundlab 2 місяці тому +2

      Which video tit le?

    • @SkipHooper
      @SkipHooper 2 місяці тому +3

      Thats why Todd is smart he keeps every rights to Spawn.

    • @Deimosviva
      @Deimosviva 2 місяці тому

      Now imagine they make a diverse knock off and an overweight moron glazes them constantly.

    • @Nord_Meadly
      @Nord_Meadly 26 днів тому

      @@shinecomics where would I find this I don’t live near a comic store anymore so do you have any online suggestions?

  • @ShatteredQvartz
    @ShatteredQvartz Місяць тому +25

    Funnily enough, it's IP retention and hoarding, and not entering the Public Domain what is doing this to characters

    • @reddytoplay9188
      @reddytoplay9188 10 днів тому

      yeah idk if the author named it public domain because it is more catchy or he just doesn't understand the problem and thinks selling your IP to a business is public domain

  • @kamenrideruniter4503
    @kamenrideruniter4503 2 місяці тому +50

    Marvel to stan lee in a nutshell:

    • @thesmilyguyguy9799
      @thesmilyguyguy9799 Місяць тому +8

      @@kamenrideruniter4503 more Like Marvel And DC To Jake Kirby

    • @ginogatash4030
      @ginogatash4030 23 дні тому +5

      What the fuck are you talking about? They've had the man cameo in near every film and he got mega rich, if anything this describes gis collaborators who got shafted like Jack Kirbi or Steve Ditko.

    • @thesmilyguyguy9799
      @thesmilyguyguy9799 23 дні тому

      @@ginogatash4030 yes

    • @reynaldolima5171
      @reynaldolima5171 16 днів тому +1

      Stan Lee to dikto and kirby

    • @thesmilyguyguy9799
      @thesmilyguyguy9799 16 днів тому

      @@reynaldolima5171 true Ture

  • @HypedHazard456
    @HypedHazard456 2 місяці тому +9

    Meanwhile, the opposite is the case for mangas. Fans care a little too much for the creators

  • @kevinruddock6837
    @kevinruddock6837 2 місяці тому +12

    Soooooooo basically Disney

  • @Groggle7141
    @Groggle7141 2 місяці тому +9

    Why'd you use an AI Spider-Man at the beginning?

  • @AzathothTheTrueGod
    @AzathothTheTrueGod 2 місяці тому +30

    Most fans don’t even care about the creators or the people who do the work. It’s the nature of consumerism.

    • @joserobertosolismerlin5527
      @joserobertosolismerlin5527 22 дні тому +3

      @@AzathothTheTrueGod I care

    • @AzathothTheTrueGod
      @AzathothTheTrueGod 22 дні тому +3

      @@joserobertosolismerlin5527 Good. My point remains though. People claim ownership of things they’re fans of and then get mad when it’s not specifically for them.

    • @Another_Hibiki
      @Another_Hibiki 21 день тому +1

      ​@@AzathothTheTrueGodExcept for some of Star Wars and Indiana Jones, i generally only see it happening as you described when there is a new writter trashing on the creator's original vision that so many fans became fond (something that is one of the points of the comic from this shorts), specially if it is politically motivated.

    • @AzathothTheTrueGod
      @AzathothTheTrueGod 19 днів тому +7

      @@Another_Hibiki I disagree because people get mad that X-Men is “woke” when the original vision was ALWAYS an allegory for discriminated people. Not a great one because the X-Men have powers that could easily kill large groups of people but still.
      Punisher always hated seeing cops with his logo because as he says “that’s not for people who are supposed to be good”. Yet people still get mad when you mention that even though it’s the writers vision. He’s aware of who he is and that he’s not a “good guy”.
      If Superman came out today he’d be called woke because he was made by two Jewish immigrants who wished for a hero that would stop all the bigotry and inspire people to be the best of humanity. He even for a time renounced his citizenship when there were some Luthor shenanigans.
      People got mad when Captain America said he sees all Americans as equal and wasn’t a warmonger with an “ends justify the means” mentality”. When Falcon became his sidekick people said it was pandering. When he didn’t want illegals to be harmed people got upset even though he mentioned why the immigration process is at times sluggish. When he changed his costume people said he was “siding with illegals” because it looked kinda like Puerto Rican flag with the chevrons. And when he was killed during Civil War people said it was to insult the US.
      Comics in general go through constant changes, retcons, reboots, revivals, deaths etc and fans today get too angry about it. A lot of the edgy extreme 90s redesigns from when I was a kid were hated. Punisher died twice, was an Angel, a magic wielder, and when he was killed by Wolverines son was put back together as “Frank-N-Castle”.
      People forget that some folks had issues with Storm and Colossus when they came out. Because Storm was black, and Colossus was a Russian who everyone thought would make the XMen commies. People had an issue with Miles Morales for being black and Hispanic.
      It’s why people say “this isn’t MY Marvel/DC” because they demand ownership and don’t want anyone else to do the same. People take it way too seriously and think any change or disagreement is a personal attack.
      When it comes to the movies those are made ENTIRELY to cater to younger people and make money. People pretend like they’re the comics and are meant for those in their 30s-40s. Same with Star Wars. We liked them as kids.
      Hell people are upset that POKÉMON is “too easy now” and not that they played them as literal CHILDREN with child brains. They aren’t meant for adults but they can play them if they want.
      That’s what I’m getting at. I understand when things are market tested to hit the quadrants and have to have a checklist of ethnicity, sexuality, body type, sex. But that’s been around since Captain Planet. It’s just much more blatant to an insulting degree.

    • @AzathothTheTrueGod
      @AzathothTheTrueGod 19 днів тому +3

      @@Another_Hibiki Sorry for the long message. But I thought you deserved a substantial answer with full context. I know that’s not everyone btw. Nor am I saying anyone with any issue is wrong. Many criticisms are valid just wrong when they feel personally hurt.

  • @orangeyellow-me1pz
    @orangeyellow-me1pz 3 місяці тому +26

    I dont know, ryan seems to be doing an amazing job as dead pool.

    • @IMachineHeadI
      @IMachineHeadI 3 місяці тому +22

      There’s always exceptions

    • @notproductiveproductions3504
      @notproductiveproductions3504 3 місяці тому +12

      Ryan’s the exception

    • @HectorPryorYT
      @HectorPryorYT 2 місяці тому +5

      Ryan's great

    • @martialedits4335
      @martialedits4335 2 місяці тому +14

      Deadpool not the best example. Ryan's not truly playing the hollow, cheap knock off character Rob Liefeild created more so the Joe Kelly and later writer and artists interpretations of the character.

    • @amphere9147
      @amphere9147 21 день тому +3

      There's Ryan and Henry cavil

  • @asaknight321
    @asaknight321 3 місяці тому +24

    I need everyone at Warner bros and Disney especially at star wars and marvel to see this: You either pay respect to the thing you're working on, to the fans, to the OG creator, and for actors to do justice to the characters they're playing as or using or you get the hell out. Unfortunately warner bros and Disney have lost that golden rule

    • @vihuynhquang5204
      @vihuynhquang5204 21 день тому +2

      Lost, or deliberately ignored?

    • @tabaributler2225
      @tabaributler2225 21 день тому +2

      @@asaknight321 lately all the stories that I hear about how works get ruined by corporation greed have made me feel like the fans, original artists or someone should start a large boycott on corporations until they get it through their thick skulls that you can't just be in it for the money, you're also doing it for people who take an interest in your stuff.

    • @tantheman4512
      @tantheman4512 15 днів тому +1

      Mostly Disney

  • @DahGabriel-gk2cr
    @DahGabriel-gk2cr 2 місяці тому +23

    An example is Superman

  • @Sans-ns2ms
    @Sans-ns2ms 23 дні тому +3

    Saitama most realistic hero

  • @diffish2701
    @diffish2701 Місяць тому +3

    The Love and passion of art is not the desire and want for fame and wealth

  • @WallNutBreaker524
    @WallNutBreaker524 21 день тому +2

    This is why Indie Entertainment is the Future.

  • @mrlgreenthunder7138
    @mrlgreenthunder7138 2 місяці тому +3

    I get that a lot of actors and directors of the movies don’t care, but at least it’s not true for all of them. Some actors and directors are huge fans of the movies and series they create, and I think that shows.

  • @silentnight3192
    @silentnight3192 22 дні тому +3

    In other words, Modern Hollywood?

  • @silverbane266
    @silverbane266 15 днів тому +1

    This is pretty much accurate which does saddens me.

  • @chis-ee9eo
    @chis-ee9eo 2 місяці тому +15

    This show comic are being run down by greedy people who are in charge how big company who make too much money well disrespected Creator and fan base just because they rich

  • @jk7102
    @jk7102 3 місяці тому +6

    Dragon Ball evolution... RIP Toriyama...the actor who played Goku apologized for messing it up😢

    • @AstraFulminous
      @AstraFulminous 3 місяці тому +6

      Nah it wasn't Justin. He actually read up on the material. It was the script writer who apologized, because he had rushed the film ,and even then he had only gotten the job because Fox tried to maintain their rights for a film and didn't care how. And even then when he had turned in a better script closer to the original Fox kept turning them down. Leading to no one caring for Toriyama's view on set. And as a result a horrible film.
      Later the english voice actor for Zamasu, who had also read up on DB and also played Piccolo in Evolution it was explained by English Voice Cas for the Anime how he also apologized in his own way and took on the role of Zamasu for free because he wanted to make it back to the fans.
      The resulting poor treatment of Dragon Ball via Evolution is also what went on to motivate Toriyama into creating Dragon Ball Super citing that he had grown more attached to Dragon Ball than he thought and how he wanted to see it done right.

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 19 днів тому

      ​​@@AstraFulminousJustin Chatwin recently apologized after Toriyama died

  • @miningfordiamonds7978
    @miningfordiamonds7978 2 місяці тому +37

    Some superheroes/villains this has happened to/happening to
    The flash and most of his villains
    Green arrow
    Dr fate
    Green lantern
    Batman
    Hulk
    Jane foster
    Scarlet witch
    Ant-man
    She-hulk
    Thor
    Harley quinn
    Joker
    Black widow
    Fantastic four
    Iron fist
    Captain marvel
    QuickSilver
    Dr. Doom
    Luke cage
    Superman
    Deadshot
    Black Adam
    Killmonger
    Aquaman
    Suicide Squad
    Superheroes/villains that have remained their integrity (imo)
    Spiderman
    Dr strange- for now
    Darkseid
    Thanos
    Guardians of the galaxy
    Black Panther
    Captain America
    Xmen except for the apocalypse movie
    Mr. Freeze
    Poison ivy
    Deadpool
    Wolverine
    Huntress
    Question
    Ra’s’al ghul
    Doomsday
    Lex luthor
    Jason todd
    Nightwing
    Damian
    Iron man
    Daredevil
    Punisher
    Loki
    Odin
    Hel
    Gorr

    • @bepisthescienceman4202
      @bepisthescienceman4202 15 днів тому

      Wdym?

    • @miningfordiamonds7978
      @miningfordiamonds7978 15 днів тому

      @@bepisthescienceman4202 you want me to explain every character here? Pick a few and i’ll explain from there

    • @bepisthescienceman4202
      @bepisthescienceman4202 15 днів тому

      @@miningfordiamonds7978 no I just mean what do you mean

    • @miningfordiamonds7978
      @miningfordiamonds7978 15 днів тому

      @@bepisthescienceman4202the video speaks about other creators ruining a superhero’s/villain’s reputation by either a shit comic or movie based on those characters.
      Like Joker is overused in comics and in movies, there is no reason to force Joker in on everything batman. Jared leto Joker ruined the joker, the game ruined him, the comics ruined him and it’s a fucking meme now where he is the jonkler since no one takes him serious anymore as what was an originally good character.
      I listed those superheroes/villains the same shit has happened to as the joker where their reputation is ruined by something fucking stupid.
      The 2nd list are characters i believe to be to their original spirit and made with love for the characters.

    • @bepisthescienceman4202
      @bepisthescienceman4202 14 днів тому

      @@miningfordiamonds7978 not really what the video is about the comic is more about the artist who made them and how they get shafted the movie could be the best in the world but it wouldn't matter cause what matters most if the original creator id given their time in the spotlight and the money

  • @Slicey1
    @Slicey1 16 днів тому +1

    ahh good ol’ chip zdarsky always makin the best comics

  • @daviddalton6094
    @daviddalton6094 2 місяці тому +3

    Sounds like Hollywood

  • @marcussantos188
    @marcussantos188 3 місяці тому +16

    Second time I’ve seen someone talk about this indie comic and maybe this will be the third one I give a shot.

    • @shinecomics
      @shinecomics  3 місяці тому +2

      PLEASE READ IT!!! I have a full video on my channel that talks more about the plot and stuff. Its really good!

  • @EMBEEAY
    @EMBEEAY 24 дні тому +11

    THIS is why I have a lot of faith in James Gunns DCU. Bro is the biggest comic nerd they could’ve chose at such a high level to direct the new era.

  • @oolooo
    @oolooo 19 днів тому +1

    Basically , if Tolkien was around to see Rings of Power .

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 19 днів тому

      Tolkien sold off the rights when he was still alive and that's why we got the subpar animated movies

  • @ZARG_the_ILL
    @ZARG_the_ILL 22 дні тому +1

    Star wars hits different 😔😔

  • @russellharrell2747
    @russellharrell2747 2 місяці тому +11

    Well, when the creators chose to go independent and formed Image all we got were edgy 90s super heroes. Even in the 80s we got dark and edgy Batman from Miller or the Charlton comics expys The Watchmen, but this and other examples were praised at the time and are now still held up as high art. The larger pattern is that Superheroes as a genre only seemed wholesome and sanitized during the Silver age when the Comics Code was first put into effect. Previously, Golden Age heroes were violent and dogmatic, only giving way in popularity to romance, horror, western and sci fi comics in the post war years. And as soon as the comics code was relaxed in the 70s we saw a return to the grittier side of super heroes, which continued throughout the dark 80s, the extreme 90s, and into the post 911 world that has permeated the 21st century.
    This video and the comic it presents has a grain of truth but seems to be ignorant of the overall history of comics and super heroes in general.

  • @silentshadowish
    @silentshadowish 3 місяці тому +11

    everyone knew who stan lee was, at least the comic community

    • @sergio1753
      @sergio1753 3 місяці тому +13

      What about Steve ditko?

    • @HELLO_KORO
      @HELLO_KORO 2 місяці тому +4

      Yet they don't know Chris Claremont who introduced everything that made the X men iconic and a bigotry allegory or Steve Ditko who introduced Spider-Mans iconic self loathing

    • @Swerv0.
      @Swerv0. 2 місяці тому +3

      But does everyone know all the other names that goes into making characters like that?

  • @GabrieLEX01
    @GabrieLEX01 15 днів тому

    It's come full circle, there are creatives in comics that don't care about comics and are just using it as a stepping stone to Hollywood

  • @theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613
    @theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613 14 днів тому +1

    Honestly, comic writers don’t even get anything as good as a courtesy invite to a movie premiere. The creator of the Winter Soldier showed up to the premiere of the film and was turned away.

  • @Ultras_450
    @Ultras_450 2 місяці тому +4

    That's the difference between Manga and comic book authors

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 19 днів тому +2

      I mean we don't know if the people that direct the anime always read the manga, let alone the people that make the live action adaptations

    • @Ultras_450
      @Ultras_450 18 днів тому

      @@ChangedMyNameFinally69 most directors read the source material and keep in touch with the mangakq

    • @ryanafriansyah7487
      @ryanafriansyah7487 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@ChangedMyNameFinally69Plus, there's a lot of news about how mangaka and animators are treated badly too

    • @TaddyDoMau
      @TaddyDoMau 14 днів тому +1

      there's not so much difference tbh both suffer by the industry

  • @thegoldennoob108
    @thegoldennoob108 17 днів тому +4

    Moral of the story, be like Ryan Reynolds and actually care about the role you play

  • @PACIFICBboy
    @PACIFICBboy 13 днів тому

    Creators losing control of their IP is one of the saddest things there is imo. It really is like losing a child in a way

  • @midnight_dusk6574
    @midnight_dusk6574 16 днів тому

    There are ppl like Mark Hamill ,who plays the Witcher , who care about their role and I understand that you're not putting those actors down ,your shorts come through my feed a lot and they're really informative most times

  • @LaPtaVerdad
    @LaPtaVerdad 3 місяці тому +5

    Bro this is brutal!

  • @HovektheArtist
    @HovektheArtist 22 дні тому +7

    People mention steve ditko and jack kirby, the men known as gods in the industry, but nobody is mentioning bill finger the true creative creator of batman that was shafted and forgotten due to the actions of the creative partner bob kane to the point that bill finger died destitute and unknown while kane was sitting on millions

  • @ethandodson507
    @ethandodson507 15 днів тому

    Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster of Superman, Bill Finger of Batman, Steve Ditko of Spider-man, the list goes on and on and on.

  • @timexyemerald6290
    @timexyemerald6290 22 дні тому +1

    Dude is practically raining on that mic

  • @tootallforyou112
    @tootallforyou112 Місяць тому +7

    It's very depressing but extremely realistic

  • @ashurarts7825
    @ashurarts7825 3 місяці тому +8

    that's why manga or solo running series are better most of the time from both writers perspective and consistency
    "not saying it's bad if someone else wrote it the story can be good af but i can assure you iver time it won't be consistent nor as visioned by the writer no matter what you do"

    • @joshjo9405
      @joshjo9405 Місяць тому +2

      And then there's localization that pulls the same bullshit that comics go through.

    • @The_Evening_Sun
      @The_Evening_Sun 26 днів тому +2

      Though manga definitely has it's own issues with weekly manga having crazy deadlines that leave no room for personal life continuously and the fact that in many action magazines you aren't able to have proper slow moments and downtime for fear of your series dropping in popularity and getting axed. When it's just one writer and they can't take long breaks until they've hit it big big, that wears on a person and can drop the quality in its own way as opposed to multiple authors who only have to lock in for their run.

    • @ashurarts7825
      @ashurarts7825 26 днів тому +4

      @@The_Evening_Sun those aren't plot related issues
      if we count non plot related issues then there comes a lot more in comics with multiple writers and big franchisee
      such as producers and editors have major control on comics than manga
      and creative liberty is limited as it's not only your own comic but a work of others as well

    • @The_Evening_Sun
      @The_Evening_Sun 22 дні тому +1

      @@ashurarts7825 those are plot related issues. Many series had sudden drops in quality or had some really had storylines because the author was suffering burnout. It also impacts the flow of many series as many of them try and have constant action, and often struggle with slow moments with character development as they're afraid doing chapters like that will get them axed.

    • @ashurarts7825
      @ashurarts7825 22 дні тому +2

      @@The_Evening_Sun i guess you are judging from a similar type genre of manga
      the amount of manga that has this issue are usual shonen or seinen and even only some of em have this
      yes hiatus exist and i think it's for the better quality over quantity
      but you should read the vast majority of other genre as well there are more manga with none of such issue than the one that have this issue
      also this issue is face with comics too many comic issue are rushed because the editorial timeline and less no. page issue also many comics have the issue of writer vs artist biased as not everytime the artist is the same aa writer and can't completely convey his idea in comics directly

  • @NAVEMAN3
    @NAVEMAN3 Місяць тому +2

    Sounds like DC in a nutshell with their live-action movies. At least Marvel gets it right...once in a blue moon

  • @user-nh1lp2td7c
    @user-nh1lp2td7c 16 днів тому

    We needed this. Public domain is something that doesn't need to exist!

  • @qoa-bandit
    @qoa-bandit 22 дні тому +3

    This is why Todd McFarlane Spawn is so good. He's created and owned the character for the last 30 years

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 14 днів тому

      Unfortunately comics very mess up with not make spawn god, also cartoon work with this better.

  • @genesismultiverse4896
    @genesismultiverse4896 3 місяці тому +5

    How the snyderverse ruined superman and batman in a nutshell

    • @filmpalace2426
      @filmpalace2426 2 місяці тому +1

      Nah

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 2 місяці тому

      @@filmpalace2426 keep crying

    • @filmpalace2426
      @filmpalace2426 2 місяці тому +1

      @@genesismultiverse4896 nah

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 2 місяці тому +1

      @@filmpalace2426 no I didn't say keep saying nah I never mind to be fair I can instead watch something with color and less focused on masculinity

  • @ISoloAll
    @ISoloAll 22 дні тому +1

    SNASPEY BONNIE DISS WHENNNN!??!!??!!?🙏🙏

  • @TrueUnderDawgGaming
    @TrueUnderDawgGaming 2 місяці тому +2

    Although today they remove the edginess to make the hero more “Acceptable”

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 2 місяці тому +6

      It’s been an ongoing cycle since the beginning of comics. Has everyone forgotten the CCA?

  • @ivanfrias2605
    @ivanfrias2605 3 місяці тому +4

    Snyders Superman and Batman

  • @Spuddyorange
    @Spuddyorange 25 днів тому +1

    Yeah people was enjoying public domain a little TOO much with mickey 💀

    • @Romualdocappelli
      @Romualdocappelli 23 дні тому +2

      @@Spuddyorange yeah, you are right.We have so many characters out of domain and all it's done are crappy horror movies😒

  • @alienvisitor8393
    @alienvisitor8393 Місяць тому +1

    sad reality is most of the directors of super hero movies dont know the chracters let alone read their comics before making the movie

  • @Marvel_Sheild-agent
    @Marvel_Sheild-agent 16 днів тому

    This is why I watch the older Marvel movies (also other superhero movies) because those creators and directors actually had some respect for the comics and hero’s. Of course some things had to be changed for filming purposes but they did it in a respectful way.
    (R.I.P. Stan Lee, you were the best)

  • @Chunkyloops
    @Chunkyloops 23 дні тому +1

    Creators of Batman and Spiderman

  • @GeekHero_Bubba
    @GeekHero_Bubba 14 днів тому +1

    Coming from Chip... That sounds like he's bragging.

  • @babysinclairfan
    @babysinclairfan 11 днів тому

    I like how they referenced that time Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) was turned into a villain because they wanted to replace him with the more modernized Kyle Rayner.

  • @crescentedwards851
    @crescentedwards851 17 днів тому

    This reminds me of Henry Cavill who always puts his best into his characters and even left a popular show because of how many changes were made from the books

  • @My6119
    @My6119 12 днів тому

    Applies also to animators, graphic designers, song writers, all artists in general.

  • @DoctorLazers
    @DoctorLazers 18 днів тому

    I met Ed Greenwood recently. Creator of the Forgotten Realms, the setting for DnD featured in multi-million dollar projects like DnD: Honor Among Thieves and Baldur's Gate 3. He still works at the library in Toronto to make a living and wasn't even credited in the film or game.

  • @FRISHR
    @FRISHR 15 днів тому +2

    Edison & Tesla
    Elon Musk & Martin Eberhard, Marc Tarpenning

  • @j13myoutube59
    @j13myoutube59 13 днів тому +1

    Henry stein from bendy and the ink machine got treated the exact same way

  • @EldritchMage3922
    @EldritchMage3922 18 днів тому

    It’s literally my dream to create something popular and still be unknown having people enjoy what I made and looking up to it while being a normal person

  • @elwickedjsjsjsjs
    @elwickedjsjsjsjs 26 днів тому

    Literally what tom taylor did to superman in Injustice

  • @ergietalks
    @ergietalks 16 днів тому

    sounds like he needs a really good lawyer.

  • @Fairy_Teeth
    @Fairy_Teeth 20 днів тому

    I get so excited for comic adaptation, idk why they usually forget the characters

  • @MOJUTMNT
    @MOJUTMNT Місяць тому +1

    Then Ryan Reynolds came into the scene... though he did kill off Deadpool's girlfriend making her refrigerator girl.

  • @Chris-uy1uz
    @Chris-uy1uz 19 днів тому

    The EQ on your voice is insane, I low-key can't listen to this without hurting mu head

  • @SnuggieMaple
    @SnuggieMaple 21 день тому

    I’ll Always remember how Stan Lee was promised a percentage of Marvel when it sold and he never got a dime he had to sue and he ended up getting a fraction

  • @JonnesTT
    @JonnesTT 3 дні тому

    It's called public domain, but it represents what is happening with IP owner by corps? Dope.

  • @sarmadhabibkhan3036
    @sarmadhabibkhan3036 12 днів тому +1

    Spiderman and Batman. They turned the friendly neighbourhood Spiderman into Sneako and they turned The Dark Knight, a symbol of justice, hope, humility and vengeance into an overpowered brooding emo rich guy who just beats up lowly criminals for fun, can't fix a single fucking city and gets PTSD everytime you say Martha.

    • @Lutherstrode17492
      @Lutherstrode17492 10 днів тому

      Actually, it’s the reverse for Batman. He started out as a brooding emo rich boy that kills people, and evolved into a symbol of hope that avoids taking lives.

  • @MekeninzoUG
    @MekeninzoUG 17 днів тому +1

    People only care about themselves in the end

  • @Kytseo
    @Kytseo 17 днів тому

    When it comes to the actors, makes one glad when you get one like Nicolas Cage, he actually loved Ghost Rider.

  • @dannytarver4533
    @dannytarver4533 18 днів тому

    I always wondered how Chris Evans felt about playing Captain America. I couldn't see anyone else being Steve Rogers. He seemed like he cared and gave his best

  • @fhartmart
    @fhartmart 17 днів тому

    Definitely going to read this serious for sure, thanks for the recommendation

  • @Flicker_thefo0x
    @Flicker_thefo0x 16 днів тому

    Okay, a good note worth exception to this is Ryan Reynolds with Deadpool. He was a Deadpool fan before the movies.
    And he plays Deadpool amazingly in the movies.

  • @billymasesghost
    @billymasesghost 21 день тому

    Henry Cavill in the corner being the only real nerd actor who tries to stay true to the characters

  • @SmartKidOmkar
    @SmartKidOmkar 14 днів тому

    we getting saul and mike for this one