Huge Moto Mistake! I will never learn.
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- I seem to have difficulty learning from my previous mistakes and experiences from riding motorcycles. I have yet again demonstrated I lack good judgement and found myself in a very challenging position where I had a limited amount of time to return home after suffering a front flat tire on my Yamaha Tenere 700. After having fix many flat tires, blown out tubes on my KTM 390 Adventure, you would think I would have learned to carry with me all the tools necessary to fix a flat tire. Unfortunately, I never seem to learn. This is a story of what I did to get home when I had very little time and no one to call for help. One piece of kit really saved me and that was an battery operated air compressor. I have found it to be so valuable I am leaving a link below for it if you also need a good portable compressor.
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Glad that you persevered and made it back. I believe that you made the best use of what you had available and didn’t damage your rim and tire by using the compressor. The first mod that I made to my Suzuki DL800DE was to convert the tubed wheels to tubeless. I hate the hassle of tubed tires!
How did you do the conversion? I have done DIY conversions in the past that eventually failed.
@@advmatt I am fortunate to live near Woody’s Wheel Works in Denver. I am very pleased with the results, my MotoZ tires hold pressure as well as any cast wheel.
@@jimpartin1144 Woody's... the absolute experts in wheels. Good choice.
1978, while riding near B.F.E. Ohio, I ended up with a flat front tire on my 1974 Honda CB500. No tools, slime/cell phones had not been invented yet and no one around for at least 3 miles, I ended up jogging next to the bike while I ran it in 2nd gear for that 3 miles. Tires back then were junk compared to todays tires, so I had to replace the tire and tube. I was young and in shape back then but today I would just let the buzzard have me if I found myself in that same situation.
Thanks for posting Matt.
Right on. That's funny. I did start seeing the buzzards circle....
Thanks for an honest recounting Matt, we've all been in similar circumstances one way or another - my last front flat (25psi 😅) was in front of a petrol station and opposite a bus stop, bus arrived five minutes later so went home (free at my age in the UK) got my stuff, went back and fixed it. Reckoning that degree of luck is unlikely to repeat itself I now ride out fully tooled up!
Nice, great luck!
Live and learn, brother.
Again... and again.... and again.
Good post, thanks for sharing. All of us who have ventured into ADV riding have all done the same things to some degree. In your case, you were on a basic road ride, so I would say even more road riders go out the same way (granted on a street bike you can just plug a leak). Given what you had available and where you were, I would have done exactly the same thing - filled and crawled with the compressor. It worked and you got home safe and that's all that counts. One item I have seen that might have helped you a bit is that "tube snot" stuff (the liquid tube patch) - the jury is out on if it actually works - but in this case it might have allowed you to go a few more miles at a clip before re-airing. One tool I swear by and have carried since day one is Rally Raid's T7 tire wrench. It combines the 3 tools you bought into one tool - easier to carry and use. Another item that is handy is a trail stand. Inexpensive and small, it allows you to prop the front of the bike up via the skid plate to get the front wheel off. Finally, 50/50 MotOz ADV tires have worked well for me too - super thick, stiff side walls might have also allowed you to travel a bit longer on low air. My 2 cents.
All great suggestions. I was planning to make a big order from Rally Raid and the wheel wrench was on my list. I procrastinated too much. It was just dumb. I know better. Cheers.
If that’s the worst thing that’s happened to you, you’re doing good Matt. Nicely done. Ride safe have fun
Thanks.
Dude, no judgement here, you did what you needed to do. Interestingly enough the same thing happened to me a few years ago. After trailering my GSA to Pennsylvania, while riding over to North Jersey to see my mother when my back tire started to go flat on Route 80, I was about 50 miles from my trailer😢 on one of the busiest highways in NJ. I kept looking for where the tire was punctured but couldn’t find it. Just like you all I had was my air pump. After pulling over and airing up every mile or so until I made my way back to the trailer, which took about 5 hrs. The next day after removing the rim from the bike I took it to a local motorcycle shop, we removed the tire to check for where it was damaged and couldn’t find anything. after remounting the tire the same thing happened. After a lot of head scratching I called Wood’y Wheel Works in Colorado where I had purchased the Excel Super Laced wheels, told them the story and was immediately informed that they too had found that the Heidenau K60 tires did not place nice with bead seating of their wheels. Who knew😮! Turns out my tool bag would have likely left me in a worse off situation if I had attempted to remove the tire from the rim on that highway, I may have never gotten that tire to hold any air at all in that
situation. 👍🏾
Wow, what a story. I have ridden out there. That would be terrifying to pull off the road the fix a flat or even just to limp along. Glad you survived. Hard lesson to learn about the tire on your wheels. Thanks for sharing.
Hey, Matt, glad you made it. We've all learned some things the hard way. But, it was an adventure, and you have another story to tell. I understood your reasons for going slow, but I think I would have aired up and ridden like a bat-outta-hell 😅.
I don't know, the tire deflated so fast... maybe next time I will try that.... because there will always be a next time......
Hey Matt, I got a rear flat on my Tenere on its stock tires because I was running too high pressure (34) . The carcase is soft and we were in sharp rocky shaley terrain, a loose rock punched straight through it after an erosion gully, with camping gear on the back. Luckily I had all the gear to fix it, took 2 hours though, breaking the bead was a nightmare, plus I was a bit rusty in the tyre changing department. Since then I install all of my new tyres. If it was a bit softer the carcase may have deflected rather than fracturing, it's a tricky thing off-road pressures. Glad you made it back ok.👍
The scorpion tires are some the softest I have seen. I think my pressure was just low enough to allow to flex and pinch. Those tires are terrible offroad tires. Always good to change tires yourself. It's good practice. I hate installing tubes on these wheels. Ugh.
Another great video ! Thanks for posting. I actually live in Albuquerque and unusually ride up to Sandia Peak on Sunday mornings during summer. The roads were awful this year. Something similar happened to me riding near Magdalena, fortunately I was with some other riders that had the right tools, etc. Ran to Cycle Gear as soon as I got back and got what I need to repair flats going forward. Funny thing is that I was able to help another rider about a months later with tire kit and pump.
Nice job helping someone else. I have used my tools to help others as much as myself. The road was awful. I had only ridden up there a few times since moving back and was surprised how bad it was. Thanks for commenting and watching.
Hi there Matt, You did what you had to. In that situation you had to think on your feet. I keep some HD cable ties and have used brush and weeds stuffed in a tire along with zip ties to get me off the trail. As a disclaimer I do not know how good that would work on a big ADV bike? Also I recommend rim locks if you can get them that big. The main point of this story is you was not injured. Hitting a hidden pothole at speed could have been a lot worse.
Good point. It could have been worse. Thanks. Cheers.
Very good post, with excellent information. Thank you.
It's meant to be a cautionary tale to be prepared. One I need to learn. Thanks.
I completely concur with the way you handled the sitch. Don't be so hard on yourself. Sh*t happens and it's all about how you deal with it that matters!
Thanks. Just dumb. I know better.
Yep, I have done the same, with the thought that I'm only going out for a quick ride only to lose the whole day. I'm surprised that you had a tube, but no tools. For me I had the tools without any tube repair kit.
Whoa, you lost a whole day. I was fortunate. I hadn't yet got around to assembling a tool kit for the T7. It has everything now. Cheers.
Thanks for the video. I'm glad I'm not the only one who makes mistakes. You made a good choice. Ya do what you gotta do.
Thanks. It's all I could think of. Cheers.
Annnd this is a great reminder for me to finish building out my tool kit for my DRZ.
Yes it is!
If I was in your situation I would have done the same as you. My T7 is running tubeless wheels and I carry plugs, compressor and an Eastbound T7 wheel removal toolkit under the seat so there alway there when I need them. I've had a few punctures and their plugged and I'm on my way in 20mins. 👍🏻
That's great. Where did you get your tubeless wheels or did you do a tubeless conversion?
@@advmatt I bought both sets from Rally Raid Products few years back. My first set ( road tyres ) are over three years old now and no problems at all. The second set has Motoz Tractionator Adventure tyres fitted for the off road stuff. The tubeless conversion is done by a company called "Bartubeless".
I’d just her her flat and slow for 10 miles.
Probably not the smartest choice but works and have done it before.
If your in a world of trouble and tyre has debeaded you can always pack the casing with grass, weed, growth what’s ever you can pick off the side of the road.
It’s crude but it works, has saved many. Riders in the wilderness.
You are right about that!
Front tire replacement is still probably cheaper than a tow truck 😜
For sure. I have towing included in my insurance, but I needed to go home, not to a shop and it would have taken hours.
Some days you just gotta get it done with what you have on you 🤙
Right on!
@@advmatt I snapped a leaf spring on a single axle camper while in a national forest and 4 hours a way from home. I jacked up the body wedged a block of wood between the frame and axle, had some gorilla tape and one racket strap. drove all the way back home going 5-10mph on back roads. sometimes you just gotta get it done. love your channel Matt, quality content, I watched a lot of your 390 content, haven't seen too much of the T7 but keep up the good work 🤙
@@RidingWithDom now that is getting it done! Thanks.
a small air compressor is a must carry..tubeless tires and a plug kit give you better odds.. tire removal and tube replacement for most riders not an option..even if you manage to lift your bike and getting the tire off it's difficult. Green slime can work..depends on the nature of the flat..I always run recommended tire pressure..I must be lucky, 100's of thousands of miles I can only recall a couple flats..last points..towing on your insurance policy is money well spent :0)..always carry a cell phone as well..Matt ..you made the ride call in this situation..
Thanks. I agree with all your points. Unfortunately I know how to change tubes trailside through experience. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you made it home, had a similar problem with a large screw in my rear Goldwing tire, put 2 plugs in and still only got about 1/2 mile before flat again. Lots of stops and re-airing up. Pain in the butt big time.
For sure a big pain in the butt. My air compressor died the last few miles. Not helpful.
I bought a new (old) bike about a month ago. Checking my tool kit was one of the first things i did, except a few rides within a mile from home. None of my axlel wrenches fit at all lol. doh. I haven't really inspected the bike yet (that's tomorrow) to make sure all the fluid levels are right. I know it's been taken car of, but tomorrow is my first real inspection, so, in away, same boat as you. Just making assumptions. Glad it worked out ok.
Procrastination bit me for sure. You are doing it right. Get the tools sorted first, then ride.
Hey Matt, I ride that road all the time, and know those same spots where the asphalt has deteriorated and created those lines of holes, in the downhill lane especially . And man do they hide in the shadows! I had a similar situation ten years ago with the rear on my 990, and pretty much did the same as you, albeit for slightly different reasons and got home okay. As other guys have already said, quit kicking yourself, we're all human- live and learn!
Thanks, I will try. I know better. Cheers.
I slapped outex on my interceptor. Of course you need to have a tubeless bead for this to work.
I need to give that a try. I have used different tubeless conversion solutions with mixed results.
"Normally well prepared" proceeds to sit on a bucket for a video he knew he was going to do. . . I usually like mine in Home Depot Orange.
This bucket has been with me for decades, we have been through a lot of motorcycle projects together. It's my most important tool in the garage.
Hey buddy, I didn't realize you live here in NM. Maybe we'll see each other the road sometime. I live on the west side of ABQ, so I mainly ride to Jemez for mountain rides. I have ridden to Manzano a few times though. Take care!
Yeah, I just moved back. Hit me up on Instragram and we can try to get out sometime. There is some fun riding around the area and it's a great launching point for so much more.
@@advmatt Will do. That will give me an excuse to fix my Instagram channel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will get to it. That is the curse! Do it! Do it now! That being said I really should put new plugs in my tire repair kit as the other ones are about 5 years old. See, just cursed myself!
Don't wait. Get to it now. You have been warned! Cheers.
@advmatt just in another country so will have to do it when I get home. I have 3 or 4 months until the snow clears. Which means I will probably forget!
@@mikemills5144 I will try to remind you through another bone headed video reminder thing I did.... another country, sweet. Love travel.
Putting that wireless mic to work! - Frank
It has opened up a whole new world of filming.
Darn Murphy :)
Your FIRST mistake was not taking your darlin' KTM 390 out instead!
;)
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It's in desperate need of service. Waiting on the new clutch.
This should be a pinned comment! This man is bringing the wisdom! - Frank
@@advmattThis is the most acceptable reason for riding a Tenere I have heard.
Yamaha Tenere: Because sometimes, the 390 Adventure needs maintenance.
It's why I own a 790...
Thats the problem with tubed tires on ADV bikes. With tubeless tires you only need a minimum of time and equipment to fix a flat. That's not the case with tubed tires. Bottom line ADV bikes should never come standard with tubed tires. I know that isn't the reality but it's still true.
I agree. It's really costly to go tubeless as well. Learning never ends.
Always carry a canister of slime or other foam type sealant together with that compressor and tools.
If its just a few miles and you’re in a rush it will usually seal enough to get you home and save the tire 🛞.
BTW
What psi did you run beforehand?
Some people believe in running lower psi for better offroad traction but there are downsides and thats one of them.
Since it was a sidewall pinch I am not sure tire sealant would have worked, but I have since put Ride On in my tubes, which I normally use for balancing. Sealing is am added benefit. I agree the lower tire pressure is better offroad, but on road I should have been between 32 and 36psi. I was experimenting with lower tire pressures to balance offroad and on road performance. I went too low.
I;m not sure I can watch a channel where the rider has a modular helmet... I thought you were a serious rider...lol
I chose comfort and ease. I can eat and drink without removing my helmet! Sorry to dissappoint,,,,,,,, it has been life changing......
No factory tool set under seat?
Yeah, there was, one small 10mm wrench and a Phillips and flat head screw driver. Not useful in any situation but maybe scrapping mud off of my boots.
Toolkits on new bikes all but completely useless. My new Transalp has no spanners to remove either wheel, no spark plug spanner, nor any Allen keys, when ALL the bodywork is attached using Allen heads. I guess the factories assume we will add a proper toolkit.
@@patkennedy1 factory toolkits are a joke. Not sure what manufacturers are thinking.
Ever tried chasing a Tesla ? FFS ! I have a Model Y with acceleration boost.
It’s standing quarter is way quicker than my R1250GS
*incredible cars*
The Tesla driver I was following was putting down the mountain well under the speed limit until I pulled up behind. He would accelerate a bit then coast a bit. It was annoying and he wouldn't let me pass.
The front tire pressures you mentioned seem very high to me. What does Yamaha recommend for the street?
I thought his pressure was too low. That's why he got a pinch flat from hitting the pothole. I would guess the correct pressure on the front for street would be around 36psi (Matt only had 26psi).
Tire pressure up front should be between 32 to 36psi, depending on the tire, for road riding.
I thought the Tenere was lighter! Bigger bike and load than I realized.@@advmatt
@@underbear9683 Tenere comes in at 452lbs. It's heavy.
Can you not pull wheelie man up lol
I don't have the wheelie gene. Wheelies allude me.
No slime?
Nope, it wouldn't have helped. Slime and other sealants only work on the contact patch of the tire/tube. I had a sidewall pinch in the tube. It wouldn't have sealed.
How to make a 12min video on a simple thing like a flat tyre🤦🏼♂️ you’re over thinking it, shit happens and get on with it!
Also I don’t want to sound like a wanker, but your intro is funny as, like an 80’s work training video lol
This video was meant to be a cautionary tale to be prepared, to serve as a reminder. I am over it, but as a content creator I have to use these events. I think it's working as a reminder as I read through the comments. It's great to hear other riders story too.
lots out there do stupid stuff so just learn the lesson - don't beat yourself up but i do have to laugh at you for having comp, levers etc and NO TOOLS????? Myself i would have done several blow ups with the comp to cover distance and then ridden on a flat tyre until i got home - then again i ride on mousse, not tubes so i will never get a flat , yes i hear you lot before you say what you will say in opposition but no.
Mousse is a great idea. I have seen it used on the road before. No flats might be worth it.
I want to feel sympathy for you Matt, I really do.
But you are better than this. The universe has taught you the horrors of innertubes!
The mistake here was buying a bike with tubed tires! 😁 - Frank
Yes it was. I never learn... it will happen again.... for sure....
Tube or no tube, your up a creak with no tools or plugs.
@@advmattI am really hoping tubes on ADV bikes is a thing if the past soon.
It seems to be about 50/50 now. Hopefully it will at least be an dealer upgrade, like the new Himalayan.
Is a tubeless conversion in the cards for the Yamaha? - Frank
@@lesterroberts4787Very true Lester. As an influencer, Matt should be setting a better example 😎 - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding not sure about a tubeless upgrade on the T7. I have done some minor research. It might have to be DIY.