This song is absolutely insane. The 7/8 that perfectly fits the verses, a powerful chorus, the lyrics that are a whole poem, the absurdly beatufiul outro in 6/4 with the key changing? That song is so sick, it should be really deserve to be known globally and this video should have A LOT MORE views. I love it, thanks
Dustin's lyrics about God are so masterfully written. They are one of those that I admire the most,, and that's a funny thing, considering I'm nowhere near a believer.
Neither am I a believer. But even still; these lyrics completely encompass my constant struggle between my hope heaven is there so I can see my Dad again, and the fact that I really don't believe it is there. Shit tears me up all the time man. Dammit Dustin. Why you do this!?
Unsure if anyone else has made a comment pointing it out, but the verse sections of this track are written in 7/8. The transition from 7/8 to 4/4 (or 8/8,) between the verses and the chorus was so clean that I didn't notice it until a friend pointed it out to me and caused me to count the beats. Love the odd time signature in this song especially. Gives the progression a very stunted, brutal feeling, perfectly captures that boarded up "window", with a perfect release of tension in the chorus. As an extra note: I want to say the ending part is written in 6/8 just off of counting the beats, may have miscounted but I thought that was also interesting.
I've thought about that a lot myself. I really think it a day trip in the mind of a split personality patient. Personality (A) feels trapped their empty "room" and the windows are the patients eyes that are covered up. Personality (B) is trying to keep the other contained so they can control the narrators mind. Then you try and figure out if personality (A) has been trapped its entire existence or only long enough to forget how the world looks from their perspective. Let me know what you think about that.
It's about existential crisis pretty much. The "room" is the world we live in and know, our tangible reality so to speak. The window is sort of a viewpoint of the world beyond this world, or the afterlife. It's boarded up so all we are familiar with is the present reality but glimmers of light and wind and sound come through to tell us there is a world beyond what we know. What feels like certain evidence when experiencing it that can in no way be proven to anybody as having been real. The note scratched in the wall is basically the way he fool ourselves into believing that a life beyond what we know and can prove is real is imaginary, and any indications otherwise are all inside our head. Of course, people are welcome to their own interpretation but given Dustin's spiritual views and background as a very religious lyricist I can all but assure that this is the intended meaning of the song.
All that I know's within the walls of this room where there's a window Roughly boarded up It's true the gaps are patched but even through the tiny cracks, I feel the wind blow I see a light it's strange as you And there's nothing I can say There's no way I can prove That there's a place Beyond this room But still, there's something in the way The light comes shining through And in the way The curtains move Late in the night I lay awake My eyes fixed on the window Swing my ears until I thought That I might have heard a song Somehow hiding in the soft glow All this time, and never knew And there's nothing I can say There's no way I can prove That there's a place Beyond this room But still, there's something in the way The light comes shining through And in the way The curtains move I found a note scratched in the wall In a pained and earnest scrawl The hand I recognized was somehow mine already slight with dread There's no wind and there's no light There's no song in here at night There's nowhere to hide, we're terrified It's all inside your head Still, there's something in the way The light comes shining through And in the way The way the curtains move
This better be part of their live set for the next year. I also hope they make a music video this song. This side of Thrice needs to be put to the masses. This song grows on oneself like no-other.
the riff at 2:58 is in 6/4, split into 7/8 and 5/8 groupings, and at 3:14 they do a 4/4 drum part over it and it sounds so damn good. I've never really heard them do anything that blatantly complex before. Sounds like something out of a prog metal band's repertoire (though probably not as extreme as those bands would go)
This album is remarkably un-progressive though.. Vheissu is the only album of Thrice's that I can enjoy. Unfortunately, I expected this, considering the direction they went in with their previous few albums. Peace
I agree. Had a co worker show me Alchemy Index when it came out. Further looked through other Thrice albums but I found that this band is never the same. They do what they wanna do when it comes to music. And make it sound good. I'll be honest though. I didn't care for some of their earlier stuff. But this album takes the cake. IMO....the best they've made.
Oh boy this song is so good holy cow I love this :O Thrice is the rock band I've been looking for !!!!!! I love how they have clean and inspiring lyrics while not sounding cliche or super happy! I love the math rock elements but how it still has a clear, strong melody that isn't to all over the place. I love Dustin's voice. It's clear but rough and it's not "perfect" but it's not "ugly". Some rock music just sounds gross and other rock music sounds too pristine and clear-cut. This is just the perfect combination of complex and simple, clean and ruff, angry but beautiful!
This is my take on the lyrics, knowing someone who went to a broken church with Dustin. Reality, this cell that most of us are stuck in, seems to be all that exists. But sometimes he thinks he can see, hear or sense something beyond this life. There's absolutely no way to prove something exists after we die, but he sees signs. He feels that there MUST be something outside of this, he HOPES there is. Or maybe... IT'S ALL INSIDE OF HIS HEAD.
As a punk/hardcore metal head kid, I always respected thrice and wanted to like them but couldnt get past the "sunny day realestate/rufio/yellowcard" voice he used to sing with. The musicianship and lyrics were awesome though. I came across Black Honey the other day and was amazed. Listend to this whole album alot since then. Is any other albums like this one? Help a brotha out Thrice fans.
How do you guys write entire albums that stop me from whatever it is I'm doing so I can listen more closely??? Jeez, See you at the Observatory, Santa Ana, October 6th!!!!
I'm hearing serious echoes of Radiohead's "There There," put through a sludgy blender with some hopping around different time signatures. Gawd I've missed these guys
Holy shit...Am I the only one who realized that at around the 3 minute mark this song sounded like the starting of "Firebreather" from the Alchemy Album Of Fire? Just listen....So good...love what these guys do!
that's his voice, but yeah, the heavy guitars and layered droning sounds reminds me of Fire a lot. A lot of this album's songwriting reminds me of Fire.
At least the intro is in 7/4, maybe 7/8. I think I'd agree with what you said about the ending of the song going from 6/8 to 6/4, though it might just be the cymbal going into halftime while still in 6/8.
it seems unlikely it would be one bar of 6/8 and 2 bars of 6/4. I think the half-time on the cymbal slows it down, not the actual time signature itself. I count 2 bars of 6/8. I just hit things with sticks though, I'm not an expert in the denominator of time signatures :P
Ahhhh.... I was really going off of the pattern of the guitar hits between the two sections, only to find out they're the same pattern on both parts. Nevermind then! I, too, hit things with sticks. I also play drums!
have your ever noticed that thrice has stopped talking 'bout god in this new album? even the name of the album TBEITBN) I mean they are christians (or at lest they were) and in the christianiti ''god'' is everywhere. This song is like a reprsentation of what im saying. He has some doubts about the ''heaven'' but even that he S T I L L has faith.
This entire album is about politics and society. That is clear from their interviews and dustin's twitter. The title is reference to smart phone and social media addiction.
Because there are a lot of morons out there that would rather listen to garbage Desiigner's "Panda" than great music like this. They'd rather hear some idiot rapping about killing people, doing drugs and objectifying women than deep, powerful lyrics about someone's worldview changing.
Would've been really cool if for the first chorus at 0:48 instead of going into the singing chorus, they cut the vocals out, and then started the chorus vocals at 1:00. Get chills thinking of how awesome that would have sounded.
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This song is absolutely insane.
The 7/8 that perfectly fits the verses, a powerful chorus, the lyrics that are a whole poem, the absurdly beatufiul outro in 6/4 with the key changing?
That song is so sick, it should be really deserve to be known globally and this video should have A LOT MORE views.
I love it, thanks
🎉 So good !!! But you must hear “World” by SLT 🌎🤘🎶🤘🌎
Dustin's lyrics about God are so masterfully written. They are one of those that I admire the most,, and that's a funny thing, considering I'm nowhere near a believer.
Neither am I a believer. But even still; these lyrics completely encompass my constant struggle between my hope heaven is there so I can see my Dad again, and the fact that I really don't believe it is there. Shit tears me up all the time man. Dammit Dustin. Why you do this!?
There is a GOD ,seek Him out .And you will find him. 😎
I don't wish to. But thank you kindly for the advice. Peace be with you.
It's not about God. It's about whether there's an afterlife.
@@XxXCaptainJakkXxX its deffinatly about God whose light is shining through the cracks and curtains
This may be my favourite Thrice song ever.
Unsure if anyone else has made a comment pointing it out, but the verse sections of this track are written in 7/8. The transition from 7/8 to 4/4 (or 8/8,) between the verses and the chorus was so clean that I didn't notice it until a friend pointed it out to me and caused me to count the beats. Love the odd time signature in this song especially. Gives the progression a very stunted, brutal feeling, perfectly captures that boarded up "window", with a perfect release of tension in the chorus.
As an extra note: I want to say the ending part is written in 6/8 just off of counting the beats, may have miscounted but I thought that was also interesting.
This is so good but you must hear “Control” or “City” by SLT 🤘🔥🎸
There's nowhere to hide, be terrified, it's all inside your head!
So good.. soooooo good..
What do you think it means?
such an intense moment in the song. I love it
I've thought about that a lot myself. I really think it a day trip in the mind of a split personality patient. Personality (A) feels trapped their empty "room" and the windows are the patients eyes that are covered up. Personality (B) is trying to keep the other contained so they can control the narrators mind. Then you try and figure out if personality (A) has been trapped its entire existence or only long enough to forget how the world looks from their perspective. Let me know what you think about that.
It's about existential crisis pretty much. The "room" is the world we live in and know, our tangible reality so to speak. The window is sort of a viewpoint of the world beyond this world, or the afterlife. It's boarded up so all we are familiar with is the present reality but glimmers of light and wind and sound come through to tell us there is a world beyond what we know. What feels like certain evidence when experiencing it that can in no way be proven to anybody as having been real. The note scratched in the wall is basically the way he fool ourselves into believing that a life beyond what we know and can prove is real is imaginary, and any indications otherwise are all inside our head.
Of course, people are welcome to their own interpretation but given Dustin's spiritual views and background as a very religious lyricist I can all but assure that this is the intended meaning of the song.
The way one often feels inside their head during depression.
Theres nowhere to hide be terrified it’s all inside your head
So good !!! But you must hear “World” by SLT 🌎🤘🎶🤘🌎
So GOOD!! Welcome back Thrice.
All that I know's within the walls
of this room where there's a window
Roughly boarded up
It's true the gaps are patched but even through
the tiny cracks, I feel the wind blow
I see a light it's strange as you
And there's nothing I can say
There's no way I can prove
That there's a place
Beyond this room
But still, there's something in the way
The light comes shining through
And in the way
The curtains move
Late in the night I lay awake
My eyes fixed on the window
Swing my ears until
I thought
That I might have heard a song
Somehow hiding in the soft glow
All this time, and never knew
And there's nothing I can say
There's no way I can prove
That there's a place
Beyond this room
But still, there's something in the way
The light comes shining through
And in the way
The curtains move
I found a note scratched in the wall
In a pained and earnest scrawl
The hand I recognized
was somehow mine already slight with dread
There's no wind and there's no light
There's no song in here at night
There's nowhere to hide, we're terrified
It's all inside your head
Still, there's something in the way
The light comes shining through
And in the way
The way the curtains move
This is so good but you must hear “Control” or “City” by SLT 🤘🔥🎸
Love this man!! I love the radiohead influence
This is so good but you must hear “Control” or “City” by SLT 🤘🔥🎸
Just plain bad ass. Best band ever.
Possibly my favorite from this AMAZING album, such a contagious and inspiring attempt!
This better be part of their live set for the next year.
I also hope they make a music video this song. This side of Thrice needs to be put to the masses. This song grows on oneself like no-other.
I'm so blown away... I don't know how I'm going to make it through a whole day of work listening to our terrible music.
you can do it.. just know thrice will be waiting when you get home. this is gold!
Hello 7/8, we meet again. This is one of my favourites on the album. Has that early 00's post-hardcore grunge sound I love.
Love when they use funky time signatures! The seamless time signature change for the chorus is what makes this song great for me.
the riff at 2:58 is in 6/4, split into 7/8 and 5/8 groupings, and at 3:14 they do a 4/4 drum part over it and it sounds so damn good. I've never really heard them do anything that blatantly complex before. Sounds like something out of a prog metal band's repertoire (though probably not as extreme as those bands would go)
This album is remarkably un-progressive though.. Vheissu is the only album of Thrice's that I can enjoy. Unfortunately, I expected this, considering the direction they went in with their previous few albums.
Peace
***** there are a few good songs, but as a whole it isn't particularly experimental or adventurous. Vheissu was definitely their peak.
divinasion whaaaaaaaaaaa hear that?
So far my favorites are hurrican, the window, whistleblower, stay with me, and oh yeah the rest of the album as well.
Damn fine album. Been listening to them since 2001. Love.
this so is just so grimy I love it. might be my favourite.
same here. I love the imagery too
I'm so happy with this, god, people, this is their best album since, I dont know
it's unreal...
Their best since Vheissu.
Jason LovesABR Another Thrice video, I'd assume.
I feel equally
Man this album is just full of surprises. Loving this song
i'm so blown away. just...can't even.
Album of the Year... hands down...
My favorite song on the album. These lyrics are provocative. Especially the last line "... The way the curtains move"
Easily their best album. Song after song it's just hit after hit to the senses. What a comeback.
The chorus is a pure feeling that makes you scream until your lungs collapse, an outstanding band. Long life to Thrice.
This is on a whole different level. Thrice is back and better than ever.
I agree. Had a co worker show me Alchemy Index when it came out. Further looked through other Thrice albums but I found that this band is never the same. They do what they wanna do when it comes to music. And make it sound good. I'll be honest though. I didn't care for some of their earlier stuff. But this album takes the cake. IMO....the best they've made.
the progy feel to this song gives me shivers
I'm hoping the naysayers of this album are drinking their own tears now.
Oh boy this song is so good holy cow I love this :O
Thrice is the rock band I've been looking for !!!!!! I love how they have clean and inspiring lyrics while not sounding cliche or super happy! I love the math rock elements but how it still has a clear, strong melody that isn't to all over the place. I love Dustin's voice. It's clear but rough and it's not "perfect" but it's not "ugly". Some rock music just sounds gross and other rock music sounds too pristine and clear-cut. This is just the perfect combination of complex and simple, clean and ruff, angry but beautiful!
¿Me recomiendas algunas bandas/artistas con buenas líricas? porfavor, enserio lo necesito-
@@AccountOne-g5u i think citizens "youth" album sounds alot like this one
The lyrics behind every song are so meaningful and strong, good job lads :)
Drum tones are gorgeous.
This is so good but you must hear “Control” or “City” by SLT 🤘🔥🎸
This song is beautiful in every aspect.
top 10 of all time!
This is my take on the lyrics, knowing someone who went to a broken church with Dustin. Reality, this cell that most of us are stuck in, seems to be all that exists. But sometimes he thinks he can see, hear or sense something beyond this life. There's absolutely no way to prove something exists after we die, but he sees signs. He feels that there MUST be something outside of this, he HOPES there is. Or maybe... IT'S ALL INSIDE OF HIS HEAD.
Such a good song. Such a good album.
I swear to God thrice is brilliant
mad love for this album
As a punk/hardcore metal head kid, I always respected thrice and wanted to like them but couldnt get past the "sunny day realestate/rufio/yellowcard" voice he used to sing with. The musicianship and lyrics were awesome though. I came across Black Honey the other day and was amazed. Listend to this whole album alot since then. Is any other albums like this one? Help a brotha out Thrice fans.
This is so good but you must hear “Control” or “City” by SLT 🤘🔥🎸
Everything after the artist I’m the ambulance changed … based on your comment you will love all albums after that one. Especially the alchemy index
After almost 2 years, I have to say: This record is still fantastic and lost nothing of it’s power. 1000000/10
god damn it thrice never fails
love you guys!!
I think I have found my album fave, so much going on in this wonderful song ^_^
holy shit. holy shit. it's so good. how do you write shit this good. fan boyin over here
Badass Album!
Love that filthy ass guitar tone. Reminds me of "yellow belly" in that aspect.
dude, holy hell this is good stuff.
Thrice should do a song titled 'The Way The Curtain Moves'
A great song with a greater finale, so heavy
Amazing as usual
Dope ending!
This one feels so 1995 ❤️
Amazing.
welcome the fuck back Thrice. what a fucking comeback.
Digging it, has a Soundgarden sound to it.
Best hands down
will personally fight whoever dislikes this
we have two people to fight
I was gonna say it just to be a dick but i honestly cant bring myself to do it, even as a joke! Fuckin awesome
3 years later...have you gained the strength to kick 80 peoples ass’s?
I preffer Vheissu Thrice's sound, but this is okay too. They had such raw and heavy sound. I liked it a lot more.
@@julianwhite5430 For Thrice, we would do anything.
How do you guys write entire albums that stop me from whatever it is I'm doing so I can listen more closely??? Jeez, See you at the Observatory, Santa Ana, October 6th!!!!
Everything I hoped for...right here. Jesus Christ..
3:14 Time to headbang!
This is good.
This is a riff that Hurt has used before, but the way Thrice plays it sounds so much more deeper.
ua-cam.com/video/0lk4NlqJlKY/v-deo.html You must hear this new one !!!
Love the album. This is very similar to 'pillow of your bones' by Chris Cornell.
Thrice going almost Pelican with this one.
More like radiohead in the intro.
Cool, original melody and great vocals that remind me of Chris Cornell.
I'm hearing serious echoes of Radiohead's "There There," put through a sludgy blender with some hopping around different time signatures. Gawd I've missed these guys
Its like heavy Radiohead. omg ,
YESSSS
yes.
Yes!
Its a mixture of There There and The National Anthem
Alan Araujo this is what I said!
The place outside the walls is also beyond the pines.
Horribly boring lyrics, aren't they? :-D just kidding, you're right, but i love both of them, especially the lyrics
Good Stuff
Holy shit...Am I the only one who realized that at around the 3 minute mark this song sounded like the starting of "Firebreather" from the Alchemy Album Of Fire? Just listen....So good...love what these guys do!
that's his voice, but yeah, the heavy guitars and layered droning sounds reminds me of Fire a lot. A lot of this album's songwriting reminds me of Fire.
this and Wake Up sound just like Beggars and I absolutly love that as well as the rest of the songs. Shit, they're all so good
Ed's tone on this one!
Reminds me of There There by Radiohead
Jaren Young Yeah, that's exactly what I thought
Would anyone say that the time signatures of the ending riffs basically go from 6/8 to 6/4? Just curious...
I've been counting most of the song in 7/4, myself. Haven't really counted the ending riffs, just the drums through the rest of the song.
At least the intro is in 7/4, maybe 7/8. I think I'd agree with what you said about the ending of the song going from 6/8 to 6/4, though it might just be the cymbal going into halftime while still in 6/8.
it seems unlikely it would be one bar of 6/8 and 2 bars of 6/4. I think the half-time on the cymbal slows it down, not the actual time signature itself. I count 2 bars of 6/8. I just hit things with sticks though, I'm not an expert in the denominator of time signatures :P
Ahhhh.... I was really going off of the pattern of the guitar hits between the two sections, only to find out they're the same pattern on both parts. Nevermind then!
I, too, hit things with sticks. I also play drums!
Yeah, it's 7/4 in the verses, 4/4 in the chorus and riffs and then 6/8 in that last section, with really quirky accents. Love it!
The whole album is just gaaaahhhh
have your ever noticed that thrice has stopped talking 'bout god in this new album? even the name of the album TBEITBN) I mean they are christians (or at lest they were) and in the christianiti ''god'' is everywhere. This song is like a reprsentation of what im saying. He has some doubts about the ''heaven'' but even that he S T I L L has faith.
This entire album is about politics and society. That is clear from their interviews and dustin's twitter. The title is reference to smart phone and social media addiction.
40 grit sandpaper on my eardrums. Wow.
why does it have so few plays!?
Because there are a lot of morons out there that would rather listen to garbage Desiigner's "Panda" than great music like this. They'd rather hear some idiot rapping about killing people, doing drugs and objectifying women than deep, powerful lyrics about someone's worldview changing.
it only came out like a week ago come on man. some songs don't have this many plays after 3 years.
very radiohead, awesome
wooooooooooooooooooo
that song is fucking perfect
This is so good but you must hear “Control” or “City” by SLT 🤘🔥🎸
this was so good i almost threw up
begining is so radioheadish
fuck i love thrice
Would've been really cool if for the first chorus at 0:48 instead of going into the singing chorus, they cut the vocals out, and then started the chorus vocals at 1:00.
Get chills thinking of how awesome that would have sounded.
fuck my life. this is awesome
How is no one talking about how the main riff is almost exactly the middle part of Paranoid Android?
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When no gives a shit about the Fray lol
This is so good but you must hear “Control” or “City” by SLT 🤘🔥🎸
when i realized ive been listening to their music but im not subcribed
Radiohead
A song for every atheist
Jacob Nolen What if I am muslim?
Mehmet Cumhur then we can still be friends!
Jake Nolen Agnostic
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