I have Saturn in 4th house. I wouldn't say I like routines at all + I love renovating home...hmm... But still, yes I do have parents karma (I was taken from my mother at the age of 3 and met her on my 23th birthday), I had a really unusual childhood, I am worrying too much about things, I have time to time battles with emotions. BUT! One great thing you said and I agree 100% with it - I LOVE vintage cars & wish to build a house in nature out of stone and wood. I'm 27 and one astrologist also told me that I'll have to wait until 30.
DAMN! That was so spot on...thank God I am nearly 40 now and ready to make right with the karma of my 1st half of life...glad I found this video, it brought a lot of clarity!
I have this placement but with Neptune and uranus as well, but all in retrograde. It has a correlation to when he developed dementia a couple years back and it felt like I was being smothered by both his needs and my toxic ex girlfriend simultaneously. when he relocated with my step brother I felt a burden was lifted, only to be replaced by my mothers need for reassurance, who was more career focused during my childhood due to my dad's early retirement. Now at the age of 28, I find myself being the shoulder for everyone to lean on, which rarely is reciprocated. I look at family as a liability, yet long for closeness and prefer being surrounded by strangers. I have also moved over 20 times, so the concept of roots is rather foreign. Needed to get that off my mind...
Strict mom, yes. Emotional blockage, yes. I think getting connections with my own emotions is kinda mission impossible and remains a mystery to me. pay karma to parents: yes. the only child and they took a good care of me when raising me. when it's time for me to take care of them I returned the favor, quite fair. Sturdy house got after 30, yes. Jupiter dominate in my chart, so a lot of moving around. Always change the arrangements of the furniture. Routine very flexible. Totally cut off from all ties of my home country: land, people & tradition. I hate tradition and all those superstitious old practices since I was a kid. Very strong Uranus energy in my chart.
Interesting. I have Saturn retrograde in the 4th, and I have always loved dry mountainous landscapes and classic American cars, lol. I drive a '91 Cadillac Brougham given to me by my grandfather (definitely acquired by Saturnian means.) I love that car, and grew up in it, and i always have this sense of nostalgia even towards things I've never actually owned or experienced. Also, had a very difficult, emotionally debilitating, and thus distant relationship with my mother. I'm pretty much a loner now, at 26.
Wow this is on point for me. Growing up I had a mentally ill parents with very poor a lot of pain my parents just weren't there for me mentally and emotionally. And that my Saturn return I moved away which was one of the best things I ever did.
Thank you so much Lada. It is like that. I have Saturn and the Sun conjunct in the 0 - 4 degrees in the 4th house. It is difficult and I just find real peace in nature. I hope someday I can be everywhere just feeling good feeling my heart and stop haveing this sense of worrying :) Much love and light.
Belen Nerea I have Capricorn Rising Saturn in 4th house (Gemini) Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant Sun Aquarius (1st) house Leo Moon (7th) house Pluto (11th) house I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them Plz help
Lada you must have been (and still are) the light in your father's heart. I know from experience of 4th house Saturn that these people feel great courage and inspiration in the very qualities that radiate out of you. I'm going back now to finish your latest video. I wanted to tell you this.
wow this is trippy. I sense I will be the one taking care of my parents later on, also how you mentioned about the issues with parents when I was younger. I have a Scorpio Saturn so I totally get into a negative mindset easy. Great stuff Lada! I hope later in life I can get that nice isolated place to myself or with a family. We shall see!
I understand the strict parents experience! And worrying too much and trying to care too much about others and being rigid in some ways, excellent video
I have Sat in 4th. Also, moon square Saturn by birth aspect. Also, Sun in Capricorn in the 4th. And this description is completely true for me. I have tried to leave the bad karma of my family. But now it's my Saturn return and I'm home again. Dealing with this instead of trying to leave.
What would it take to complete my karma with the land and with my mother? I've found a new spiritual path of trusting in God completely with everything. It has been incredible. Especially now that my rocky relationship with my mother has become completely estranged. I have moon opp chiron in the 4th house with a moon-saturn-uranus conjunction. Sometimes she treats me horribly but I am actually finding the blessing of it. I'm learning how deeply God loves and I've learned how to be so grateful in every moment. I wouldn't be the way I am without my parents because I wouldn't have had to learn it. That said, I wonder if completing the karma is just letting them go. Not asking them to be my parents anymore energetically. Allowing that cord to break and not seeking any further love, validation, or relationship from them.
Hi Lada, thank you for making this video and your research on 4th house saturn. After listening to this video I felt like you are talking about my life.
Working with my father in his shop. He turns 80 yrs. old tomorrow. Looking forward to my own property and vehicle. Have been a gardener for 30 years in my home town. The growing conditions are horrible. I am so amazed you are so correct. I am hopeful now as I am almost 60 yrs. old. now.
You are simply great, and also the cutest astrologer I've ever encountered .. All what you have said about Saturn in 4th. is extremely true. I don't have this placement fortunately, but I know someone who is typical as you said Amazing, And really great work. Congratulation.
Oh boy... Saturn R in Virgo in the 4th. I have moved houses starting at 20 SO many times, people call me a gypsy. 😂 I have owned properties, including big pieces of land, by 30. I have also lived in 2 countries for many years, changing states and cities. After 30 I have moved at least every 1.5 years. I constantly feel the need to renovate and change the place I live in. I am also very close with my parents. The question: what does Saturn in the 4th mean? 🤣
MVKLumiere I have Capricorn Rising Saturn in 4th house (Gemini) Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant Sun Aquarius (1st) house Leo Moon (7th) house Pluto (11th) house I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them Plz help
yes it is psychology of a sort. The father of modern psychology-Carl Yung was an avid astrologer using the birth chart to profile his more difficult cases
wow my son has Saturn in Leo in his 4th house!!! he is a moody brewer who loves old school cars & being bossy as well as routine (its like living with an old father/man). I have Saturn Leo in 7th house so we are similar but different areas of rigidity. Love yr information Lada!!! you are a perfect Aries mercury 3rd house messenger xo
I had a boyfriend who has this position. He was so worried about his parent (and everyone else too, by the same token, his Sun is Pieces) all the time, that he got terrible, chronic back pain. Doctors could not find any reason to his pains that continued, continued for yeas. I do not know now what the situation is, because I haven't had connection to him any more, last time I spoke to him his back pain had became worse. -This all really made ME worry about him! He did not seem to have his own life at all! He could not go anywhere and develop his life, because all the time there were his parents - even they lived far away!
gee, this sounds a heavy case Saturn in the 4th! Maybe his back will also improve if he is able to forgive or heal the issues with the parents. 4th/10th house are the backbone of the horoscope and maleficts there often can show issues of the back bone due to mother/father issues
I hope so. He also has Pluto in conjunct with Saturn, directly in IC. And this combination is in quincunx with his Mars. And his Mars and Venus are actually in conjunct with my Sun and Venus… and many other things. Well, he's a wonderful man, not only in the map! The parent-problem just was/is terrible. Its also about the cultures: he lives in the different culture than his parents now, and life is so different there. I think his map tells it very well.
I have saturn conjuct uranus and neptune in capricorn in the 4th house. I have a narcisistic mother, took care of my sibblings from her other marriage since i was 10. Her husband was violent and abusing. She wanted me to be super sucessful. She used to say that depression dont exists and that i make up things. I have pluto in scorpio in first house. In saturn in scorpio i left home and cut ties for 4 years, now i talk to them through internet. I went to live with my father and grandmother. Someway i see my grandmother as my mother now, cuz she gives me love and expect nothing in return, but i still am emotionally tied to my mother, but not in a good way. I struggle a lot to make career work till now ( im turning 29). Im a virgo.
OMG - this was my first husband to a T! Ha ha, I'm Jupitarian and it drove me up the wall that he saw everything in such a critical, fearful and negative light. He is massively traditional (and dare I say on a public forum, controlling!) and even has an incurable obsession with vintage cars! Too funny! I love how astrology just WORKS!
Lada, this video is SO precise for me. I have Saturn retrograde in the 4th house, in conjunction with Pluto retrograde. Saturn in Scorpio 0º and Pluto in Libra 27º. It will take me a like time to understand all that.
I always wanted to leave the home early and move to another country, I tried but still had to go back home to live with my family. Last week I started gardening and enjoy it a lot, getting used to living with my family but I still want to move away. How to end this karma? My Saturn return starts in April 2020.
My niece is 8 years old..she acts like an old woman..telling everyone what to do. She is exceptionally bright & has a stellium in the 10th. I'm a realtor & im pretty sure she will be one too.
Kay Ellis I have Capricorn Rising Saturn in 4th house (Gemini) Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant Sun Aquarius (1st) house Leo Moon (7th) house Pluto (11th) house I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them Plz help
Hm, I'm so confused.. I have Saturn AND the Sun in the fourth house, but in the third Cusp (I'm born quite far north).. I understand now why I am so conflicted about home. I have been living abroad for almost two years and I both love and have a hard time being away from my family and my parents house (which is still "home" for me, I'm only 24). Defo a hard combo to navigate..
i have this placement and i absolutely hate it. because i have a 10H libra stellium, my 4H aries saturn is opposing all of that. i literally cannot advance anywhere in life because of my family. i feel like i'll be forever tied to them and i don't want that. they're too controlling. i just want a life of my own. but now after my saturn return, i'll have to deal with them even more?
I have saturn in 4 th house Sag with Uranus conjunct. I lost my father when I was 4 and my mother when I was 9. I sold all I inherited from my parents, by the age of 24 and came to live in a foreign country. I am 31 now. Although I have siblings, I don't have that much connection with them. Anyhow learn a lot and grew stronger from all of those experiences.
This video was so hard to watch as a mother with 2 children who both have Saturn in the 4th! I love my kids so much and hope Im giving them a great childhood. They both have Venus in the 4th too so maybe positive energy will balance it out.
My mother has this in aquarius. She was born in Africa but is now in Portugal. She also has to take care of my grandmother a lot of the days, but I see that she doesn't like it very much to be around her that long, my grandmother isn't properly the most affectionate type of a person :/
I’m helping someone read their chart with Saturn in the 4th, their sibling has it too and oth parents have it in the 12th. It’s not a feel good placement for them for sure!
Hi, yes,the information is quite accurate. Saturn in fourth denies personal joy,gives tonnes of responsibility.a rigid,controlling stern nature,lots of relatives to take care of besides parents. Caretakers of orphanges,mental patients,nurses in hospitals have this placement Which is the planet which is most happy in the fourth house? Also,which placement of saturn gives minimum unfinished Karma with parents?
My dad doesn't have this aspect his Saturn is in the 5th house but close to the 4th house and he hates change. He would rather die than change. Even if it is a good thing to change. He won't do it and his Saturn is in Scorpio. located in the 5th house 7 degrees. So the energy is still here. It can be quite frustrating when you show proof or come up with some sort of compromise... HE won't budge. It can be suffocating... My mom is the same way to an extent but her Saturn is located in the 12th house. So She must have picked up some of his energy... IT's literally suffocating. I thought my Saturn with Capricorn was complicated. No... My son has Saturn in the 4th house with Sag in it and so far. understanding he is 3 years old. Haven't much of a problem. Yet. Later on like teen years and early adult years. We shall see how he would act.
loved it! Very spot on. I have a my natal Saturn in the 4th house. What can one do with a Saturn (in Sag) but in the 4th house cusp of Scorpio do to remediation the karmic stuff going on?
Wow..so rightly said. I have saturn pluto conjuct in libra in my 4th house and they are squaring transit saturn pluto conjuct in capricorn currently, so stressful time. I don’t wish it on anyone.
Thank you Lada, Everything said in video rings true for me, I have Saturn in Sagittarius exactly conjunct IC cusp in 0 degrees, squaring my 12th house sun, Ascendant, opposing my MC... I am only child, growing up only with worcoholic mother, childhood was hell...other planets in my 4th house are Uranus, and Neptune so I don´t have high hopes for my own family...Life is HARD. Thank Lord, I have 9th house moon(already living in different country).
So true !! I have Saturn in 4 th house with Jupiter, Sun and Moon... it I s complex I guess ? What that means ? Can you make video on conjunction of the planets ? Thank you 🙏
Funny I think I am becoming a Saturn/Capricorn....I listening to you about your father and my daughter is saying that about me. Also the universe is funny because my grandmother before she die in 2007 made me feel this way, now 9 years later the universe is repeating it self through in me....Roots are tangled.
I use whole sign houses in western & I have a T square with my leo sun and the 10th opposition fourth house SaturnRx Aquarius both square my 1st house pluto in scorpio, I also have pluto conjunct my rising? what can I do? it's a lot
Hi lada, does this count as well if you have saturn 17 degrees in the 12th house (in taurus) aspecting mercury (virgo) in the 4th house? (saturn trine mercury) i also have a saturn jupiter conjunction that its not really a conjunction apparently (jupiter 4 degrees in the 12 and 11 houses). can you help me out?
My parents didn't do shit except give me their karmic ancestral bullshit.. I'm selling my shit. They can enjoy their old age with their favorite kid.. I'm stuck. Felt stuck! I'm moving away.. I'm completing all the shit. I'm 44... I'm having my Mars opposing Saturn now. Have natal Saturn. My parents make me feel guilty for wanting to move.. Im dying where I'm living at. I need to get out of here!
True is that I feel I have karma of all generations on my back, I can see the patterns (also have very difficoult relationship with my mother - strong and close but foreign too - she is really controling person managing everything - and from my childhood I was dreaming I have different mother...) and I want to escape from my family... I can't ... Feeling of inability. Pluto is transiting my 4th house - now is on my Neptune opposite Sun and hopefully everything will change or I'll explode. And interesting is my connection with jupiter 9th house (quincunx)
DLO Brown I have Capricorn Rising Saturn in 4th house (Gemini) Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant Sun Aquarius (1st) house Leo Moon (7th) house Pluto (11th) house I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them Plz help
gyazo.com/6203f455130df96263cb3e4f702d5e5f hi ,may u explain why the houses r diferents here? i thought i had saturn , uranus nd neptune in 4th house, but regarding what u use they re in 5th house,. how is dat?
Hi Lada, my saturn, moon and leo are in 4th house. Is this karma permanent? I wanted to move out of my house but having financial difficulties i couldn't i am thinking if saturn effect will diminish or removed say after mid life? Will this 4th house stabilize?
Hi Lada, thank you for your replies. One more question, is astrology an ancient psychology study? It seems like there are so many things in astrology that are related to a person's character, the type of marriage we will have, difficulties we will face etc..we know a person's character we will know what problems he will face. Is this psychology ?
Amir O Kareem I have Capricorn Rising Saturn in 4th house (Gemini) Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant Sun Aquarius (1st) house Leo Moon (7th) house Pluto (11th) house I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them Plz help
I have Capricorn Rising Saturn in 4th house (Gemini) Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant Sun Aquarius (1st) house Leo Moon (7th) house Pluto (11th) house I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them Plz help
Thank you for another enlightening video. I've learned so much about myself thanks to you! When you have other planets in the 4th house along with Saturn (like for example the Sun, Neptune, Uranus and Mercury) does it further strengthen the house or does it weaken it? (Yes, unfortunately my 4th house is incredibly loaded with planets hehe)
Hi Lada, I have Saturn (19.53) + Mars(11.57) + Pluto(26.05) in Libra/4th house. could you tell me what it means. Also, I had been watching your videos for long time now, and I would like to Thank you for doing these wonderful videos. Very informative. After watching this video I am able to understand few events that took place in my life. I really appreciate your effort to share some of your knowledge with all of us. Thank you! :)
Thank you Annie! Can I ask you how is your family relationships? 3 hard planets in the 4th house--can create some serious difficulties with family, property or country of origin, also it is very hard on the emotions.
Lada Duncheva Hi, Lada, thank you for your response. I am Aries (sun), Taurus (moon) and cancer (rising). I feel I have been through hard time since my childhood, yes relationship with parents or with my partner has always been difficult. I feel very controlled no matter how much I work hard to gain their love and respect, all my hard work is never been noticed nor appreciated. Instead silly mistake is pointed out to put me down. Also, ever since my childhood, I felt deprived of parents love( I am the eldest out of 3 kids). as a kid felt deprived of personal joy, I had lots of responsibility. and in my 20's I had to take care of my aunt with final stage of cancer, my grandma - who had Parkinson disease. in my late 20's I had to tkae care of my dad - who had pulmonary fibrosis. Unfortunately, I lost all of them. Also, when it comes to expressing my feelings and emotions, I feel i am emotionally strained and drained. and relaxing or sleeping peacefully has always been out of my reach. I worry about my future all the time. After marriage, I moved to different country and lived here for more than 5 yrs now. Also, I had been In a healthcare field earlier to marriage, and after moving to different country I had to struggle for 5 yrs to get a brake(even though I had a excellent GPA and experience). Last yr Dec I got acceptance into 3yrs study in same field, which is my first happy moment after 5 long years of mental agony, pain and hard work. I feel nothing is easy in my life, I have struggled hard to achieve every thing be it silly thing or the most precious one in my life. Everyday, everything I do; seems to take twice or thrice the effort, when others get it done so easily. I use to consider myself not so smart or good at anything. Emotionally,I never appreciated myself as well. After watching your videos on Saturn; I feel I am not weird and I understand why I felt or feel so. hope my early 30's bring me some light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks a lot Lada :).
Annie C wow thank you so much for this honest share Annie! Indeed seems Saturn is really powerful in your 4th house as it is exalted there, so it is very strong! Mars and Saturn conjunction is a touch one-it is about being critised a lot for every mistake and action--you can watch my Saturn aspect Mars video and it will be hearing your story
Lada Duncheva I did watch that video. You are right. It makes me feel really bad. But, As mentioned by in the videos that as we age, It gets better in 30-35 yrs of age. But, In my case, when all three bad planets are in one place, D0 you thing the same applies to me as well.
Annie C pluto will make sure to totally transform these--can make some of the experiences more painful even, but at one moment in life there is a like a break through and a total turn around-this is what Pluto does,
also whats your take on mars in sag in fourth and saturn and uranus in cap in 4th house, thats my cousin;no ones seen him in years,will he ever come back?
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I have Saturn in 4th house.
I wouldn't say I like routines at all + I love renovating home...hmm...
But still, yes I do have parents karma (I was taken from my mother at the age of 3 and met her on my 23th birthday), I had a really unusual childhood, I am worrying too much about things, I have time to time battles with emotions. BUT! One great thing you said and I agree 100% with it - I LOVE vintage cars & wish to build a house in nature out of stone and wood.
I'm 27 and one astrologist also told me that I'll have to wait until 30.
Good luck and best wishes!
DAMN! That was so spot on...thank God I am nearly 40 now and ready to make right with the karma of my 1st half of life...glad I found this video, it brought a lot of clarity!
I have this placement but with Neptune and uranus as well, but all in retrograde. It has a correlation to when he developed dementia a couple years back and it felt like I was being smothered by both his needs and my toxic ex girlfriend simultaneously. when he relocated with my step brother I felt a burden was lifted, only to be replaced by my mothers need for reassurance, who was more career focused during my childhood due to my dad's early retirement.
Now at the age of 28, I find myself being the shoulder for everyone to lean on, which rarely is reciprocated. I look at family as a liability, yet long for closeness and prefer being surrounded by strangers. I have also moved over 20 times, so the concept of roots is rather foreign.
Needed to get that off my mind...
Strict mom, yes.
Emotional blockage, yes. I think getting connections with my own emotions is kinda mission impossible and remains a mystery to me.
pay karma to parents: yes. the only child and they took a good care of me when raising me. when it's time for me to take care of them I returned the favor, quite fair.
Sturdy house got after 30, yes.
Jupiter dominate in my chart, so a lot of moving around.
Always change the arrangements of the furniture.
Routine very flexible.
Totally cut off from all ties of my home country: land, people & tradition.
I hate tradition and all those superstitious old practices since I was a kid. Very strong Uranus energy in my chart.
Interesting. I have Saturn retrograde in the 4th, and I have always loved dry mountainous landscapes and classic American cars, lol. I drive a '91 Cadillac Brougham given to me by my grandfather (definitely acquired by Saturnian means.) I love that car, and grew up in it, and i always have this sense of nostalgia even towards things I've never actually owned or experienced. Also, had a very difficult, emotionally debilitating, and thus distant relationship with my mother. I'm pretty much a loner now, at 26.
Wow this is on point for me. Growing up I had a mentally ill parents with very poor a lot of pain my parents just weren't there for me mentally and emotionally. And that my Saturn return I moved away which was one of the best things I ever did.
yes age will help with all Saturn difficulties, so things improve :)
Yup! At 31 ⚡💜Magically I feel more Calm🙏🏻😌💖🤗Sorted and Grounded!!
I agree with all of the indications. I wish I would have found this video years ago! So insightful. Thank you Lada Duncheva
Thank you so much Lada. It is like that. I have Saturn and the Sun conjunct in the 0 - 4 degrees in the 4th house. It is difficult and I just find real peace in nature. I hope someday I can be everywhere just feeling good feeling my heart and stop haveing this sense of worrying :) Much love and light.
Belen Nerea I have Capricorn Rising
Saturn in 4th house (Gemini)
Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant
Sun Aquarius (1st) house
Leo Moon (7th) house
Pluto (11th) house
I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them
Plz help
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Lada you must have been (and still are) the light in your father's heart. I know from experience of 4th house Saturn that these people feel great courage and inspiration in the very qualities that radiate out of you. I'm going back now to finish your latest video. I wanted to tell you this.
wow this is trippy. I sense I will be the one taking care of my parents later on, also how you mentioned about the issues with parents when I was younger. I have a Scorpio Saturn so I totally get into a negative mindset easy. Great stuff Lada! I hope later in life I can get that nice isolated place to myself or with a family. We shall see!
I understand the strict parents experience! And worrying too much and trying to care too much about others and being rigid in some ways, excellent video
This is the best video on Saturn in fourth house that I've seen.
Thank you Jason!
I have Sat in 4th. Also, moon square Saturn by birth aspect. Also, Sun in Capricorn in the 4th. And this description is completely true for me. I have tried to leave the bad karma of my family. But now it's my Saturn return and I'm home again. Dealing with this instead of trying to leave.
Has the situation improved after saturn return?
Same
This is so true (SATURN in 4th HOUSE) - Left our homeland 18 years ago, and now live in a dry, mountainous, cold country.
I have three people in my life with this position of Saturn, and your description is spot on!
What would it take to complete my karma with the land and with my mother? I've found a new spiritual path of trusting in God completely with everything. It has been incredible. Especially now that my rocky relationship with my mother has become completely estranged. I have moon opp chiron in the 4th house with a moon-saturn-uranus conjunction.
Sometimes she treats me horribly but I am actually finding the blessing of it. I'm learning how deeply God loves and I've learned how to be so grateful in every moment. I wouldn't be the way I am without my parents because I wouldn't have had to learn it.
That said, I wonder if completing the karma is just letting them go. Not asking them to be my parents anymore energetically. Allowing that cord to break and not seeking any further love, validation, or relationship from them.
Hi Lada, thank you for making this video and your research on 4th house saturn. After listening to this video I felt like you are talking about my life.
Working with my father in his shop. He turns 80 yrs. old tomorrow. Looking forward to my own property and vehicle. Have been a gardener for 30 years in my home town. The growing conditions are horrible. I am so amazed you are so correct. I am hopeful now as I am almost 60 yrs. old. now.
beautiful astrologer and true thoughts .my saturn is in forth house and realized.thanks a lot lada.sweet lada.
You are simply great, and also the cutest astrologer I've ever encountered ..
All what you have said about Saturn in 4th. is extremely true.
I don't have this placement fortunately, but I know someone who is typical as you said
Amazing,
And really great work.
Congratulation.
Dont worry, Saturn in Libra is exalted, so things in that area of your life will be getting better and life with age!
Oh boy... Saturn R in Virgo in the 4th. I have moved houses starting at 20 SO many times, people call me a gypsy. 😂 I have owned properties, including big pieces of land, by 30. I have also lived in 2 countries for many years, changing states and cities. After 30 I have moved at least every 1.5 years. I constantly feel the need to renovate and change the place I live in. I am also very close with my parents. The question: what does Saturn in the 4th mean? 🤣
MVKLumiere I have Capricorn Rising
Saturn in 4th house (Gemini)
Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant
Sun Aquarius (1st) house
Leo Moon (7th) house
Pluto (11th) house
I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them
Plz help
Same I’ve been called a gypsy all my life 🤷🏽♀️
yes it is psychology of a sort. The father of modern psychology-Carl Yung was an avid astrologer using the birth chart to profile his more difficult cases
wow my son has Saturn in Leo in his 4th house!!! he is a moody brewer who loves old school cars & being bossy as well as routine (its like living with an old father/man). I have Saturn Leo in 7th house so we are similar but different areas of rigidity. Love yr information Lada!!! you are a perfect Aries mercury 3rd house messenger xo
thank you so much, Evie! People with Saturn in 4th tend to become more relaxed in later age, it suits them better. :)
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I had a boyfriend who has this position. He was so worried about his parent (and everyone else too, by the same token, his Sun is Pieces) all the time, that he got terrible, chronic back pain. Doctors could not find any reason to his pains that continued, continued for yeas. I do not know now what the situation is, because I haven't had connection to him any more, last time I spoke to him his back pain had became worse. -This all really made ME worry about him! He did not seem to have his own life at all! He could not go anywhere and develop his life, because all the time there were his parents - even they lived far away!
gee, this sounds a heavy case Saturn in the 4th! Maybe his back will also improve if he is able to forgive or heal the issues with the parents. 4th/10th house are the backbone of the horoscope and maleficts there often can show issues of the back bone due to mother/father issues
I hope so. He also has Pluto in conjunct with Saturn, directly in IC. And this combination is in quincunx with his Mars. And his Mars and Venus are actually in conjunct with my Sun and Venus… and many other things. Well, he's a wonderful man, not only in the map! The parent-problem just was/is terrible. Its also about the cultures: he lives in the different culture than his parents now, and life is so different there. I think his map tells it very well.
Saturn in the 8 house
You are so accurate! Thank you Lada! 🌹
I have saturn conjuct uranus and neptune in capricorn in the 4th house. I have a narcisistic mother, took care of my sibblings from her other marriage since i was 10. Her husband was violent and abusing. She wanted me to be super sucessful. She used to say that depression dont exists and that i make up things. I have pluto in scorpio in first house. In saturn in scorpio i left home and cut ties for 4 years, now i talk to them through internet. I went to live with my father and grandmother. Someway i see my grandmother as my mother now, cuz she gives me love and expect nothing in return, but i still am emotionally tied to my mother, but not in a good way. I struggle a lot to make career work till now ( im turning 29). Im a virgo.
@32lxx6ika 88 Thank you friend!! I hope so!!
it counts, especially since the Moon has very similar influence as the 4th house
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Stay happy Lady Lada ♡
My father also has Saturn in 4th house He really overprotected us . He always tried to control our life and our path life that was very annoying 😓😓😓
OMG - this was my first husband to a T! Ha ha, I'm Jupitarian and it drove me up the wall that he saw everything in such a critical, fearful and negative light. He is massively traditional (and dare I say on a public forum, controlling!) and even has an incurable obsession with vintage cars! Too funny! I love how astrology just WORKS!
Lada, this video is SO precise for me. I have Saturn retrograde in the 4th house, in conjunction with Pluto retrograde. Saturn in Scorpio 0º and Pluto in Libra 27º. It will take me a like time to understand all that.
I always wanted to leave the home early and move to another country, I tried but still had to go back home to live with my family. Last week I started gardening and enjoy it a lot, getting used to living with my family but I still want to move away. How to end this karma? My Saturn return starts in April 2020.
What is your ascendent ?
I am leo ascendant and saturn sitting in fourth in scorpio .....i lost my life thanks to my parents.
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Perfect analysis Lada.
Thank you!
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listen to both videos then, and see which one u feel more. Buy it can be both. Retro saturn is even more powerful
What happens when you have both Saturn and Pluto in 4th??
My niece is 8 years old..she acts like an old woman..telling everyone what to do. She is exceptionally bright & has a stellium in the 10th. I'm a realtor & im pretty sure she will be one too.
Kay Ellis I have Capricorn Rising
Saturn in 4th house (Gemini)
Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant
Sun Aquarius (1st) house
Leo Moon (7th) house
Pluto (11th) house
I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them
Plz help
Thank you Lada,
This is soooo scarily accurate for my chart/life.
Hm, I'm so confused.. I have Saturn AND the Sun in the fourth house, but in the third Cusp (I'm born quite far north).. I understand now why I am so conflicted about home. I have been living abroad for almost two years and I both love and have a hard time being away from my family and my parents house (which is still "home" for me, I'm only 24). Defo a hard combo to navigate..
yes, I will soon :) Just have so many horoscopes these few weeks, hope I find the time but I will get there
i have this placement and i absolutely hate it. because i have a 10H libra stellium, my 4H aries saturn is opposing all of that. i literally cannot advance anywhere in life because of my family. i feel like i'll be forever tied to them and i don't want that. they're too controlling. i just want a life of my own. but now after my saturn return, i'll have to deal with them even more?
u will most likely have the possibility to move when Jupiter enters leo in 2014 onwards
Lada Duncheva so true for me. We moved from USA to our home land in 2015 after staying for 7 years in USA..
I have saturn in 4 th house Sag with Uranus conjunct. I lost my father when I was 4 and my mother when I was 9. I sold all I inherited from my parents, by the age of 24 and came to live in a foreign country. I am 31 now. Although I have siblings, I don't have that much connection with them. Anyhow learn a lot and grew stronger from all of those experiences.
I hv Saturn retrograde in sag in 4th house. I hv been singled for 6 years now. -_-
This video was so hard to watch as a mother with 2 children who both have Saturn in the 4th! I love my kids so much and hope Im giving them a great childhood. They both have Venus in the 4th too so maybe positive energy will balance it out.
It can mean you r their rock! And you teach them some good Saturn values like respect and accountability and caution
Saturn is my chart ruler so i can relate to all of your saturn through the houses videos with other planets as well aspecting my chart.
4th house Saturn in Scorpio in Leo ascendant is one of the most challenging karmic placements.
Maddona has this.
that is a matter of analysing the whole horoscope-to see if the person has long life if he is still alive, etc
My mother has this in aquarius. She was born in Africa but is now in Portugal. She also has to take care of my grandmother a lot of the days, but I see that she doesn't like it very much to be around her that long, my grandmother isn't properly the most affectionate type of a person :/
Thank you Lada a million times!!! You are amazing!
I’m helping someone read their chart with Saturn in the 4th, their sibling has it too and oth parents have it in the 12th. It’s not a feel good placement for them for sure!
Hi I use western tropical astrology as I find it more correct! So stick with the 3rd house
yes, this was spot on.
Hi,
yes,the information is quite accurate.
Saturn in fourth denies personal joy,gives tonnes of responsibility.a rigid,controlling stern nature,lots of relatives to take care of besides parents.
Caretakers of orphanges,mental patients,nurses in hospitals have this placement
Which is the planet which is most happy in the fourth house?
Also,which placement of saturn gives minimum unfinished Karma with parents?
I wouldnt say it denies joy, but might delay it
My dad doesn't have this aspect his Saturn is in the 5th house but close to the 4th house and he hates change. He would rather die than change. Even if it is a good thing to change. He won't do it and his Saturn is in Scorpio. located in the 5th house 7 degrees. So the energy is still here. It can be quite frustrating when you show proof or come up with some sort of compromise... HE won't budge. It can be suffocating... My mom is the same way to an extent but her Saturn is located in the 12th house. So She must have picked up some of his energy... IT's literally suffocating. I thought my Saturn with Capricorn was complicated. No... My son has Saturn in the 4th house with Sag in it and so far. understanding he is 3 years old. Haven't much of a problem. Yet. Later on like teen years and early adult years. We shall see how he would act.
great insight mam
loved it! Very spot on. I have a my natal Saturn in the 4th house. What can one do with a Saturn (in Sag) but in the 4th house cusp of Scorpio do to remediation the karmic stuff going on?
This is VERY accurate. Thank you. :)
Wow..so rightly said. I have saturn pluto conjuct in libra in my 4th house and they are squaring transit saturn pluto conjuct in capricorn currently, so stressful time. I don’t wish it on anyone.
Wow when i was watching i feel like i am slapped hardly. Thank you :)
Thank you Lada, Everything said in video rings true for me,
I have Saturn in Sagittarius exactly conjunct IC cusp in 0 degrees, squaring my 12th house sun, Ascendant, opposing my MC... I am only child, growing up only with worcoholic mother, childhood was hell...other planets in my 4th house are Uranus, and Neptune so I don´t have high hopes for my own family...Life is HARD.
Thank Lord, I have 9th house moon(already living in different country).
My satarn is in 4th house and am a Lio asandent... Time is not going well.. what to do...!!!
Pluto Saturn conjunct in 4th house of scorpio. Father died when I was 13.
So true !! I have Saturn in 4 th house with Jupiter, Sun and Moon... it I s complex I guess ? What that means ?
Can you make video on conjunction of the planets ? Thank you 🙏
Funny I think I am becoming a Saturn/Capricorn....I listening to you about your father and my daughter is saying that about me. Also the universe is funny because my grandmother before she die in 2007 made me feel this way, now 9 years later the universe is repeating it self through in me....Roots are tangled.
No love by mother close my dad really hurts but I still love her
I have Saturn in 4th house Gemini
Thank you ox
Now I understand
I use whole sign houses in western & I have a T square with my leo sun and the 10th opposition fourth house SaturnRx Aquarius both square my 1st house pluto in scorpio, I also have pluto conjunct my rising? what can I do? it's a lot
Hi lada, does this count as well if you have saturn 17 degrees in the 12th house (in taurus) aspecting mercury (virgo) in the 4th house? (saturn trine mercury) i also have a saturn jupiter conjunction that its not really a conjunction apparently (jupiter 4 degrees in the 12 and 11 houses). can you help me out?
My parents didn't do shit except give me their karmic ancestral bullshit.. I'm selling my shit. They can enjoy their old age with their favorite kid.. I'm stuck. Felt stuck! I'm moving away.. I'm completing all the shit. I'm 44... I'm having my Mars opposing Saturn now. Have natal Saturn. My parents make me feel guilty for wanting to move.. Im dying where I'm living at. I need to get out of here!
Ms Lada I came across some events of people Saturn in fourth house missing their first marriage , and marry after a long break , what is your opinion.
Sun, saturn, mercury, neptune, uranus all are in 11th house of capricorn,
I am lost in life
More planets there can make the situation more complex...
Both of my daughters have this placement one in libra other in Virgo I want to further understand their relationship with me. Any insights?
True is that I feel I have karma of all generations on my back, I can see the patterns (also have very difficoult relationship with my mother - strong and close but foreign too - she is really controling person managing everything - and from my childhood I was dreaming I have different mother...) and I want to escape from my family... I can't ... Feeling of inability. Pluto is transiting my 4th house - now is on my Neptune opposite Sun and hopefully everything will change or I'll explode. And interesting is my connection with jupiter 9th house (quincunx)
DLO Brown I have Capricorn Rising
Saturn in 4th house (Gemini)
Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant
Sun Aquarius (1st) house
Leo Moon (7th) house
Pluto (11th) house
I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them
Plz help
@@emmanuelchavez8258 Hey, how are you doing now?
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thanks for your lovely demonstration.in my horoscope saturn in 4th house and its mentioned has within brackets.can you kindly explain me ?.
I have Saturn & Jupiter in the 4th house !
hello lada i have virgo and saturn in the 4th house what does that mean pls😊
Hey... Can you also do a review describing saturn aspecting pluto and jupiter aspecting Pluto in the natal chart...
All siblings and myself have saturn in fourth house.
How was your relationship with your mother?
Spot on!!!!! Amazing
I hope I don't have a wait til 35!
gyazo.com/6203f455130df96263cb3e4f702d5e5f hi ,may u explain why the houses r diferents here? i thought i had saturn , uranus nd neptune in 4th house, but regarding what u use they re in 5th house,. how is dat?
Is it bad to have Saturn in 4th in relocation chart?
Hi Lada, my saturn, moon and leo are in 4th house. Is this karma permanent? I wanted to move out of my house but having financial difficulties i couldn't i am thinking if saturn effect will diminish or removed say after mid life? Will this 4th house stabilize?
Hi Lada, thank you for your replies. One more question, is astrology an ancient psychology study? It seems like there are so many things in astrology that are related to a person's character, the type of marriage we will have, difficulties we will face etc..we know a person's character we will know what problems he will face. Is this psychology ?
I have saturn retrograde in the fourth house in the sign of Sagittarius and I don't think it fits me. Maybe it does, but I don't think so.
Amir O Kareem I have Capricorn Rising
Saturn in 4th house (Gemini)
Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant
Sun Aquarius (1st) house
Leo Moon (7th) house
Pluto (11th) house
I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them
Plz help
I have Capricorn Rising
Saturn in 4th house (Gemini)
Moon Opp. Sun/Ascendant
Sun Aquarius (1st) house
Leo Moon (7th) house
Pluto (11th) house
I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my life whether to rebel my family or to accept them
Plz help
Thank you for another enlightening video. I've learned so much about myself thanks to you!
When you have other planets in the 4th house along with Saturn (like for example the Sun, Neptune, Uranus and Mercury) does it further strengthen the house or does it weaken it? (Yes, unfortunately my 4th house is incredibly loaded with planets hehe)
Hi Lada, I have Saturn (19.53) + Mars(11.57) + Pluto(26.05) in Libra/4th house. could you tell me what it means.
Also, I had been watching your videos for long time now, and I would like to Thank you for doing these wonderful videos. Very informative. After watching this video I am able to understand few events that took place in my life. I really appreciate your effort to share some of your knowledge with all of us. Thank you! :)
Thank you Annie! Can I ask you how is your family relationships? 3 hard planets in the 4th house--can create some serious difficulties with family, property or country of origin, also it is very hard on the emotions.
Lada Duncheva Hi, Lada, thank you for your response. I am Aries (sun), Taurus (moon) and cancer (rising). I feel I have been through hard time since my childhood, yes relationship with parents or with my partner has always been difficult. I feel very controlled no matter how much I work hard to gain their love and respect, all my hard work is never been noticed nor appreciated. Instead silly mistake is pointed out to put me down. Also, ever since my childhood, I felt deprived of parents love( I am the eldest out of 3 kids). as a kid felt deprived of personal joy, I had lots of responsibility. and in my 20's I had to take care of my aunt with final stage of cancer, my grandma - who had Parkinson disease. in my late 20's I had to tkae care of my dad - who had pulmonary fibrosis. Unfortunately, I lost all of them. Also, when it comes to expressing my feelings and emotions, I feel i am emotionally strained and drained. and relaxing or sleeping peacefully has always been out of my reach. I worry about my future all the time.
After marriage, I moved to different country and lived here for more than 5 yrs now. Also, I had been In a healthcare field earlier to marriage, and after moving to different country I had to struggle for 5 yrs to get a brake(even though I had a excellent GPA and experience). Last yr Dec I got acceptance into 3yrs study in same field, which is my first happy moment after 5 long years of mental agony, pain and hard work.
I feel nothing is easy in my life, I have struggled hard to achieve every thing be it silly thing or the most precious one in my life. Everyday, everything I do; seems to take twice or thrice the effort, when others get it done so easily. I use to consider myself not so smart or good at anything. Emotionally,I never appreciated myself as well. After watching your videos on Saturn; I feel I am not weird and I understand why I felt or feel so. hope my early 30's bring me some light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks a lot Lada :).
Annie C wow thank you so much for this honest share Annie! Indeed seems Saturn is really powerful in your 4th house as it is exalted there, so it is very strong! Mars and Saturn conjunction is a touch one-it is about being critised a lot for every mistake and action--you can watch my Saturn aspect Mars video and it will be hearing your story
Lada Duncheva I did watch that video. You are right. It makes me feel really bad. But, As mentioned by in the videos that as we age, It gets better in 30-35 yrs of age. But, In my case, when all three bad planets are in one place, D0 you thing the same applies to me as well.
Annie C pluto will make sure to totally transform these--can make some of the experiences more painful even, but at one moment in life there is a like a break through and a total turn around-this is what Pluto does,
In vedic astrology, my saturn is in the 4th house.
But in western astrology, my saturn is in 4th house.
I'm confused. Which one is the accurate one?
What does the Saturn retrograde in 4th house mean ??
also whats your take on mars in sag in fourth and saturn and uranus in cap in 4th house, thats my cousin;no ones seen him in years,will he ever come back?
wow... Interior design major with saturn in 4th house... in capricorn. That's managing the land, right? lol
Thank you for your reply :)
@ladaduncheva will you be doing any conjunction videos?