You’re right David, that keyboard isn’t cheap at all. This has been my biggest investment; I got the M4 iPad Pro 13sh “ with the keyboard and pencil pro. So far I like it a lot, but there are things that aren’t so pro at all, such as Apple doesn’t allow to use the pencil pro to touch the white line bars to close apps a bit annoying there and the battery on iPad is rather limited. Overall, it is a good device. Hey David, question, have you noticed that when you plug in the USBC cable to the keyboard clamshell being opened it’s kinda hard to pull or unplug it🙈
I hadn't noticed that...but I will keep an eye open for it now you've mentioned it. There are still odd points that need to be improved upon, but coming from a Mac user new to iPad, the experience has been pretty good!
I love the blue accents all over the video. I'm not sure if it's intentional but blue iMac behind blue wallpaper iPad with blue accented icons, you in a blue shirt. Nice touch (if intentional).
I've gotta get my head around the exceptional content, awesome mind boggling ! Duel display and sidekick needs a lot more of my attention...............great stuff, thanks.
Great vid. I’m interested in attaching the new M4 Mac Mini to an iPad Pro M4 as its monitor. Could be an incredible mini set up with my 11 inch. I think many will be tempted if the Magic Keyboard works with the M4 Mini - would be a more versatile set up than the similarly priced Oled MBP M6 2026.
Sadly, I think the days of large iMacs will be a thing of the past...the Pro display XDR and Studio Display/ Mac Studio kind of put paid to it I reckon...
I do This with my M4 ipad pro 13”. You can also hide the black options bars you have there on your ipad while using it as a monitor so you have the whole screen for your Windows.
I think that App developers don't prioritize certain apps for the iPad because the iPad runs the full desktop version of Safari, making certain apps unnecessary.
Hey, I was waiting for a video from you! I got my iPhone 16 Pro in, and I have opinions on the camera button as a left-handed person. My overall impression is I'm not as happy as I thought I would be, and I understand why people are frustrated with the button. I'll start with the good first, and then move to the rest. When holding the phone in my left hand My thumb rests nicely on the lower volume button, and my pointer finger rests nicely on the camera button. So for one-handed left-hand use--the button is in a PERFECT spot. The pointer finger on the dominate hand is probably the most accurate finger we have. It's why keyboard warriors peck with it. ;) So for one handed use. I can do it all. Open the camera. Zoom, take photos, keep the phone steady and level. Oh, but the catch is, the photo will be vertical. =/ My biggest DOWNSIDE of being left-handed is that while holding my phone this way, and trying to use the Action Button with my left thumb, pushing the button pushes my phone into my fingers. With my main leverage point being camera button against the pointer finger. What happens is that it takes more pressure to activate the Action button than the camera button. So when you push them both together -- the camera button always activates first. Which makes using the action button much harder for me to use. As for holding the phone landscape. One of the biggest issues lefthanded people have always had is to hold the left side of the phone (the top end) often means wanting to put fingers right ontop of the camera. This is much more a problem with the smaller pro version than the bigger one. It's also a bigger issue with apple phones compared to the S24 ultra which keeps all the cameras in a straight line on the top edge (during landscap), so there's the whole bottom half to hold. Anything else in landscape is a complete wash. There's not enough dexterity in my right hand to do anything worthwhile. -- Overall, the camera button is one of the biggest reasons why I upgraded from my 14pro/S24 Ultra. I was able to remap the power button on the android to open the camera with a double tap. And now the camera button does it with a single tap, and they're both in basically the same spot (S24 ultra power button compared to camera button) So for it being a camera button. I do like it in that spot a lot more than the action button. Action button is in a really weird and wonky spot for a left handed person. And here's an example. If you try to use the action key while holding your phone in landscape to take a photo -- it's really really awkward. Especially for a leftie. Maybe it's better for a right-handed person? Huh, now I'm rambling. I just may have discovered a game changer. If you hold the phone landscape, but upside down, the camera button aligns fairly well with the lefthand thumb, and can be used with a lot of control to zoom and take photos without it being too complex (for a lefty). It almost feels intuitive. Except for the fact that I'd have to get used to taking photos with my phone upside down. I'm going to have to work on this. -- But realistically, back to the main review. I love the button for being a button. I wanted a camera button to activate the camera physically while I reach into my pocket and grab it. The idea is that if something crazy happens (like a car accident), I reach for my phone, and it's already in camera mode or filming. It's a hardware feature I really wanted. How that button comes to be is debatable. I like the camera button much more than the action button. And since this is my first iphone with an action button, I hate that it's long-press. Why can't it just be like all the other buttons on the phone? What is this nonsense. -- I suspect Apple will probably move or change the camera button. I can see the controversy. But hopefully they don't make it too good ;) Now that I have an iphone with every feature I need I might sit on it for awhile. However, I'd still impulse buy a new iphone with Apple pencil support.
hi there - I think this comment probably has an entire video in it! It is fascinating to hear some feedback from a left-hander, which I know I asked for in that video. My take (no pun intended) is that the camera button has good and bad points, but for me, the negative points outdo the positive. I still launch the camera too many times when I pick it up from the charger. Generally, I still use the on-screen functions and as I shoot RAW don't use the Styles that much. I think it's work in motion...and will get better in time...
@@DavidLewisTech I have an additional take after spending more time with my phone. It would be near impossible to lower the camera button towards the bottom of the phone. As a left-handed person, I hold my phone in my left-hand. Which means the left-side of the phone rests snuggly against my palm, and my pointer finger (the highest pressure point) rests exactly just under the camera button. If they lowered that button at all, left-handed people would be squeezing that button non-stop, and it would probably make the phone near impossible for a left-handed person to use. So now I'm thinking when people say "Did Apple even test this?" I'm sure that's EXACLTY why the button is more towards the center and not near the bottom, because they didn't want to throw off the entire lefthanded community. Just try it with your own phone. Hold it in your right hand how you normally wold. Look at where your pressure points are and where that camera button would be if you reversed it.
Firat of all: topic quality video David. Now to be clear, that's SOP for you but I wanted to point it out because my sense was - yes, from the very beginning - that you were going to say "it's all been done on my iPad."" AND you mentioned the problem of the lack of plug in of important programs on the iPad. Yes that is a problem and, yes, that is the problem of the programmers, not the iPad. Interestingly enough I've found myself using my MBP more in the last week. Why? because I'm multitasking with using an external monitor that is larger than my iPad. Yes, I actually COULD do a form of multitasking natively on the iPad, but it's not quite what I'm used to because I've also had many years in the (gasp!) Windows world - generally as a Guest OS on one of many MBPs I've had over the years.. In many ways THAT was my ultimate work environment - for me work as a Windows Developer. Stage Manager doesn't quite do it for me...yet. And I really don't think that VMWare or Parallels will release a "full-enough" version of virtualization on the iPad. Now THAT would be the game changer!
If you use an iPad as Mac's second monitor, you can drag a window to the iPad and use an Apple pencil to sign your forms. If you have an iPad Pro M4, you have a reference monitor which is the best _quality_ monitor Apple's ever made.
Thats a tough one! I'm pretty certain I made a video about that earlier this summer. There are certainly some crossover areas and I guess it comes down to do you use many apps that are best suited to Mac - Audition for example... Thanks for watching and commenting David
Is it possible to do this with two iPad pros? No other computer, no other monitor, I want one iPad Pro to be the main screen, with a second iPad Pro, being an external.
Hi David, It’s been a while since I’ve commented. I have a question friend, how is your iPad Pro m4 running on IOS18 / IOS18.1 ?? Ive been reading and seeing a few videos on the system running much hotter then pre IOS18 and 18.1. Manny are saying the battery is draining noticeably faster and heat on the device while general usage, not even talking about heavy use like gaming / Video editing. ** BTW not hating on iPads in general for anyone reading this. I in-fact love the iPad more then any other device, i have a MacBook m3 pro, a razor blade with a RTX3070 and i still use my iPad Pro 2020 daily far more then anything else.
Hi there - great to hear from you again. it has been a while! I know you are a massive fan of the iPad in general and I'm glad to report that I have had no issues at all. I edited a complete YT video on it a few weeks back on a single charge! It's been just fine 👍🏻
Hi - titles are tricky when you take into account making sure that the video picks up traction, but I feel I delivered on the second monitor part and how effectively saves money too. I will never knowingly clickbait - it's short-lived and not my style.
Now I have a curious question. I'm suspecting the answer is no. We've established that the iPad can download videos from streaming services for offline use (like for an airplane trip), and we've established that you can connect an external storage device). I wonder if it's possible to download video using an iPad onto an external drive, and then play that video from the drive on another device like a PC or a Macbook. I suspect someone smarter than me already figured that out and patched it up, lol.
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure when you download on a streaming service for offline use ie Netflix….. it is saved to the app, not directly to your device downloads. I don’t believe you can export from the device.
PlayOn is the app for this. I use the home version, paid about £25 for the year (on offer), needs a Windows PC (had to borrow one) but now have about 140 movies (MP4) on a 2Tb stick I can play on any device. You have to log into the various services through the app, so have to subscribe to them. I used Netflix, Amazon Video and Disney+. One small downside is they record in realtime but you can create a playlist and just leave it recording 24/7, I did for about 10 days. There is a cloud version for phone etc, that uses a credit system, 3 credits per download I think, never tried it so dont know anymore.
You’re right David, that keyboard isn’t cheap at all. This has been my biggest investment; I got the M4 iPad Pro 13sh “ with the keyboard and pencil pro.
So far I like it a lot, but there are things that aren’t so pro at all, such as Apple doesn’t allow to use the pencil pro to touch the white line bars to close apps a bit annoying there and the battery on iPad is rather limited. Overall, it is a good device. Hey David, question, have you noticed that when you plug in the USBC cable to the keyboard clamshell being opened it’s kinda hard to pull or unplug it🙈
I hadn't noticed that...but I will keep an eye open for it now you've mentioned it.
There are still odd points that need to be improved upon, but coming from a Mac user new to iPad, the experience has been pretty good!
I love the blue accents all over the video. I'm not sure if it's intentional but blue iMac behind blue wallpaper iPad with blue accented icons, you in a blue shirt. Nice touch (if intentional).
Thank you - it's great to know the little details don't get lost...thank you for spotting and highlighting it!
I've gotta get my head around the exceptional content, awesome mind boggling ! Duel display and sidekick needs a lot more of my attention...............great stuff, thanks.
Cheers Alan - I dug a little deeper into Sidecar a few months back...🤛🏻
Great vid. I’m interested in attaching the new M4 Mac Mini to an iPad Pro M4 as its monitor. Could be an incredible mini set up with my 11 inch. I think many will be tempted if the Magic Keyboard works with the M4 Mini - would be a more versatile set up than the similarly priced Oled MBP M6 2026.
Damn! What a genius idea Trevor - I hadn't thought of that option!
I have a gen 3 iPad Pro and a 2011 intel imac. Am i ready to upgrade? Your best video yet sir.
Max - upgrade! Those fans on the Intel Macs alone need to go!!
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it too - thank you! 👌🏻
I was hoping for a 30 or 32 in imac or use the monitor on the intel imac and get a m4 Mac mini
Sadly, I think the days of large iMacs will be a thing of the past...the Pro display XDR and Studio Display/ Mac Studio kind of put paid to it I reckon...
@@maxcolvin9209been using my m2 pro Mac mini connected to 1440p monitor it’s great.
I do This with my M4 ipad pro 13”. You can also hide the black options bars you have there on your ipad while using it as a monitor so you have the whole screen for your Windows.
nice point - I should have highlighted that. Thank you!
I think that App developers don't prioritize certain apps for the iPad because the iPad runs the full desktop version of Safari, making certain apps unnecessary.
Great point! 👌🏻
@@DavidLewisTech When it comes to UA-cam, I find that all of UA-cam‘s website services are much better than its iPad apps.
Awesome video, thanks for your hard work. It's appreciated.
Thank you Brett! Took some work, but it was worth it!
Hey, I was waiting for a video from you!
I got my iPhone 16 Pro in, and I have opinions on the camera button as a left-handed person.
My overall impression is I'm not as happy as I thought I would be, and I understand why people are frustrated with the button.
I'll start with the good first, and then move to the rest. When holding the phone in my left hand My thumb rests nicely on the lower volume button, and my pointer finger rests nicely on the camera button. So for one-handed left-hand use--the button is in a PERFECT spot. The pointer finger on the dominate hand is probably the most accurate finger we have. It's why keyboard warriors peck with it. ;) So for one handed use. I can do it all. Open the camera. Zoom, take photos, keep the phone steady and level. Oh, but the catch is, the photo will be vertical. =/
My biggest DOWNSIDE of being left-handed is that while holding my phone this way, and trying to use the Action Button with my left thumb, pushing the button pushes my phone into my fingers. With my main leverage point being camera button against the pointer finger. What happens is that it takes more pressure to activate the Action button than the camera button. So when you push them both together -- the camera button always activates first. Which makes using the action button much harder for me to use.
As for holding the phone landscape. One of the biggest issues lefthanded people have always had is to hold the left side of the phone (the top end) often means wanting to put fingers right ontop of the camera. This is much more a problem with the smaller pro version than the bigger one. It's also a bigger issue with apple phones compared to the S24 ultra which keeps all the cameras in a straight line on the top edge (during landscap), so there's the whole bottom half to hold.
Anything else in landscape is a complete wash. There's not enough dexterity in my right hand to do anything worthwhile.
--
Overall, the camera button is one of the biggest reasons why I upgraded from my 14pro/S24 Ultra. I was able to remap the power button on the android to open the camera with a double tap. And now the camera button does it with a single tap, and they're both in basically the same spot (S24 ultra power button compared to camera button)
So for it being a camera button. I do like it in that spot a lot more than the action button. Action button is in a really weird and wonky spot for a left handed person.
And here's an example. If you try to use the action key while holding your phone in landscape to take a photo -- it's really really awkward. Especially for a leftie. Maybe it's better for a right-handed person?
Huh, now I'm rambling. I just may have discovered a game changer.
If you hold the phone landscape, but upside down, the camera button aligns fairly well with the lefthand thumb, and can be used with a lot of control to zoom and take photos without it being too complex (for a lefty). It almost feels intuitive. Except for the fact that I'd have to get used to taking photos with my phone upside down. I'm going to have to work on this.
--
But realistically, back to the main review. I love the button for being a button. I wanted a camera button to activate the camera physically while I reach into my pocket and grab it.
The idea is that if something crazy happens (like a car accident), I reach for my phone, and it's already in camera mode or filming. It's a hardware feature I really wanted. How that button comes to be is debatable. I like the camera button much more than the action button.
And since this is my first iphone with an action button, I hate that it's long-press. Why can't it just be like all the other buttons on the phone? What is this nonsense.
--
I suspect Apple will probably move or change the camera button. I can see the controversy. But hopefully they don't make it too good ;) Now that I have an iphone with every feature I need I might sit on it for awhile. However, I'd still impulse buy a new iphone with Apple pencil support.
hi there - I think this comment probably has an entire video in it!
It is fascinating to hear some feedback from a left-hander, which I know I asked for in that video.
My take (no pun intended) is that the camera button has good and bad points, but for me, the negative points outdo the positive. I still launch the camera too many times when I pick it up from the charger.
Generally, I still use the on-screen functions and as I shoot RAW don't use the Styles that much.
I think it's work in motion...and will get better in time...
@@DavidLewisTech I have an additional take after spending more time with my phone.
It would be near impossible to lower the camera button towards the bottom of the phone.
As a left-handed person, I hold my phone in my left-hand. Which means the left-side of the phone rests snuggly against my palm, and my pointer finger (the highest pressure point) rests exactly just under the camera button.
If they lowered that button at all, left-handed people would be squeezing that button non-stop, and it would probably make the phone near impossible for a left-handed person to use.
So now I'm thinking when people say "Did Apple even test this?" I'm sure that's EXACLTY why the button is more towards the center and not near the bottom, because they didn't want to throw off the entire lefthanded community.
Just try it with your own phone. Hold it in your right hand how you normally wold. Look at where your pressure points are and where that camera button would be if you reversed it.
yeah - I've just tried it...it's nigh on impossible
Firat of all: topic quality video David. Now to be clear, that's SOP for you but I wanted to point it out because my sense was - yes, from the very beginning - that you were going to say "it's all been done on my iPad."" AND you mentioned the problem of the lack of plug in of important programs on the iPad. Yes that is a problem and, yes, that is the problem of the programmers, not the iPad. Interestingly enough I've found myself using my MBP more in the last week. Why? because I'm multitasking with using an external monitor that is larger than my iPad. Yes, I actually COULD do a form of multitasking natively on the iPad, but it's not quite what I'm used to because I've also had many years in the (gasp!) Windows world - generally as a Guest OS on one of many MBPs I've had over the years.. In many ways THAT was my ultimate work environment - for me work as a Windows Developer. Stage Manager doesn't quite do it for me...yet. And I really don't think that VMWare or Parallels will release a "full-enough" version of virtualization on the iPad. Now THAT would be the game changer!
Wow - it sounds as if you have properly explored the options of multitasking - interesting story
This was really handy when I needed a dual monitor setup, when I was working in Covid response from our holiday home
Yeah, it is a dream workflow isn’t it!! 👌🏻
@@DavidLewisTech agreed!
If you use an iPad as Mac's second monitor, you can drag a window to the iPad and use an Apple pencil to sign your forms.
If you have an iPad Pro M4, you have a reference monitor which is the best _quality_ monitor Apple's ever made.
Yup - it is such an amazing colour-accurate monitor. I've picked up on grading errors before uploading by checking the videos on the M4 iPad Pro
Hmmm MacBook Air or iPad Pro? That is the question 🤔. Great video 👍🏻
Thats a tough one! I'm pretty certain I made a video about that earlier this summer. There are certainly some crossover areas and I guess it comes down to do you use many apps that are best suited to Mac - Audition for example...
Thanks for watching and commenting David
@@DavidLewisTech yes, I do recall that video. It seems the perfect solution is to have both a MAC OS and an iPad OS device. My wife will be pleased 😂
More likes n subscriptions for David please. He deserves a greater following. 🏅
thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏🏻
Is it possible to do this with two iPad pros? No other computer, no other monitor, I want one iPad Pro to be the main screen, with a second iPad Pro, being an external.
I don't believe you can Sidecar one iPad to another - I think it is a Mac/iPad workflow. Does anyone else know for sure?
Hi David, It’s been a while since I’ve commented. I have a question friend, how is your iPad Pro m4 running on IOS18 / IOS18.1 ?? Ive been reading and seeing a few videos on the system running much hotter then pre IOS18 and 18.1. Manny are saying the battery is draining noticeably faster and heat on the device while general usage, not even talking about heavy use like gaming / Video editing.
** BTW not hating on iPads in general for anyone reading this. I in-fact love the iPad more then any other device, i have a MacBook m3 pro, a razor blade with a RTX3070 and i still use my iPad Pro 2020 daily far more then anything else.
Hi there - great to hear from you again. it has been a while!
I know you are a massive fan of the iPad in general and I'm glad to report that I have had no issues at all. I edited a complete YT video on it a few weeks back on a single charge! It's been just fine 👍🏻
Is it me or is the title wrong for this video, I didn't see the main topic in the description about using as a second display.
Hi - titles are tricky when you take into account making sure that the video picks up traction, but I feel I delivered on the second monitor part and how effectively saves money too.
I will never knowingly clickbait - it's short-lived and not my style.
Now I have a curious question. I'm suspecting the answer is no.
We've established that the iPad can download videos from streaming services for offline use (like for an airplane trip), and we've established that you can connect an external storage device).
I wonder if it's possible to download video using an iPad onto an external drive, and then play that video from the drive on another device like a PC or a Macbook.
I suspect someone smarter than me already figured that out and patched it up, lol.
I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure when you download on a streaming service for offline use ie Netflix….. it is saved to the app, not directly to your device downloads. I don’t believe you can export from the device.
sounds right 🤛🏻
I imagine there would be all sorts of copyright laws prohibiting us from doing that. It would be too obvious, right?
@@DavidLewisTech nothing is ever free or that’s easy.
PlayOn is the app for this. I use the home version, paid about £25 for the year (on offer), needs a Windows PC (had to borrow one) but now have about 140 movies (MP4) on a 2Tb stick I can play on any device. You have to log into the various services through the app, so have to subscribe to them. I used Netflix, Amazon Video and Disney+. One small downside is they record in realtime but you can create a playlist and just leave it recording 24/7, I did for about 10 days.
There is a cloud version for phone etc, that uses a credit system, 3 credits per download I think, never tried it so dont know anymore.
There's something really bad happening with your audio. Like a high frequency sibilance/crackle. Really sizzley.
never been told that before and it sounded fine my side