Space Engineers - The Final Lotus? Planetary Cluster Launcher
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- After many attempts to try and convert the Death Lotus to proper use on planets these are my results.. it has it's uses still, especially as an orbital bombardment weapon, but definitely has it's flaws too! So perhaps the final lotus, mk VI..
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"It won't do precision" If you use the Lotus you aren't looking for precision.
You're looking for absolute anihalation!
Oh so this was the "thing" that F***** me up in Xocliws battle :P GG W4sted!
Captain Jack lol
hey jack, im a fan of your colony survivor, now wars series. one of you should defiantly use this on the other base, found this verson of the concept that seems to work well
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Jackkkk if u get this do u think u can make this and use on last stand gamer in colony wars I mean at least attack their bases with a missle
Or can u like make a new raptor and put missiles on it or the wyvern
Captain Jack you guys should make this in colony war
Fun fact. A powerful, primitive sort of gravity cannon is actually remarkably effective at defending against these in atmosphere.
A Primitive cannon is fairly inaccurate, and if you launch enough crap from it in rapid succession, it creates a sort of shield. Fairly short range shield, but the bonus is that if it's just random parts or stones, on most servers they despawn before they hit your base on the way back down.
Thaaaat's if the server is still running. Most can't survive a combination of a lotus and a debris shield.
Seeing this gives me the idea to put a similar system solidly mounted on the rear of a ship rather than missile format, leaving behind a lethal minefield for any who attempt to chase
Have you considered making it hover at say 1.2km above the target? In space, that didn't work because the forward momentum of the missile was what was providing the thrust to the projectiles, but on a planet, that's not the case.
I tried with my gravity cannon, but the projectiles get affected by the gravity too much to get a clear hit. Those projectiles never hit the target, not even once. So the same thing is probably going to happen when you do that with a Lotus system.
Having watched this back I may be being a bit hard on the results.. it's pretty efficient if given the right trajectory and as an interplanetary weapon could be pretty awesome I think. So next step, interplanetary weapons! :)
+w4stedspace How was this video posted 2 mins ago and you commented half an hour ago?
i watched the whole stream yesterday, it was awesome! keep up the good work!
+w4stedspace to be fair wasted I never saw the Lotus as a precise weapon. Its a weapon of mass destruction in does not need to be precise it just needs to take out targets in a large area.
+w4stedspace I think it would work fine as a surface-to-surface as long as it's deployed as a trans-orbital weapon. It needs to be dropping straight down onto it's target when it activates, so you just make sure it goes up into low orbit first so it can come straight down.
Interesting side effect of the bell flower cloud of doom is that the only destructive package that hits the center is the missile itself. I wonder if you could modify this concept to use to wipe out perimeter defenses, but leave the central stores intact for subsequent capture?
I'm curious... using this in survival you'd need to pack your welders with all the components needed, since it's not conveyored. Welders have a lot of storage, so that's probably still workable, I wonder how many warheads worth of components you could stuff into each one, and how effective it would be?
can you try making a quickie-bomber? basically a jet that can bomb without getting shot easily
Already had a go at this when planets came out. A friend was pissing me off by coming over to my base randomly and placing like 4 warheads around my cryo chamber. He refused to leave the planet's surface so I just positioned like 4 of my version of these things barely outside of the gravity field aimed straight at his base when he wasn't on. He jumped back on and tried to do it again and when he returned to his base he was just in time to see the last one finish making a gigantic hole where his base used to be. Death Lotus for planets is definitely a mutually assured destruction weapon when you have rules to leave each other's space "Satellites" alone... Death Lotus is very easy to wrap and make it look like its a solar farm satellite. I'd be curious to see how you'd shell one of these things for a "Gift" over your Enemies' base Wasted ;P
+Iceorama Ice nice, I was going to use these for the same thing, bombing my friend to smithereens.
+Iceorama Ice lol, sounds fun :) I am pleased to have been part of this!
Develop a version that hovers over the target at 4,000 - 8,000 meters and by adjusting the rotation you can control the spread of the warheads. This way if you attacking a massive target you can have a larger spread, and if its a more small target you can slow the rotation down, and get maximum effect on target.
Now this, this is lotus 2.0
+High Ground hehe, have been thinking similar, although I suspect it'll have a new flaw.. last time I tried having large rotating parts that changed weight like that (was a kinda lawnmover blade design for this) it pull the ship it was mounted to around all over the shop! The lawnmower was horrible to fly heh..
Will try it out though :)
How about an orbital bombardment lotus? Something that stays in orbit and rains death from the skies. Could also be reused.
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WILL BE TOO DANGEROUS!!!!!! ANY TROLL COULD EASILY FUCK WITH AN ENTIRE SERVER WITH THAT!!!!!!!!
(Gasp) Are you a Troll?
Edgardo X. Feliciano Would have to be a very wealthy troll who had invested a sizable amount of time in a server. No i am no such troll.
+Axel Black With time and patience yo CAN fuck with the server, there should be a mod that can disable certain blocks with admin commands, then I will disable decoys to give the defenders an actual chance!!!!!!!! then people will HAVE to use mod!!!!!!!
I saw your original Lotus video a long while back, and just came across this one. Congratulations on creating, advancing, and perfecting the first Space Engineers weapon of mass destruction. It's expensive but you only need to use one! Cheers.
I feel like now, with the introduction of horizontal flight, a classic horizontal bomber design that spins but only drops payload downwards and out would be superb in target destruction.
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Just wanted to say I love these videos of yours where you walk us through whatever design you've got really fun to watch
hehe, glad you are enjoying sir :)
I can imagine an orbital bombardment missile like this but with some front thrusters that delay the fall and some measure of lateral movement to bombard in a line.
Wow man that's a heck of a thing, at 9:00 min in the main body gets a direct kinetic strike on the center of the building! Cool builds for sure! Thanks for sharing!
w4sted, there is no such thing as the final lotus, as there is no such thing as enough dakka :P
Now make a ballistic missile, using the lotus system to decoy
On the down movement
This build was fucking fantastic! Oh god, this should definitely be a thing in season 2.
the warheads are doing a circle around the target, which is not very big of a problem but you are hitting ground for the most part.
my suggestion is to do more like a carpet bombing as it can go horizontally, it wont have the same effect on space but it is meant for planets as the lotus is desinged for space. Carpet bombing is more effective, covers more area so instead of digging holes on the ground you can destroy the roofs of a city. You loose firepower but you gain in everything else. rebuilding the roof of your base will be harder than dealing with some holes if you miss slightly.
Imagine a version that imparts slight thrust variations, so the warheads dispense in a pattern that isn't uniform, essentially creating a true minefield, instead of one with large gaps. Then you set a few of these to fly around an enemy base dispensing the Lotus Bombs all over the place, making it an absolute hell to get anything in or out. Think about this: You have a Titan Shipyard, a huge thing built to produce massive Behemoths. Then a few Lotus Dispensers show up and spread a bunch of mines all over the place. Suddenly this Shipyard is useless, since ships can't leave after being built, and damaged ships can't berth to repair.
I really liked that one where it dispersed its payload and then warped away, I can imagine that being in a movie or TV show. "Launch the lotus and forward thrust towards the blockade, ramming speed!" "Captain we're going to hit the enemy ships along with our Lotus bombs, we need to slow do-" "NO! Keep heading forward, full speed...Hold it Hold it" [Warning: Impact Immeninent] "Hold it, hold it....NOW WARP". That would be thrilling shit
maybe a way to deliver the payload as if it were like a bombardment in a line formation, would be to put a programmable block and make it detatch all from a side.
ie: ship rotating clockwise at constant speed, make left side detatch when horizontal. i haven't tested this but it might just work
make the right side, not left one if going clockwise. sorry for the mistake
What about 2 like this but connected to the sides of a ship?
It would work great on the end of a ship being chased
Maybe instead of having the whole craft rotate, have a central shaft that has all the welders and stuff spin inside a stationary outer ring so you can control what side they fall off of
these remind me of a type of missle I've seen in numerous Gundam series. a ship will fire a missle, then when it gets close to it's target, the side panels blow off, and a bunch of small rockets inside launch and shower the target. they are meant to be used against small nimble targets.
For planetary use you could build a standoff dispenser which flies above the target and drops bombs and maybe circles around for multiple runs, or maybe a cruise missile that builds smaller cruise missiles in-flight that are faster, resulting in a big stream of missiles.
it looks damn majestic! really cool concept. For the planetary version it does seem to hit everything around the target but the target itself though :P (but the main missile does hit pretty hard)
can you imagine the reaction of someone that sees that kind of stuff coming down.
+kadindarklord Like when you have a city on asteriod, most of it is light armour and this just does complete genocide on the city...
+kadindarklord It will give you PTSD if you survive.
+kadindarklord "Welp, there goes the neighbourhood. It's been fun."
This is the reason to store your main base very deep under ground xD
+kadindarklord my reaction: back to main menu -> yes -> want to safe progress? -> no
Here is an idea that might prove interesting... try using a similar device on a ship like a destroyer! This makes for an excellent smoke-screen of sorts that would distract the auto-aim of most turrets while also potentially damaging the enemy ship.
Awesome design w4sted, I knew of the lotus but I didn't know it was your creation. Now that I built my ultimate capital ship I simply have to make a missile launching bay to automatically launch these bad boys. Cheers
Two things.
1. Give the Lotus VI some thrusters to keep it at optimal height and rename it the Bell-flower I, and you have point bombardment sorted without decimating a ship every time.
2. If you want a carpet-bomber-like ship, try using pistons and stationary welding bays. Push decoys and warheads away from the ship using pistons, and pilot the whole shebang over the bombing area. Add underside welding bays, and you have an effective carpet-bombing ship!
here are a couple of ideas that might work on planets (don't have good enough computer to try then out myself)
1. What if you take the last ship design flip it 180 so its basically flying backwards and extend the cap out further but at an angle as close as you can get to 90 and lunch the bombs from the cap then attach an engine to the bottom of the bombs with like a second or 2 of fuel so it propels it directly away from the ship although it loses some momentum it shouldn't hurt the ship
2. Alternatively you could remove the spin and have the ship built in sections that shoot up down left and right and in between each section have a rotor to stagger each one a couple of degrees with landing gear to lock it in place and place a thruster on the bottom of each bomb to have it move directly away from the craft this will reomve the problem of not being able to guess which direction the bombs are facing when they are released and you still get the coverage of the lotus
thought: build secondary assemblies within the missile housing (yes, it'll be bigger) that use a sensor/timer setup to release finished bomblets and decoys out of the main body of the craft- this would allow a paired horizontal spread of munitions and avoid the issues cause by traveling laterally while deploying radially
I think the best planet-to-planet weapons would probably end up being atmospheric fighters/bombers, and maybe gun emplacements if you've got the right weapon mods. Lotus seems more an interplanetary ballistic F-you to me, unless you want to launch it from the planet into space, around the planet, and back down.
Basically what I'm saying here is you've built a very specialized small-scale nuke here. Personally, I think something similar as a bomber with projectors building a small warhead/decoy and thruster building and deploying from the side might work well as close(ish) range base killer, it'd definitely need some work to get going though.
Or just put a really McFreakin' big gun on a plane.
+Jurgen Ronaaz I'm thinking combo with autopilot and some timers etc to have it launch to space, jump, travel, then initiate from orbit of the target planet :)
+w4stedspace you should help me come up with a ship that can make a minefield and make it work well in mp im thinking of using something like that to pvp xocliw
Oooooh, lightspeed torpedoes... I like it! Shame you can't give it momentum from the warp jump and just shoot a near-lightspeed projectile at their planet.
I know there's a mod that makes jump drives explode dramatically when destroyed, seems useful for a warp-deployed torpedo... *evil laugh*
so like the ah... node missiles(?) from sword of the stars?
I'm no physicist but I'm pretty sure Bad Things would happen. Possibly planet-breakingly bad things.
Certainly not the sort of things the human race can survive unless the thing hitting the planet has very little mass.
Otherwise? Basically the planet would crack like an egg and possibly shatter, would be my guess. Could be wrong though.
I was in creative and my brother built a massive spaceport that was about the size of a city. I new my modified covenant supercarrier couldn’t take it out and my S.C.A.R.S were out of order. I used a custom design of the first concept and it was extremely long. It didn’t destroy the city but it damaged some buildings, broke some reactors, took down the defence grid and majorly damaged the vehicle bays
Fantastic W4sted! Always loved that thing.
3:34 - 3:46 All I can think of is; "This giant explosive thrower designed for orbital bombardment is meant to be reusable, you know, to be eco-friendly."
Maybe a Lotus with mostly upward thrust, based on sitting at the edge of space and raining bombs on a target? Essentially an orbital bombardment platform? It might make it more efficient, by introducing some survivability.
Warheads deployed fine for me when i disabled the rear thruster and dampeners. Everything falls at the same speed. I wasn't able to test re-entry at angles greater than ~44 degrees; the projectors blueprint wouldn't weld anymore at those steep angles. Ideally you could limit your spread to a single vertical line by tilting the ship 90 degrees before production of warheads.
a ground to air to ground lotus would probably consist of a carrier craft around the lotus that brings it to orbit and from there above the target at which point it gives it's last piece of power to the main missile and detatches just like the warheads, after a bit of delay the lotus then starts producing the warheads and decoys while the four booster packets fall down with the rest of the payload causing even more damage
In regards to the issue with horizontal launching, have you tried only releasing the bottom section of the lotus as it's spinning? You spin the craft at a fixed rate. This means that you can predict the moment one of the four sides is pointing directly downwards. You could then modify your timer blocks to only release the bottom (or the top and bottom, or the left and right side, to preserve centre of mass) every time it rotates to that point. This would allow you to only release at points where you know the explosives/decoys will be drifting away from the ship and won't fall back on top. One of the main problems would be consistently activating the sequence at the right point so your timing functions properly, but that could likely be solved through trial and error. Cool video, hope to see some more WMD's from you in the future!
That is just so mesmerisingly beautiful in such a horrifying way OpO
mini version of the Lotus. Small ship with some large cargo containers (or even medium), filled with explosive components; connectors on the sides, and the same rotation technique. it should make an even cheaper missile, even though less powerful.
I figure the design for a bombardment weapon could still be used in a horizontal spread if you could simply time the release to sync with the rotation of the ship so that no projectiles were being tossed upwards or being released where they would fall on top of the craft. That drives the complexity of setting it up a ton though.
The Blue Rose of Celestial Destruction, that is a great name for this version
Hmm...this "spinning" thing might work well for conventional ships as well as for this server-destroying nightmare. If you can figure out a means of keeping enough weapons fire on the target while your ship spins, you can roll damage across your armor and therefore increase the time it takes to breach it. It's like torso-twisting in Mechwarrior Online, but IN SPAAAACE!
wow, watching this i know why you were the chief engineer in the group survival, epic design you've got there :D
i guess this is best phrased "1 shoe size doesn't fit all". its great at what it can do but cant do everything. I dont see how you can make it go horizontal without radically changing the design, in which case it will be something completely different.
+Uncharted Cath lol, thanks mate :) yeah, I agree with that analogy.. thus time to move on and find something that's more suited to the challenges of planets given I'm pretty happy with how the Lotus performs in space and from orbit! Now for in-atmo weapons!
+w4stedspace I have a suggestion for a planetary version of the lotus. Why make the whole body crash down on the planet? Part the lotus above your target just inside the gravity well right at the .05 mark of the gravity and inside just enough so your warheads are already falling if only at a slow pace. Have all of the warheads and decoys deployed at the bottom facing the planet and of course you would still need to rotate but have some that just drop strait down some that drop at a slight angle. to try and cover those areas at the center of the bombardment. I am not the best at explaining what i mean but maby you will be inspired or can at least make since of it lol.
The way you fix not being able to have horizontal motion is just have primary stage which launches and gets the missile aligned with the ground, and that stage when breaking off is actually going to become their own fragments and the rest is the original version
Could always play around with the autopilot mechanics, program it sort of like an ICBM, shoot it straight up, get out of gravity, turn, fly to a secondary point directly above the target, turn and fire straight downwards. The design is more MIRV afterall. If you want a direct flight in atmosphere weapon, the cruise missile path might be the better choice, or perhaps your standard carpet bomber, just have it produce the warheads and drop as it flies over the target, bit less spread, but more accurate, and no spin.
Seeing these things coming at you with that barrage they have created would be horrifying.
On the server me and my friends played on we used a similar system only in place of a missile the main body was a satellite. Spinning out rocks until the maximum radius of a gravity generator. Activate and they would rain down on a target fairly well.
I've never tried this and it probably doesn't work but I'd think it would be cool if you had some sort of structure on an asteroid and was able to use thrusters/ mods to either remotely target or pilot it down to something on a planet's surface. While space engineers physics will probably have that cause less damage than it should it'd be effective in the sense that the enemy now has a gigantic rock sitting on top of their base and with how you can adjust the size of ones you create or you can just find a massive one. If you can't move asteroids like that already someone needs to make a mod.
I like that last Lotus design, it should be dubbed "Harpoon Lotus"
Have you considered/attempted a carpet bomber? Fly high and horizontal over the base, projector-weld-grind on the bottom and drop massive amounts of ordnance onto the target. Imprecise but effective at area denial and large-scale bombing. I haven't the technical knowhow to do that but I would be interested to see it happen.
+StitchPlay it wouldnt be a lotus
it would be a carpet bomber
+SSj3_God _goku unless you carpet bomb lotuses. ;)
+StitchPlay I always thought of this weapon as a carpet bomb-type weapon.
A precision weapon shouldn't leave a crater that can be seen from orbit.
+Were Chicken I didn't mean in the Lotus-series, I meant just a whole other type of weapon. Something that travels along a horizontal vector dropping bombs as it goes a la B52.
You lookging for something like the [WIP] insomnia bomber, but with merge block detaching heavy blocks instead
You could use it to carpet-bomb extremely large areas, though - you just have to spin up and deploy the field before you enter the planet's gravity.
Why am i just now getting this video in my feed? Also nice missiles
The problem with the bell shape is that most of the projectiles are concentrated at the edge of the area-of-effect. As we could see in the video the biggest source of damage to the target actually seemed to be the missile itself. Other than that it mostly dug a moat around the base :D
Maybe it could slow the rotation speed over time to ensure an even distribution
+tetrapack24 It was a fairly small target to be fair :) I don't really build bases so didn't have much in my library to call on as a decent thing to hit!
You could make that main rocket come back with a sensor at the front. It would detect ground (I think there is an "only detect ground" option in the terminal), stopt the warhead production and start slowing down until it leaves the warhead bell behind and returns to where you had launched it.
I think vertical deployment makes more sense overall anyway, but to solve the problems with horizontal you just need a few timer blocks to time the drops from the bottom half of the craft. or faster rotation to fling the projectile away faster.
Parachutes would help with the horizontal attacks, you could put them on the missile so it can do a mortar type strike by flying up at an angle, the. Cutting engines and deploying parachutes. Or put them on each “petal.” I think putting them on the main body would work better to kill horizontal momentum before the bomb/petals separate, because you can use less parachutes that way.
Hey, nice to see the old Death Lotus again. Too bad about the weirdness with gravity, although honestly if you're firing it at a base, it's probably a good idea to do it from space anyway. I definitely see it as more of an orbital bombardment weapon than an ICBM-alike.
Although that gives me a possible idea: If gyroscopes can be used to determine orientation via programmable blocks you could fire it, have it gain a bunch of altitude, then come straight down at the target (GPS-guided maybe,) and once it's aligned and falling it can kick-start projectile production. Alternatively you could do a variation on the Lotus that just carpet-bombs the area, only kicking out projectiles on the bottom. Either way, I feel like precision-bombing on planets is going to be a tough problem to crack.
Anyway, the new Lotus upgrade looks shiny. That base at the end was just wrecked all to hell. ;)
+Steve Pittman I think you're correct and would be pretty neat, sadly I'm just also pretty sure that's gonna require more programming knowledge than I have to actually pull off :(
***** Yeah, same here, I never got around to digging into the scripting stuff inside SE. Ah well, there's still loads of cool stuff that doesn't require super-complicated programming solutions to be built.
I quite like the names Blue Sky Death Lotus, or even Night Shade Death Lotus. Blue Sky Death Lotus because it is blue and falls from the sky (simple name for a simple device). Night Shade Death Lotus because of the bell shaped final payload deployment, and the fact that it is dropping down on the target. Or even differentiate between space and planet versions of the lotus by calling the space ones death lotus' and the planet ones night shades.
You could call it the "Bluebell", named for it's colour and spread pattern, whilst also in keeping with the flower naming theme.
+Lt.David Pulsar I said that on the Friday night stream
+Paul Kember good job then.
+Hans Schuster Foxglove was the name I was trying to think of when I was recording! n1
It still looks ridiculous. I love it!
Blue Sky Device has got to be the best possible name for that
Shit, these are the things that blasted the hell out of the planets in the triad server, there's literally a planet with half of its surface completely obliterated due to the sheer amount of these things fired at it. Its space engineers first true WMD
It might've been addressed already, and it might detract from the spirit of the Lotus design, but you could keep the whole horizontal motion going and refactor it into a carpet bomb sort of idea instead? Cut the rotation, and have it drop the bomb clusters from three directions (straight down, port and starboard, with the top of the ship not ejecting anything) so you'd still get some spread from the bombs coming off the sides as well as dropping down. But that's more of a carpet bomber and less of a blooming, flying 'fuck you' that this BEAUTIFUL vessel concept seems to be.
idea: detach the thruster when the smaller bombs launch, that way it will all hit the target at once
My hat is your. I just start and learning the commands and keys what is what and how is how. Seeing your videos and from the team helps but I have to go pass that in order to join the actual game itself. Super impressive designs I build a ship and it was a challenge
This is absolutely terrifying.
The Deathbell. A flower that blooms downwards.
you could make a lotus that attempts to stay stationary above an area and just flings out warheads then just slowly move around so the impact site moves too
I'd just forget warheads and use gravity to make solid objects do damage. Build and separate large amounts of single merge blocks. Use a thruster to resist gravity, but not to stop the missile completely. Then when you run out of cargo contents turn the thrusters off.
I like your concept as I have recently developed a space working kinetic torpedo with warhead, you could maybe also try a barrel like thing that deploys all the stuff in the same direction
I like to imagine Wasted as some famous, Tony Stark-esque weapon inventor in the Space Engineers universe, just building insane weapons and selling them for a profit.
I think against planets, rock chunks works the best if you are in outer space and want to bombard it. So you build a ship, that has connectors on it's side, and fill them with rocks. It will emitt 1000kg chunks, and if you have gravity generators facing to the right direction, it can shoot out the rocks faster than you can fly with ships. The only problem with this that to achieve high speed, you have to use more than one gravity generators. But maybe with a spherical, you can make a rock-lotus? :D
That method maybe can be used to cover your ship so you can stalk, or can make a physical rock armor around your boat. Unfortunately, since planets really arrived, the game gets sloppy for me, so i can't play this until i upgrade my rig, thanks to the game engine, so i cannot try it out. Maybe this should be a next video? :D
Already have a similar platform, dropping stones from above 3km. Planet gravity alone cause the rocks to do substantial damage.
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Man After that strike would be a great time to launch another assault, but close to the surface with fighter etc, because all the turrets are shooting decoys
maybe some kind of capital ship launching these things. another idea might be to use the lotus setup to spawn a turret field of sorts. maybe rework a version of it into a sort of revolver or rotating drop rack assembly, like what you might see in a b 52 or something for carpet bombing.
the left over decoys are good to keep left over turrets distracted for an attack
thats an impressive lotus design. Its given me an idea for a carpet bomber though. Maybe releases pods that start spinning and deploying bombs like that.
Can a printed blueprint keep any settings like timers to start engines and such?
Make a lotus bomber. Wide based, and drops the mark 1 projectiles as it flies above, creating an efficient spread of missiles using gravity to cause them to fall and its bottom to disperse them. Kind of like a fleet of stealth bombers
Could you make a planetary bomber with the same concept? I'm thinking a stable ship platform with pylons hanging below it rotating vertically. You could potentially sit over a target and release bombs continuously. Something with the pylon running horizontally the length of the ship might also work, but would require more sensors or timers to have them only release on the bottom. It also wouldn't be as random.
if you put enough thrust on it to escape gravaty (or hover high altitude) and some to move around. it should work stationary in the grav field of the planet.
Have you seen Ionstorm and Firestorm missiles? You could use that system and first send it from ground to the orbit and than turn it down to the target.
ICBM style?
Could you make this as a defense? The spinning theory could be used to create an immediate minefield in seconds or just obstacles in space in preparation for an attack. It may also be able to draw fire as decoys.
Used this as inspiration and annihilated my friend's base. Nothing is left but a big hole. Thanks.
idea for presicion strikes: pump warheads out the back and ditch spinning. thud, boom, boom, boom, ect
I wonder if you used a spherical gravity generator if it would push the projectiles away from the ship and shield it from them falling back onto it. You could have one eject loads of rock instead of welding explosives as well.
i also noticed that you can cut enemy supply paths because you pratically make a moat around whatever you didnt blow to hell so there 1 more use.
for all who have seen Chronicles of Riddik doesn't the last lotus we see remind u of the giant statue that the Necromongers deployed on the planet. also what if u deploy the bombs closer to the surface causing less spread and less horizontal motion because the main warhead can adjust its course to hit closer 2 its target
I know I'm not the first one to have this thought but the minefields you could lay!
w4stded I would love to see you try some sort of high speed heavy/strategic bomber. Using projectors you could try and go for a carpet bombing technique I think. Plus since it would only drop warheads out of the bottom if would solve the issues the lotus has with flying horizontal.
what about two arms rotating around the core of the ship, using a gravity generator that switches from +.5 to -.5? That would allow the lotus bits to stay relatively close to the center of the missile and lay waste to a specific area.
you could set up a 4 button system that you press to launch the explosives on the bottom and as it spins to give of a catapult effect
There is a lot of unexploded ordinance in the last shot. Maybe add a timer block to detonate the warhead if it survives longer than X seconds?
I made a gravity cannon for high orbit bombardment, but no matter how much I made those rocks spread they always missed because of the gravity well effected them too much. So now I just use chemrails.
You have to use much larger rocks for it to be effective, but even then it will still spread out a little.
I think about the only evolution you can make to translate this concept to planets is some sort of carpet bomber. I'd use some cameras on rotors to rig up some sort of angled bomb sights adjusted for a specific altitudes. The main problem with flying horizontally in a gravity field in SE is that eventually gravity will cause the down direction to max out at 104 m/s and kill all forward motion of the projectiles. The only way to keep the concept even remotely similar in scope of the bombardment would be to have belly/side hard points and forward thrusting warheads/decoys to keep them somewhat on course. In all reality I think I'd rather drop a few of these from obit straight down in a wave than deal with the inaccuracy of dealing with the extra force of gravity pulling warheads away from their line of travel. If the videos I've seen recently of high altitude ore bombardment shows that it's effective again then some connectors ejecting ore might be worth doing.
Imagine this being what all the targets on the screen at the finale of the group survival
Here's a good name " Maelstrom Kinetic Bombardment Cluster Munitions Delivery Vehicle or Maelstrom Kinetic Bombardment CMDV or if you want it shorter the Maelstrom KBCMDV
Still an overall solid concept, but the problem is that I think warheads now require power, and there's also the cleanup script to factor in, which removes anything unpowered after a certain distance from a player.