notail is the mj of dota and puppey is the lebron of dota. I would consider Miracle more of Wilt chamberlain dominant player in their prime but Notail is more of a champion undefeated in the finals 2-0 ti finals 5 majors champ too can win as a carry and support too.
@@reveirg9 totally agree... his Tiny with brown boot and bottle made play more than most pos 4 in TI9. Yapzor is a great pos 4 but he underperformed during TI9 (when it matter).
In terms of pure skill, I would say Miracle In terms of versatility, I say Midone In terms of mechanical skill and knowledge of the game, Arteezy For supports, definitely fy, arguably the best one in the world.
@@lyonvensa he always has been, just couldn't make much of an appearance before because hus original team broke up and hus current team couldn't make their quota
@@nandadevanugrahaa dafuck are you talking about? ana's plays at ti8 is one of the best. also you do know that ana is considered the best player by the chinese community right? they dropped the letter.
ANA for sure..OG's weak when he came back they go beast again. After T.I when he left OG's weak again. Then during his comeback specially T.I OG's stronger than ever again.. and he is on vacation for months still a beast
Because the video discussed about the most individual skilled players. OG might not have the best players but each one of them compliments their gameplay which boosts the skill as a team. And to add the fact that they have the best chemistry as well, the five of them are really good friends. So duh, even if you put the top 5 best players in one team, if their gameplay doesnt compliment with each other than of course they would lose to OG
og players are far from being the best. they are just relAXED cause they have been shit all year and go to TI without expectations. while other top teams went from event to event winning and draining themselfs .. just to go to TI with little to no energy and huge pressure on their backs being top of the dpc season..
@@jackmehoff4429 keep telling yourself that. lgd won nothing during season and they were still favourites. this proves that other tournaments are bs compared to TI the one and only coveted championship where u actually become the best in the world. not best in the world cos some 2k scrubs say so.
All these player are really versatile player !! Best Space Creator Mid Player - MidOne Best Solid Laning Mid Player - NoOne Best Hyper Technical Mid Player - Miracle Best Mechanical and Agressive Mid Player - Sumail Best Tactitcal Mid Player - Abed Best Decision Making Mid Player - Ana
@@zohaibarshed4827 3 hero pool are you pertaining to w33.haa? topson has more hero pool than w33.haa which, take note, he can play well. Heroes like Troll Warlord, Tide hunter, Pugna, Zeus, Invoker, monkey king, tiny arc warden belongs to Topson's hero pool which he played really well plus he's not afraid to use heroes that doesn't belong to his pool defending on his team's need, for example mid bristle back and mid earth spirit. Now tell me, do some mid players do what he's doing?
Imo this is between flashy superstar mid players and godlike position 4 playmakers. So in my mind the most mechanically talented players might be Sumail, Somnus, Noone, fy, Jerax, Crit and Yapzor... While the best overall player of the last year might be zai. I would also mention iceiceice, the player who is in the scene since forever and always was able to deliver some magical plays and has unique skillset.
if talking about individual talents, for me Sumail should come as the number one. while the second place maybe a tie between NoOne, MidOne, and Somnus. three of them are so fucking great in therms of individual skills. also of course some honorable mentions to Miracle, Paparazzi, and Rtz, but of course they are below them
i was thinking the same. Jerax is the most underrated player.he is so versatile too. he could probably defeat miracle, midone or sumail in a 1v1 all random. the best player in the world.
@@jm-pj3ul Dendi is the face of DotA. I dont think there is anyone else that is more popular than he is. But mechanically now he is not that good as compared to other players like Midone or Sumail
Hmm reminds me of how they used to say coldzera best CS player, and after his support left he started getting destroyed, I think Ana is the best player in the world because of how good OG is as a team.. Best player in the world is OG lol OG is just phenomenal
@@pgf2940 Relax, its just these other players are in the game for far too long now. Ana is godlike but still needs experience and time until he can be called the best.
Individually (dream team that never work) -mid(papparazi) -safe(rtz) -off(iceiceice) -pos4(jerax) -pos5(puppey) Team-wise (best team could happen) -mid(midone) -safe(ana) -off(mind control) -pos4(yapzor) -pos5(notail)
i still remember the times when he was emotion as hell. but now i think hes defeated his own demons by now, or if not hes holding them in place quite good. after his break, he came back as a monster so i guess his breaks helped his mental welfare
Most talented players om every pos 5-xnova 4-saksa 3-ceb 2-sumail 1-shadow (probably many would argue with this but for me he is definitely the most talented I watched)
If you are a avid fan of dota and good observer IC3 ICE ICE is the best Solo player :) 200+ IQ and Good Decision Making Skills :) Sad he cannot find a good team for him :(
Lmao nice joke man you made me laugh so hard. Best player always loses offlane and btw you cant say its 1v2 offlane coz the meta now is 2v2 on offlane and safelane. But he always loses the lane if that is what you call best solo skilled player then its a good joke mate
Best support in the world is fy, then jerax. Best carry is Ana guys just fucking accept it. During ti, he's the only carry from top 4 teams that was in top 5 gpm AND kills. He's a fucking beast
@Rahul Biswas I honestly can't tell if you are serious or not but I think it's amazing that winning back to back TIs is apparently "luck" to you. Like, I could understand if it was one TI, you know, a surprising and unexpected run, but back to back, especially the dominant second TI win? That's not luck.
Who does your vote go to?
me, i have a killer nyx
Arteezy
@@n0brain979 I heard he is still farming in the jungle to this day.
dendi and miracle : Faces of dota 2
Jerax
Fy! - no net worth, no farm, often turn fights, find pick up and win from impossible positions.
Fly and s4. The greatest decision makers of dota2 history. If eg wants to win ti back to back, fly and s4 know the drill.
very underrated comment 😂😂
Savage comment
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA wp bro
they could have done it before but they put their TI winner carry Fear on to support role and put a cuRTZed in their team LOL
Lol. Hopefully they read that
The Midone comment aged very well
fy the kind of support that you always have to fear
for me it's jerax
jerax, gh
Jerax gh DJ times Fy
Fy, yapzor definitely s+
Lanm,crit, gh, tims, jerax s
Good position 4s are fucking scary.
Honestly from my opinion
Talented : Sumail/Ame/Ana
Versatile : Midone /Miracle/Somnus
Individual skill :Ana/Paparazi/ Ramzees
Growing talent : Nisha/Nikobaby/Weeha
Overall : Ana/Somnus/Miracle
You should add Zai to versatile, the dude plays literally every hero as pos 3 in official matches, its insane
W33 growing talent? 😂 Guess you're new
hmmm, w33haa growing talent? 🤔
Versatile: ana just picked an IO carry and change from mid to carry player. How's that versatility for you?
weeha before this at secret and after that his performance fall down..now come back stupid..u still new in Dota
Miracle is like the MJ of Dota.
Jordan or jackson?
@@shobahtyusupov221 Ahaha. Any of them will do.😁
@@shobahtyusupov221 mary jane
notail is the mj of dota and puppey is the lebron of dota. I would consider Miracle more of Wilt chamberlain dominant player in their prime but Notail is more of a champion undefeated in the finals 2-0 ti finals 5 majors champ too can win as a carry and support too.
SCCC is pretty talented. From nothing to top 5 mmr in China in under 1 year. Extremely dominant in many top tournament performances.
i love ana, topson and miracle..but yapz0r low key the real carry in secret despite his role
topson not that player he is strong with his team
Yapzor takes a lot of farm as a pos4. I would say Jerax over Yapzor. Jerax performs damn well even without farm.
@@reveirg9 totally agree... his Tiny with brown boot and bottle made play more than most pos 4 in TI9. Yapzor is a great pos 4 but he underperformed during TI9 (when it matter).
yes topson especially now. he even improve compared last year
This ages like a fine wine
3 years from this, and midone is nowhere to be seen..
life is unpredictable .
and also Miracle
@@clarencelopez1696 he is still good. Its just that he is still with Nigma.
miracle still pop up despite being inactive. midone tho people forgot about him already lol
In terms of pure skill, I would say Miracle
In terms of versatility, I say Midone
In terms of mechanical skill and knowledge of the game, Arteezy
For supports, definitely fy, arguably the best one in the world.
fy is amazing
lul, puppey
tims
@@tomoyakun9294 This is two years ago, but yeah, tims is up there now, alongside the likes of XinQ.
@@lyonvensa he always has been, just couldn't make much of an appearance before because hus original team broke up and hus current team couldn't make their quota
bottomline: divine players is already categorized as talented players
Pretty much agree with everything ppd said. Somnus (Maybe) is a fucking beast of a player. The execution is simply on another level.
Edit: Typo
And he lost to pub player(godson) sad beast
That depends, are you Chinese?
Lol no.
Hell nah
thats why he choke in every ti huh
I like how none of them mentioned any OG players LUL.
Inder well they play as a team not an individual,
Inder OG takes the game for having fun and teamwork, not individual mechanism or space maker
@@nandadevanugrahaa dafuck are you talking about? ana's plays at ti8 is one of the best. also you do know that ana is considered the best player by the chinese community right? they dropped the letter.
Go check old matches where your boy ana plays mid and gets destroyed xd.
@@nauman.ashraf. ohhh you want to go there? how is that no different than miracles balkban bear days?
Ana and Godson are beasts this whole tournament
Ah the good old times when Midone wasn't a meme...not surprising that OG continue to stick with him. See the respect hes getting here!
Bro his playstyle is way better for mid then carry
sad we dont see him 2023.
He made it to TI this year 🥳.
1:36 miracle's pretty good hahaha
said after like puking 🥺🥺
Huh?
Stephen Hawking @ 1:10
Lol haha
midone name is more sound i see..proud of u midone..malaysian pride
ANA for sure..OG's weak when he came back they go beast again. After T.I when he left OG's weak again. Then during his comeback specially T.I OG's stronger than ever again.. and he is on vacation for months still a beast
@Sleehehe Qweqwe Ana is low key the beast of Dota 2, the guy likes to take vacations then comeback stronger.
@Rahul Biswas lol, salty dumbass. OG will go down as the greatest DOTA 2 team in history whether you like it or not.
Rahul Biswas learn english? You dumb fuck can’t even spell “trash” lol and go learn some grammar you dumb fuck
this aged well
Safe Ana, playing only Ti‘s and Winning everything he Played at
he lost a ti before
Miracle is the best 👊👊👊 some players cant even say it because they hate his guts but we all know who is the best carry to watch.
feels good to see quinn as the best mid in the world
Miracle is the best skilled player in dota 2 history.
Lol overrated trash
You watch too mucu UA-cam
@@yillianjay1615 even some pro player said miracle is a good player, don't need to be rude if you can't play as good as him tho
@@vins7011 xD too much UA-cam kid
@@yillianjay1615 ok? Then why don't you tell the specific reason he's trash?
u can put all the above mentioned players in a team and they still won't beat OG.
Because the video discussed about the most individual skilled players. OG might not have the best players but each one of them compliments their gameplay which boosts the skill as a team. And to add the fact that they have the best chemistry as well, the five of them are really good friends. So duh, even if you put the top 5 best players in one team, if their gameplay doesnt compliment with each other than of course they would lose to OG
og players are far from being the best. they are just relAXED cause they have been shit all year and go to TI without expectations. while other top teams went from event to event winning and draining themselfs .. just to go to TI with little to no energy and huge pressure on their backs being top of the dpc season..
@@lagpc2952 thanks for giving the longer version of my comment.
@@jackmehoff4429 keep telling yourself that. lgd won nothing during season and they were still favourites. this proves that other tournaments are bs compared to TI the one and only coveted championship where u actually become the best in the world. not best in the world cos some 2k scrubs say so.
@@sieghart7889 u keep telling urself that winning TI makes u the best.
All these player are really versatile player !!
Best Space Creator Mid Player - MidOne
Best Solid Laning Mid Player - NoOne
Best Hyper Technical Mid Player - Miracle
Best Mechanical and Agressive Mid Player - Sumail
Best Tactitcal Mid Player - Abed
Best Decision Making Mid Player - Ana
talent = topson he doesn't need much farm to play unlike other midlaner who needs space to play well. somnus as well and jerax
3 hero pool dogson LUL
@@zohaibarshed4827 noob dumbass ahahahaha 2k scrub' your trying to mock the teo time TI winner? Noob as fuck
@@zohaibarshed4827 4 now.. lul
@@zohaibarshed4827 3 hero pool are you pertaining to w33.haa? topson has more hero pool than w33.haa which, take note, he can play well. Heroes like Troll Warlord, Tide hunter, Pugna, Zeus, Invoker, monkey king, tiny arc warden belongs to Topson's hero pool which he played really well plus he's not afraid to use heroes that doesn't belong to his pool defending on his team's need, for example mid bristle back and mid earth spirit. Now tell me, do some mid players do what he's doing?
@@BanjoRisay incomprehensible.
mid: miracle
safelane: ana
offlane: iceiceice
support: fy
hard support: puppey
boi u gonna make TI looks like saitama vs sonic
Imo this is between flashy superstar mid players and godlike position 4 playmakers. So in my mind the most mechanically talented players might be Sumail, Somnus, Noone, fy, Jerax, Crit and Yapzor... While the best overall player of the last year might be zai. I would also mention iceiceice, the player who is in the scene since forever and always was able to deliver some magical plays and has unique skillset.
Came back to this video 3 years later...the difference in Quinn is *CRAZY*
The most answers aside from midone is miracle and sumail and its really scary to think that its likely that they'll be on the same team
How is it likely ? From all the leaks and rumors i have not heard anything implying sumail and miracle on same roster
U have been heard after 2 years :)
HEY MAN! THEY ARE NOW ON THE SAME TEAM HAHAHA!
@@antinoob3501 they are washed up rn though wish it happen sooner during their prime
@@mcmenterprise5240 now i present to you the emperor (washed up) xu mail. A single person recked 1 server to its core.
midone is a beast in mid , sacrificial carry still can rape enemy
omg, Saksa is so tall
his 6.8 bruv
if talking about individual talents, for me Sumail should come as the number one. while the second place maybe a tie between NoOne, MidOne, and Somnus. three of them are so fucking great in therms of individual skills. also of course some honorable mentions to Miracle, Paparazzi, and Rtz, but of course they are below them
i dont get why there is no fy in here.
fy and ana should definitely be in the list
and jerax too
YES
Where's Ana?
Some players said that miracle is best player and i agree with it
"Arteezy The Farmer"
Now miracle and sumail is in 1 team.
Why does no1 say Jerax, the guy is insane his rotations are out of this world and he pretty much secures every lane with his rotations.
i was thinking the same. Jerax is the most underrated player.he is so versatile too. he could probably defeat miracle, midone or sumail in a 1v1 all random. the best player in the world.
Jerax and fy
Topson
Seems like ppd hates sumail LUL
If before, it would be the legends like Dendi and Miracle
If now, Sumail, Topson, and Ana
dendi? lol other than pudge fountain hook bug name a game where he carries the team like midone,noone,miracle,sumail,somnus did?
@@jm-pj3ul you're right that's the only reason he got relevant because of the pudge bug and the useless trash talk.
Guess you guys didn't watched Dendi highlights. Poor kids never experienced the hype plays Dendi showed and made Dota of what it is today.
@@jm-pj3ul Dendi is the face of DotA. I dont think there is anyone else that is more popular than he is. But mechanically now he is not that good as compared to other players like Midone or Sumail
@@valizawesome796 face of dota? he was only popular because of hook bug. if it wasnt fot it he was nothing special literaly.
Jerax probably have the best in-game senses.
Paparazzi is still the undefeated 1 v 1 champion 👏
Mandish Gurung yaphets eat him for breakfast
@@yoelrenarky9044 But yaphets is nowhere to be found 🤣 his days are gone
@@yoelrenarky9044 he beat yaphets on 1v1 match as sf
Hmm reminds me of how they used to say coldzera best CS player, and after his support left he started getting destroyed, I think Ana is the best player in the world because of how good OG is as a team.. Best player in the world is OG lol OG is just phenomenal
midone is washout already.
Midone need to play midlaner again, his pos1 is not that good.
Dendi of course!
rip AGENT M guess he was good once...
Not a single person mentioned Ana????
None because they dont see ana or considered him as a threat alone. Og is best as a team. But there are players who is better individually.
@@josephdomingo8908 lol? watch ti8 at ana's perspective and comeback.
@@pgf2940 Relax, its just these other players are in the game for far too long now. Ana is godlike but still needs experience and time until he can be called the best.
Seriously no one mentioned the GOAT = Vigoss
LMAO , ppd says noone everytime because he always loses vs VP
Also sounds like he scrims a lot vs them. But yeah No.one and sumail is up there in just terms of raw mechanical skills.
without noone. vp is a tier 3 or 4
No one is a beast fyi miracle dont want mid if vp is the opponent
@@miyaw123 NOT REALLY...
@@miyaw123 nah without ramzee and pasha, vp with noone looks like a tier 3 team
no ana wtf??
Rare footage of s4 talking
Nobody said ANA😂 so funny
A bit over 18 months and I would say there answers have all changed, it was just before ti9.
Definetly Ana
All OG player is team oriented... not individiual... look the title man... you can read it
Man, i miss midone mid
Individually (dream team that never work)
-mid(papparazi)
-safe(rtz)
-off(iceiceice)
-pos4(jerax)
-pos5(puppey)
Team-wise (best team could happen)
-mid(midone)
-safe(ana)
-off(mind control)
-pos4(yapzor)
-pos5(notail)
This aged so poorly. Midone isnt even in ti qualifiers etc. Lol
Miracle, Ana, "Gh.GOD because he's God" - quote by vp.noone XD, and Jerax.
Ofc it's mastah singsong
Artour "PVE" Babaev our boy
Tims: *smirk*
who came here after ti9 ends? so answer it below guys, ill start it with jerax his beast on his position
Ana, God Of Dota2
Sumaillll
MidOne this guy is just a beast playing mid
Ana. His skill is decent and his mind is very very calm. I root for ana, i lke people who has cold head
i still remember the times when he was emotion as hell. but now i think hes defeated his own demons by now, or if not hes holding them in place quite good. after his break, he came back as a monster so i guess his breaks helped his mental welfare
He's too calm people training he decide to watch Gordon Ramsay video instead and proceed to trash the enemy team.
Jerax or Yapzor
Ana?
Miracles pretty good. Huh.
Most talented players om every pos
5-xnova
4-saksa
3-ceb
2-sumail
1-shadow (probably many would argue with this but for me he is definitely the most talented I watched)
No miracle? Lmfao joke list
Fy constantly creates ganks by himself I go with fy
Support player appreciation with individual skills:
Notail, Yapzor, Fy, Rodjer, Crit, GH, Universe, LanM, Tims
take notail and add jerax
Most pos4 are talented but they were overshadowed by the flashy players like most carry or mid players
@@joshuab8887 individual skill. not teamwork skill.. do u watch the video???
@@brurjorecreh5683 u dont get it
put jerax and ceb too
Pos1 or pos2 is the most valuable player ? Why not other positions? A carry is as good as their supports
Pos 1 and pos 2 is super key to win the game
Yo saksa is tall af
If you are a avid fan of dota and good observer
IC3 ICE ICE is the best Solo player :)
200+ IQ and Good Decision Making Skills :) Sad he cannot find a good team for him :(
Lmao nice joke man you made me laugh so hard. Best player always loses offlane and btw you cant say its 1v2 offlane coz the meta now is 2v2 on offlane and safelane. But he always loses the lane if that is what you call best solo skilled player then its a good joke mate
Best support in the world is fy, then jerax. Best carry is Ana guys just fucking accept it. During ti, he's the only carry from top 4 teams that was in top 5 gpm AND kills. He's a fucking beast
how come noone mentions singsing
we want this back,
sumail might be the best in terms of individual skill
Definitely one of the players from og since they won ti twice maybe topson? ana? or maybe jerax for supp
Heard about ana?
its gotta be Somnus or MidOne..
had a chuckle when Tims picked Miracle
Did you even watch TI? Hahaha
@@AdrianChia531 Why wouldnt I?
no one said ana?
Is battle is between Sumail, Midone and Miracle 🤣
Ana is so underrated haha
Man they say individual player
@Rahul Biswas But Ana carry the team by io and ember spirit.just luck? I don't understand.
@Rahul Biswas I honestly can't tell if you are serious or not but I think it's amazing that winning back to back TIs is apparently "luck" to you. Like, I could understand if it was one TI, you know, a surprising and unexpected run, but back to back, especially the dominant second TI win? That's not luck.
u guys picking AGeNt M?
MC crumble under pressure lul
Ccnc answer represents me perfectly but i put ccnc with those players
Jerax or Notail.
CCnC/Quinn looks like Stephen Hawking
Asking the real questoins.
They did not mention supports
Base on pos
Pos5 puppey
Pos4 yapzor/gh/fy
Pos3 ceb/mindcontrol
Pos2 maybe/noone/sumail
Pos1 miracle/paparazzi/ana
puppey
jerax
zai
sumail
miracle
I don’t know Midone is great, but he disappeared after team secret and did not show nothing.
I think Miracle, Ame, Xinq, Somnus, Sumail.
Did s4 said “when i think of anathan?”
*talented
so glad no one mentioned pubmaster ABED.
I would say sumail,mind control and arteezy.
wow, only PPD mentioned Maybe :O
he is underrated bro maybe in chinesse he is top 10/5 players
Pielidie said somnus too
Ana??
Midone is insanely good
No love for Abed?
He's the most skilled player in pub games, but in pro scene it's quite different... He still need to prove himself like Topson did
Abed ? Rtz is way better than that pignoy idiot
@@lurdevanbowl6608 oh the farmer rtz?
@@lurdevanbowl6608 so much hate from indogs 😂