@@Colin7768 you sure you dont need speedflip even in 1s ? my friend told me it's super easy to learn and they became super hard to counter in 1s I still feel like i should learn it
As someone who typically watches strictly for the strategy/gameplay this is a really good idea for Rocket League content. You guys are having fun and it's fun to watch. Also cool that you guys are staggering the videos on your two channels. It's just good all around. It might be cool to see you guys warmup for a few minutes in freeplay to get synced up. Or highlights of a warmup.
I love the honesty about it all as well. Taking on the challenge, no fucking around or training beforehand, just straight into it and uploading the results whether good or bad. I love shit like this.
Yeah dude, the losses make it very entertaining. Love Appjack and Retals but I do like to see pros suffer against diamonds lol. I'll be patiently waiting for the next iteration of #2pros1car. @@T3n50r
This is straight fun ! I'm also glad it allows 2 pros to realize the state ranks are at in this game at the moment. Yes these players are not smurfs, but there are so many GCs from D2 to C3 that almost no new player will have the courage to go through it. 2s is the same, GC tags all over the place from C1 to C3, former GCs got reset and are now stuck in elo hell, creating a wall that is so tough to climb for newer players.
I completely agree with this, I’ve been gc since season 5 and took a year long break, I used to be gc in 1s and now I can’t get out of c1 and c2 because every game I play is against high gcs
This is hilarious. Finally feels like two pros know what we are going through when having bad mechanics (of course they know this but still it feels oddly sattisfying). Will be fun to see where this series will lead us.
I’m telling you. Directional air roll in order to speed flip. It fixes your timing problem since you can hold it while boosting and steering without it interfering.
I play on controller and also only speed flip with DAR. Just front flip and then hold the stick straight down while holding DAR. It's an instant speed flip. But surely Retals & Appjack don't need speed flips and should focus on other stuff first
Front flip cancel, huh? All the tutorials say it needs to be a diagonal flip cancel. I still have no idea if I can speedflip or not. Sometimes it's fast. Sometimes it's pure trash.@@peterjackoville4272
me personally I only have DAR binded because I find it easier to use and doesn t interfere with any of my controls as free air roll does. As a kbm player DAR is my go to and speedflips are easy with it
I love this series guys! I think it would be really helpful if you out the episode number in the thumbnail so it would be easier to track the series, if you can’t watch it immediately each time an episode comes out
The rollercoaster of emotions in these videos with every goal is so jokes! If they score it’s SSL and if they concede the dream is over 😂 honestly I’m here for it
im excited for them to come back i think the obvious reason they struggled was that they recorded so many episodes on the same day it wears your brain out
I love this series for two reasons. (1) You guys now understand our pain as intermediate players. (2) You guys show us that it is still possible to win against these guys with weak mechanics. Somehow you guys are finding ways to win with even worse mechanics than me. (Like I can defend an air dribble) So thank you guys for doing this series and keep doing it!
It must be hard for you pros to lose full stop. Let alone by diamond 1 players. Please don't lose heart as this series is absolutely amazing (As long as it's not actually affecting you, cuz retals looks deflated )
22:07 "Kickoffs" says Retals with a British accent lol. Happens when you hear the accent around you all the time, and you don't even realize that you're doing it
Thx a lot for this series which is not only very entertaining, but also has given me a better understanding in the game. I started last year with rl as I was in search for games without any cheaters and play 90% 1s, primary as a way to be less annoying for my teammates as I don´t really have any mechs apart from hook shots (sniper..not) and sometimes a half flip. I got to diamond 1 quite fast but then there where so many "monsters" that it was frustrating, especially since I assumed that many of them are just degenerated smurfs which are in a way also cheaters. Understanding that many players just almost never play ones and they are not smurfs (in many cases) but could become just teachers helps my motivation to play. I also think kickoffs are the most important thing to rank higher as more than 50% even in d1 are doing it.
Hard but true. My 1s matches in plat 3 up to diamond 1 are so sweaty. Air dribble bumb becomes common and now I can clean half field air dribble bumbs with only 50 boost
Could you somehow give Jack W+S, along with DAR on the mouse (on a mouse with lots of buttons) while Retals still has WASD and all of his current controls too? Maybe like that Jack could take over more meaningfully when timing is critical. Like that you could speed flip, and do basic jumps/aerials in a pretty controlled way albeit with the big limitation of not being able to turn left or right unless retals helps out (except where you can manage with DAR). Idk. Just a thought...
I am currently diamond 3. In a single session like within a half hour i would consistently see someone who can flip reset and do a lot of other mechanical plays consistently. But the skill difference in diamond 3 is insane. Makes 0 sense but i think some are just more mechanical than others. Personally i cant flip reset or do much of anything i just play smart and half the time i miss open nets but im still diamond 3 lol
the fun in this is that ur frustrated too - look we want you to win, but the draw for this series is that you experience the frustration that we ourselves do in Diamond etc:)))
not sure this works in D3 but i always counter speedflips with a fairly early jump and flip forward into the ball on kickoffs. basically like a delayed kickoff but just cause im slower to the ball. You guys should try it as a changeup at least
While the 2nd guy i feel like was not common in diamond 3 speed flipping is common and generally everyone has a specialty whether it is playing fast, defense, recoveries, flicking, challenges/50's, etc that got them to that rank
This is the type of content i think everyone loves, plus its just a fun challenge, i think it would genuinely be cool if you tried to go beyond SSL when you do hit it. Also to extend the series and make it a bigger thing.
Yeah, I experience this so much. I'm d2 in 2's, 3's, and 1's. Almost every game in 1's, I'm playing either champs or gcs. It's chaos because it's not actually diamonds.
I have been around this 1v1 rank for years, mostly low champ 1 while being GC since OG season 12. I'm not a 1v1 player however there are a lot of low GC players in Diamond 3 and champ 1. They just don't have the 1v1 tactics.
Jack, I am d1-d2 in 1s and c1 in 2s. Yes, ranked diamond is all champ and low gcs. No shade, but mostly any season 12 gc is probably a c1 c2 max. The ceiling of people growing in the game is huge , and higher ranks are dropping to lower ranks because of it. I've saved a couple of replays to see what i can do better to improve because i constantly get gcs in my rank 1s matches.
You were laughing at yourselves at the end but as a D2 in 1s I actually learnt how cracked drive challenges are by watching these videos. I've watched your 1v1s for a long time but for some reason I only realised their power only when I watched this series
1. Learn to speedflip 2. Learn to aerial 3. Create a common language 4. Learn to comm what you do before you do it to each other using the common language from 3 5. Maybe find stuff you do well and capitalize on it
That middle game is pretty much the scene in 1v1, yes. Really annoying that Champ 1-2 in the other modes are basically Diamond 2-3 in 1v1. They need to align the rating curve in 1v1 and extra modes.
You guys could maybe try to have Retals steer and stuff on a controller? And then have Jack boosting and jumping with the mouse. I tried it with a friend and it actually works kinda well!
I love how they don't beleive their rank is correct after being so used to using mmr. Like guys, your actual rank updates immediately after the match ends.
Honestly this is what sends me in 1s lol. I’m in Diamond and I feel like at least 1 out of every 3 or 4 matches I’m going against someone that clearly shouldn’t be at my rank 😂
You guys should get a mouse with some buttons on the side and map ball-cam, and any other buttons to split it up more. Maybe that's helpful? Love the content!
This is therapeutic, Keep getting shit on please and keep the positive attitudes it may seem like a shit vid cuz it’s losses but it’s actually better cuz I know the tilt too well 😂
JACK AND RETALS, on kbm, you can use the small mouse buttons to look right and left, its not as good as right stic on controller but it helps a little, please like so they can see
Jack spent years teaching people how to play 1s and is now surprised to find out they’ve actually been listening.
Yo for real im gold 1 in 1s and im having to learn speed flip to keep up its crazy
@@colio_gamesyou don’t need speed flip even at c1. It helps but your time is better spent elsewhere at that point
@@Colin7768you dont need it at all, look at palerider, top 100 with basic kickoff and solid fundamentals
@@Colin7768 you sure you dont need speedflip even in 1s ? my friend told me it's super easy to learn and they became super hard to counter in 1s
I still feel like i should learn it
probably the best comment on this whole series
As someone who typically watches strictly for the strategy/gameplay this is a really good idea for Rocket League content. You guys are having fun and it's fun to watch. Also cool that you guys are staggering the videos on your two channels. It's just good all around. It might be cool to see you guys warmup for a few minutes in freeplay to get synced up. Or highlights of a warmup.
I love the honesty about it all as well. Taking on the challenge, no fucking around or training beforehand, just straight into it and uploading the results whether good or bad. I love shit like this.
Yeah dude, the losses make it very entertaining. Love Appjack and Retals but I do like to see pros suffer against diamonds lol. I'll be patiently waiting for the next iteration of #2pros1car. @@T3n50r
This series will revive RL content... or at least i hope it does
"I DONT EVEN TEACH MY VIEWERS TO BE THIS SWEATY" Bro the energy in these videos kill me every time lmfao
“AIR DRIBBLE BUMP IN DIAMOND THRAYYY!”
I lost it 😂
Dude I haven’t laughed at anything rocket league related that hard 😂
this is easily becoming my favorite series
This is straight fun ! I'm also glad it allows 2 pros to realize the state ranks are at in this game at the moment. Yes these players are not smurfs, but there are so many GCs from D2 to C3 that almost no new player will have the courage to go through it. 2s is the same, GC tags all over the place from C1 to C3, former GCs got reset and are now stuck in elo hell, creating a wall that is so tough to climb for newer players.
I completely agree with this, I’ve been gc since season 5 and took a year long break, I used to be gc in 1s and now I can’t get out of c1 and c2 because every game I play is against high gcs
Just remember, once you get past that wall, your rank will skyrocket.
The only real Road to SSL without mechanics series
I swear I'd pay money to see the whole unedited video. Soooo entertaining especially for people in Diamond cause we can relate to this so much
This is hilarious. Finally feels like two pros know what we are going through when having bad mechanics (of course they know this but still it feels oddly sattisfying). Will be fun to see where this series will lead us.
Now they’ll see how we low rank players feel everyday
I’m telling you. Directional air roll in order to speed flip. It fixes your timing problem since you can hold it while boosting and steering without it interfering.
This makes a lot of sense
I play on controller and also only speed flip with DAR. Just front flip and then hold the stick straight down while holding DAR. It's an instant speed flip.
But surely Retals & Appjack don't need speed flips and should focus on other stuff first
Front flip cancel, huh? All the tutorials say it needs to be a diagonal flip cancel. I still have no idea if I can speedflip or not. Sometimes it's fast. Sometimes it's pure trash.@@peterjackoville4272
Timing the flip with the flip cancel is hard to coordinate
me personally I only have DAR binded because I find it easier to use and doesn t interfere with any of my controls as free air roll does. As a kbm player DAR is my go to and speedflips are easy with it
this is so genius, we get to see them relive the stages of a rocket league player.
you guys should make a revenge arc, where you plug the controller against toxic people and dust them
YESS
oh yes definitely! I would want to see that
I was thinking the same thing, the second they start being toxic plug in the controller and teach em a lesson
I love this series guys! I think it would be really helpful if you out the episode number in the thumbnail so it would be easier to track the series, if you can’t watch it immediately each time an episode comes out
The rollercoaster of emotions in these videos with every goal is so jokes! If they score it’s SSL and if they concede the dream is over 😂 honestly I’m here for it
7:57 "...on my main" 🤣
I would be really surprised if you guys hit c2 keyboard alone is just so hard
im excited for them to come back i think the obvious reason they struggled was that they recorded so many episodes on the same day it wears your brain out
This is the most fun ive ever had watching a RL series(okay not counting rlcs), the chemistry between my two favorite youtubers is insane
can confirm D3 in 1s is 50% ppl with GC tags flip resetting on every ball. The other half is 1s mains with camera from outer space.
I love this series for two reasons. (1) You guys now understand our pain as intermediate players. (2) You guys show us that it is still possible to win against these guys with weak mechanics.
Somehow you guys are finding ways to win with even worse mechanics than me. (Like I can defend an air dribble) So thank you guys for doing this series and keep doing it!
What an idea 💡
Bro got me laughing so hard 😂
Don't be sorry Jack, I'm glad you show your fails. Important to realize your failures to grow your strengths. I am enjoying this series.
It must be hard for you pros to lose full stop. Let alone by diamond 1 players.
Please don't lose heart as this series is absolutely amazing
(As long as it's not actually affecting you, cuz retals looks deflated )
At this rank weirdness and agression are the key to success, people can't adapt to their opponents so doing one thing usually works
22:07 "Kickoffs" says Retals with a British accent lol. Happens when you hear the accent around you all the time, and you don't even realize that you're doing it
12:42 Retals "Man you're just so big brain in 1s you know" "yea yea yea"
Thx a lot for this series which is not only very entertaining, but also has given me a better understanding in the game. I started last year with rl as I was in search for games without any cheaters and play 90% 1s, primary as a way to be less annoying for my teammates as I don´t really have any mechs apart from hook shots (sniper..not) and sometimes a half flip. I got to diamond 1 quite fast but then there where so many "monsters" that it was frustrating, especially since I assumed that many of them are just degenerated smurfs which are in a way also cheaters. Understanding that many players just almost never play ones and they are not smurfs (in many cases) but could become just teachers helps my motivation to play. I also think kickoffs are the most important thing to rank higher as more than 50% even in d1 are doing it.
Hard but true. My 1s matches in plat 3 up to diamond 1 are so sweaty. Air dribble bumb becomes common and now I can clean half field air dribble bumbs with only 50 boost
Could you somehow give Jack W+S, along with DAR on the mouse (on a mouse with lots of buttons) while Retals still has WASD and all of his current controls too? Maybe like that Jack could take over more meaningfully when timing is critical. Like that you could speed flip, and do basic jumps/aerials in a pretty controlled way albeit with the big limitation of not being able to turn left or right unless retals helps out (except where you can manage with DAR). Idk. Just a thought...
I am convinced this is just two pros learning how to perfect the turbopolsa playstyle
4:05 They were so impressed with themselves 😂
I love this series!!!
15:08 LMFAO
"AIR DRIBBLE BUMP HE'S DIAMOND 3!!!" got me DYINGGG i love you jack HAHAHA
I am currently diamond 3. In a single session like within a half hour i would consistently see someone who can flip reset and do a lot of other mechanical plays consistently. But the skill difference in diamond 3 is insane. Makes 0 sense but i think some are just more mechanical than others. Personally i cant flip reset or do much of anything i just play smart and half the time i miss open nets but im still diamond 3 lol
Same still After 1,5 years of being hardstuck
the fun in this is that ur frustrated too - look we want you to win, but the draw for this series is that you experience the frustration that we ourselves do in Diamond etc:)))
i would love to know who's controlling what in terms of movement and boosting and jumping etc
Nevermind, Jack is on mouse and Retals is on everything else
dudes, I was not expecting two players controlling 1 car OMG!! LMAO!!!!!
not sure this works in D3 but i always counter speedflips with a fairly early jump and flip forward into the ball on kickoffs. basically like a delayed kickoff but just cause im slower to the ball. You guys should try it as a changeup at least
That's how I do it too, you pick the timing up for it fairly quickly
21:13 "hand on the mouse" I just cant anymore. If you don't keep doing these videos I might have to go to rehab to recover from this..
While the 2nd guy i feel like was not common in diamond 3 speed flipping is common and generally everyone has a specialty whether it is playing fast, defense, recoveries, flicking, challenges/50's, etc that got them to that rank
0:54 bro thats so me LMAO
This is the type of content i think everyone loves, plus its just a fun challenge, i think it would genuinely be cool if you tried to go beyond SSL when you do hit it. Also to extend the series and make it a bigger thing.
Yeah, I experience this so much. I'm d2 in 2's, 3's, and 1's. Almost every game in 1's, I'm playing either champs or gcs. It's chaos because it's not actually diamonds.
🤣🤣🤣 love the how humbling these 1st episodes are
Why do I feel like what they are experiencing and saying together is what I hear in my head everyday.....
past three games in d2 1s all had gc titles and were flip-resetting in my lobbies, gotta love that matchmaking
You guys should play with the nintendo switch joycons
I think it would make it easier for you to coordinate your moves
17:16 Jack forgetting they switched and he's the one using keyboard now
In your 1v1 vids you always get craaaaaz front or diagonal flip flicks. Can you make a Tutorial on these.
i love this thank you for a good laugh jack 15:08
Easily the best RL series ive watched, you guys are hilarious
I have been around this 1v1 rank for years, mostly low champ 1 while being GC since OG season 12. I'm not a 1v1 player however there are a lot of low GC players in Diamond 3 and champ 1. They just don't have the 1v1 tactics.
every goal: YES WE'RE THE BEST TOP 10 THIS SEASON
every goal for opponent: awwww nooo we're going to lose we're never getting out of diamond
in these ranks it’s really common for people to be a full rank class higher in 2s than 1s (for example a gc1 in 2s is often c1 in ones)
Jack, I am d1-d2 in 1s and c1 in 2s. Yes, ranked diamond is all champ and low gcs. No shade, but mostly any season 12 gc is probably a c1 c2 max. The ceiling of people growing in the game is huge , and higher ranks are dropping to lower ranks because of it. I've saved a couple of replays to see what i can do better to improve because i constantly get gcs in my rank 1s matches.
ApparentlyJack+Flakes would probably go pro
You were laughing at yourselves at the end but as a D2 in 1s I actually learnt how cracked drive challenges are by watching these videos. I've watched your 1v1s for a long time but for some reason I only realised their power only when I watched this series
Yeah I flip way too often when challenging. Really need to drive challenge, fake and single jump more.
This is so educational and the most entertaining playlist so far
Ahah, I laugh soo much when they start saying they will get top 10 with so much confidence
1. Learn to speedflip
2. Learn to aerial
3. Create a common language
4. Learn to comm what you do before you do it to each other using the common language from 3
5. Maybe find stuff you do well and capitalize on it
This is the episode all diamond players have been waiting for
Grand champs in my diamond lobbies is the story of my life 😂
That middle game is pretty much the scene in 1v1, yes. Really annoying that Champ 1-2 in the other modes are basically Diamond 2-3 in 1v1. They need to align the rating curve in 1v1 and extra modes.
You guys could maybe try to have Retals steer and stuff on a controller? And then have Jack boosting and jumping with the mouse. I tried it with a friend and it actually works kinda well!
Who would've guessed, you guys found a way to play on a diamond account and NOT smurf.
Loving the content
Best RL series, pure entertainment and welcome to d3 ones.
This is so so fun to watch please keep grinding this
I love how they don't beleive their rank is correct after being so used to using mmr. Like guys, your actual rank updates immediately after the match ends.
dude jack getting to champ in 1s is a monumental feat because so many trasg gcs are diamond 2 and 3
Honestly this is what sends me in 1s lol. I’m in Diamond and I feel like at least 1 out of every 3 or 4 matches I’m going against someone that clearly shouldn’t be at my rank 😂
15:08 AIR DRIB BUMPIN DIAMOND THRAY
15:11 never seen Jack this mad before 😭😭 And for some reason it’s our fault 😂
best rl series please never stop 🔥
15:26 loll oooooooo
the boys expectations were so high during placements... they realised the playerbase has increased in skill a lot over the years
Original content. This is the content i wait for and its not often i wait for content. . Its so nice to see something like this
You guys should get a mouse with some buttons on the side and map ball-cam, and any other buttons to split it up more. Maybe that's helpful? Love the content!
This is therapeutic, Keep getting shit on please and keep the positive attitudes it may seem like a shit vid cuz it’s losses but it’s actually better cuz I know the tilt too well 😂
I think you guys need a rhythm for the flips. Delayed flips with a fairly consistent amount of delay. Then retals knows when to hold a direction
Literally like a married couple 😂
I knew the day when I was higher rank than you guys would come! Jack and Retals making false promises like good politicians xD
missing a shot in a rookie aerial training pack and then hopping into ranked is crazyyyy bro
Commenting on every video in this series to say it's my favorite series 😁
So much fun to watch! Keep this going! I’d watch y’all go all the way to SSL like this!
These two are gunna end up hating each other 😂
Man, this has to be one of the best series in the world!
Watch two pros gain empathy for their entire viewerbase - smurfs suck, sucky players are toxic, and mechanics are hard.
the reporting LOL
Amazing content thanks so much
It’s gonna be funny after you guys climb all the way to SSL if y’all play each other your gonna feel like you can read each other perfectly
Jack I freakin love this series every ep I have laughed so hard, please continue it. We all wonna see how far yall get😂
I like how these guys are recognizing how hard the lower ranks have become. I literally have to wait to defend for flip reset aerials now in D2
9:23 It basically is the average D3 1's player though. Even in D2, about half of my games are against GC opponents.
Love the series!!
JACK AND RETALS, on kbm, you can use the small mouse buttons to look right and left, its not as good as right stic on controller but it helps a little, please like so they can see
Unreal how much this looks like my "1 player, 1 controller" gameplay😅
love this series
We need a showmatch with ApparentlyRetal vs Leth + Lief
This is the best series ever
Please do more i love this series!!!!