351 - Knapping Floor Tile JUN 2015 ROCK CHALLENGE 1/3
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Sorry the video cut off at the end. The weight was 110 grains. And sorry about the wind noise. I know it's annoying. It bugs me too. :-/
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Hello, just popped in to let you know that you have inspired me to not give up with knapping. I have just knapped my first glass points after years of touch and go. I always come back to your videos.
Thanks! Glad to hear it!
Don't give up!! Keep at it. Gotta have fun with it. The learning process is fun I think. I'm enjoying it. Just having fun with it.
It looks so real. As if it was found out in the field. The native Americans would be proud of your work as a tradesman. Very well done.
Thank you!
Having hunted for arrowheads as a kid in Texas, this just blows me away.
Otzi himself would be impressed with your repurposing of materials. Very outstanding sir
Thank you.
Laid up from 2 days of fishing, I've been binge watching your channel.
This is flippin awesome! If I didn't have 101 compulsive hobbies I would give it a try. For now, I'll just keep watching your mad skills.
Truly fascinating!😁
When we remodeled the bathroom we were left with over 15 boxes of 4×4 tiles. I can't wait to try this
Sweet!
You made a crap piece, of crap tile, look like a stone point I would cherish for life ,if I found it in a creek. I live in Florida a materials are hard to come bye. I subscribed and I'm your student now. Thank you
Thank you Huntsman. Sorry I missed this comment.
"I`m gonna do the small-flake/big-flake technique..." It seems so damn easy when you talk about it. You have great skills and great videos man.
Cool. Thanks!
Well, time to go raid the construction yard dumpster.
How'd that work out?
Have you made points from tile yet?
@@punkinhaidmartin made a few blades but they don't last very long. Couldn't really make a point they kept shattering when I tried to make narrow peices
I napped a bunch of it he got evicted from my apartment for tearing up the bathroom. Now I'm homeless but I have a lot of nice arrowheads thanks man
Thanks for the great idea. I grew up in California hunting obsidian points. Learned hot to make them. Finding material is tough in Maryland.
Nothing in Maryland, true.
Very well done and great information. Never thought of using porcelian tile befor but will for sure now. Thanks as always for great videos and information.
Just a suggestion, My opinion. The reason your beginning flakes were not going all the way across is because your left finger was putting pressure on where the flake wanted to terminate. It will stop where it meets resistance. Why most knappers use a pad with a grove.. so they flake can properly terminate the flakes. Try straddling where you are sending the flake between your pointer finger and you middle finger. JMO
WOW! I know theres a lot of skill and technique involved but you make it look so easy! Floor tile?? Good video! :)
boggycreekbeast Thanks! It's not that difficult if you can knap. That's the catch. :-)
In ten thousand years someone is going to dig up this guys workshop and comment on how skilled those primitive stone-age people were.
Well... Down to the liquor store for another case of bourbon for glass bottoms and come back crack a top and start the bathroom remodel and new tile job. Stock up on practice material..
Totally kidding!!
Really cool video. Thanks for sharing. Trip to Lowe's this afternoon. Lol. Not kidding.
Awesome.👍
I'm glad I seen this video. I have some floor Is tile. Going to hunt it up right now. Looking good brother Gene Gorringe Mi ✌️ 🇺🇲 🇬🇧
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Great camera work and detail views. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Amazing! I found your channel by chance and I was amazed with the work. It's amazing how manufactures spearheads and arrowheads in the best style Middle Paleolithic and Upper Paleolithic. Me allows me to recommend your channel to my co-workers? Note: I am a professor of history and your videos are amazing as teaching material.
Greetings from Brazil.
Thank you. Yes, go ahead and recommend my channel if you wish. Glad you like it.
That hard coating is called a glaze which is made from silica , a flux, and some clay which is fired along with the tile.
Good to know
Tile is the only way I'm gonna be able to learn this I have no access to anything other material , I'm stoked lol
Cool. :-)
Wow nice work, that was a thick piece, I have everything I need but 2 brain surgeries not quite sure how to use the tools yet.
Try and try again, as they say.😁
Lost count of the amount of times I've watched this one.. 😂
Wow I got to try this! Looks cool. Thanks Sir.
This greatly improved my knapping .. useing good tools n good stone is one best advice I've gotten from you . I'm in quartsite and its whole different type tooling on that stuff. . But trying to unlock tool s they used on quartile. I've got points I've found that were 1/4 in. Thick and that is way way beyond type tools we use on tile or chert . Sum finish work same but wow tryi g to thin quart is
Very very hard .
@@dalewilliams3834 I agree. Quartzite does not like to be thin. You really have to attack it with lots of force.
Watching you makes me want to run out to my she shed and start working but it's 1.15a.m. so....m
If you have the freedom to do it, why not? 😁
I read recently that step fractures can be avoided by moving your finger away from where the flake is coming off the backside of the piece. The pressure of holding the flake on can stop the flake from travelling across the face, what do you think of that?
True in most cases. Sometimes it doesn't matter. Sometimes it actually helps make the flake travel further if there's a little support pressure.
13:55-14:01 watch where you left hand fingers are.. right where the flake terminated and the step fracture started Again at 14:20 :)
Jack Mehoff Yeah, that's a good catch. I probably had my fingertip pressed against the surface. But all my holding pressure is VERY light at this stage... so it could have been a strike that was angled too deep... or both.
Jeez man your so damn impressive... your skills are so honed ...
Thanks.
Thanks for introducing me to this new source of rock. Seems good for thinning practice too. I am curious about how sharp and hard the material is. Would you say it can cut soft wood and hold a decent edge?
Not really. It can hold a decent edge for cutting meat but not wood.
How are you holding that bopper and hitting it? I've seen this in many videos and I just don't get it.
Nillaferilla See My Flintknapping Method and Tools:
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Beginner Series Videos:
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JackCrafty. Thats. Kickass
He is holding the chipper in his knee then striking it with a mallet
In addressing those small step fractures about 3/4 of the way through the video, because this is tile, can you use your abrader to smooth over some of those step fractures?
Yes. But it will look a little funny.
@@KnapperJackCrafty But, if thats what you have, and you need it to hunt, then its better to maybe look a little funny, if it doesn’t interfere with arrow flight. Otherwise, just try to knapp off longer flakes or leave it as is. Options, I guess.
Awesome. I've been looking for alternative materials.
John Ratko If you haven't tried this, it will definitely be a challenge but it works. And tile is everywhere!
Allergic Hobbit It looks more difficult than glass, which I have problems with. One of these days it should all gel.
For those of you (like me) who live in an area where obsidian, flint, chert, etc is hard to come by, watch a few videos about how to make arrowheads from broken glass bottle bottoms. I work with glass almost exclusively and it makes absolutely lethal arrowheads. I've hunted with them a few times and they work just as good as any arrowhead you can buy.
Jack sería posible cuando usted tenga algo de tiempo libre añadirle subtitulos al video? No quiero perderme nada de tan valiosa información. Saludos.
Does anyone else notice the material light up when it gets hit? Very cool!
I've been looking for this white long bar for 10 days, but you still haven't sent me the link. Where did you buy this from, my American friend? can you give the link? (The one with the same feature.) PLease
www.ebay.com/itm/Made-in-USA-4-Long-1-1-2-Diam-Polyethylene-UHMW-Plastic-Rod-White-/283301128056?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
@@KnapperJackCrafty Thankkkkkk youuu Lord of the ston Jack.
@@Eren-wk2uw you're very welcome
Great stuff! Thank you for sharing. Informative and kinda cool!
john harris Thanks!
Hi. I know this is an old video, but I really need to ask and hope you'll reply: is there any difference if I use a flaker with an iron tip instead of copper?
I ask just because I can't find copper nails this year.... :(
Yeah, go ahead and use iron or steel. Just make sure its soft steel, like a nail, because hard steel will be too difficult to use. "Mild Steel" is the term used to indicate soft steel. It's not much different from copper.
@@KnapperJackCrafty so I could use a cement rod.
Thank you. really. Your video are amazing!
(and they make my isolation more bearable :D ).
@@TitusGalliusMontanus sure. Try the cement rod (rebar). It should work as long as it's not too heavy. If it's too heavy, you will have to hit it really hard with the mallet to get a flake removed.
@@KnapperJackCrafty oh, no problem with that. I can easily smithing it and make it thinner.
Wow... for sure using a forging technique to obtain a neolithic arrowhead is paradoxical XD
That worked out well.
Excellent work !!!! You are a Master !!!
Jorge.
ARGENTINA
Thank you. :-)
I like the look of the edge on this; I think I'll give it a go for practicing percussion... I tried marble and was pretty disappointed in the sharpness of the edge although it flaked alright.
You must have high quality marble because the marble I tried knapped like a brick.😁
@@KnapperJackCrafty came from the dumpster of this custom counter place I could be wrong on material tho
What type of setup are you using that you are just hitting it with . Your not swinging at it nice precise hit's , I like that . Can you show how your tool is working that your just hitting it . Thank you for the video.
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Thanks for responding, but my question was, since flint rock is uncommon in my area, can floor tile be sharp enough to be used in place of flint rock to spark off steel. I think, from watching another video, that it may be too soft. Ever tried it?
lobo en hs Nope, never tried it for sparking steel. I think it would be too soft, like you said. But you should try it anyway. :-)
Will beveling the edges help with removing flakes on obsidian. My bugaboo is still thinning. I can get one side perfect, but the other sides always has a hump that I just can't remove with pressure flaking or indirect pressure.
Yes, beveling can give you a very good platform. Try it. The secret to getting rid of lumps is to be very agressive. It's very risky and you'll break a lot of points but eventually you'll learn the limits of the stone and stay under that limit.
@@KnapperJackCrafty thanks. I was volunteered today to supply a museum with arrowheads to be given away to the children that visit the museum. I am thinking of using some porcelain floor tile and window glass along with obsidian. I was told they don't have to be perfect as the museum was a fire house that was built in 1861. I guess someone thinks my points are good enough for this type of arena as I've only been doings this for 9 months now. I'll let you know what happens and if they are happy with them.
@@richardcummings7079 sounds like fun. Museums are one of my favorite places and this one sounds like a good one.
@@KnapperJackCrafty I never knew the museum even existed until yesterday..
I will have to take the wife up there after all the fires subside.. there are 2 burning in the area of the museum.
If you go to the Home dumpo store sometimes they will give you a single tile for a sample if you ask them.
Yup
Very nice! Well done!
Thank you
🤷♀️Wow Jack, it's gone. What happened to your old Belair?
💁♂️I knapped it into some arrowheads.
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Hello again! Is that plastic rod 30mm diameter or more (or less..)? I can't get an accurate conversion from inches to mm to copy your tools on your tools videos. Would you also be so kind to tell me the diameter of the copper rod in mm? I'm trying to get a set going here to learn. I get floor tiles easily but no flint so tiles is the way for me at the moment and I would like to get exactly what you are using in this video in terms of tool specs. Really enjoy your videos and I have learnt a lot just from watching. Thank you!
As a tougher bit in your tool, you could try a brass insert. It is a little tougher than copper but still malleable enough that it would still give you some grab like copper does.
I've tried brass and it slips too much. Mild steel actually works better than brass. The steel has more malleability.
Nice to hear you've tried it. I am just starting out and I have a tone of brass in my shop but no copper. Was going to try it, but thought that as a beginner I should stick with what is known to work. :)
Thanks for the video. I tried some toilet tank and it was a lot like this.
Al Diehl Yeah, toilet porcelain is a little more crumbly, though. Tile holds an edge better and is stronger.
I’m really struggling to make indirect percussion work, I’ve almost given up trying a few times but then, I watch a couple more videos of yours and feel re-inspired, so thanks for that, hopefully if I keep on trying I’ll eventually get the hang of it 🫰🏻
I tried every angle thinking it was my technique. I could barely flake it and when I did the flakes would not run. Plus it won't abraid so that's not helping. Waiting on some colored glass to try. Thanks for your videos. They are excellent
Cool. I think you'll find glass much more cooperative.
Never thots about floor tile! Very good!!
how are you holding your pressure flaker still while you hit it with whatever precussion tool you are using, and what do you use for a precussion tool? i would imagine an inch thich hardwood stick or dowel would work well? and would this technique work with antler tools?
Hi Sam. Go back into my earlier videos, that are numbered, and watch #244 and #245.
Excellent video I watched every bit of it. I would like to know if that material is strong enough for you to put a tang on it? I have seen examples of ancient flint arrow heads with tangs. They were much smaller though.
Thanks. Yeah, it's plenty strong enough for a tang.
@@KnapperJackCrafty great I look forward to seeing more of your videos
Best Wishes
How are you holdimg ypur tool while hitting it at same time??
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hello sorry, I do not understand how and where to support the bopper . then strike with a stick ?
Go back into my older vids an look at number 244 or 245. :-)
Love your videos. probably have watched all of them.
Wow. That's awesome John. Sometimes I find it difficult to find the time to review and watch them myself. I'm guilty of uploading some straight off the camera. :-)
+JackCrafty yeah. I'm trying to get into it. just don't have the tools to dive in it with lol. how long have you been doing it?
+john schrock I started I. 2007 but only been making recognizable points since 2009.
+JackCrafty nice. I gotta find a place to pick up some used tools.
Great idea
Thanks
What hold the Knapper wile you push down on it?
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How are you holding that bopper and hitting it? I've seen this in many Is it possible to make a chipper with nails at the ends?
Im holding the bopper behind my knee. Do a sesrch for "jack crafty front view". And yes, you can use nails at the ends.
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hello sir jack thank you very much for the answer and explanations, could i take a little more of your time and ask you the reason for using copper at the tips? today I made my first contact with glass knapping using a screwdriver and I found it very interesting I imagined that it used a lot of force to get good flakes but in fact it seemed 80% technical to me and the rest was the force, you could confirm this question? I want to be able to make my own arrowheads right away and you have helped me a lot in this. I also want to ask for forgiveness if I miss writing because I am Brazilian and I do not understand English very well and I use the translator for our conversations. respect and admiration Daniel toledo - Goiás
@@danieltoledo9295 I use copper because it seems to work best but it is possible to use steel or aluminum also.
nice video man! i am getting into knapping .. i do alot of archery and love traditional archery .. can you tell me where to get these tools .. i have been bopping the obsidian. . and not working too well .. i like the way these tools work .. any info would be of help .. thank you!
+Joey Lujan Thanks. Look back into my older videos for a description of my tools. I thunk it's video 245 or 244. I would cut and paste the link but I'm on a tablet right now...
JackCrafty thank you! I will look back at it ... thank you .. i made 3 points today with beer bottle bottoms. . Came out ok .. but pressure flaking in a pain .. i like the way you do it!
can you make a tutorial Flint knapping for beginners, i am new and want to learn. i dont know what kind of stones to use or were to get them , i have been taking my Neighbors rocks but they are small and hard for me to work with
Hi Karina, go to my home page and look at my playlists. There's a playlist for beginners. Also, if you look around at my other vids, there's a lot of "Rock Challenge" or "RC" videos that show me knapping many types of stones.
Alright thanks I find your videos very interesting and helpful
Just a thought.. can you use floor tile as flint rock, since its edges are or can be sharp?
lobo en hs Yes. Floor tile will work for knives, arrowheads, and other tools but the edges will become dull quickly.
I worked at a tile and had alot of spare time in my twelve hour shift and i have to say tile is very hard and i could barely work it at all.
Yes, tile is very difficult to work. A lot of practice is required. It took me two years of knapping stone before I could make a good looking arrowhead. It took me a month of knapping tile before I could make these videos.
what are you using to hit the ishi stick with
UHMW Plastic Rod, 1 1/4" diameter
Unreal!
Thanks!
your like the bob ross of arrowhead crafting strangely therapeutic
Haha....If it's theraputic, that is strange. But I'm kidding. It's true. Knapping keeps me sane.
+JackCrafty haha cheers keep uploading!
I have a diamond saw that cuts that tile like butter.
Hmmm.....
I found like 20 tiles going to use them for practice
Cool.
maybe bronze or aluminum might work with this stuff being harder than copper but still able to "catch" the ceramic
I'm now working with aluminum but haven't tried it on floor tile yet.
Did you make your knapping tools or is there somewhere you can buy them?
I made my own but you can buy similar tools online.
JackCrafty .. can you point me in a direction we’re they might be bought ? Store? Link? Thanks !
Kentuckyflintworks.com
i started doing this at my work place on my lunch, but i drive a truck so i am always somewhere diffrent most of the time..when i am done with it, i leave it for someone else to find..alot of the times..its always gone when i come back.
Do you leave the arrowheads on the ground?
no, i leave them setting on top of the dumpsters i pick up, or in the open where they are seen easily..it should be obvious it was recently made becasue i leave the hammer stone, or smaller tools with it.
Just curious, how much would it cost to buy points like these, or from Flint etc. We in the UK are not permitted to use broad heads. @JackCrafty fantastic videos, really interesting to watch you work... Regards from over the pond.
Thank you Darren.
Please send me an email to jackcrafty@yahoo.com and we can work out the details on the stone broadleaf. The main cost will be the shipping.
broadheads
Be careful, that's going to end up at my house 😁
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The lids to toilet tanks work great
Jack Mehoff Yeah, I've knapped 'em. I wouldn't say the work great but they certainly work. :-)
Allergic Hobbit Hmm maybe my tioilet lid was better lol high grade stuff haha
Greetings Jack; Great Tutorial. Thank You.... I am on the other hand, seem to be a poor Student. So far, with the Porcelain Floor Tile, trying, first indirect percussion, then with the Jig, I have yet, to make the first corner Chip. With the indirect, I have struck up, to all the strength, I have.
Please advise....Thank You....
Do you know anyone who will also try to chip the tile? Maybe a sister or brother? If they try and are successful, maybe they can show you. It's hard for me to advise you if I can't see exactly what you are doing. :-)
Do you know anyone who will also try to chip the tile? Maybe a sister or brother? If they try and are successful, maybe they can show you. It's hard for me to advise you if I can't see exactly what you are doing. :-)
+JackCrafty , I know, of no one here in Central Arkansas, who is a Knapper. I am still not back, on the approved Driver's List. Or I would be off, to a few , of the KNAPP-INS.
I have been, watching '351', the first strike, then try, to Mimic your moves. It may sound, errrr..Read a bit daft, but I am a very stubborn Old Lady.
I am having thoughts of a supped-up Jig, just to hold the Tile Preform and take a Punch and Hammer, to the first corner.
Thanks, that might work, Punch and Hammer! ! !
Yours,
Olivea in Arkansas
+N Olivea Peterson By all means, use the punch and hammer. Use the hammer by itself if you have to. Once you get the first flake, you will begin to understand the forces involved. I hope to hear of y I ur success soon. :-)
Where are you sticking the ishi stick at in relation to tip? I can't get it to flake
Watch some of my recent videos. Look for front views of me in the thumbnails... it will show the angles better.
This guy needs to setup his platforms.
Awesum
Wow, this dude could make an arrow point out of a chicken nugget.
Haha... thanks.
This rings so loud when knapping
Hmmm
Very interesting, I learned a lot watching your technique. I am a bit puzzled by one aspect though. When holding the blank with your left hand, you place the pressure flaker on the edge with the right hand, and than a mysterious third hand strikes the pressure flaker with something to remove the flake. Do you have another video which shows what is actually going on there? I look forward to watching more of your videos. Liked and subbed.
see my video number 245 or 244.
my older videos have numbers in front of the titles. :-)
JackCrafty I found that comment in another post so I went there and watched it. Thank you.
JackCrafty That is a great idea to number those videos. It makes it easier for us to keep track of what we have seen or to reference those videos. You do beautiful work my friend.
+James Carmean Thank you James.
I tried use no floor tile. I couldn't get it to chip right. I also brushed my leg all the hell.
With the camera so close I can't actually see what you're doing. It looks like you have 3 hands. Any chance of a wider shot? It's very frustrating.
Go back into my earlier videos and watch number 245. you can also see my technique in more recent videos. Look at the thumbnails... some videos will have a zoomed out front view.
Watch out for asbestos tiles!?
Obviously.
molto interessante!
I live by a river and red and green chert is abundant here. If anyone wants some let me know.
Video please.😁
very lucky
how do you get the indirect tool to work I cann't get flacks to release?
Hit harder. Hit the flaker so hard that either the flaker breaks or the tile breaks. If the flaker breaks, you're doing it wrong. :-)
So this leads me to wonder if they ever made arrow heads or spear points out of clay and fired them.
No. Primitive clay is much weaker than today's ceramics.
Can you do this with marble tile?
Nope.
a little ohio slate shape it how you want and fire it in to shale and it is as hard a naped tile with 1/4 the work
Goodnight
seja grato a JESUS por tao grande sabedoria, DEUS o abencoe.
How are you holding the big tool that you did most of the work with?
I'm holding it behind my knee. Check out my video number 244. It's one of my older videos that I numbered.
I beat the crap out if the tile, fingers, copper dang!It is some hard s&@t. I can't even abraid it with stone. It must be extremely hardened. I think I will try a different stone , glass or something
Yeah, it sounds like you have some non-knappable stuff there. :-)
I am just getting through and catching up... a lot going on with Indian Trace. LOL! Tell me, the Indian must have had to have all their billets of antler?
Billet-like artifacts are made from bone, tusk, and antler. It was also possible to make billets from horn (bighorn sheep, for example) and wood, but these do not survive well and I don't think any wood or horn examples exist. Long, slender hammerstones, with the general billet shape, also seem to have been used.
I tried knapping glass out of a beer bottle and a shard of glass shot off and went In my thumb and had to go to the hospital to get it dug out .
patrick hartwell Yep, glass is dangerous. Knap at your own risk, as they say. I usually put tape on my fingers when I work with glass.
have you ever knapped with television tube glass?
Yes, and it works well.